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My EVO is rooted with custom Evio 1.5 ROM.
Now my question is, I thought that you could have it so that th EVO acts a wireless hotspot for other devices.
Now, I know that you can have it act as a hotspot and transmit the 3G/4G signal as a rotuer.
BUT, I thought it was possible to make it so the EVO could share the wireless signal that it is connected to, to other devices.
Sorry if this sounds confusing, but I live in an apartment complex with free wifi, but it requires you to open up a browser and it redirects you to a page where you enter some info and it gives you a free "account" to access the internet. Well, my friend wants to go on Xbox Live and well, the 360 does not have a browser to enter the information, thus the wifi blocks his 360.
My EVO picks up the wifi just fine (because it has a browser) so I thought it would be a good idea, to receive the wireless signal and transmit it to his Xbox 360 as a different router but still using Wireless speeds.
I swear that when I was messing around with my EVO that I could share my wireless internet with other devices, but I thought it was a useless tool, because if the device can already connect to WiFi, then why does it need to connect to my EVO. But now, I see a good use for it, but for some reason I cannot figure out how to do it.
3G is a lot slower than our WiFi, and we don't have 4G in Rochester, MN.
Does anyone know if there is a way for the 360 to bypass it, or know how to transmit a wireless signal from the phone and turn it into a router.
Maybe this will help
http://www.videojug.com/webvideo/how-to-get-an-internet-browser-on-an-xbox-360-game-console
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I don't think that it is possible. There is only one wifi radio. Either it is using wifi to be a client, or as the hotspot or tether application a host.
Think that you would need two wifi devices, like a notebook or desktop running wifi and using the ethernet port running Internet sharing plugged into the back of the Xbox using ethernet or possible using ethernet from your PC into a router.
I work for a company that installs systems similar to the one probably being used in your apartment complex. Devices on our system (Nomadix) are authenticated by MAC address. Have you tried to spoof the Xbox's mac address on a computer, sign in to the web and then attempt to connect with the 360?
AFAIK you cannot both connect to an access point and broadcast a signal for another device to connect to. I know that you CAN connect to an access point and USB tether. You can also connect a laptop to the free wifi and share the connection to the xbox with a cat5 cable.
download "wireless tether pre 11" and use it to play xbox live, i used myn the other night for about 5 hours and only burnt through 20 some megs, um if you dont have wifi on your xbox, use a laptop and pic up the signal with it and plug in an ethernet cable to your xbox from your laptop. that will also work, it is a bit slower than your net in your apartment, as i was only getting two to three bars the whole night.
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My EVO is rooted with custom Evio 1.5 ROM.
Now my question is, I thought that you could have it so that th EVO acts a wireless hotspot for other devices.
Now, I know that you can have it act as a hotspot and transmit the 3G/4G signal as a rotuer.
BUT, I thought it was possible to make it so the EVO could share the wireless signal that it is connected to, to other devices.
Sorry if this sounds confusing, but I live in an apartment complex with free wifi, but it requires you to open up a browser and it redirects you to a page where you enter some info and it gives you a free "account" to access the internet. Well, my friend wants to go on Xbox Live and well, the 360 does not have a browser to enter the information, thus the wifi blocks his 360.
My EVO picks up the wifi just fine (because it has a browser) so I thought it would be a good idea, to receive the wireless signal and transmit it to his Xbox 360 as a different router but still using Wireless speeds.
I swear that when I was messing around with my EVO that I could share my wireless internet with other devices, but I thought it was a useless tool, because if the device can already connect to WiFi, then why does it need to connect to my EVO. But now, I see a good use for it, but for some reason I cannot figure out how to do it.
3G is a lot slower than our WiFi, and we don't have 4G in Rochester, MN.
Does anyone know if there is a way for the 360 to bypass it, or know how to transmit a wireless signal from the phone and turn it into a router.
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Spoof your computer mac address to that of you 360. Activate, then connect 360
Or use a laptop to connect to wifi, then a bridge ethernet cable form laptop to xbox.
or you could (insert something that was already said four posts up).
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I work for a company that installs systems similar to the one probably being used in your apartment complex. Devices on our system (Nomadix) are authenticated by MAC address. Have you tried to spoof the Xbox's mac address on a computer, sign in to the web and then attempt to connect with the 360?
AFAIK you cannot both connect to an access point and broadcast a signal for another device to connect to. I know that you CAN connect to an access point and USB tether. You can also connect a laptop to the free wifi and share the connection to the xbox with a cat5 cable.
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Haha, that's hilarious, the service that our apartment uses is Nomadix.
Thanks for the help guys, got it all figured out
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or you could (insert something that was already said four posts up).
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Same thing donut grunt said also, but he said cat5 which is an ethetnet cord, I just said so ppl would understand. But good deal, how did you fix your issue?
