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wave secure

hi everyone
loving the site, really some good stuff on here. i'm gutted i missed out on the wavesecure beta by two days. i downloaded it off the web when it was still in beta but installed it off android market first forgetting that the beta had ended.
if i had installed the saved pc version would that have worked? and if so is there a way of wiping it completely off the phone (if i uninstall it and reinstall it remembers that i've installed it previously)
otherwise, i think i'll just have to pay the subscription, just gutted i missed out by two days . . .

manks said:
hi everyone
loving the site, really some good stuff on here. i'm gutted i missed out on the wavesecure beta by two days. i downloaded it off the web when it was still in beta but installed it off android market first forgetting that the beta had ended.
if i had installed the saved pc version would that have worked? and if so is there a way of wiping it completely off the phone (if i uninstall it and reinstall it remembers that i've installed it previously)
otherwise, i think i'll just have to pay the subscription, just gutted i missed out by two days . . .
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even with the beta package installed, the start date for your account would be timestamped after the free window had expired.
Someone has to pay them for such a great service...thanks for stepping up

yeh thought as much, ah well! Cheers.

manks said:
yeh thought as much, ah well! Cheers.
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try this instead
not tried it. it might be what you are looking for.
http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/itag...-in-features-functions-to-recover-lost-phones

Garbage app. Can be removed by anyone knowing about these forums. Even their new addon was gone from my phone in less that a minute this morning. Save your money.

Why is it garbage? Is there a free/better alternative?

jbaldwinroberts said:
Why is it garbage? Is there a free/better alternative?
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He's calling it garbage because anyone with a little know how can just uninstall the app, rendering it useless.
Programs like Wave Secure are great; but they need to be uninstallable.

but most would be thieves wouldn't have the know how, plus the phone can be locked as soon as u can get to the internet.
unless u mean it can be uninstalled once the phone is locked, hard reset maybe?
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jbaldwinroberts said:
but most would be thieves wouldn't have the know how, plus the phone can be locked as soon as u can get to the internet.
unless u mean it can be uninstalled once the phone is locked, hard reset maybe?
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Most mobile phone thieves wouldn't have a clue how to uninstall it or do a hard reset, but they DO know enough to turn it off right away, and LEAVE it off until they've sold it on.
The buyer almost certainly WILL know what to do to disable such security measures. The only way to truly prevent it, is for the program to be in ROM, so it can't be disabled. You may as well just call your operator and get the IMEI disabled.

Lost multitasking?

So recently I've lost the ability to multitask, specifically in the way I could jump around from open app to open app and have them still be open as opposed to "restoring" their last state.
It's really annoying and feels alot like an iPhone. If I'm surfing a website or two and go to the text messaging program it's a black screen as if the program had just opened for the first time.
Then if I go back to my browser, all my tabs will "restore" back which is essentially like reloading them all from scratch whereas before I could jump back forth to between the programs and pick right back from where I was without waiting for some "restoring" nonsense.
Does anyone know how to fix this? I've tried different settings in autokiller but that didnt help either
Thanks in advance

So are you using a task killer? Try uninstalling it, soft reset, and try it.

iviyth0s said:
I've tried different settings in autokiller but that didnt help either
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I was going to say try a more lenient AutoKiller setting but if that's not cutting it, I don't know what would

derekwilkinson said:
So are you using a task killer? Try uninstalling it, soft reset, and try it.
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I guess I could uninstall autokiller but I never used it until this problem started happening so idk what good it'd do. But I suppose it is worth a try!

Flashing worked, well I changed roms anyway but I'm sure reflashing would have worked too!
Now I get to enjoy Froyo

Android system/HTC Checkin using over 90% CPU

The HTC Checkin service is talked about quite a lot, as lots of people seem to have issues with it running all the time, and sometimes twice. No-one seems to know what to do with it though.
My personal experience of it is that it takes over 90% of my CPU and I need to restart Android as I can't actually kill it. (If it does close then it's starting again straight away.)
I'm currently using Mdeejay FroYo HD v3.7 and this is the only problem I have with it (other than the obvious camera issue).
Does anyone have any advice on how I can kill this app/service and stop it restarting? I'd ideally like it removed from my phone unless it's really, really important.

