This will probably sound a bit dumb, but here goes... Since Bluetooth utilizes FM frequencies, is it possible with the correct app to use your Bluetooth system as an FM tuner? Basically, is there or is it possible to create a program that enable a user to pick up FM radio station broadcasts with his Bluetooth reciever, and listen to them? In that same vein, is it possible to use the built-in Bluetooth as an FM transmitter, to transmit audio streams at frequencies that can then be picked up by a car radio, or boombox? this would eliminate the need to purchase an unreliable FM dongle, or adapter cable if you wanted to hear your device's music on your car stereo.
Unit ZER0 said:
This will probably sound a bit dumb, but here goes... Since Bluetooth utilizes FM frequencies, is it possible with the correct app to use your Bluetooth system as an FM tuner? Basically, is there or is it possible to create a program that enable a user to pick up FM radio station broadcasts with his Bluetooth reciever, and listen to them? In that same vein, is it possible to use the built-in Bluetooth as an FM transmitter, to transmit audio streams at frequencies that can then be picked up by a car radio, or boombox? this would eliminate the need to purchase an unreliable FM dongle, or adapter cable if you wanted to hear your device's music on your car stereo.
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where did you hear that it utilizes fm frequencies? bluetooth operates at 2.4ghz like wi-fi (but different protocols).... when someone says that a device has a bluetooth/cellular/wi-fi radio, they dont mean it has anything to do with am or fm unless specifically said (ie; am-fm radio).. but, why would you even bother asking that question anyway? if such a thing was even remotely possible you would surely have heard about it and seen products for it all over the place, hell, a simple search on ebay would turn up thousands of devices if they existed...
Even if it were FM, the BT receiver would still require a tuner chip to bring in the different frequencies.
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Hi Everyone
I use an i-trip to connect my Ipod to my car's FM. Is there any way of connecting my XDA 11i to FM using the Wifi connection? I am thinking of a box of tricks like the itrip but instead of plugging into the headphone socket the 'box of tricks' receives the info from the XDA via wifi and transmits FM to the car radio thus negating the need for any wires from th XDA
Anyone any ideas?
Barry
fm radio are analog signals based around 87.5 to 108.0 MHz
wifi are digital signals based around 2.4Ghz
so something needs to recieve the fm signal and stream it for the wifi of the device to recieve it
dont know if such an device myself though
Not exactly...
I ran across a device on the MCM Electronics website whichwould let you connect bluetooth audio transmissions, and would transmit them on different FM stations. Plugged into the ciggarette lighter, I believe. Had a device which could plug into home stereo using A/V jacks also. Be pretty cool to be able to play mp3s in the car with no wires! I'm going to order one of each!
Is there a way to use the radio without the headset???
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Is there a way to use the radio without the headset???
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Nope, as the handsfree works as an antenna
probably no, because the radio uses the wire of the headset as an antenna.
edit: ...one minute too late... ;-)
i know. but is there no registerkey to change that so you can even work without the headset ?
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct....Category=CB077B5C-390D-4153-8EDD-44D1B2BEF716
I was thinking of getting one of these, then you can plug your HTC into any HI-fi, speakers, car radio, other headphones etc...
Yes there is a registry change but you need the lead plugged in as it has the aerial built into it.
Any way of plugging in the handsfree to work as an aerial, but route the sound to a pair of bluetooth headphones?
Thanks
(BTW what is the registry entry to allow the radio to work without the handsfree?)
My Diamond is link to PC at work, is not possible for the radio uses the wire USB ??
My radio works fine with only this guy pluged in.
this works very well with this connected up on the telephone and sound commuted to go out on internal speaker
http://www.semsons.com/2miusband3st.html and works with sync usb cable pluged in
But it is impossible that we can not avoid plugging headphones avoiding this check?
With a modified version of the "Radio" program?
as said earlier, no, there is no antenna for the phone to recieve the transmission
A hardware cannot be replaced by any kind of software...
Addicteddddd said:
as said earlier, no, there is no antenna for the phone to recieve the transmission
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I know, but my work office is in very high site and the radio signal is very strong
Radio over BT Stereo Headphones
Ok, but still it would be interesting how to change the devault sound out properties, in case of using nice BT Stereo Headphones?