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I have managed to connect to wifi tether, and the built in hotspot, and with barnacle. I opened the proper ports in barnacle, but always come up with strict NAT settings.
I then used wired and wireless to tether my Ubuntu desktop, and connected the Ethernet to the Xbox. Still strict. I then tried opening the ports with firestarter and now it connects to the network and internet but not Xbox live. Has anyone successfully got NAT open while tethering?
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I have managed to connect to wifi tether, and the built in hotspot, and with barnacle. I opened the proper ports in barnacle, but always come up with strict NAT settings.
I then used wired and wireless to tether my Ubuntu desktop, and connected the Ethernet to the Xbox. Still strict. I then tried opening the ports with firestarter and now it connects to the network and internet but not Xbox live. Has anyone successfully got NAT open while tethering?
#AngelFace#
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If you are trying to tether with the intent of playing online gaming or streaming Netflix the Bandwidth isn't high enough to support it.
Streaming Netflix works perfectly fine. Full HD playback. The gaming is slightly lagged, but I think opening NAT might help.
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Streaming Netflix works perfectly fine. Full HD playback. The gaming is slightly lagged, but I think opening NAT might help.
#AngelFace#
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Unfortunately, unless you can get t-mobile to forward the ports needed to your phones outside ip from the tower, its not gonna happen. The towers all have a couple of t1's that provide data to your phones. The ports would have to be forwarded on the routers at the towers, and thats just not gonna happen.
Damn, thanks option. My next question would be of this nature:
Why the hell does barnacle have port forwarding options if the networks control that?
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Damn, thanks option. My next question would be of this nature:
Why the hell does barnacle have port forwarding options if the networks control that?
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Because you can use it to forward ports locally, but you need ports forwarded publically for xbox and such to work.
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Because you can use it to forward ports locally, but you need ports forwarded publically for xbox and such to work.
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You're the man. I ****ing hate networking of any kind.
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I hate it since it can be rather annoying, but its what I do.
I'm gonna try calling T-Mobile and see if they'll open the ports. Any suggestions on an excuse for having this done? I'd rather not advertise that I'm using their hotspot for free. Lol.
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I'm gonna try calling T-Mobile and see if they'll open the ports. Any suggestions on an excuse for having this done? I'd rather not advertise that I'm using their hotspot for free. Lol.
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LOL. Good luck with that. Its not gonna happen. Could pose a major security risk for them potentially. Well, not really witht he ports you need, but they wont see it that way.
They told me that there is no way for them to do it. They said if I buy the tethering plan it should fix that problem. I got the plan, and its still a no go. I then called back and asked another guy that said they can't give me any information about it. He told me the tethering plan is strictly for internet explorer or safari. Douche bags.
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They told me that there is no way for them to do it. They said if I buy the tethering plan it should fix that problem. I got the plan, and its still a no go. I then called back and asked another guy that said they can't give me any information about it. He told me the tethering plan is strictly for internet explorer or safari. Douche bags.
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Welcome to the world of attempting to do more than what a provider claims they want to sell you. Before home routers were ubiquitous if you called your ISP that your service was down and dared answer "Yes" that you had a router support died right there. It was obviously a user equipment fault and they would investigate no further!
Understand that T-Mo and all comm providers are catering to the lowest common denominator "Joe User" with their service; it's what makes profit. Fringe use cases like yours don't. Case in point, Charter refused to help me at all even when I could prove an outage in their network simply because when asked "What OS are you using" I said "Linux" -- they tried to tell me the internet only functioned on MAC and Windows!
The point of all this is: you may be able to do what you're attempting with some network trickery if you have the time and energy to invest into Googling the knowledge. Just don't expect your provider to help you any, and they're not douches for it .
You shouldn't need any port forwarding at all. Port forwarding is to work through a firewall and your hot spot doesn't have one. You get straight internet access to it. Your game its most likely laggy due to poor latency or poor upload speeds. I've tried playing from xbox live on my hot spot too with about 3 MB down and 512 KB up on HPDA.
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I want to make my tablet a Wi-Fi hotspot so I can share files by connecting my phone to the tablet Wi-Fi ap, and start a ftp server.
Can it be done? I tried foxfi but it crashed when I tried to enable AP.
I can use my phones tether option, but when I do my ftp app says "please connect to a network"
Thanks
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To clarify, I want to share ftp from my phone, connected to host AP on my nexus 10, and access on my nexus 10. I have been able to connect my laptop and tablet to my phone AP, and successfully shared files (apache2 http server) from my laptop to tablet, but this requires my laptop to be constantly on, also my phone.
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For what? Lol
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Sigh, I really wish I could get it working.
I downloaded an iwconfig binary but it says:
Code:
# iwconfig
lo no wireless extensions.
sit0 no wireless extensions.
wlan0 no wireless extensions.
ip6tnl0 no wireless extensions.
p2p0 no wireless extensions.
