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especially from a g1 user's perspective, for me it seems the slide has noticably worse 3g reception; anyone else notice the same?
Yes it does, I'm sure t-mobile will send out radio firmware updates as they did for the g1. I know the last one gave me a big boost. For now you can choose for it to use 3g only and you'll see a lot less dropping to edge, I have mine set like this and sometimes have very low signal but haven't found a spot yet where it was completely dead.
Hmm, that's weird. I used to have the G1 and as soon as I clapped my hand due to my phone getting atleast 1bar of 3G signal it would drop to E. Which meant me not clapping anymore. But with this phone I am clapping once again.
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Yes it does, I'm sure t-mobile will send out radio firmware updates as they did for the g1. I know the last one gave me a big boost. For now you can choose for it to use 3g only and you'll see a lot less dropping to edge, I have mine set like this and sometimes have very low signal but haven't found a spot yet where it was completely dead.
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as I understood the g1 radio update mainly made the phone hold onto a weaker 3g signal longer rather than any substantial improvement in overall reception; where I work I get no signal at all if I lock 3g only whereas with my g1 I had nearly 100% 3g uptime, the g1 might not have been state of the art but it's cell radio sure was pretty impressive compared to every other phone I've owned
i get better reception than what i did with my mytouch 3g and way better uplaod and download speeds to
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Hmm, that's weird. I used to have the G1 and as soon as I clapped my hand due to my phone getting atleast 1bar of 3G signal it would drop to E. Which meant me not clapping anymore. But with this phone I am clapping once again.
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I second this, my G1 gets crappy 3G reception even on the most recent radio. I'm picking up my MT3GS tomorrow.
My G1 was next to my old Razr in having near perfect signal. My slide drops out of 3G quite often, even at my house sitting right next to my wife with my old G1 that is still on 3G.
I've noticed this. It seems to have horrible horrible 3g reception. I was in a tiny guard shack, maybe 10'x10', walls were thin, and most of the side walls were made of glass patio doors. Inside the shack I would get E all the time, I could literally step 6" outside of the shack, right on the curb, and I'd get 4 bars of 3G.
in my building i get 3g in the elevator, must be practically living right under a tower!!
my AT&T phones used to drop the signal as soon as the elevator doors closed.
Upstate NY here and I'm getting the in/out 3G with Tmo, wish they would get their 3G working right before even trying to consider releasing 4G (as I was told by a rep)
My phone can drop in and out of 3G and 2G. If u put the phone on wcdma only it doesn't happen. Mine will hold 3G all day long without a problem and it downstairs burn as much battery either.
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a few question:
Does anyone know when the radio update will be available?
How does one go about getting the radio update?
Will the radio update work on a rooted phone?
Thanks.
Really??
Are you kidding me??!! I am so surprised (and disappointed) to read this.
First, the Nexus One, then the HD2 (which I owned), and now the MyTouch Slide?? I think I even heard that the Incredible having these issues.
What is it with HTC phones losing reception?
It's one of the reasons (but not the only one) I returned the HD2. I've been strongly considering the MyTouch Slide, but after hearing this, I have to scratch it off the list until/if/when they fix it.
For those who already own this phone, I sincerely hope they fix it for you.
I've noticed weaker 3G speeds also while at work. I've just activated wcdma only it's a lot better now, but I'm at home right now, so I'll post an update tomorrow to see of it is better at work
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I've noticed it really sucks. I'm sitting in my kitchen right now, where I always had a strong 3G signal on my G1, yet now I don't have one. If Tmobile doesn't fix this soon, I'm considering canceling my contract and going elsewhere.
Ive been having issues for the past 2 months or so (dating back to the G1 btw) where Id be on 3G with full service surfing the internet then everything would stop loading, Id drop down to GPRS and it would stay like that for a few minutes. Then 3G would pick back up again.
Ive been having that issue ever since they started rolling out HSPA+. The TMO reps keep saying that it shouldnt happen, but it is. And not just on my phone. My brothers G1 and now his slide did the same thing and my friends MT3G did it as well.