People keep talking about this FM radio thing. How/what does one start to control the radio. I don't see any application (Sprint version of HTC Touch Diamond - Did those bastard disable this?)?
At my gym they only provide the audio program for the TVs there over a short rebroadcast FM station. Sorta like what some drive in theaters do. IOW to listen to the audio for the TV I must tune into 106.9 FM but I can't, for the life of me, figure out how to do that with the HTC Touch Diamond. OK I plug in their silly wired headphones and then do what?
defaria said:
People keep talking about this FM radio thing. How/what does one start to control the radio. I don't see any application (Sprint version of HTC Touch Diamond - Did those bastard disable this?)?
At my gym they only provide the audio program for the TVs there over a short rebroadcast FM station. Sorta like what some drive in theaters do. IOW to listen to the audio for the TV I must tune into 106.9 FM but I can't, for the life of me, figure out how to do that with the HTC Touch Diamond. OK I plug in their silly wired headphones and then do what?
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not different from any other FM radio with presets. from the Manual:
11.4 Using FM Radio
FM Radio allows you to listen to FM radio stations on your device. Since FM
Radio uses the provided stereo wired headset as an antenna, you must plug
in the headset first onto the earphone jack of your device before you open
the program.
To open FM Radio
Tap Start > Programs > FM Radio.
The first time this program is used, it will automatically scan for available FM
channels in your area, save them as presets, then play the first FM station
found. For information about saving favorite stations as presets, see “Save
presets.“
When you tap on the FM Radio screen, the program continues to run
in the background and allows you to continue listening to the radio while
you use other programs. To turn off the FM radio, tap on the upper right
corner of the FM Radio screen.
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Device controls used in FM Radio
Navigation
• Press Navigation left/right to search the FM band for the next lower/
higher FM channel. When the search reaches the last station, it cycles
back to the beginning of the FM band.
• Press Navigation up/down to select the previous/next available preset
station.
• Press the ENTER button to toggle mute on and off.
Volume Control
Press the VOLUME CONTROL on the side of the device to adjust the FM
Radio volume.
Save presets
Presets are favorite FM stations that you can save for easy access. You can
save up to six FM stations to the preset buttons on the main FM Radio
screen, or save up to 20 presets on the Presets screen.
To save FM stations
1. Tune to the desired FM frequency, then tap Presets.
2. On the Presets screen, tap that appears on the desired preset
number where you want to save the FM station.
You can save up to 20 preset radio stations. Radio stations that are
saved on Presets 1 to 6 can be accessed on the main FM Radio screen.
Tip Tap to remove a favorite FM station from the list.
3. When done, tap OK.
To listen to a preset FM station
Do one of the following:
• On the main FM Radio screen, tap the preset button that shows your
favorite station.
• On the Preset screen, select a preset number that shows your favorite
station, then tap Listen.
FM Radio Main Menu
Tap Menu on the FM Radio screen to access options for the FM Radio
program.
Scan & Save Automatically scan radio stations that can be picked
up by the device and save them as presets. Existing presets will be
cleared and replaced with the newly scanned radio stations. You can
have a maximum of 20 preset radio stations.
Stereo Toggles between using Stereo or Mono mode when listening
to an FM radio station.
Mute Toggles between muting and restoring the volume.
Output Select whether to use the device Speaker or Wired Headset
to listen to the radio.
Sleep Set how much time must pass before FM Radio goes into sleep
mode. The Sleep option is switched to Off every time you launch FM
Radio.
Broadcast band Sets the radio band. Select Japan if you are listening
to radio in Japan. Otherwise, select Other countries.
Exit Select to turn off FM Radio.
and so on....
RTFM! (Read The Fucking Manual)
here, i uploaded it for u:
http://rapidshare.com/files/157269673/HTC_Touch_Diamond_User_Manual_HTC_Asia_WWE.pdf
He asked about the Sprint (US, CDMA) version. Before you RTFM someone, maybe consider that *his* phone is not *your* phone? There are at least three variants of Diamond.