Im confused what you are trying to accomplish. If you host the FTP on your phone, and want to connect the Nexus 10 to the FTP to share files, then all you do is on your phone turn on wifi tether, and connect to the wireless network the phone creates from your N10. I dont think it is possible to make a tablet an access point that doesnt have a cell service internet connection. In order for the Nexus 10 to be an "access point" it would actually be just a repeater from your routers (or phones, or whatever) internet connection. But you already have that on your phone and by making your phone the hotspot you just connect your tablet to the phone like it was connecting to any normal wireless network.
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Im confused what you are trying to accomplish. If you host the FTP on your phone, and want to connect the Nexus 10 to the FTP to share files, then all you do is on your phone turn on wifi tether, and connect to the wireless network the phone creates from your N10. I dont think it is possible to make a tablet an access point that doesnt have a cell service internet connection. In order for the Nexus 10 to be an "access point" it would actually be just a repeater from your routers (or phones, or whatever) internet connection. But you already have that on your phone and by making your phone the hotspot you just connect your tablet to the phone like it was connecting to any normal wireless network.
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No, I just want my Nexus 10 to be able to HOST [read: have IP 192.168.43.1], to be able to connect my phone to it [192.168.43.105], so that my FTP app will see I really am connected to wifi.
In tether mode, phone has 192.168.43.1, however the app doesn't recognize it as being connected since it's in tether, and not regularly connected to wifi, and will not start because it says Please connect to a network.
This is why I would like my Nexus 10 to host an infrastructure network.
Well sorry but I dont know how to help you with that sort of setup. or if it will even work. I highly doubt it will work since normally you MUST be on data to start a tether. This is because it configured your wifi radio for a different mode that allows others to connect. I dont think it is possible to have the same radio be configured in two separate ways at the same time.
WHy not just do what the majority of people do and get a dropbox for free and host the files there. Your tablet and phone will both be able to access it.
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Well sorry but I dont know how to help you with that sort of setup. or if it will even work. I highly doubt it will work since normally you MUST be on data to start a tether. This is because it configured your wifi radio for a different mode that allows others to connect. I dont think it is possible to have the same radio be configured in two separate ways at the same time.
WHy not just do what the majority of people do and get a dropbox for free and host the files there. Your tablet and phone will both be able to access it.
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Look, you have no clue what you're talking about.
I know what I intend to do will work IF I could get my tablet to make a network in infrastructure mode. I do not want to hear about "better ways" to do it, you have no clue what my situation is.
You are really wrong on a lot of points [you do not need an actual data connection/plan to start a tether network, on pretty much any phone that supports it], you really don't know, I understand, but please stop saying "it can't be done," or just stop replying. Also I cannot just use dropbox because it would take a zillion years to upload 4GB movies. And when I'm traveling [like now] I do not always have wifi.
lol. Wow dude what a **** post. Here I am trying to help you and you be a complete ass about it my suggestion? I thought of soemthing that might work and was going to post it but since you feel like telling me to go **** myself then same to you buddy.
I think I am picking up what you are laying down.
You want to start a wireless network between your N10 and your phone without using a wireless router or access point device.
If you were trying this back in the old days you would simply use a ethernet cross over cable between two ethernet cards and set them to have the same subnet.
Can't say that I know how to do this though with wireless networking.
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This is the type of thing Wifi Direct is supposed to be for. The Nexus 10 supports that, it's under the menu in wireless settings. Not sure if your phone does, of course.
Also, depending on AP settings, two devices (clients) on the same wireless network can communicate with each other. It's relayed through the AP, so it will be somewhat slower.
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Look, you have no clue what you're talking about.
I know what I intend to do will work IF I could get my tablet to make a network in infrastructure mode. I do not want to hear about "better ways" to do it, you have no clue what my situation is.
You are really wrong on a lot of points [you do not need an actual data connection/plan to start a tether network, on pretty much any phone that supports it], you really don't know, I understand, but please stop saying "it can't be done," or just stop replying. Also I cannot just use dropbox because it would take a zillion years to upload 4GB movies. And when I'm traveling [like now] I do not always have wifi.
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You are being a **** man.. and I uploaded borderlands 2 in less than 3 hours to my drop box.. you don't need data tho, but you may need a cellular radio. Why not use a PC or a USB otg cable and connect the 2? Do it all the time with my N7 and HTC vivid
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Still not clear as to what the problem is. Since both on 192.168 non-routable networks presumably they are sitting next to one another. Then who cares which device is the AP? One should be able to run ftp server and the other ftp client. Since he doesn't need data then it seems ftp is just to access one device from the over - no true tether for external data.