And this issue isnt in a localized area. Its happening all over VA. Im a roving technician and I get this issue wherever 3G is. If the area only offers Edge, I dont have any issues. When the 3G holds though, its decently quick (check signature).
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Upstate NY here and I'm getting the in/out 3G with Tmo, wish they would get their 3G working right before even trying to consider releasing 4G (as I was told by a rep)
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Tmobile isn't releasing 4g, is expanding its HSPA+ network, which is technically faster than 4g. Be careful when you ask the reps anything. I have had reps tell me things that I know for a fact weren't true but majority of them don't know any better.
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It's one of the reasons (but not the only one) I returned the HD2. I've been strongly considering the MyTouch Slide, but after hearing this, I have to scratch it off the list until/if/when they fix it.
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Take what you read here with a grain if salt. Yes some people experience some 3g coverage issues but that doesn't affect everyone and there are a lot of factors to consider. Nonetheless, if you scratch this phone off your list, you'd be missing out on a great device.
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forgot about this thread... turns out due to some strange coincidence at the time I first bought my slide the cell tower where I worked went on the fritz and the tech people weren't updated on it yet. I have 3g again at work but still notice that I drop to edge a bit more often than with my old g1... and the data works absolutely horridly on edge with latency issues and timeouts that the g1 never did. oh well, still a solid device although I have my upgrade credit saved for whatever emerald/vision/vanguard madness TMO has planned for this fall
Not so much of a Samsung vibrant issue, I don't think at least, but hear me out.
Been with Tmobile for 6 years now. Always had a crappy flip phone, up until my touch 3g came out. I knew that back then Tmobile 3g coverage and speeds were lacking to say the least, they joined the game too late. Anyways, few months after that, things began getting way better. Speeds doubling, coverage getting better, I began to like it. Then, got me a nexus one, and I loved how much better Tmobile has got. I was getting amazing speeds with great coverage, 3g everywhere I went... here in Aurora, Tmobile is testing faster that other carriers via 3g, beats sprint by a long shot.
But lately... I am just wanting to sell my phone and switch carriers. My vibrant gets great speeds at home still, sometimes in the 599kbps range though, but usually over 1.2mbps. But, it constantly switches to edge, causing my data to be useless. Pages would halt, won't even load a thing until 3g is back. Coverage has gotten way worse too, half the places I go, 3g just always times out... at my girlfriends place, it literally switches to edge 1 minute after you begin using it, same with her my touch slide.
So, is there anything I could do? I understand that all this can be a result of a higher network load and towers in my area not being able.to handle it, but I really do love my phone, and Tmobile plans, anything?
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Probably not what you want to hear, but I get crap 3G if at all in my apartment, and sometimes even drop EDGE, so I just always use wi-fi at home. Tmo's 3g is decent but not amazing in my neighborhood, but I think it's the construction of the building that kills it when I'm at home. Other than that, I don't know of anything you can do.
Vibrant just can't hold onto a 3G signal.
You know, I been saying this from day one, but everyone is so consumed over the GPS issue.
I have several T-mobile smartphones. They all get 3G in my home, except the vibrant is always on edge.
Simply put, it's the phone, not T-mobile. Vibrant can not hold onto a 3G signal, instead it drops down to Edge when the signal is not strong enough for 3G. Other phones will hold onto 3G.
I've switched to a new sim card, so thats not the issue either. It's the phone.
Hopefully They fix this issue also when they roll out the GPS fix.
Yes, it's the Vibrant.
3G stayed locked on my HD2, unless the signal really was low. The Vibrant switches to Edge, even with 4 bars of 3G.
This needs to be addressed ASAP.
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Yes, it's the Vibrant.
3G stayed locked on my HD2, unless the signal really was low. The Vibrant switches to Edge, even with 4 bars of 3G.
This needs to be addressed ASAP.
