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I've been using FroyoStone Sense V3.2, and I'm not quite happy with the battery life I am getting out of it (sync and everything turned off and tuned properly).
I've spent a while digging through a ton of the android builds out there right now, but I failed to figure out which build in the end would have the best battery life.
I feel like there must be a running thread somewhere that keeps a running analysis and rating of various aspects of all the different builds, but this thread as well I failed to find.
Could someone help me out
That is a old build, have you even attempted to try a new one, or at least a new kernel?
Try using SuperRAMs' or MIUIs'
They're the best when it comes to battery matters .
Believe me, I've tried all builds (literally) myself
The problem with a Android build's battery life is that it's very dependent on the winmo rom and radio it's running off of. We have so many different versions of custom roms, european, usa roms and radios, no developer can possibly test all of them. It also depends on your local cell tower conditions, when you have weak signal it tends to drain a lot more power so having the right radio is very important.
Basically, it comes down to having to try the builds for yourself. There are too many builds to try them all. You can narrow down the process by first picking out the kind of build you like. I narrow it down to these:
1. Plain froyo builds, all the nexus one based and CyanogenMod builds. These are the best chance for you to get the best battery life, they have fewer running processes and usually runs fast. HD2ONE and JDMS are both superb builds.
2. EVO builds, they're quite mature at this point. Actually I think a lot of them aren't even updated anymore, though all you have to do is really just to update the kernel since there's not a lot to be done to those builds. I've tried MDJ rEVOlution and it was very good on battery life.
3. New Sense builds, all the Desire HD/Z builds. The Desire HD especially is a great fit for the HD2, but they tend to run a little slow. I ran the desire_hd2 build for a while and it's probably the fastest, smoothest DesireHD build, but there are times when I wish I was running a cm6 build, usually when I'm installing apps.
4. Specialty biulds are somewhat unique and often experimental, such as the mdj ginger builds, darkstone's superram, they're fun to try but I think if you're looking for a daily build you probably want to stick with cm6 or EVO.
miui should probably have its own category as well, but I don't have any experience with them since I don't like the iphone look
thanks for that really useful for those of us new to android and lost in a sea of builds
gingerbread should bring some improvements to battery over the current stock of builds.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870518
This ROM is in my opinion the fastest and also the most battery friendly.
Use radio 2.15.50.14 (see my signature)
And use OzDroid (also from my signature).
Have tested alot and these give me the best experience.
so the best battery life you got was what... 1 and a half day of normal usage?
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so the best battery life you got was what... 1 and a half day of normal usage?
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that's right for normal at least 1 day
Hi Guys
I would like to inform you guys I have found best perfomace build+kernal
I have tried various builds with various kernals for last couple of weeks.either I had battery drainage or stoppage or data corruption or laggy problems
Finally best one I tried is
MDJ_FroYo_HD_v._4.6_MDJ_S78.0 with update.kernel.hastarin.16.12.2010.Works perfect. battery usage is great to be honest with you better than window ROM and less laggy. no corrupted data or sudden stoppages.
Try guys.I bet this will be the best combination built I have ever tried.
Thanx Mdeejay and hasterin
what about RAM based built mdjay....?
And what's up with radio, sd-card, wm rom and such stuff?
Pretty subjective post and not really helpfull.
My radio 2.15
windows version 3.14
latest window version from HTC
first downloaded mdeejays and then extracted
then downloaded latest kernal from hasterin then copied into andriod .
thats it.best performance
imho its a useless post.
Best performance is very subjective
Besides , speaking of performance , ram version roms are on top , and thats not subjective
Spb TV does not work though. Have you tried it?
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what is the battery drain is standby with current widget? cheers
I am heavy user with lots of wiget running plus data is always on .Having fully charged in the morning,it lasted all day without single charge.But other builds lasted only couple of hours.forget about SPB TV. you will always find some app will not work on any builts even in native android.but What i am saying is about good perfomance. try it feel it.just small piece of advice try before say something.