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Here's what I did and it works to share files between phone and tablet without PC using ftp. Both devices running ES File Explorer. Droid Charge phone hotspot started - has IP address 192.168.43.1. Turn on ftp server within es file explorer on phone. Connect to phone from tablet over WiFi. Phone assigns tablet IP address - in this case 192.168.43.131. On the tablet open es file explorer and define the ftp server that is running on the phone. Once done perform the ftp connection from the tablet to the phone. You can then ftp between the two for as much as you want.
I am paying for phone tethering app on phone. The apps I see in the market seem to identify issues with JB or seem just too old to depend on. Regardless, if you just want to ftp between the two you do not need tethering. You need an app that will act as a hotspot managing devices, security and IP addresses. Another option is a cheap portable access point. Again, you keep focusing on ftp - not the internet. The ap creates a WiFi network that your phone and tablet can connect to - no different than a crossover cable between two wired Ethernet devices. As long as the both are on the same network you are good to go.
BTW - you may think you've perfectly explained what you are looking for answers to. You have not so you should not be too surprised at some of the answers.
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Reilly1812 said:
Here's what I did and it works to share files between phone and tablet without PC using ftp. Both devices running ES File Explorer. Droid Charge phone hotspot started - has IP address 192.168.43.1. Turn on ftp server within es file explorer on phone. Connect to phone from tablet over WiFi. Phone assigns tablet IP address - in this case 192.168.43.131. On the tablet open es file explorer and define the ftp server that is running on the phone. Once done perform the ftp connection from the tablet to the phone. You can then ftp between the two for as much as you want.
I am paying for phone tethering app on phone. The apps I see in the market seem to identify issues with JB or seem just too old to depend on. Regardless, if you just want to ftp between the two you do not need tethering. You need an app that will act as a hotspot managing devices, security and IP addresses. Another option is a cheap portable access point. Again, you keep focusing on ftp - not the internet. The ap creates a WiFi network that your phone and tablet can connect to - no different than a crossover cable between two wired Ethernet devices. As long as the both are on the same network you are good to go.
BTW - you may think you've perfectly explained what you are looking for answers to. You have not so you should not be too surprised at some of the answers.
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actually I explained it pretty well: can nexus 10 be an AP? How?
Look up AP on Google.
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Still not clear as to what the problem is. Since both on 192.168 non-routable networks presumably they are sitting next to one another. Then who cares which device is the AP? One should be able to run ftp server and the other ftp client. Since he doesn't need data then it seems ftp is just to access one device from the over - no true tether for external data.
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I think I explained my FTP doesn't honor tether mode, it technically can access wlan0 to get ip to bind, just the dev didn't allow it.
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You are being a **** man.. and I uploaded borderlands 2 in less than 3 hours to my drop box.. you don't need data tho, but you may need a cellular radio. Why not use a PC or a USB otg cable and connect the 2? Do it all the time with my N7 and HTC vivid
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You're missing the point. I want to INSTANTLY stream from phone to tablet.
also I only have 0.6Mbps up.
derobert said:
This is the type of thing Wifi Direct is supposed to be for. The Nexus 10 supports that, it's under the menu in wireless settings. Not sure if your phone does, of course.
Also, depending on AP settings, two devices (clients) on the same wireless network can communicate with each other. It's relayed through the AP, so it will be somewhat slower.
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yeah, Rezound don't got Wi-Fi direct.
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lol. Wow dude what a **** post. Here I am trying to help you and you be a complete ass about it my suggestion? I thought of soemthing that might work and was going to post it but since you feel like telling me to go **** myself then same to you buddy.
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Sorry for coming off like that, you just kept telling me things that were irreverent to the op, I got a little ticked. Sorry
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Not sure if it's what your looking for, but how about http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/ ?
When I tether my tablet to my phone (haven't tried other way around), it see's its WiFi as a normal WiFi, not as a mobile hotspot or anything. There's different device profiles to choose from, and I think a choice for either ad-hoc or infrastructure; and it's free
Instantly stream from phone to tablet? If that is all you need then the tablet does not need to function as AP - the phone can do it. All you need is the two units on the same network.
I'm done with this thread. Good luck.
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Reilly1812 said:
Instantly stream from phone to tablet? If that is all you need then the tablet does not need to function as AP - the phone can do it. All you need is the two units on the same network.
I'm done with this thread. Good luck.
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That's the problem, my main router only gets about 150KB/s when I stream it both connected to that. I need a router in my room, and my phone has a tether mode that acts as a router [192.168.43.1, gives DHCP IPs, etc]. The only thing, the program I used ["FTP server"] doesn't recognize I have a 192.168 IP, because it sees the regular wifi is off [and tethering is on, which I solely use as a router, not internet].
I will look into the other file manager mentioned, it sounds like it might be able to do what I'm looking for. thanks
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Not sure if it's what your looking for, but how about http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/ ?