DrewVS said:
He asked about the Sprint (US, CDMA) version. Before you RTFM someone, maybe consider that *his* phone is not *your* phone? There are at least three variants of Diamond.
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point taken but are u sure that there are serious differences (if any) in using the FM radio or maybe you think that his (US, CDMA) version came without a manual or that in his manual there are no instructions on how to use the FM radio? i still think that this is a severe case of RTFM
ready to bet that his version of diamond has the same way to operate the FM radio.
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Ok,
but the question is still: how to get the radio working without the special cable?
I live at 1850 m, 700 m to a DVBT, 1.4 km to the next HSUPA and 1.9 km to a radio antenna and I have a verz good reciption ov everything.
Even I would accept using the cable as antenna but routing the sound to the bt headset. These small programs routing audio, I will give them a try and report in case of te FM radio.
Meanwhile, perhaps, some of the gurus can find out how to disable the nasty cable check please...
Thanx!
NODeeJay said:
Ok,
but the question is still: how to get the radio working without the special cable?
I live at 1850 m, 700 m to a DVBT, 1.4 km to the next HSUPA and 1.9 km to a radio antenna and I have a verz good reciption ov everything.
Even I would accept using the cable as antenna but routing the sound to the bt headset. These small programs routing audio, I will give them a try and report in case of te FM radio.
Meanwhile, perhaps, some of the gurus can find out how to disable the nasty cable check please...
Thanx!
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i m afraid that is a hardware trick so no soft or registry tweak can change it.
maybe if you have an old usb cable, cut the cable and use only the usb plug you'll be able to trick the device in "thinking" that the antenna is in place.
later
nope, no go...i tried and plugged in a plug and it still asking for his headset. maybe some circuit is checking if the headset is there.
Hello,
Is there anyone that now if there is a program to X1 or any mobile that makes the mobile phone to an FM-transmitter?
Since there alot of technology like GPS, RDS cant that be done? Im very bad at this stuff and is very impressed by the programming persons that makes this stuff possible!!!!
Best regards John
i think its not possible cause it needs other hardware in the phone
Bluetooth is technically a form of FM radio, but I think you'd need some very advanced custom firmware to transmit analogue FM. In fact, some Bluettoth chips are also FM receivers. It's very low powered too, so you'd only get a few metres range from a transmitter. The chances of it being implemented seem very small.
But if you just want to transmit to your stereo, there are plenty of mini-jack to FM radio transmitters. They work best if there is line of sight between the transmitter and receiver.
... the Glofiish V900 has this function
the x1 doesnt have it, and i dont think it will. You can however search for an FM transmitter that will fit in the 3.5mm jack. these are sold in a lot of places and searching google yielded a lot of results. this is probably your best bet.
http://www.google.com/search?q=3.5m...-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1
good day =)
transmitter == send
receiver == receive
transceiver == send and receiver
fm radios only have receivers
wifi/bluetooth are transceivers but only on 2.4Ghz Digtal signals using a spc. and only that protocol (it's how the hardware is made)
fm is from about from about 87.5 to 108.0 MHz analog
but this product
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=166893
will transmit any audio from any device which can send analog audio
to a 3.5mm minijack
to the fm band one set it to
i have one it works ok not HD audio quality of cause but works
Is there a way to enable the FM transmit function or reroute the media sound through the Handset Profile in Bluetooth ?
I know you can do it with hardware but then the wires look like an Octupus
Hello to everybody,
I'm looking for a smartwatch that could be paired with a couple of bluetooth earphones, acting as music player and that could works without a phone.
I found a lot of cheap device that has a TF (microsd) slot and that could be paired with bluetooth earphones, and this is good.
But I would like to have also Radio FM and I was unable to find a device that could work with bluetooth earphones because all the devices I found with radio FM needs to have earphones jack inserted because they act as antenna.
So I started looking for a device that could run app without a phone, something like "tune in radio", that streams music via data connection, but I'm not sure if someone has already developed something similar, I've seen that Samsung has created the Gear S that has a 3G and wifi connection but I'm not sure of what are its capabilities, if it could work alone (without a phone) for the task I need.
