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Hi Guys,
Been a long time since I posted on this forum, back in the days of my T-Mobile MDA Vario! Thankfully moved on to a better operating system in the shape of Google's Android. Any way my question relates to the new Donut (1.6) update. I've had a read off the features for this update from the Google Android website but i'm having trouble using some of them.
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-1.6-highlights.html
Text-to-speech
I've activated the settings for this in the Settings menu and downloaded the necessary voice pack from the market but so far can't seem to get it to work. Ideally i want it to be able to read back my text messages as this is very handy for when driving, but i can't find any options to turn this on. Anyone got any ideas?
Voice Dialling
Another feature useful while driving (hands free of course) and the normal way on most phones is of course to press and hold a certain button. I think I must have tried every button for this one but still can't find it.
Any help you guys can give would be great thanks.
tubbyman said:
Hi Guys,
Voice Dialling
Another feature useful while driving (hands free of course) and the normal way on most phones is of course to press and hold a certain button. I think I must have tried every button for this one but still can't find it.
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Voice Dialing (and Voice Search) is not installed outside of US (and maybe AU).
If it was, you would have a microphone icon beside the google search button.
And for Voice dialing, you could just long press the green dial button (physical button)
oh right didn't realise that was a US only feature, guess I can wait till éclair for them to roll it out here. Any update on text-to-speech?
tubbyman said:
Any update on text-to-speech?
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Try the application TalkBack . (it might be already installed on your phone, or install from market).
You can activate it in Settings-Accessibility. Then android menus/popups/... will be talked to you !
(you should also install Text-To-Speech Extended from market )
My wife and I got new Blueant headsets and we're testing them out. The quality of the headsets themselves seem good enough. But oh my God, trying to use the phone's native voice commands, it is ponderous. Trying to call my wife I was successful 1 time out of I don't maybe 50 tries. I tried "open ...." with every possible application... "No results, please try again." And when the voice says "redial", "redee-ill"??? Seriously? Redee-ill???
Anyone have any tips or know of any apps that can replace this horrible system? I come from an iPhone 3gs and while I love this phone so much more, the iPhone voice command system was amazing. This voice command system is pitiful at best.
I got Choice Dialer+ Free for voice dialing since the built in one was complete crap for me.
It works great.
Are you talking about Voice Dialer? Because I have absolutely no problems with it whatsoever. I have tried Choice Dialer + free and that thing is a horrible POS. It thought Market was Latitude yet the native voice system could get "Open Superuser Permissions".
I love the Voice Command on this phone. I think you are thinking of something else though.
It has the best VTT in the biz.
Might be a Mic issue.
Don't use voice dialer. Hold search and say call wife.
Hrmm, maybe I am missing something.
When I hold down search by default it only does a google search online, even if I say "Call Daniel". It just pulls up a google search for call daniel.
Is this configurable? I tried looking in settings but didn't find anything that looked relevant.
Edit: This would rock if so. The search app almost always gets it right. I just have issues with the voice dialer app.
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^^^^i'm having the same problem he is having^^^..
Indeed I also have terrible problems with the voice dialing feature from my bluetooth's (Jawbone Icon, Plantronics 925 and Jawbone 2). All the headsets are amazing and have no problem when on a phone call. Yet voice dialing with them is seriously TERRIBLE. Using voice to text though for SMS,Emails are fine. Odd...
Just to clarify, I'm yalkinggg about the voice dialer. I said voice command because its supposed to be able to open apps as well but that hasn't worked. Voice search is incredible. In fact I tried voice dialing my wife and it failed miserably but saying the same thing inti the voice searched worked perfectly. It even spelled her name right and she has a somewhat unusual name. So its not a mic issue, its a voice dialer issue.
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while i don't use the bluetooth configuration, i can say i do use the voice dialer with no issues whatsoever. i usually hold the phone in front of me (not up to my ear, which is probably what i should be doing, lol), start the voice dialer (or voice search, both will work), and say "call *insert friend's name* mobile", or "call *insert friend's name* home". never had an issue. if it can't guess absolutely, it puts up a list of what it suspects are candidates, i click on it and go. same sort of thing as "navigate to *insert place i want to go*". works like a charm
timothydonohue said:
while i don't use the bluetooth configuration, i can say i do use the voice dialer with no issues whatsoever. i usually hold the phone in front of me (not up to my ear, which is probably what i should be doing, lol), start the voice dialer (or voice search, both will work), and say "call *insert friend's name* mobile", or "call *insert friend's name* home". never had an issue. if it can't guess absolutely, it puts up a list of what it suspects are candidates, i click on it and go. same sort of thing as "navigate to *insert place i want to go*". works like a charm
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I'm looking for this to work over Bluetooth. In my opinion using voice dialer right from the headset is worthless because it takes twice as long as just using the smart dialer in the phone interface. The whole point to me is to have the phone in my pocket and the headset on, use the voice command to make a call without having to touch the phone at all. Like in a driving scenario.
