Asking because I never had reboot before and after restoring with Nandroid I get reboots and some errors in navigation
nandroid doesn't change kernel, recovery, baseband or radio.
it does restore everything else.
zaduma said:
nandroid doesn't change kernel, recovery, baseband or radio.
it does restore everything else.
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I didn't change any of that....just applied lag fix and then did nandroid restore. Never had a reboot issue before......I have to say that restore point was NEW flash odin install with root, before I had original unflashed phone.
kolyan said:
I didn't change any of that....just applied lag fix and then did nandroid restore. Never had a reboot issue before......I have to say that restore point was NEW flash odin install with root, before I had original unflashed phone.
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Can you clarify what you did there? Not sure I understand.
I'm trying to determine whether or not a lag fix (ext2 loopback file) will survive a nandroid backup/restore onto a new stock phone. I'm thinking that the safest thing would be to backup with Titanium, undo the lag fix, make a nandroid backup and restore onto the new phone. THEN, apply the lag fix to the new phone.
Perhaps I should leave this nandroid backup out of it altogether with these lag fixes. It seems we are asking for trouble. At least with Titanium, most everything will be backed up anyway. And then, they can be restored onto a bare, lag fixed phone.
EDIT: It appears there are several who are having problems restoring a Tit backup after a lag fix, which really makes no sense as to why that would happen.
Installed fresh rom with odin. Did one click root. Installed all my apps from market and removed bloatware. Backedup. Then done lag fix and then undone it, but just in case also done nadroid restore.
Personally and I do mean personally before I do anything out of the ordinary like Lag fixes or hacking away at any of my files I create a Backup via Clockwork. Of course they live on my SD card, but I also back them up onto a PC at home. With my G1 it would trash the SD card all the time for some odd reason so it was smart to rebuild the partion via RA_Recovery and then just copy over the Nandroid backups and flash away.
Always inportant to tag each backup with a quick discription to make sure you know what is what because dates do get confusing.
2010-08-09-Time-BFR-Lag = 2010-08-09-Time-Before Lag Fix
So if I screw things up I can easily restore to that point because one reason or another I'm not going to be happy. Heck if I decide I'm not to sure about a fix I create another backup 2010-08-09-Time-AFR-Lag = 2010-08-09-Time-After Lag Fix
I now can test before and after and restore back and forth constantly until I decide what I want or where I want to stay.
Heck the first thing I did after I installed ClockWork was a backup, which would put me right back at Stock minus some of the bloat apps.
Here's a quick rundown. Sunday I rooted, installed cwmrecovery, and installed jt's 1200 voodoo kernal. Through the process, I have downloaded ROM manager, Root explorer, SetCPU, and Titanium backup.
I've done all the basics such as renaming bloatware, installing enhanced google search, ran a full titanium backup, and used SetCPU to OC to 1.2. I'm happy to say everything is running at 100%. Haven't had a single problem since modding everything.
Since doing this, I've read that I should have ran a nandroid backup before flashing voodoo in case anything goes wrong...unfortunately the instructions I followed did not include this. Because everything's working so well for me, I really don't want to screw anything up. I'm pretty sure I know how to do this I just want to list my steps and make sure they're right before attempting.
1. disable lag fix
2. reboot
3. boot into recovery mode from ROM manager
4. create a backup? (not sure what the CWMrecovery command is)
5. reboot
6. undo disable lag fix (re-enable lag fix)
7. reboot and pray everything continues to run smoothly
Does this sound about right?
that sounds right
Let me know how this works for you and exactly how you did it. This is what I was trying to do and when I rebooted after doing the disable/lagfix, everything was gone and i had no Google sign in, no market, and no keyboard. Still trying to figure out where i went wrong......
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Your steps look fine.. Make sure #2 is a full reboot.. Don't just disable and then directly reboot into CWM, that won't work.
For some people it works easy as pie, for others, it blows stuff up. Not sure what to tell you.. You're taking your chances either way.. Either something will crash down the line and you'll have no backup, or you disable voodoo and take the risk of that blowing you up, and obviously you have no backup.
I think I would just go ahead and try the uninstall, you should always have at least a basic backup to work from. You might get lucky and just have it work the way it should.
Before you do anything though, I highly recommend installing and running Titanium Root, that will back up your applications, so even if things blow up on you, you can at least do a quick one-touch restore of the apps once your back to stock.
Glad to see I'm not the only one in this boat. I have rooted, cwm, and have OC kernal with 0.2 voodoo. I never backed anything up though...