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I am heavy user with lots of wiget running plus data is always on .Having fully charged in the morning,it lasted all day without single charge.But other builds lasted only couple of hours.forget about SPB TV. you will always find some app will not work on any builts even in native android.but What i am saying is about good perfomance. try it feel it.just small piece of advice try before say something.
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how long did you try the build until you reached your conclusion. 30min? 1hr? day? all builds work different for some people than others depending on winrom, radio, kernel, sdcard, apps installed, etc...
So what is it? whats the best build combo?Cause it seems to me that nothing is complete? Don't get me wrong their are some talented people here doing putting some incredible builds together and Ive tested a lot of them, but still cant seem to find that one build that could be used for long term daily use.Has any one else?
Ive searched a lot of threads and tried a lot of suggestion and not any real luck
what im using now seems to be pretty good but at times i have location and data drops and no mms.
I am using mccm 3.4 for weeks now without any problem. Other builds would crap out on me after few days of use. Just saying.
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I have CR192 DESIRE HD as winmo rom, radio 2.15.50 and I'm running motoman evo carbon remix .06 and I have a great performing setup, I usually unplug my phone around 3am to go to work and by the time I go to bed around 8pm I usually still have around 15% on moderate use. I've been using this setup with a couple of different motoman builds as a daily driver for 5 weeks without using winmo at all. Honestly is all on phone to phone basis. No matter how much you try the same setup might not work the same for two different phones. The hardware is not 100% identical on every phone, that's why it never behaves the same, that's why there's always people saying they're having an issue while others aren't.
So pretty much I'm saying that while you think your setup is the best, others might not have the same result as you.
what a horrible thread, lol
anyways, i dont have the crazy amount of times to test multiple builds and you probably got your findings wrong
i am using MDJ 4.6 Desire HD and its good, but not great
it has its flaws and issues
today I just got a corrupted SD card with many files with weird names in them
i have tested the Darkstone RAM build, didnt like anything without Sense
i have tested MIUI , its blazing fast but the fact that it looks like iphone, bleh
your statements are subjective and totally unmeasurable
Why is this in the dev section?
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Well the intention behind the thread is alright..Anyways, I am testing Gingerbread RAM V1.0 by MDJ and am getting less than 1% battery drain/hour which is the best I have experienced in 3months of trying various builds and it's rooted so SetCPU works. However, lots of other apps including Facebook are not working..I guess in time MDJ will show the way..
And I have 2.15 Radio, HTC latest ROM and HSPL
Mccm3.4 and mdj4.6 with non-newest-hastarin kernels are two build I will vouch for as daily drivers.
But no build is as reliable as a build with a .zip backup of itself on internal memory for speedy unzipping to sdcard.
I am running darkstones superram 1.5 now and loving it, and am looking forward to mdj's ram gingerbread rc5 when it comes out tonight or tomorrow.
On all these builds I named I see '6-9ma' standby battery drain a lot, 19ma sometimes.
i am using Motoman234_Desire_PCB_Sense_V1.0 work perfect all software work and installed fast and stable good back up
Anougher opinionated thread,this might work for you but might not be so good for someone else,its mostly down to personal preffrence but if you want a good Desire HD build then yeah its a good combo
Fishing for the best build
to begin with i have used radio 2.15.50 with wwe 3.14 original rom htc update,battery drainage was too high on windows and also android build,80% was the ram usage.so i have downgraded to wwe 1.66 and only upgraded the radio 2.15.50.i have been using MDJ REVOLUTION HD WITH HASTARIN 8.5.3 and its brilliant for daily usage.with moderate use, battery life is excellent.to me this is the best combination.i have also tried all other builds but i remained with this one.because its brilliant with animations and the lot.
one of our member has started this thread just to find out what he can use for his phone without trying other builds,because its easier for him to find out this way rather than doing himself.its not that he managed to find the best combination,HIS FISHING FOR THE BEST COMBINATION FROM THE OTHER MEMBERS.he will probably say he has tried all the other builds)
Not too be pee'ing you guys against the leggs.. but i'm using the same config now. for about 5 days and omfg.. this one really works! battery stands for a whole day while data always on. ( with gps always on about 14 hours before its drained )
no dropouts, no bull**** with ppp. no legs en a pretty good bench points.