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Mine don't. It'll hold on 3g with no bars , my phone hates edge...
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Mine don't. It'll hold on 3g with no bars , my phone hates edge...
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Yeah, I've seen that too on my phone. I have seen the phone go to Edge when it had 4 bars of 3G, and then I have seen it stay on 2 bars of 3G. Strange, it seems like the network would be the cause, but it is definitely the phone, because again, my HD2 did not perform this way.
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You know, I been saying this from day one, but everyone is so consumed over the GPS issue.
I have several T-mobile smartphones. They all get 3G in my home, except the vibrant is always on edge.
Simply put, it's the phone, not T-mobile. Vibrant can not hold onto a 3G signal, instead it drops down to Edge when the signal is not strong enough for 3G. Other phones will hold onto 3G.
I've switched to a new sim card, so thats not the issue either. It's the phone.
Hopefully They fix this issue also when they roll out the GPS fix.
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You know, I thought that it could he the phone, but Then my girlfriend got my touch slide just few days after I sold my nexus one, and she has been having identical issues as I. I figured that since her slide is the same way, it couldn't have been the phone. You're right though it seems, my nexus one has always been solid, it just started happening when I got my vibrant. I just figured that maybe with Tmobile finally getting a nice smart phone and getting busier it was the carrier, not the phone. It is kind of annoying, at my house, it always cycles between no bars and 4 bars, with no bars, my 3g speeds are high too, 1.5mbps down and 500-700up
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My MT3G gets the same coverage at my apartment and my wifes MT3G gets the same coverage on the road as my Vibrant. Does that mean it's not the carrier, or the phone but it's Android?
If you don't like it return it, get a different carrier, and more than likely your problems will be solved.
Its T-Mobile. My g1 had the same issues. Switching between e and 3g, and lately I've just been staying on e because it saves the battery. T-Mobile has a **** network and I live in southern California, so its not like I'm in some podunk town. Web pages shouldn't be not loading and just hanging forever. Apps shouldn't just get stuck on refreshing. Like I said this happened all the time on my g1. Their network blows.
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I'm pretty sure it's the phone
I magically drift from 5 bars 3g in my house to like 1-2 bars edge just letting it sit on my desk
I don't think it's T-Mo, I live very near a tower and the wife's phone has no issue with it
If you're having problems with data sessions hanging for too long because the phone is cycling back and forth between 3G and EDGE you should lock the phone on 3G.
I have barely noticed any difference with my CLIQ and Vibrant. The only problem I do notice is when I'm at the edge of the 3G network and the phone wants to hold onto the weak, 2 mile away 3G signal when there is an EDGE tower within 1 mile away. My CLIQ simply switched to EDGE until 3G was deemed good enough.
You can solve this by either locking on 3G (not recommended if 3G is extremely poor) or locking it on EDGE if you're in a bad area for 3G.
Also I don't trust the speedtest.net app on the Vibrant. There is a serious problem with it, it's very inconsistent and inaccurate some of the time. Samsung will be pushing out the GPS fix bundled with other fixes and that could include a connectivity enhancement. One problem I know of for sure is that this phone reads WAY too low for it's received signal strength and it could be performing as such for others (underestimating 3G network coverage and switching to EDGE to maintain a signal)
It is the phone in as much as the Vibrant is just more accurately and quickly detecting the changes in signal strength. All phones experience this but many manufactures calibrate things differently so that users perceive a better signal when in fact the signal strength deviates greatly on all phones from all carriers.
There are many variables that effect signal strength including things around your home that can interfere. There are many things i like about T-Mobile and many i do not but right now and for a while they do have the fastest network. They do not have the best coverage in the most areas that title goes to verizon.
See if you have a friend on another network who can come to your place and you can compare actual call quality and data speeds. I suspect they will all work about the same.