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So I guess you're talking about voice dialing as in "EIGHT-ZERO-ZERO-FIVE-THREE..."? Is this so you can dial numbers that aren't in your phone? Because otherwise if the number is in your phone (or you're looking for a business) then I say, "call ____ mobile," as someone else has pointed out already.
Did the headset have any apps or anything you had to put on the phone? Maybe that part is buggy?
If you have a heavy accent what do you expect?
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So I guess you're talking about voice dialing as in "EIGHT-ZERO-ZERO-FIVE-THREE..."? Is this so you can dial numbers that aren't in your phone? Because otherwise if the number is in your phone (or you're looking for a business) then I say, "call ____ mobile," as someone else has pointed out already.
Did the headset have any apps or anything you had to put on the phone? Maybe that part is buggy?
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No I'm talking about contacts that are entered into the phone.
I tried Choice Dialer Plus and the voice recognition works great. Super accurate. My only issue, and it's a biggie, is if the screen is off, I activate the voice control through bluetooth, I say the command, it confirms, it won't actually place the call until i press the power button and unlock the phone. Then the call connects immediately. That's counter intuitive since I want to not have to touch the phone at all.
I have to admit I don't use it that often. I just noticed that it actually is able to pick up what I say perfectly fine.
I have no accent but every time I try using the Voice Dialer application it shows me a list of names nowhere near what I said. I haven't tried it in 2.2 yet, but I assume it's the same.
wowwww i just tried the voice dialer and holy bajeezus, what a pile of poop.
not one single time did it get anything correct. and it was even putting people names in there that didnt even remotely sound like what i said.
this was via the phones mic, not a headset.
voice search works much better.
I guess my Chicago accent is what works.
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r u on 2.1 or 2.2? 2.2 is way better
however windows mobile still has the best voice dial hand down ... and it had it in 2005
I have a blueant Z9i and it works awesome. Flippin 10x better than the dialer on my old BB9630. I'm thinking it does have something to do with accent. <<<---Midwest here.
topdnbass said:
It has the best VTT in the biz.
Might be a Mic issue.
Don't use voice dialer. Hold search and say call wife.
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Does that work if you don't have a wife? Does it call my FUTURE wife? LOLZZZ!
Sorry, I couldn't resist.
It works for me just fine. I also find the speach to text to be very good.
edit: I called Verizon earlier and ordered the Droid 2, sending the Droid X back. Reason being, the Android Eyes Free Shell and the Talking Dialer make use of either a trackball or a directional pad. The Droid X has neither. This should also solve the answering/hanging up problem, as im pretty sure on the Droid 2 you can slide it open to answer and slide it closed to hang up. I'm starting a new thread in the Droid 2 General section, but i'll still be watching this one if anyone has anything to add
Ok guys, the Droid X I ordered for my sister arrived yesterday. I personally have an EVO, but I gotta say the Droid X is pretty sweet. Much better designed phone then the EVO, but it is lacking 4g and a front cam (although honestly I dont use those 2 features much anyways). I cannot believe how light it is! My phone feels like a brick compared to the X!
Anyways, this post is not about comparing the X and the EVO, it's about setting up the Droid X for a blind person. My 25 year old sister lost her vision last year from diabetes. I'm hoping to setup this phone so she can use it on her own to make/receive calls and text messages, use the TiKL push to talk app, compose/read emails, have facebook updates read to her, pandora, that kind of thing.
First thing I'll need to do is get rid of the lock screen, not ideally made for a blind person thats for sure! I'll probably try and set it up with a "shake to unlock" app.
Secondly, the first thing I want her to be able to do obviously is make and receive calls. Problem is right now she cant slide to answer a call. I'll need to replace that somehow so she can answer the phone more easily. Any ideas?