Hey all,
Let's get a few ideas for 'everyday' builds that have little to no issues present.
This thread isn't the place to recommend 'nightly', bleeding edge stuff! Or stuff you've only had on your phone for 5 minutes!
There are so many builds out there for testing, and lord know's I'm someone who likes to mess with his HD2, but for people who just want to get on with a build that's as complete as complete can be... we need a list. No doubt time will make this list obsolete before long, but let's do it anyway.
I'm not even sure if there are any builds that can be considered almost 'complete' but I may be surprised.
I haven't switched to NAND yet as I need WinMobile for a couple of things but the way things are going it's only a matter of time. I'm using Darkstone's SuperRAM 1.5 FroYo build which has been a great build for as long as I've been using it (since before Christmas).
It's without doubt the most 'complete' SD/RAM build I've tried but I've experienced the following issues out of the box:
- Robot voice on first call made on boot (on lots of radios, but I'll keep trying)
- Battery life often jumps to ~60mA in standby for seemingly no reason, otherwise it's a good 4-9mA most of the time.
- Some occasional hiccups in data connection, but very rare.
- The camera app is basic/ugly (guess it's stock Froyo) and pics show up twice / are in 4:3 - but to be honest I haven't looked into this issue.
So as an everyday build it's fantastic, but not perfect. I'd recommend it to anyone not wanting to go down the NAND route who wishes to have a reliable, stable and speedy Android build.
So what would YOU recommend from experience for an ALMOST PERFECT / STABLE Android?
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So what would YOU recommend from experience for an ALMOST PERFECT / STABLE Android?
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From experience, I'd recommend that everyone interested in Android read through all the ROM threads (1st post at least), and then make an informed decision where to start. After that, if they have any issues they should try a different ROM.
Since different people experience different things you can't tell people what will and won't work. They need to try themselves, to find out.
Other than that, each ROM thread has a list of usual suspects "working/not working", so we already have a list of these things.
Ok, guys. After installing and testing some of the best and popular android builds I came around to write my opinions here.
First thing first... I appreciate all the works by guys who made android SD builds.
Second, sorry if my English is not good enough.
I purchased my hd2 about a month ago. And after some research I decide to install wp7 and android on it.
But the question for me was which android build will be more suitable?
Here are some important key features to choose from:
1. Reliable
2. Fast
3. Stable
4. Smooth
5. User friendly
6. Pre-installed programs
7. Development cycle
8. Compatibility
9. Error and bug free
10. Battery usage
11. Cutting edge technology
Between these key features, 3 builds were more competitive.
1. American android
2. Desire DL
3. Rafdriod
For those who like pre install programs, HTC sense and software compatibility, go for Desire DL or Rafdriod which both are based on Froyo 2.2.1, I personally prefer Rafdriod between these two. Because, it's more reliable, less freezes, a bit faster and more battery efficiency. Both Froyo Builds are more android software market installation compatible.
But for those who needs stable, reliable, user friendly, cutting edge technology, error and bug free, smooth, fast and more battery efficiency OS, I recommed using gingerbread builds which American android is one the best builds based on gingerbread 2.3.3
Anyway, you may experience some Android market application installation compatibility issue on gingerbread builds, which I think it’s worth it to wait for newer versions of those applications that work with gingerbread.
Here is comparison Chart Attached
Have a great time installing your Android....
Thanks. Many if not most of us spend a lot of time for finding the best build for their needs. This is part of the fun, but reading other people's experiences is surely helpful.