johncmolyneux said:
The HTC Checkin service is talked about quite a lot, as lots of people seem to have issues with it running all the time, and sometimes twice. No-one seems to know what to do with it though.
My personal experience of it is that it takes over 90% of my CPU and I need to restart Android as I can't actually kill it. (If it does close then it's starting again straight away.)
I'm currently using Mdeejay FroYo HD v3.7 and this is the only problem I have with it (other than the obvious camera issue).
Does anyone have any advice on how I can kill this app/service and stop it restarting? I'd ideally like it removed from my phone unless it's really, really important.
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You can try using Titanium Backup to freeze it. If everything works without it then you can use it to uninstall it completely.

hastarin said:
You can try using Titanium Backup to freeze it. If everything works without it then you can use it to uninstall it completely.
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Good plan - hadn't thought of that. I'll give it a go.
Cheers mate

running high as well
johncmolyneux said:
Good plan - hadn't thought of that. I'll give it a go.
Cheers mate
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how did it work out for you? process smd_tty is now taking up 90% for me. just curious. thanks.

I used the freeze option in Titanium,as suggested, and it didn't have any detrimental effects, so I removed it and have not had any side effects. I'd say try the same and see how you get on.
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what "freeze" option? i only see the ability to back up programs... Titanium had a taskmanager-like feature? Can you tell me where i can find thid feature? thanks.

steve austin said:
what "freeze" option? i only see the ability to back up programs... Titanium had a taskmanager-like feature? Can you tell me where i can find thid feature? thanks.
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It's only available in the paid version, but I think you can still see it in the free one.
Bring up the app list by clicking on "Backup/Restore" and then click an application. There's a freeze option in there.

i can't see the process smd_tty as an app or process in titanium. no listing for it.

It may be running as part of some other process then. Without knowing what it actually does I don't know what you could do about it.

thanks. that is what i thought. I take it that you are happy with your fix? ar you still getting the high cpu burn now? is the check in service virtually useless then?

How Do I Get Rid Of Sprint Voice Mail - It Just Won't Go

Yesterday I got the mandatory Sprint Voice to text update. This really upset me as the main reason I rooted my phone was to get rid of the bloat ware. So now I have Sprint nagware to deal with. So today I installed and set up the Google Voice Mail program and it works really nice. So I decided to delete/uninstall the Sprint Voice Mail Program. I used Titanium back up and I deleted the program. Everything still works well so I figured it was gone and that was that. Later I looked in my app drawer and was surprised to see that the icon for the sprint voice mail was still there. So I tried to drag it into the garbage and it wouldn't go. So I go into root explorer and to to system>app and go down the list looking for a sprint widget that I needed to get rid of and didn't find one. I also made sure that the sprint voice mail program wasn't in there either. So I shut off the phone and started it again figuring that the program was still in memory. Well after the reboot the program is still on my phone and now it's acting like it's a brand new account and asking me if I want to set it up. So this comes to my question how do I get rid of the Sprint Voice Mail. I can't find it in my system folder so what's going on? Anyone else experience this???
Help is always appreciated............
Lisa

You can try to mount your system and remove it via Terminal Emulator. Its a pretty simple process with only a few commands if you want to have a go that route.
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So what .apk am I looking for now? I couldn't find it with root explorer so it's technically gone but this thing is insidious........

mslisaj said:
So what .apk am I looking for now? I couldn't find it with root explorer so it's technically gone but this thing is insidious........
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It's a system app, updatecore.apk or such