I may try and follow in your path.
Ok, I felt confident and jumped head first into this because I really wanted to back my phone up with nandroid, so I went for it. After I disabled lagifx, my phone had an emotional breakdown. I attempted to backup with nandroid and I believe it failed, it said "Null" and did nothing. I pulled the battery after about 15 minutes and restarted my phone. Deleted the disable_lagfix file I had created and rebooted my phone. It did the voice and all that fun stuff and froze with the words "Samsung" on the screen. I think I may have made a super boo boo some where along the way.
If anyone knows what I should do now, please help. I'm in over my head for the most part.
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Ok, I felt confident and jumped head first into this because I really wanted to back my phone up with nandroid, so I went for it. After I disabled lagifx, my phone had an emotional breakdown. I attempted to backup with nandroid and I believe it failed, it said "Null" and did nothing. I pulled the battery after about 15 minutes and restarted my phone. Deleted the disable_lagfix file I had created and rebooted my phone. It did the voice and all that fun stuff and froze with the words "Samsung" on the screen. I think I may have made a super boo boo some where along the way.
If anyone knows what I should do now, please help. I'm in over my head for the most part.
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Can you get into CWM?
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Yep, sounds like a pretty standard voodoo uninstall explosion. Happened to me as well.
See the thread "How to completely remove Voodoo". I'd recommend reading it all the way first, then trying it. There's some useful stuff later on.
If you can't get into CWM recovery at all, use odin and re-flash the CWM.tar file in the general CWM recovery thread here. Make sure when using odin you always, always use the "pda" box. Never use the "phone" box or else it's brick city.
Did you boot into recovery as soon as you disabled_lagfix or create the file, reboot, and let the phone completley boot up and then reboot into recovery?
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OK, after my phone got stuck on the Samsung start up screen I pulled the battery and restarted. This time it actually restarted wit my the voice and I had my boot animation from the 1200 oc kernal/voodoo lagfix I had installed. It worked fine but I had to go through the set up for my phone and resign into my Google account. All my apps were gone and I've lost root. I tried to re-root but when I open adb I get the # sign instead of $... I tried to use the one click root but it didn't recognized my phone. Adb does recognize my phone though.
I can get into cwm... I just can't re-root my phone. It appears everything is fine beyond that.
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EDIT: After a while of trying I finally figured out that I was able to use Adb, I just don't know what I'm doing most of the time. ADB and now I have my root back. The one click root did not work, but manually everything went ok. I still have voodoo and OC kernal, but eh, better than nothing at this point. I wanted to be able to created a nandroid back up... I still have yet to accomplish this, LOL, I may give it another try further down the road.
Thanks to everyone who tried to help me!
Wow...not sure if I want to try this or not now.
Has anyone done this SUCCESSFULLY?
So let's say I decide not to create a nandroid and leave my phone the way it is now...what's the worst that could happen? I have all my apps backed up through titanium backup.
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Wow...not sure if I want to try this or not now.
Has anyone done this SUCCESSFULLY?
So let's say I decide not to create a nandroid and leave my phone the way it is now...what's the worst that could happen? I have all my apps backed up through titanium backup.
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It may work for you. Voodoo is weird from what I've read, for some it's fine and others not so much. I had a flurry of problems after disabling the lagfix and I almost felt like it wasn't worth it. Also, after finally getting my root back my accelerometer stopped working and I had to completely remove Voodoo and then re-flash back to voodoo to get it to work agian. I forgot to backup with nandroid again.... :? If you are going to try it, I would say completely remove voodoo via the uninstaller and then backup, because its hell if voodoo decides to go bipolar on your phone. You may lose all your data and root like I did. Who knows when it comes to voodoo?
I'm leaving mine as is and may backup with nandroid later. If you go for it, good luck.
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what's the worst that could happen? I have all my apps backed up through titanium backup.
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Between Titanium Backup and My Backup Pro (seems to handle things like the call log and sms/mms messages a little better, at least for me), I haven't used a Nandroid in a couple of weeks.
It's actually a pretty nice, streamlined process:
-Run the backups
-Do whatever hacky thing I'm doing
-Wipe data
-Sign in to Google and download Titanium from the market
-Restore apps with Titanium, then data with MB Pro.
-Fix any funny widgets
-Enjoy!
Smitty9803 said:
Wow...not sure if I want to try this or not now.
Has anyone done this SUCCESSFULLY?
So let's say I decide not to create a nandroid and leave my phone the way it is now...what's the worst that could happen? I have all my apps backed up through titanium backup.