SOLVED (double tap home) Next of course is dialing a call. The Motorola Voice Dialing thats built into the dialer is pretty awesome, we don't have something like that in HTC Sense. I need her to be able to press a button on the phone and start the voice dialer. The only way I know how to do that right now is using the search button which launches the google voice search. That's not what I want, I want her to be able to use the one that Motorola built into the dialer, as it's much better designed for a blind person. It re-reads your command and asks for confirmations that that is indeed the right person, and if it's not it goes down the list of the next closest match. The google voice search feature does none of that. If you say "Call OneStepAhead on Mobile" it just starts dialing, it doesn't ask for a confirmation. Any devs out there that could figure out how to remap the camera button on the side of the Droid X to launch the Moto voice dialer? It's for a good cause!
Once I get these things resolved I'll move on to things like facebook. A 25 year old girl with over 1000 facebook friends not being able to use facebook anymore, well, its practically the end of the world to her!
Thanks in advance to anyone that is willing to help with this task, it's very much appreciated.
By default you can press the home button 2 times to get voice command to dial. This should help with your voice dialing.
A phone with no keys is probably not the best for a blind person.
Get her a basic phone that accepts voice commands
Don't mean to be rude, but its not like she's gonna be browsing the web or looking at the big screen.
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Double pressing home auto launches the voice command function. You can do almost anything from there.
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One way I can think to allow her to answer a phone call without having to know where to touch on the screen id to have her use a BT headset. Then all she needs do is press the button on the headset to answer.
sp1kez said:
A phone with no keys is probably not the best for a blind person.
Get her a basic phone that accepts voice commands
Don't mean to be rude, but its not like she's gonna be browsing the web or looking at the big screen.
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umm, actually thats exactly what she'll be doing. maybe your just ignorant to disabilities, but blind people DO use the web, facebook, twitter, youtube (yes youtube), and everything else. and actually touch screens are ideal for blind people, you can use gestures with your fingers, and the bigger screen the better. it's very difficult for a blind person to use tiny little keys on a phone. are you even familiar with the Android Eyes Free project? I fail to see the point in your post, I'm not asking you which phone I should buy, i already bought one.
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One way I can think to allow her to answer a phone call without having to know where to touch on the screen id to have her use a BT headset. Then all she needs do is press the button on the headset to answer.
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yup, thought of that. i ordered one last week, should be here soon. the problem with a bluetooth headset though is it can be an easy thing to lose if your blind! im hoping she'll use the headset a majority of the time, but we still want a way to answer the phone without one.
I called Verizon earlier and ordered the Droid 2, sending the Droid X back. Reason being, the Android Eyes Free Shell and the Talking Dialer make use of either a trackball or a directional pad. The Droid X has neither. This should also solve the answering/hanging up problem, as im pretty sure on the Droid 2 you can slide it open to answer and slide it closed to hang up.
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Double pressing home auto launches the voice command function. You can do almost anything from there.
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THANK YOU!! That was a big help, now she can pretty much do anything on it! I'm assuming the Droid 2 will work the same way. Awesome!!
I saw you had the evo, grate phone, I am working for sprint, and a girl from work and I both whent out and bought the epic, very nice phone, and if your sister is looking for a good phone she can use, the epic has the slide out keyboard, and eyes free shell now takes advantage of the touch screen, i've been completely blind all my life, and have used talks on nokia phones, mobile speak on windows mobile phones, the iphone and now the epic, the only thing i don't like about the epic is there isn't a quick way to use the talkback feature by turnning it off and on, though now that i've rootted my phone i might be able to figure out a way to rute a key to the talkback software both activating it and deactivating it, not sure though.
anyways, hope your sister's phone is working fine for her, have you found a good app that works for twitter for her? The built in fb app is crap, removed it with titainum backup, so i don'th ave to have that crap on my phone, do most fb work via sms and sutch.
anyways if you want to chat with a blind person using android since start of oct for questions and sutch, send me a pm
michael!!
--Sprint, epic user.
With a Droid X it might be a good idea to go in to Settings > Accessibility > Power Button and check the checkbox (it allows you to end calls by pressing the power / unlock button on the top of the phone. I use it my self as I have a fondness for physical end call buttons...
If I say "Send text to [X] where are we meeting" the Galaxy S2 actually tries to search that phrase instead of actioning it.
Any way to correct this ?
Voice recognition info (love it!)
Hi, Yes if you have the stock phone, double tap the home button to access the Touchwiz Vlingo. I have found this to be not only more accurate than the Google input, but I don't need to get as close to the mic.