Not sure what updatecore.apk is but as you pointed out it's probably a big deal.
Driving home from work today I was thinking about all this and then it dawned on me that I didn't really delete the Sprint Voicemail app as I thought. Earlier I was using Titanium and I was about to delete the Sprint voice mail app when I realized that it was telling me it was going to delete "Data" only. So in reality I only deleted the Voicemail data and not the entire program. You are probably correct that this program is securely nestled within the core of the Android/HTC/Sprint package. Truly amazing as this may be one of those things that you cannot get rid of. Unless it resides in it's own .apk somewhere and I can target that one program I'm very hesitant at this point to go after it. The interesting thing about deleting the data is it seems to have reverted back to the older version. A box came up after I rebooted the phone asking me if I wanted to personalize my voice mail like I did the first time months ago. Plus being it's not technically "working" as it's not personalized the sprint genie can't target me for upgrade as it doesn't know I'm using it. What do you think of that idea?
So here is where I am. I have the Google voice mail working and it's a very cool little program. I have a "Google phone number" that is free and actually works but I don't have to do anything about it as my original phone number works the voice mail just fine. So in reality I may have beaten Sprint to at least a draw on this one................
So to recap, I would say, if you don't want the voice to text sprint app you could go into Applications and delete the "DATA" and then it doesn't know who you are. Just leave the sprint voice mail application in the "unsetup state" and the monster "Mandatory Update" can't find you. You have effectively turned off the sprint voice mail that way and then you can install a third party like Google voice mail or You mail or anything you want.
Give me you take on this idea. I think this is whats going on and this may be the only fix to opt out of the Sprint program.................

For future reference, all system (non-deletable) applications are located in /system/app. Use Root Explorer to go there and delete them. I think what he meant was to delete the Sprint Updater, which I think is Sprint_Updater.apk, also in that folder.

mslisaj said:
Not sure what updatecore.apk is but as you pointed out it's probably a big deal.
Driving home from work today I was thinking about all this and then it dawned on me that I didn't really delete the Sprint Voicemail app as I thought. Earlier I was using Titanium and I was about to delete the Sprint voice mail app when I realized that it was telling me it was going to delete "Data" only. So in reality I only deleted the Voicemail data and not the entire program. You are probably correct that this program is securely nestled within the core of the Android/HTC/Sprint package. Truly amazing as this may be one of those things that you cannot get rid of. Unless it resides in it's own .apk somewhere and I can target that one program I'm very hesitant at this point to go after it. The interesting thing about deleting the data is it seems to have reverted back to the older version. A box came up after I rebooted the phone asking me if I wanted to personalize my voice mail like I did the first time months ago. Plus being it's not technically "working" as it's not personalized the sprint genie can't target me for upgrade as it doesn't know I'm using it. What do you think of that idea?
So here is where I am. I have the Google voice mail working and it's a very cool little program. I have a "Google phone number" that is free and actually works but I don't have to do anything about it as my original phone number works the voice mail just fine. So in reality I may have beaten Sprint to at least a draw on this one................
So to recap, I would say, if you don't want the voice to text sprint app you could go into Applications and delete the "DATA" and then it doesn't know who you are. Just leave the sprint voice mail application in the "unsetup state" and the monster "Mandatory Update" can't find you. You have effectively turned off the sprint voice mail that way and then you can install a third party like Google voice mail or You mail or anything you want.
Give me you take on this idea. I think this is whats going on and this may be the only fix to opt out of the Sprint program.................
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Product F(RED) said:
For future reference, all system (non-deletable) applications are located in /system/app. Use Root Explorer to go there and delete them. I think what he meant was to delete the Sprint Updater, which I think is Sprint_Updater.apk, also in that folder.
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Yeah, that may be the actual name of the app, I don't remember Just delete the VVM app and problem solved!

theimpaler747 said:
Yeah, that may be the actual name of the app, I don't remember Just delete the VVM app and problem solved!
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I meant delete the Voicemail app AND the updater. I believe the app is called Sprint_VM.apk.

Product F(RED) said:
I meant delete the Voicemail app AND the updater. I believe the app is called Sprint_VM.apk.
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Ok.... I thought it was something VMCore.apk

I don't remember. I deleted it and put it back with the name "Sprint_VM.apk". Doesn't matter what it's named, but I think you're right about "VMCore.apk".

Okay Gentlemen, I have looked for all those files and the only one that is there is the Sprint_Updater.apk. Nothing there that has a VM or VVM or Sprint VVM or anything like that. I am running the .6 version of the Sprint stock 2.1. But I believe I have it disable for now. As I wrote previously by deleting the data file I have essentially not activated the program. If you do come up with the file to delete that would take the VVM with it I will certainly give it a try but there is nothing in the system>app folder that looks even close.
I so appreciate you taking you time to weigh in on this problem.
Thank you.........
Lisa