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I just created my nandroid backup! I chose to uninstall Voodoo then re-root my phone instead of just disabling voodoo. I haven't put voodoo back on yet, but I probably will. Not with the OC kernal because none of them are stable enough IMO. When I used the OC lagfix my phone would always freeze up when I did anything extensive. Google Earth for example, would cause it freeze up. Oh well, hopefully someone will come up with a good OC, and I'll be happy to donate to them for their hard work.
Seriously, I think you should just uninstall and create a backup. Then reinstall voodoo for that sweet Quadrant score. LOL
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I just created my nandroid backup! I chose to uninstall Voodoo then re-root my phone instead of just disabling voodoo. I haven't put voodoo back on yet, but I probably will. Not with the OC kernal because none of them are stable enough IMO. When I used the OC lagfix my phone would always freeze up when I did anything extensive. Google Earth for example, would cause it freeze up. Oh well, hopefully someone will come up with a good OC, and I'll be happy to donate to them for their hard work.
Seriously, I think you should just uninstall and create a backup. Then reinstall voodoo for that sweet Quadrant score. LOL
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Respectfully, the kernels are fine. Different processors handle the same kernels differently. Most kernel threads have several different versions partly because of this. For instance, My GFs phone will run Dirks UC/OC well, without issue, but mine occasionally borked when I tried it, so I use JT's. You will see this effect more pronounced on boards for devices with many different kernels available.
Always a good idea to try each version of each kernel for a bit to see how you do.
Wow, I forgot about removing voodoo before doing nandroid backup / restore. I've done 2 backups and 1 restore without issue. Did I just get lucky? Man there's a lot of stuff to keep track of here!
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Between Titanium Backup and My Backup Pro (seems to handle things like the call log and sms/mms messages a little better, at least for me), I haven't used a Nandroid in a couple of weeks.
It's actually a pretty nice, streamlined process:
-Run the backups
-Do whatever hacky thing I'm doing
-Wipe data
-Sign in to Google and download Titanium from the market
-Restore apps with Titanium, then data with MB Pro.
-Fix any funny widgets
-Enjoy!
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I like the sound of this! But I have a question...I looked into the MBPro and supposedly it backs up all of your apps along with your data/personal settings. If that's the case, why use titanium backup?
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I installed Cognition 2.2 beta 9(with voodoo) and got my phone all set up and did a nandroid backup without disabling voodoo. I never thought to disable it and the backup worked fine. Now today I restored the backup and forgot about disabling voodoo and it worked but I didn't have any of my apps or the market, and I realized it was probably because I never disabled voodoo. So I disabled voodoo and restored the backup again and it worked perfectly.
So I don't think you need to disable voodoo to do a nandroid backup; just to restore one.
I haven't re-enabled voodoo yet. Battery needs to charge a bit.
I've done backup and restore without disabling voodoo, because I forgot. It worked fine though. Now that I have read about issues with disabling voodoo I am kinda nervous to to even try it.
What do you think I should do in the future?
Thanx, you guys rock for making our phones faster and better...
I have been messing around with CWM after having to restore from messing up voodoo, was getting a bunch of force closes. voodoo was removed and my backups weren't working properly. I believe it was because the backup was made with voodoo still installed.
So what I ended up doing was going back to a backup that I had made before I did voodoo and removed all the bloatware. I have been reinstalling all my programs and I tried making a backup before putting voodoo and all my apps back on to have a clean backup.
The backup came up with an error about not being able to back up programs. Forget what it said exactly. So I decided to test it out. I installed some programs I didn't want and tried restoring the clean backup I had just made. But the programs were still on the phone. I thought the backup would put it back to the original clean backup. It changed the wallpaper back, but the programs were still there.
So I guess my questions are this....
When making a backup and restoring a backup, should I always disable voodoo first?
What am I doing wrong with the CWM thats not making it backup the apps I have installed?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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I have been messing around with CWM after having to restore from messing up voodoo, was getting a bunch of force closes. voodoo was removed and my backups weren't working properly. I believe it was because the backup was made with voodoo still installed.
So what I ended up doing was going back to a backup that I had made before I did voodoo and removed all the bloatware. I have been reinstalling all my programs and I tried making a backup before putting voodoo and all my apps back on to have a clean backup.
The backup came up with an error about not being able to back up programs. Forget what it said exactly. So I decided to test it out. I installed some programs I didn't want and tried restoring the clean backup I had just made. But the programs were still on the phone. I thought the backup would put it back to the original clean backup. It changed the wallpaper back, but the programs were still there.