Does anybody knows if there's something that could fit my needs? (or mp3 stand alone with radio FM via bluetooth or mp3 with undependent streaming radio app)
If I could throw a bone...
I carry an iPod Nano 6G. Relatively cheap, doesn't have Bluetooth, but it has been my goto for music. I paid $10 for a stainless steel band, it has a week battery life typically, and its just a good device overall. If you're willing to compromise Bluetooth, it can't break the bank.
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Thank you, but I can't give up bluetooth, Nano was one of my first choice but it doesn't fit some of my requirements.
Probably some other little device like this small phone could be good. Does anybody knows it?
Basically any MTK6260 based smartwatch will do.
I listen to music at work straight from my GT08. Either via bt heaphones or via the sound system since it has a bluetooth receiver.
Yes but it also works with fm radio ?
All the reseller I contacted told me that in order to listen fm radio I have to plug earphones into the 3.5mm hole because earphones works as antenna.
Did you try to do it without
well, best I can think of is an actual headphone with built-in FM radio, kind of like the Sony MW1 - or if you prefer, there's sport-headphones with all kinds of options (SD card, FM radio, etc.) which don't require any kind of additional device/bluetooth/etc. and are pretty much just headphones with a wire between the two. Example: Sport Wireless+ by Jabra has FM radio.
problem is, that for FM radio you will always require SOME kind of antenna - if I remember correctly it has something to do with the wavelength of FM and needing a certain minimum antenna length to pick up the signal. In cases with no cable (e.g. big headphones (over-ear)), the antenna is built into the frame, while in-ear headphones require some kind of cable/wire (even if it's the one connecting the two headphones) to function as antenna.
I agree with you but I just received a pair of Plantronics beatfit bluetooth earphones, that are superbs in terms of quality, but that lack the embedded radio FM as Jabra ones!
About the antenna, it's strange, because I think that if it's possible to integrate it inside a couple of bluetooth earphones it should be possible to do the same also in an mp3 player or in a smartwatch, don't you think?
Caio said:
I agree with you but I just received a pair of Plantronics beatfit bluetooth earphones, that are superbs in terms of quality, but that lack the embedded radio FM as Jabra ones!
About the antenna, it's strange, because I think that if it's possible to integrate it inside a couple of bluetooth earphones it should be possible to do the same also in an mp3 player or in a smartwatch, don't you think?
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Problem is basically that the shorter the antenna (compared to the actual wavelength) the worse the signal (more or less, google "FM antenna length" - or anything similar - for the specifics involved). And considering that FM has MUCH larger wavelength than any other frequency used in a phone (iirc BT is more or less 12cm, FM is 3m), having an antenna small enough to fit in a watch or phone COULD work, but the signal would be really bad - so you'd have to make the receiver REALLY sensitive and probably use quite a bit of power.
Kinda like the difference between turning on a world clock radio with & without extending the antenna - it'll "work" with the antenna collapsed (and maybe even pick up a station or two if you're lucky), but it'll work much better with the antenna extended.
FYI: The larger the wavelength (and thus lower the frequency), the further the signal travels & less interference from objects in between - reason why in the middle of nowhere between trees and mountains you'll pick up an AM (approx. 1kHz, 100+m wavelength) signal much better than an FM signal (approx. 98kHz, 3m wavelength). Same reason as to why the lower mobile bands (700-800) are more suited for large area coverage than teh higher frequency ones (2100, etc.).
NOTE: You'll have to forgive me for any (probable) errors in specific numbers - it's been a LOT of years since I last used/checked them
addendum...
Ok, apparently a full-length set of headphones (to some extent) isn't even needed nowadays - basically phone makers being lazy. Check this thread over @ androidcentral.com about someone getting the radio (not through BT though) working by sticking a cut-off 3.5mm jack stub (of an old pair of headphones).
No test on how WELL it receives various stations, but at least something is picked up... now all you need to do is modify the ROM so it'll allow BT broadcast even with a 3.5mm jack plugged in :silly:
Or maybe (as suggested in the thread), plugging in a standalone BT transmitter into teh 3.5mm jack?