Weird, I've been having the exact opposite situation, LOVE my N1 but it would drop to G in one spot on my way to work and not reconnect to 3G unless taken to Airplane mode or restarted, I would also completely loose all signal in some stores in town. So far the Vibrant hasn't done that and I've even managed to have a signal in places I didn't before
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Weird, I've been having the exact opposite situation, LOVE my N1 but it would drop to G in one spot on my way to work and not reconnect to 3G unless taken to Airplane mode or restarted, I would also completely loose all signal in some stores in town. So far the Vibrant hasn't done that and I've even managed to have a signal in places I didn't before
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This is the same as me. My n1 next to my vibrant the v will be on 3g and the n1 on edge. N1 had this switching to edge issue so funny people with the n1 aren't mentioning it... nexus one 3g issie
I have an N1 that usually shows 1 or 2 more bars of 3G than the Vibrant does in the same locations. However my Vibrant seems to hang on to 3G with more tenacity than the N1. Also the N1 shows more bars of E as a general rule then the Vibrant does, but as mentioned the N1 shifts to E much more frequently. I suspect that it is the phone and not the carrier.
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Weird, I've been having the exact opposite situation, LOVE my N1 but it would drop to G in one spot on my way to work and not reconnect to 3G unless taken to Airplane mode or restarted, I would also completely loose all signal in some stores in town. So far the Vibrant hasn't done that and I've even managed to have a signal in places I didn't before
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N1 was way worse than vibrant to me for several reasons. Just like mt3g, it would constantly fail to send texts, so I'd either have to wait 5 minutes and try again, or restart. Overall, 3g is a little more concistent on the vibrant, just switching to edge a lot. On N1 I literally would get an up arrow on 3g icon stuck and data would be stuck as well, I would reboot it 2-3 times per my 3 hours of streaming Pandora...
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Greetings to all from a new HD2 owner. After retiring my Fuze some time ago and going with a Tilt2, I've now retired THAT puppy and decided to go with this lovely new T-Mobile HD2. Now I've got a problem.
I recently had to move to a new home. My old home had awesome coverage for every carrier in the Southeastern US. My new one...not so much. AT&T coverage sucks so badly my Tilt2 is almost unusable. T-Mobile coverage is only marginally better. I've waited the requisite 40 days to unlock my HD2 with T-Mobile so now I can use either carrier in my HD2.
Since the office pays for my phone & accessories, I sprung for AT&T's 3G Microcell. It's a decent device and works great with my Tilt2. I know T-Mobile's 3G uses a different band than AT&T's 3G, but I hoped the Microcell would still help the HD2. As many of you might guess, I was wrong; it apparently works ONLY with the AT&T 3G bands. T-Mobile HD2 is out of luck and T-Mobile doesn't offer a microcell. I had hoped the HD2 might have superior reception by virtue of better hardware but that also doesn't appear to be the case.
So now what? My Tilt2 is great to use in the house with the Microcell but calls don't transfer in or out worth a darn. I have to be well out of my neighborhood before I get a decent AT&T signal. T-Mobile works good about 25% of the time, marginal around 50% of the time, and worthless the remaining 25% of the time. The HD2 is an incredibly awesome phone and I really don't want to go back to my Tilt2. And I don't want to get a land line if I can help it because it'll get very little usage.
What about VoIP clients using my home WiFi? Anybody got any good suggestions? It can't be anything expensive or I'd just pay to get a land line instead.
Last item: my office has me on a sweet unlimited/unlimited/unlimited plan with AT&T that doesn't cost me a dime. I'd really like to stick with AT&T as my carrier if I can, but the poor coverage at my home and lack of Microcell with the HD2 is a serious problem. T-Mobile coverage throughout Atlanta is OK but I've noted it's nowhere near as good as AT&T. I could deal with WiFi VoIP if there was a cost effective option.
PLEASE HELP!
If youve ever used Skype before it works as a great VOIP option on the Hd2.
Ive never had a problem with the Skype app on my Hd2. People hear me clearly, you can even use it on 3g in a pinch, and you can sign up for a Skype unlimited plan for $3/mo. The only thing is that Skype stopped having the application download on their website due to their Verizon android deal but you can easily google "Skype Windows Mobile Cab" and you will find it like I did.