For the life of me I couldn't find what the apk was named -_- Was about to flash 2.1 to find out ha ha
Though I think Regaw's toolbox may allow you to remove it.
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Nate14 said:
For the life of me I couldn't find what the apk was named -_- Was about to flash 2.1 to find out ha ha
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Just looked, it's:
Sprint_VVM.apk

mslisaj said:
Okay Gentlemen, I have looked for all those files and the only one that is there is the Sprint_Updater.apk. Nothing there that has a VM or VVM or Sprint VVM or anything like that. I am running the .6 version of the Sprint stock 2.1. But I believe I have it disable for now. As I wrote previously by deleting the data file I have essentially not activated the program. If you do come up with the file to delete that would take the VVM with it I will certainly give it a try but there is nothing in the system>app folder that looks even close.
I so appreciate you taking you time to weigh in on this problem.
Thank you.........
Lisa
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See above, delete that to get rid of SVVM for good

Well Gentlemen, again I just went though that directory vary carefully again and there is nothing that even comes close to a VVM or "voice mail" reference at all. It's simply not there.
Have you guys deleted this off your phones before? I guess you all are running some other Rom then the stock one so you haven't faced this mandatory update thing. But the files you are suggesting to remove are not in that directory. As I mentioned the Updater is there in two versions Sprint Updater and just plane Updater.
I don't believe this issue is worth you flashing the stock rom just to check it but that is a real offer and I appreciate that. I admire you guys that flash these phones just for the heck of it. When I have flashed the phone it makes my heart stop.
But thank you for all your responses. I certainly appreciate it........
Lisa

mslisaj said:
Well Gentlemen, again I just went though that directory vary carefully again and there is nothing that even comes close to a VVM or "voice mail" reference at all. It's simply not there.
Have you guys deleted this off your phones before? I guess you all are running some other Rom then the stock one so you haven't faced this mandatory update thing. But the files you are suggesting to remove are not in that directory. As I mentioned the Updater is there in two versions Sprint Updater and just plane Updater.
I don't believe this issue is worth you flashing the stock rom just to check it but that is a real offer and I appreciate that. I admire you guys that flash these phones just for the heck of it. When I have flashed the phone it makes my heart stop.
But thank you for all your responses. I certainly appreciate it........
Lisa
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I don't use stock, and yes I have been able to eliminate VVM.... did you reboot after deleting? Are you looking under system/app?

Yes to both of your questions.
I was thinking the same thing that maybe the program was still resident in the memory so I pulled the battery and everything. It's Sprints FU to the rooting community I guess...............

mslisaj said:
Yes to both of your questions.
I was thinking the same thing that maybe the program was still resident in the memory so I pulled the battery and everything. It's Sprints FU to the rooting community I guess...............
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Still, it should be removable Is it hiding in data/app or data/app-private for some reason?

Okay, you guys aren't going to believe this. But I rebooted the phone and I checked the data/app and the data/app-private. Found nothing in there. Then I went back to the app drawer and the offending program is GONE! I can't find any vestige of it anywhere. So I gather mission accomplished! I don't know what happened as earlier I did the reboot twice and pulled the battery each time and the third time was the charm for some reason. The only file I didn't remove was the Sprint_updater.apk. It's still there. But I have turned off the updates so I shouldn't be bothered by that either..............
Thank you all for your help. The android mystery continues..........
I really can't thank you guys enough as you have always come through..........
Lisa

mslisaj said:
Okay, you guys aren't going to believe this. But I rebooted the phone and I checked the data/app and the data/app-private. Found nothing in there. Then I went back to the app drawer and the offending program is GONE! I can't find any vestige of it anywhere. So I gather mission accomplished! I don't know what happened as earlier I did the reboot twice and pulled the battery each time and the third time was the charm for some reason. The only file I didn't remove was the Sprint_updater.apk. It's still there. But I have turned off the updates so I shouldn't be bothered by that either..............
Thank you all for your help. The android mystery continues..........
I really can't thank you guys enough as you have always come through..........
Lisa
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No problem! Glad you got it... let me know if you need anything else before I go to my Epic in a week or two

New Google Phone app update 05-15-18

There's a new update on the Play Store for the stock Google Phone app. And man they killed one thing I LOVED the most about it, the swipe to the different panels. I would always swipe left to my Favorites, or swipe right to the Contacts, or further swipe to the Voicemail. It was so smooth and fast, to just swipe from anywhere on the screen.
Now it's been moved to the bottom of the screen, no more swiping, now you need to tap on which panel you want. Which to me takes even longer now, and is not as fast and smooth as before.
I have been using the stock Google or ASOP Phone app for years, probably 8 years or so. This change is no bueno.