I greatly appreciate this... i have been doong this since my hd2 came in on the second shippment. I have grown tired of following dev's/ cook's just to see there near perfect builds. Then boom they are gone and buiod is stuck. I have been looking to move to rafdroid and now feel confident. So thank you for this info.
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I am using Rafdriod 4.2 and is running continously 2 days. Use mainly for calls and a bit of wifi, switch to airplane mode when I retire for the night.
I can say the build is excellent and the battery consumption is decent, suitable for normal day-to-day usage. Will try 'American andriod' soon.
Awesome thread. Really appreciate your thoughtful research on the top sd based android.
my opinion: both MCCM's and BOYPPC's Gingerbread builds are far better than AmeriCanDroid builds
wow! it seems American Android is the best since it is free of bugs and smooth....will download & test it ASAP!! Thanks!
Thanked! I narrowed my choice down between RAFDROID and DL Desire, mainly because I wanted a rom with SenseUI. After reading this I think I'm gonna go with RAFDROID!
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my opinion: both MCCM's and BOYPPC's Gingerbread builds are far better than AmeriCanDroid builds
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Can you elaborate please?
I have tested MCCM HD 4.0 (Froyo), was laggy and battery eater. DesireDL 2.1 was better for me.
Thanks to the OP for this comparison ! Now I'm hesitating between RafDroid 4.2 and AmericanDroid. Will test both I think...
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Can you elaborate please?
I have tested MCCM HD 4.0 (Froyo), was laggy and battery eater. DesireDL 2.1 was better for me.
Thanks to the OP for this comparison ! Now I'm hesitating between RafDroid 4.2 and AmericanDroid. Will test both I think...
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the HD 4.0 is a 2.2 build, but i talked about Gingerbread builds...MCCM's GB build temporaly kick from xda, but you can try BOYPPC GB v5, it's on the forum.
I've tried RAF and AA versions.
I found the RAF version very usable but just the odd time it would hang at all the wrong times, trying to answer a call or simply unlocking the device. The rest of the OS was brilliant and worked well. The hanging just made me think i have to try another flavour android.
So I went onto AA.
Seems to fly, no hangs yet but data keeps dropping and that's starting to get annoying. I can be browsing quite happily for the data to just stop working. I've tried various fixes. Thankfully this version doesn't require a restart to get data working but it's still a pain to go and switch off data and then back on again.
Battery life has been average, would have expected better by now to be honest.
If a dev can just meet in the middle I'll be the happiest chap in the world
Good post, I pretty much agree with the comparison.
AmericanDroid is definitely the "best" overall SD Android version on HD2.
Now I will give a subsctancial donation to any developer managing to make a "real" sense build (with HTC sense, and not just a theme) as stable as AmericanDroid, even if the battery life is a bit (not too much) shorter.
This is very informative post, and matches my experience. But, since I'm not ready to completely give WM6.5 up, I'd like you to tell me how NAND builds compare to this. If AA gets 10 for stability, reliability, smoothness and speed, would same NAND build get 12? Would NAND Rafdroid score better than SD? How everything compares to native Android devices?
I personally have given up trying any of the Sense builds because of the battery drain.
MCCM GB V2.2 SD and Americandroid are both on a par (about a days moderate to heavy use) but I seem to have settled on MCCM.
I will go to a nand build in the near future as I have not booted into 6.5 in the last 2 weeks and have not missed it.
I have been testing the 'beta' version of the UI I used to use on winmo and am loving it on top of gingerbread. Can't wait to buy it when it comes out
It's normal MCCM is similar... that guy's not a dev, he copy/pastes the work of other devs among which Americandroid.
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..........but I seem to have settled on MCCM..........
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Me too...after trying out various ROMs
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It's normal MCCM is similar... that guy's not a dev, he copy/pastes the work of other devs among which Americandroid.
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That may or may not be true, but I can say MCCM's V4.5 [DESIRE HD Sense] is fast and the data conection is rock solid. I had connection issues with AA. I plan to try AA again to see it those bugs have been worked out.