I'd look for a telestra australian hd2 to purchase. It works on at+t 3g, and would fix both your problems.
I have had my G2 purchased off contract for 3 days now and other than the hinge issue and the 4g internal issue I find that my device just does not want to hold a signal other than E or G. What little time it spends on H is a small percentage of operation time. In the exact same location and time my Vibrant will hold 3 G at two bars and My Nexus One also at 1 or 2 bars the G2 stays on E at 3 or 4 bars or less and when I attempt to dl something it either hangs and goes to G or stays on E and I get the "trouble connecting with server try again and downland unsuccessful. This is the worst reception I have ever had on a phone in this same exact location. I think the G2 is a wonderful phone having the potential to be a super phone. I am hoping that this is just a defect with this unit and I have arranged to have a replacement. Anyone else having this issue?
may be a defect.. I get the same amount of 3G bars that I got on my Blackberry 9700 which is usually around full the areas I frequent.
To the OP I get the same exact problem. Unable to connect to Market even on Edge.
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I spoke with a TMO rep who stated it's a known issue with their network, only effecting 10% of users. I don't believe them.
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I spoke with a TMO rep who stated it's a known issue with their network, only effecting 10% of users. I don't believe them.
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I got off of the phone with a Rep from T Mobile and they claimed they had to change my web plan to suit the G2. They claimed different connections.They did give it to me at the same price as before but they also claimed it would completely change what has been happening to the device and my other phones(Vibrant and Nexus One) would see an improvement as well. So far after about 5 hours no change whatsoever except for slightly poorer reception. I am beginning to wonder if this G2 is star crossed and was not ready for prime time. I am starting to doubt anything TMobile says at this point.
i get poor reception unless im completely out in the open. i get no reception at all in house vs my iphone 2g, which got solid reception.
I get little to no reception in my basement, whereas with my BB 8900 the reception was poorer but still workable. At least the data works over Wifi.
getting the same problem with both of the G2`s i purchased data service drops and then comes back but thats been happening for about a month even on my touch pro 2
Happened to me also
My first G2 would randomly go from full bars to absolutely no service at all and I would have to turn it off and on to get service again. Since my vibrant wasn't having and problems like that I went and exchanged it for another G2. I haven't dropped signal but I frequently go from full bars 3g to edge or g and back and my data connection seems to hang every once and a while
I have great reception. Just a good as any other device I have had.
I got a replacement G2 yesterday afternoon and it is worse than the first one. The reception or I should say lack of reception is ludicrous. This is after T Mobile supposedly put me on a different connection type (whatever that is ) they could not explain it but did not increase my bill. The radio reception is much worse. The hinges are much looser than the first one and overall I am not a happy camper with this device. I go from 3 bars of H immediately to G than to 2 bars E and then no signal. It just fluctuates. Connecting to market is about a ten or 20 minute affair if it actually finally does connect. Downloading is sporadic at best. Phone has great potential IMO but it is flawed as released.
I get full bars of (H) a majority of the places I am. I'm out in jersey.
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I'm having the opposite issue as most; my cell connection is solid, but as soon as I hold the phone in landscape mode (or press my palm along the 'top' in portrait mode) I lose wifi connectivity instantly. Wifi Analyzer shows between a 20 and 30 dBa drop with either a G or N AP... apparently enough to go from four bars to zero, when I'm standing ten feet from my AP, and even more if I'm in the next room. I've tried the same thing with my G1, and I get at most a 5 dBa drop no matter which way I hold it.
Anyone else having this issue? TMo said that I was the first to call in with it, and to try returning/exchanging the phone under the 'buyer's remorse' period.