I have found it uncannily accurate, and this is the first phone where voice recognition has been more than a gimmick for me.
such as
"Text John Smith how are you doing John question mark"
will give you an SMS window in Vlingo
How are you doing John?
You then have the option to resend etc.
Other useful ones like 'Show me a map of nearest petrol stations"
or
'Navigate to EC1V 2AA'
or
Navigate to the nearest petrol station.
Theres loads of useful stuff on there, I love it's integration in search, nav, maps messaging (text and email) etc..
Driving mode allows you to keep it in permanent listening mode (also an option under voice settings in Settings). Do as SMS come in it will read to you, an you can say 'Reply Thanks for the update' etc.
Lastly, but no means least, you can set your highly amusing greeting under Settings->Voice input and output->Voice recog settings->Voice talk settings to whatever you want. Some words work better than others, like Yo! What do you want dude? You'll also find options under this lot for chosing Vlingo or Google.
Have fun.
Peter
Interesting .. I played with it yesterday too .. unfortunately my English is not good. Vlingo mostly does what I want .. but Google NEVER ! It seems like it does not even interpret commands .. if I say something like 'listen to xxx' .. it sometimes does understand what I said .. but instead of playing the song, it sends it to internet search. What do I do wrong ? Is there some option to setup google voice search ? Is it possible to use it instead of Vlingo ?
thompps said:
Lastly, but no means least, you can set your highly amusing greeting under Settings->Voice input and output->Voice recog settings->Voice talk settings to whatever you want. Some words work better than others, like Yo! What do you want dude? You'll also find options under this lot for chosing Vlingo or Google.
Have fun.
Peter
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@ DrVid, yes - see above!
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@ DrVid, yes - see above!
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Unfortunately no .. this imho affects what is used when dictating text. But when I double press 'home', I still get Vlingo, even if I have set this setting to Google.
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Unfortunately no .. this imho affects what is used when dictating text. But when I double press 'home', I still get Vlingo, even if I have set this setting to Google.
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Hi, yes you will. The screen you are referring to is always powered by vlingo, as it is part of Touchwiz as far as I know (and as stock assigned to the double tap).
This setting controls the default voice engine (not software front end), so theoretically when for example you are dictating a text you will now be using Vlingo. But this will not change you using the Voice Talk when double click.
As for your problem, you should be saying 'play music by', rather than 'listen to' Curiously this does result in search for me too, but only when I have selected the Voice Commands from Apps and not when double clicking into it??!!
cheers
Peter
Ahh, cracked it!!
The Voice Control app accessed by double clicking home button accesses the same app, but will only let you use the set commands shown and a couple of other like maps. And for me always works well with 'Play Music' - not 'Listen to.'
Key difference between this and the Voice Commands app accessed from Applications is that that if it doesn't understand you it says it could not recognise command or similar.
whereas the one from Apps will run a search if it understood the words but not the command. Basically, two different implementations of 'don't understand command'.
Hope this helps!
Hi guys,
I use my Nexus 4 in conjunction with a first gen Sena SMH10 for listening to music, Navigation via Google Maps & taking calls. I have a few simple desires to make it operate just so, but I don't know how to make these things work or if it's even possible out of the box.
Google Navigation should either always be on top or allow the phone app to show the caller ID and then return to focus afterwards without prompt or user intervention
Google voice search should work repeatedly for multiple queries without having to exit the app each time. I have to use a third party app (bluetooth launch) to call it using the voice command button on my Sena over the voice dialler app anyway which would be OK but it only seems to work for calling one person and then freezes on that screen.
The reason for the both requests is that I don't want to have to pull pver to get the phone to be back on the Navigation view each time something interrupts the app. The screen will go blank if either I call someone or someone calls me during Navigation and then won't come back sfter the call without me pulling over to sort it out. Pulling over, taking my gloves off and fumbling around through the plastic of the holder I have is a pain and these functions above are quite easy to achieve I'm sure but may need some more customisation than I have the dev skills for. Or perhaps it can't be done without Google's intervention? I don't know but I posted here as it's the forum most likely to have someone who does!
Thanks in advance for your help!
Google Now?
Yep - it's the most reliable for its ability to recognise what I'm asking when riding at 60 or 70MPH. I tried Vlingo but it just doesn't have the same recognition quality when compared to Google Now.
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