When I tether my tablet to my phone (haven't tried other way around), it see's its WiFi as a normal WiFi, not as a mobile hotspot or anything. There's different device profiles to choose from, and I think a choice for either ad-hoc or infrastructure; and it's free
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Yeah I did try this. It fails, the log says it failed to set SSID, and a couple other things that are mandatory in order for it to work. :S thanks
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That's the problem, my main router only gets about 150KB/s when I stream it both connected to that. I need a router in my room, and my phone has a tether mode that acts as a router [192.168.43.1, gives DHCP IPs, etc]. The only thing, the program I used ["FTP server"] doesn't recognize I have a 192.168 IP, because it sees the regular wifi is off [and tethering is on, which I solely use as a router, not internet].
I will look into the other file manager mentioned, it sounds like it might be able to do what I'm looking for. thanks
Yeah I did try this. It fails, the log says it failed to set SSID, and a couple other things that are mandatory in order for it to work. :S thanks
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If all you want to do is stream movies and music, try searching Play store for a DLNA Media Server. A quick search on Google turned up many. You should be able to forget about what wireless router, IP, etc, - your phone/tablet should show up to the network as a DLNA Media Server.
The other solution with ES File Explorer will indeed work as a file access component. I use it at home to access movies on my home network.
Every day I go to my local coffee shop. When I want to connect to the net, my Nexus shows wifi points available and I choose the appropriate one for the cafe. It doesn't need a password, but it does show a webpage where you have to agree to the terms by click the Ok button.
Is there anyway to automate this, or get around this? Its such a pain in the ass! I have Tasker if that makes any difference.
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That is called a captive portal and no.
Or called a splash page. I worked for a hotel wifi company and we used devices called "nomadix." When you connect, the device gives you an IP, then sticks you in a pending stage until you click OK or Accept on the portal page. Until then, it won't let any IP based traffic through. Usually there's a timeout that they can modify. But being in a cafe, I highly doubt it. They're probably using a walmart bought wifi router with ddwrt firmware. I know starbucks has a splash page for their wifi.
Well, there is *sort* of a way around it, but not very convenient for cafes/etc. I am currently staying at a hotel that has said portal to access the WiFi network. What I have done is connected to said WiFi network with my laptop, then utilized "connectify" to re-transmit that authorized WiFi to me and my wife's devices. Basically turning my laptop into a wireless router. Another plus is that I can set my own WEP/WPA/etc protection to the retransmitted signal. So while this may not be a solution for cafes, etc - it certainly is a fantastic one for hotels!
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I believe there are a few apps in the market which can automate this for some portals, but it's basically just scraping the page and trying to guess some information to put in, etc, so it won't work 100% of the time.
I haven't used any, so no specific suggestions, but here's a few from search:
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=wifi login
i have this exact problem with the wifi in the pub i chef in. our broadband is provided by HEINEKEN beer. we also must connect then load browser window to accept terms.
the pub owner would also like it removed to allow people to auto-connect in the normal way because obviously when a customer steps outside for a ciggerette as it is illegal to smoke inside a public place in the uk now,. they would then need to keep re-connecting theyre phones/tablets...
ive managed to switch a total of 8 staff and about 25 customers to ditching ios for android there normaly at least 3 nexus 7's at any one time in my pub now :victory::victory: and our bar now also has nfc tags.
The app Wi-fi web login seems to be working for me.
Is there a way to use android for the wifi capabilities such as a dongle? Basically my laptop only sees 2.4GHz and I could buy a dual band dongle or upgrade the network card, but my note 5 is rooted, has 2.4/5/AC capability and a usb even lol so Id think itd be possible to plug phone into pc and have pc recognize it as a wifi adapter which would allow me to analyze the network with all the capability of the phone. I can nly find results of tethering which the pc recognizes as a ethernet connection which wont enable being able to see the wifi ssids that the phone can.
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Is there a way to use android for the wifi capabilities such as a dongle? Basically my laptop only sees 2.4GHz and I could buy a dual band dongle or upgrade the network card, but my note 5 is rooted, has 2.4/5/AC capability and a usb even lol so Id think itd be possible to plug phone into pc and have pc recognize it as a wifi adapter which would allow me to analyze the network with all the capability of the phone. I can nly find results of tethering which the pc recognizes as a ethernet connection which wont enable being able to see the wifi ssids that the phone can.
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Theoretically, yes.
You would need an application on your phone and one on the laptop.
The application would take over your laptop's wifi control and hand it over to the app on the phone.
Afaik, this pair oft apps does not exist.
And I think it's not worth writing them.
USB Wifi Dongles with 5Ghz cost like 20 €/£/$.
So
Effectively, no.