If you compare light grey with pure black, you'll see that the light grey is brighter.
But when you compare the light grey with white, definitely the white will be brighter .
My point is, Just because American's is better than the rest it doesn't mean it's good .
At the end, it's just my opinion . Thanks for the thread
Hey Fake, excellent guide! This helps me to choose the one that fits me. Greatly appreciated your work.
A comparision of android ??? With 2 post every year ???
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Hey Fake, excellent guide! This helps me to choose the one that fits me. Greatly appreciated your work.
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I dont believe this...!!!!!!!!!!!
Guys ...This thread is put together by a man who has only 9 post sinse 2006!!!
And his 10ht post its a guide to choose the BEst android build ?????
This is bold ...very bold !!!!!!!!!
Come on man...did you try all the android builds ??? for how long ???
And the points that you give them are from where ????
I am using android for so long and i cant still say what build is the best or give them points (good or bad)...
I just answer ppls questions and give them quidelines so the can run the build they want...
I dont tell them that this build has 10 battery and 7 usability !!!!!!!!!!
And the other build ...other numbers!!!!!!!!
I have come to welcome all the help that ppl can give in this forum....
But a guide on what is the best android build ?????
From someone who post 2 times every year ?????????
No ...not for me ...!!!!
my 2c on this...
colossus
Hello there
I've just got an HD2 (I know it's a little late),
but i found out that this device is even better on some midrange phones in the market (according to the budget i currently have)
i knew there are WinMobile 6.5 builds, Windows 7.8, Android SD and NAND, UBuntu and finally MEEGO.
forget about WinMo 6.5, it's really outdated.
I know that some will tell me it's a matter of personal choice, but what i'm searching for is the most stable, no battery problems, and applications support.
any suggestions about the top 3 ROMS i should test/Use?
thank you all
I'd bet on Android...
If you know that it's purely a matter of opinion then what's the logic in asking?
IMO - WP7 is fast, fluid and the best OS if you don't use too many apps
- Android works fairly well and has a much better app selection than WP, but isn't quite as smooth. It's more suited for high-end hardware
- WinMo is great (yes, that does indeed mean Windows Mobile 6.5) for business-oriented usage, with excellent battery life and stability.
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I'd bet on Android...
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thanks bib*oops
Nigeldg said:
If you know that it's purely a matter of opinion then what's the logic in asking?
IMO - WP7 is fast, fluid and the best OS if you don't use too many apps
- Android works fairly well and has a much better app selection than WP, but isn't quite as smooth. It's more suited for high-end hardware
- WinMo is great (yes, that does indeed mean Windows Mobile 6.5) for business-oriented usage, with excellent battery life and stability.
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thanks Nigeldg, well i really don't want to take it from the matter of opinion side of view, that's why I asked the question
I want opinions about stability, performance and battery life, with wide applications support.
the guy i bought the phone from is using an Android 2.2 build, is it worth Upgrading to the latest 4.1.2?
my Ex-phone was an touch HD (Blackstone), so i was used to putting Winmo roms only.
i'll have to read a little about how to put Android, WM7 roms.
I Agree with you that Winmo is the best in performance, battery life and currently mostly for business use, because Applications are not developed anymore for Winmo, even existing apps(specially Social) stopped working.
that's why i don't consider putting Winmo anymore, except for as a backup.
thanks
Could you two please suggest Roms one for android and another for WM7?
there are a lot, and i don't which to begin with.
I can't answer any questions unless you provide more information about what your usage of the device will be like. Different things suit different people, you'll probably just have to try some ROMs out yourself and choose later.
Hi,
I also bought my HD2 a little late in the game (some 6 months ago) and it is my second phone, I bought specificaly because I was curious to test WP7 and I knew it to be a very flexible phone if I changed my mind or new things came by (like WP8, still hope it will work some day).