...I'll have to find another store though; the PFY manager at my local couldn't seem to understand why I would want to use wifi when I get solid HSPA+ signal, and insisted on redirecting me to the TMo Support phone number. He also seemed to be under the impression that wifi was slower than HSPA. Which might be true, if I didn't pay for a 28mbit connection at home. Or hadn't already hit the TMo 10GB/mo throttle cap.. which drops the data connection speed to 50kbps maximum. With no alternate 'truly unlimited' plan or way to buy even another 10GB.
I have had nothing but "H" yes i am in Boston, yes, yes.
Going to Maine this weekend, will let you know what it does.
H for Hysterically Hyperspeed
Add me to the list because I'm experiencing the same problems where I will be 3 or 4 bars into H and it'll drop down to to G and then back up to E, just sitting there on the desk. I'm on my 3rd G2 and they've all been like this. I was starting to think it's the network then I remembered my N900 was 100% solid 3-3.5G in my house although it did fluctuate quite a bit in between the two.
Fresno, CA G2 very poor data connections though hspa+
Very bad speeds in Fresno, CA that is HSPA+. Usually less than 1Mb down. Often see less than 500k. At a TMobile store with "a cell tower across the street pointing right at us" my G2 and the stores G2 demo phone only got a 3mb down.
I also see a weird pattern of less than 300k down with above 1.2M up often. There is a YouTube video showed some similar Speedtest.net hi/lo combo results called:
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same issue
i am having the same issue and i am bout 20 miles north of charlotte nc there has to be a problem with the antenna or something but who knows.
Atlant, Signal much better with G2 than with Vibrant. Thats about all I can say about it.
Mines is great if im not @ home. Dl are fast and full 4 bars. But we moved to another house which the signal sucks bad. I normaly get 1bar and edge but hell the g1 did the samething. So I dont see a probelm with the phone just tmobile network
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Add me to the list because I'm experiencing the same problems where I will be 3 or 4 bars into H and it'll drop down to to G and then back up to E, just sitting there on the desk. I'm on my 3rd G2 and they've all been like this. I was starting to think it's the network then I remembered my N900 was 100% solid 3-3.5G in my house although it did fluctuate quite a bit in between the two.
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Same here. About to take this bad boy back
when I am at work or around outside at my work I cannot connect to the 4G network. No wireless is around, so 4G is on. I try to browse a site like this one, nothing happens. it just loads and never gets to the next page.
yet I pick up my phone right now and it instantly works using browser.
Most likely the room operator try another sim card and operator
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what does that mean?
I was able to get 4G at work fine today, watched youtube.
is my phone defect? why would internet get stuck loading?
4G is still a new system. It's buggy and the signal is awkward. You're fine in one spot but move two steps to the left and you won't have it anymore. Just gotta hope that where you're standing has reception.
I don't actually understand how you get internet at all if it's not wireless. I suppose I could wikipedia that.
anyway, can I go down to 3G or 2G if I am not getting internet on 4G?
Yea, just turn off the 4g option. You'll go to 3g.
I bet it's verzion the most, "Verizon Wireless has the nation’s fastest, most reliable 4G network". It's starting too make me a bit mad, but any way I hope turning the 4g off works for you.
I have been geting the same crap so yea.
not Verizon it's Rogers. I live in Canada currently.
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Is it clear
Rogers will not work everywhere in canada. It has verrrry low coverage.
Sorry
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I am almost always in 4G areas with Verizon, Fayetteville and Charlotte, NC, and Charleston, SC. The speeds are generally pretty good (varies between 14 Mbps to 6, starting to trend lower more consistently with more customers hopping on). I will generally lose signal on the lower floor of any multi-story building. But there seem to be noticeable outages, both from my phone (Samsung Droid Charge) and from the network.
I can generally tell which one it is by restarting my phone, so that may be a good way to diagnose whether the outages you're experiencing are hardware or network based. I can vouch for the fact that 4G coverage in Fayetteville has almost daily down times that vary from about 5-10 minutes.
Wow I thought 4G freezing was just a SideKick 4G problem.
My fix is to just turn mobile data off then back on.
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