I figured but really, everybody has a phone if this was an option even for 5-10$ it would be a better one then having to go out or get on amazon, read reviews and purchase a dongle that may or may not satisfy. If it was able to be done on a phone more then likely there is one with anybody that gets on a pc/laptop and if it was as easy as plugging it in to use it as a wifi dongle, not tether but an actual wifi adapter itd be like the next great thing, not like that bluetooth tethering they tried but like the end to usb wifi dongles I think anyways. Besides with all the ridiculous apps that do cost money on the play store i think somethin like this would be in the top most purchased. plus idk how the licensing works but with it actually being a internet connecting app it would be hard to crack the apk as it would be required to have full contact with whatever servers authenticate the purchase. I would think anybody that worked with networking would have it as a must have for work as its one less thing to carry and should be somewhat simple plug and go plus the countless people who are someday buying a dongle there would be no need to. Cha to the ching
Kaffeetrinker said:
Theoretically, yes.
You would need an application on your phone and one on the laptop.
The application would take over your laptop's wifi control and hand it over to the app on the phone.
Afaik, this pair oft apps does not exist.
And I think it's not worth writing them.
USB Wifi Dongles with 5Ghz cost like 20 €/£/$.
So
Effectively, no.
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droseofc said:
I figured but really, everybody has a phone if this was an option even for 5-10$ it would be a better one then having to go out or get on amazon, read reviews and purchase a dongle that may or may not satisfy. If it was able to be done on a phone more then likely there is one with anybody that gets on a pc/laptop and if it was as easy as plugging it in to use it as a wifi dongle, not tether but an actual wifi adapter itd be like the next great thing, not like that bluetooth tethering they tried but like the end to usb wifi dongles I think anyways. Besides with all the ridiculous apps that do cost money on the play store i think somethin like this would be in the top most purchased. plus idk how the licensing works but with it actually being a internet connecting app it would be hard to crack the apk as it would be required to have full contact with whatever servers authenticate the purchase. I would think anybody that worked with networking would have it as a must have for work as its one less thing to carry and should be somewhat simple plug and go plus the countless people who are someday buying a dongle there would be no need to. Cha to the ching
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Nah, there'd be like 0 to 4 people on the planet who'd actually pay for that feature.
Cause from pro to noob, 99.99999% are fine with regular USB tethering or BT Tethering! If they have to change the wifo network, they don't need to change the Wifi network using the mouse. They just grab their phone. It can't be far, it's connected to the laptop, just follow the cable
Anyway, most people don't even know they can do something else with their phone besides Whatsapp, Facebook, Snapchat, taking pictures and dropping it cracking the screen
Already heard of a thing called routing tables? Just because something is connected to the internet doesn't mean it will reach a certain server. How do you think your Adblock works? Exactly like that
People who work with networking use ethernet cables. They have Ethernet plugs all over their workspace. They often don't usw wifi at all at work.
If you still think it's ka and ching, then go ahead, learning to program is always a good idea!
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Lol will I know for a fact itd be like, whoever made that app now has some change in their pocket and it goes jang a lang a lang. I unfortunately do not know the programming knowhows, though think I could learn it if I put myself to it, by looking at how some of them are written it looks pretty straight forward once you got the jist of it down, I just dont got that and it kind of overwhelms me trying to figure it out without any knowledge of it. But, you are right, at least without maybe google play promoting it or some type of advertising that would show it as being in place of a usb dongle it would probably get buried by the countless apps made each day which btw all are not great (some are ridiculous) yet they are there. I am sure root would be needed for an app like that, which would detract from the audience as well. but the need for usb dongles is nowhere near a thing of the past, in fact I'd say it will only become more of a thing to have especially for the ones that would rather get it instead of buying a entire new system. With technology today and the transition from wired to wireless it would be the last option for anybody that doesnt have wireless before they have to update a whole system so more then likely they will opt for the 20$ dongle. I do consider myself one of a kind and like harry potter special (joking) but if I really am the only person to have tried doing a wifi heatmap on a laptop that only had 2.4 ghz capabilities then either i am broker then everybody else or I am just not from this earth.With all of the things you are able to do with a phone, use it as a bootable usb to boot a system (drivedroid), foxfi tether, wbnr wifi hack) youd think with a few changes of the programming or combination of the 3 this would be something easily done. I take it your familiar with programming? It seems you are and thats in a compliment kind of way, none of this is in a disrespect or disagreement with you at all, i just am uninformed in the category, but how long approximately does it take to say program an app that would be like a screen mirror app or even simple notepad app? These days if given the choice of buying a 20$ vs anything above and both have the same end result the 20$ is going to fly off the shelf. Of course these arent hot cakes but in any given situation when paying for less is an option and getting the same thing is the result i mean it is hard to think it wouldnt become popular. Drivedroid lets you use phone as bootable usb, i have countless usbs but it is just so much more convenient using my phone as its usally in my pocket already and convenience is what takes the cake.