It was probably done for the benefit of those with phones that had less than quality touch screens and might have activated swipes unintentionally.
I dont mind though.

Oh man. Just go the update, too. I hate it that I can't swipe. In what weird direction is Google moving? I don't get it. They keep removing great features or replacing them with things nobody asked for or things completely out of touch with users.
The argument of the guy above me is kinda invalid. Even the worst digitizer + SoC combo will be able to do a simple swipe. I don't buy that argument, whoever came up with it. Even if they did not. In what world is an inferior, low end device getting a recent Android version on which the latest phone app is available?
Thank god apk mirror exists. AFAIK 18.0.187698947 is the latest and last one with swipe enabled.

Do you have the link for the .apk of a previous Phone app

Zorachus said:
Do you have the link for the .apk of a previous Phone app
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Just uninstall the update on the play store.

Str0ntium said:
Just uninstall the update on the play store.
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Good idea, thanks. I did, and now I have swipe back

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Good idea, thanks. I did, and now I have swipe back
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Awesome :good:

Mine keeps stopping!
I haven't been able to use the "Phone" app since the update!
I've done everything but reset the phone, nothing works and
since I can't even open the app, I can't even get rid of the update.
Any suggestions?
Thank you.

samteeee said:
Mine keeps stopping!
I haven't been able to use the "Phone" app since the update!
I've done everything but reset the phone, nothing works and
since I can't even open the app, I can't even get rid of the update.
Any suggestions?
Thank you.
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Can you open the play store? Don't need to open the phone app.

Str0ntium said:
Can you open the play store? Don't need to open the phone app.
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Sure can! You mean disable the phone app?

samteeee said:
Sure can! You mean disable the phone app?
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No. Open play store, search for "google phone", uninstall.

Str0ntium said:
No. Open play store, search for "google phone", uninstall.
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Mine is still the "Factory Version" so I can only
disable or update!

samteeee said:
Mine is still the "Factory Version" so I can only
disable or update!
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That would seem to indicate that it has not been updated, and the update is not the cause of your issue. Try updating?

Str0ntium said:
That would seem to indicate that it has not been updated, and the update is not the cause of your issue. Try updating?
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I have and still the same!

samteeee said:
I have and still the same!
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I take it you're saying the May security update is when your phone app broke, right? If that's the case, you can try flashing the May factory image after removing -w from the batch file. That 'should' rewrite the phone app, but I am not 100% sure it will. If not, a factory reset/reflash with wipe command left in batch file might be necessary unless someone else has an idea.
Maybe try an earlier version apk from apkmirror.com

Str0ntium said:
I take it you're saying the May security update is when your phone app broke, right? If that's the case, you can try flashing the May factory image after removing -w from the batch file. That 'should' rewrite the phone app, but I am not 100% sure it will. If not, a factory reset/reflash with wipe command left in batch file might be necessary unless someone else has an idea.
Maybe try an earlier version apk from apkmirror.com
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No the May update was fine, right after the app update started crashing.
But I think I'll try the earlier version from "apkmirror.com" before committing to re-flashing again.
Thank you.

samteeee said:
No the May update was fine, right after the app update started crashing.
But I think I'll try the earlier version from "apkmirror.com" before committing to re-flashing again.
Thank you.
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Let us know how it works out.

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Let us know how it works out.
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I had to disable the system "Phone" app first then installed
the latest that I downloaded from apkmirror.com and got
my phone going finally!
Thank you for replying.

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I had to disable the system "Phone" app first then installed
the latest that I downloaded from apkmirror.com and got
my phone going finally!
Thank you for replying.
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Cool! Good to know you didn't have to do a reset.

Based on the layouts for their new apps like the pixel 2 launcher or chrome beta, it looks like they are making apps easier to navigate with one hand by placing things towards the bottom of the screen. Seems easier to navigate than having to reach to the top of the screen in the prior version.