So I guess my questions are this....
When making a backup and restoring a backup, should I always disable voodoo first?
What am I doing wrong with the CWM thats not making it backup the apps I have installed?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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You cannot use CWM restore or create a backup with Voodoo installed.
What about the apps not restoring properly?
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I have gotten everything up and running properly without any hiccups for a while now. been going back and forth between different roms and kernels and back to original and everything is working.
must have been becuase I didnt disable voodoo before backing up
Hi all,
I am interested in trying custom roms for various reasons on my G2. With the recent breakthrough in allowing full root, now seems to be a good time to try.
What I don't seem to be grasping is the whole process so, here is what I think* needs to be done, and I'd appreciate a more seasoned person to set me straight
1. Obtain full root via RAGE or oneclick Visionary method
2. Install RomManager
3. Obtain Rom
Here is where I kind of get blurry on the whole topic.
Once I have the files needed, Does RomManager do a nandroid backup so I can revert back in case I want to revert back to stock? Is this how I would revert back to stock or do I need to find the original pre or post OTA rom for the g2?
Does a program like Titanium Backup allow me to backup all of my apps and settings so they are easily restored no matter the rom, or if I revert back to stock?
Thanks in advance all, I have been reading every subset of these forums but I still feel a bit scared to try and wanted to get the facts straight before trying. I'm mostly just concerned that I wouldnt be able to revert back to stock if I had to.
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Once I have the files needed, Does RomManager do a nandroid backup so I can revert back in case I want to revert back to stock? Is this how I would revert back to stock or do I need to find the original pre or post OTA rom for the g2?
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rom manager can perform the backup, wipe, and install of a new ROM all in one go, you just need to tell rom manager where the ROM is on the sdcard and it will ask if you want to backup and/or wipe first
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Does a program like Titanium Backup allow me to backup all of my apps and settings so they are easily restored no matter the rom, or if I revert back to stock?
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i do not know if titanium backup will restore the settings within the apps, but the backed up apps will work on any custom ROM you install on your phone.
Thank you for making that more clear!
So when wiping for a new rom, you want to wipe the cache, and do a full system wipe as well?
Lastly, now that I have the stock g2 rom backed up (did it manually via recovery, not in the rommanager app) I can flash as many roms I want to try them, but really can revert back to stock based on that backup. I guess what I'm saying is, I dont have to revert to stock before trying out a new rom right?
Thanks again, this is a huge help!
With your ROM backed up, that's essentially a "screenshot" of the state of your phone at that time. So yes, you can jump from ROM to ROM, clearing data, and whenever you're ready to go back to stock, you just restore your stock ROM and pretend nothing happened.
And yes, I recommend wiping everything when flashing a new ROM. Although if you're coming from the same type of ROM (I.E HTC Sense to another HTC Sense) you can probably get away with not wiping data.
And with Titanium Backup, I do reckon that settings are kept. When you restore apps, you're given the option to restore the app or app+data.
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Perfect,
Thanks for the help all, much appreciated.
Hi,
Sorry if this has been answered already but I did search the forum and couldn't find an answer.
So 2 days ago I got into flashing my Sam GS2, I followed the instructions completely, I made a NAND backup of my current ROM.
I used ROM manager to install Cyanogen nightly ROM build 75, which I liked a lot but the camera didn't work and realised after it was a test build, so decided to go back to my current ROM. I went into CWM recovery and restored, within 5 mins I was back to like nothing happened.
I then download VillanROM 3.0, again a few bugs so I decided install TK ROM 3.6 I never restored to backup this time as I thought that wasn't necessary, but when I now restore my backup through CWM I get my settings but not my data?
Why is this? The backup file is still there and the same size as before, have I done something wrong?
The reason why I restored was after finding that TK ROM was a stable ROM I forgot to back up my GO SMS settings and Smart keyboard pro settings so I wanted to back up to SD card, re-install the apps and then just restore the settings, now it looks like I won't be able too.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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Me for one fails to understand the problem .
jje
Well short version.
I did a NAND backup so I could go back to original ROM just incase things went pair shaped, I managed to restore to it after first flash, then on the 3rd time after realising that I forgot to back up certain app settings, I restored the NAND it does it reboots but only with settings and nothing else.
Can you help?
A failed nandroid restore looks to be a corrupt backup .
jje
Well I thought as much, thought I was doing something wrong.
Just have make sure I do 2 backups next time.
Thanks for the reply.