Kaffeetrinker said:
Nah, there'd be like 0 to 4 people on the planet who'd actually pay for that feature.
Cause from pro to noob, 99.99999% are fine with regular USB tethering or BT Tethering! If they have to change the wifo network, they don't need to change the Wifi network using the mouse. They just grab their phone. It can't be far, it's connected to the laptop, just follow the cable
Anyway, most people don't even know they can do something else with their phone besides Whatsapp, Facebook, Snapchat, taking pictures and dropping it cracking the screen
Already heard of a thing called routing tables? Just because something is connected to the internet doesn't mean it will reach a certain server. How do you think your Adblock works? Exactly like that
People who work with networking use ethernet cables. They have Ethernet plugs all over their workspace. They often don't usw wifi at all at work.
If you still think it's ka and ching, then go ahead, learning to program is always a good idea!
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droseofc said:
*if this end up looking fantastic its because I tried the increase indent option in an attempt to figure out how to paragraph on this*
Lol will I know for a fact itd be like, whoever made that app now has some change in their pocket and it goes jang a lang a lang. I unfortunately do not know the programming knowhows, though think I could learn it if I put myself to it, by looking at how some of them are written it looks pretty straight forward once you got the jist of it down, I just dont got that and it kind of overwhelms me trying to figure it out without any knowledge of it. But, you are right, at least without maybe google play promoting it or some type of advertising that would show it as being in place of a usb dongle it would probably get buried by the countless apps made each day which btw all are not great (some are ridiculous) yet they are there.
I am sure root would be needed for an app like that, which would detract from the audience as well. but the need for usb dongles is nowhere near a thing of the past, in fact I'd say it will only become more of a thing to have especially for the ones that would rather get it instead of buying a entire new system. With technology today and the transition from wired to wireless it would be the last option for anybody that doesnt have wireless before they have to update a whole system so more then likely they will opt for the 20$ dongle. I do consider myself one of a kind and like harry potter special (joking) but if I really am the only person to have tried doing a wifi heatmap on a laptop that only had 2.4 ghz capabilities then either i am broker then everybody else or I am just not from this earth.
With all of the things you are able to do with a phone, use it as a bootable usb to boot a system (drivedroid), foxfi tether, wbnr wifi hack) youd think with a few changes of the programming or combination of the 3 this would be something easily done. I take it your familiar with programming? It seems you are and thats in a compliment kind of way, none of this is in a disrespect or disagreement with you at all, i just am uninformed in the category, but how long approximately does it take to say program an app that would be like a screen mirror app or even simple notepad app? These days if given the choice of buying a 20$ vs anything above and both have the same end result the 20$ is going to fly off the shelf. Of course these arent hot cakes but in any given situation when paying for less is an option and getting the same thing is the result i mean it is hard to think it wouldnt become popular. Drivedroid lets you use phone as bootable usb, i have countless usbs but it is just so much more convenient using my phone as its usally in my pocket already and convenience is what takes the cake.
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Whoaaaa.... Sorry but too long to read...
Maybe THIS will convince you:
1. Almost any phone uses USB 2.0
2. Phone's USB Speed is limited due to the USB speed not being the manufacturer's priority (Ever been annoyed about the slow transfer speed of files to your PC?)
3. 2.4 GHz Wifi already gives you 54 to 160Bit/s.
That's a speed, you'll NEVER get through your USB connection.
Be really happy if you get 40 MBit/s...
4. There are... like no wifi routers which support 5GHz only.
5. There are no Laptops without any wifi except in a museum or in the big spare parts box in my garage.
Who'll buy it?
1. People who don't have wifi in their notebook?
No, they sit in a museum or they just use regular USB tethering.
2. People who want faster network connection?
No, cause it won't get faster.
3. People who are in an area with 5GHz wifi only?
No, 5Ghz only makes no sense due to its bad signal through walls. This just doesn't exist.
4. People with old hardware who have a broken wifi chip in their notebook and who can't afford a dongle?
They would use regular USB tethering. If they can't afford a dongle, they can't afford your app.
5. People with very few space in their pockets, to few to carry a thumb sized wifi dongle?
No, they use Bluetooth Tethering. They probably also have a wireless charging phone cause they also don't like to carry a cable.
6. People who are allergic to Wifi dongles or who are forbidden to buy them by their religion because the dongles aren't approved by their guru whereas mobile phones are?
Nooo, they just use regular USB Tethering. They live in the guru's house, they may not leave it, so no point in having an easier way to change the wifi network. Besides, the only laptop in the guru's home is his own, cause his followers may use the internet only once a week, so one notebook is enough for the whole lot. And Guru is rich enough to have a new notebook with integrated 5 GHz Wifi.
AND FINALLY: HOW OFTEN A DAY DO YOU CHANGE YOUR WIFI NETWORK?
ONCE OR TWICE
Use regular USB tethering and pick your fnjörpliging phone up to change the network, there's absolutely no need to have an app for that!
So, I had very much fun trolling you with facts! I even got to make a joke about a funny made-up religion.
I'm outta here
Well after that post it all kind of makes sense to me now. You either are not that informed about 2.4/5ghz radios, you live somewhere that it is not popular... yet. Not sure if you understand what heat mapper is referring to, its only the signal that matters not the speed but if speed was an issue you kept up on any tech news lately or hear of somethin called usb c? 10Gbps. 2.0 gets 480Mbps or 60MBps which would be plenty and would undoubtedly be better then usb tethering as it would have direct and complete use of the wifi connection.
So almost any phone USED to use usb 2.0, like almost any computer USED to dial up to connect, wondering if you might still be, (jk). Just like it always has and will tech changes and soon they will MOSTLY have usb-c or 3.1 and speed is out the window. And finally, r u familiar with play store and its contents? They have some quirky things that become instant hits (flappy) or this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.prowl.torque that you connect the phone to the cars diagnostic connection obd and has 1 million users at 4.95$ each. With your thinking all if those people would never have got that app and would use the normal regular mechanic tool to read odb errors.
And last but not least your comment was just as long as mine. And i read it, out of respect. If u want i could send you a little like 5 step process on what its all about and a song to go with it that even spells it out. all in fun and respectfully debating of course. I go to school for this stuff, not that u dont or havent but definitely was skipping the day they spoke of 2.4 and 5 and the heat mapping of each.
Which is ok, i was wondering cuz yes i am too cheap/college student to get a pc just for that 5ghz. I needed it to completely do my heatmap as the router is 2.4/5 simultaneously (prepare for that, most of them are these days wont even mention ac) but only seen 2.4. Anyways from the sounds of it you dont like to read long things which explains some things. If u do please know i say all of this in a friendly sarcastic way, with honesty behind it just definitely no disrespect more friendly joking.
Kaffeetrinker said:
Whoaaaa.... Sorry but too long to read...
Maybe THIS will convince you:
1. Almost any phone uses USB 2.0
2. Phone's USB Speed is limited due to the USB speed not being the manufacturer's priority (Ever been annoyed about the slow transfer speed of files to your PC?)
3. 2.4 GHz Wifi already gives you 54 to 160Bit/s.
That's a speed, you'll NEVER get through your USB connection.
Be really happy if you get 40 MBit/s...
4. There are... like no wifi routers which support 5GHz only.
5. There are no Laptops without any wifi except in a museum or in the big spare parts box in my garage.
Who'll buy it?
1. People who don't have wifi in their notebook?
No, they sit in a museum or they just use regular USB tethering.
2. People who want faster network connection?
No, cause it won't get faster.
3. People who are in an area with 5GHz wifi only?
No, 5Ghz only makes no sense due to its bad signal through walls. This just doesn't exist.
4. People with old hardware who have a broken wifi chip in their notebook and who can't afford a dongle?
They would use regular USB tethering. If they can't afford a dongle, they can't afford your app.
5. People with very few space in their pockets, to few to carry a thumb sized wifi dongle?
No, they use Bluetooth Tethering. They probably also have a wireless charging phone cause they also don't like to carry a cable.
6. People who are allergic to Wifi dongles or who are forbidden to buy them by their religion because the dongles aren't approved by their guru whereas mobile phones are?
Nooo, they just use regular USB Tethering. They live in the guru's house, they may not leave it, so no point in having an easier way to change the wifi network. Besides, the only laptop in the guru's home is his own, cause his followers may use the internet only once a week, so one notebook is enough for the whole lot. And Guru is rich enough to have a new notebook with integrated 5 GHz Wifi.
AND FINALLY: HOW OFTEN A DAY DO YOU CHANGE YOUR WIFI NETWORK?
ONCE OR TWICE
Use regular USB tethering and pick your fnjörpliging phone up to change the network, there's absolutely no need to have an app for that!
So, I had very much fun trolling you with facts! I even got to make a joke about a funny made-up religion.
I'm outta here
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Also the internet provider gives you the speed not the 2.4 or the 5. And more importantly the ability to see the 2.4/5 channels is what i was needing which in a setup if you have alot of people connected to wifi by splitting it with some on 2.4 and some on 5 you would have better connectivity vs everyone on the same one. If somebody wants speed and speed alone a dongle, wifi or bluetooth wont even be on their mind , they will be hooking it directly with ethernet as thats the fastest and best option there is.
Also look in this network forum like 4 down it says usb reverse tethering and has like 600,000 views. Read that description and see if you still think this would be useless. With your logic ud have to wonder y they even have a phone in the first place. But its obviously popular. Mind/openit