That said, I use PDAimatejam WP7.8 ROM (v8.7, to be exact) and it is very stable and very, very fast, very suited to be your daily driver. There are 2 downsides (that I believe are common to all WP7 roms in the HD2):
- Lack of apps, compared to Android (that has nothing to do with the HD2, obviously). The rom I mentioned comes with the nokia apps (drive, music, etc.), I would say that your basic needs are there, depending on the type of user you are.
- Batery usage is so-so, and the batery level is inacurate. You need to perform "rituals" (look for the camera trick, for example) to have a decent battery life.
In the android front I cannot give you a personal experience (I have a Galaxy Nexus but never used android in the HD2) but the development there is very active. I would sugest you to go to a 4.1 or 4.2 ROM, it is a vast improvement over any 2.x version of android. From what I read there are very stable versions (my phone actually came with android 4.0, but I used it just for a couple hours like that). Android has a much better app coverage and as I said the development is very active, you have more ROM options to chose from. I do not know if there are any specific bugs/"characteristics" that you need to be aware, as is the case with WP7 and the batery.
Another thing, you can always try some of the options for a few days (I would recommend at least a week or two for each OS) and decide which one you like better, or even dual-boot Android and WP7. Thats the beauty of the HD2.
Hope it helps.
Good luck,
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I can't answer any questions unless you provide more information about what your usage of the device will be like. Different things suit different people, you'll probably just have to try some ROMs out yourself and choose later.
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Well, these are the apps I Mostly use: Facebook, Twitter, WhatsUp, Skype, Navigation, RSS....
Android and WM7 will it be then i guess, with android as the main OS.
could you point me to a good Anroid ROM to start with?
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Hi,
I also bought my HD2 a little late in the game (some 6 months ago) and it is my second phone, I bought specificaly because I was curious to test WP7 and I knew it to be a very flexible phone if I changed my mind or new things came by (like WP8, still hope it will work some day).
That said, I use PDAimatejam WP7.8 ROM (v8.7, to be exact) and it is very stable and very, very fast, very suited to be your daily driver. There are 2 downsides (that I believe are common to all WP7 roms in the HD2):
- Lack of apps, compared to Android (that has nothing to do with the HD2, obviously). The rom I mentioned comes with the nokia apps (drive, music, etc.), I would say that your basic needs are there, depending on the type of user you are.
- Batery usage is so-so, and the batery level is inacurate. You need to perform "rituals" (look for the camera trick, for example) to have a decent battery life.
In the android front I cannot give you a personal experience (I have a Galaxy Nexus but never used android in the HD2) but the development there is very active. I would sugest you to go to a 4.1 or 4.2 ROM, it is a vast improvement over any 2.x version of android. From what I read there are very stable versions (my phone actually came with android 4.0, but I used it just for a couple hours like that). Android has a much better app coverage and as I said the development is very active, you have more ROM options to chose from. I do not know if there are any specific bugs/"characteristics" that you need to be aware, as is the case with WP7 and the batery.
Another thing, you can always try some of the options for a few days (I would recommend at least a week or two for each OS) and decide which one you like better, or even dual-boot Android and WP7. Thats the beauty of the HD2.
Hope it helps.
Good luck,
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thanks Sandro, I will definitly give WM7 a shot,
any quick guides on burning Android/WM7 ROMS, i know the forum has articles about that, but asking experienced users is better for a noob like me at the moment
thanks.
If you don't browse the web too much and don't do any heavy gaming then go for a GB ROM. Choose one yourself, there are tonnes and all are good, but just don't use Sense. A CM7/MIUI GB ROM should work fine for you. I've never used WP so I can't recommend any ROMs, I guess just get the latest version if you can. I'm not going to link you to any guides because you're supposed to search (that's one of the forum rules) so I don't really see why I should do it for you
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If you don't browse the web too much and don't do any heavy gaming then go for a GB ROM. Choose one yourself, there are tonnes and all are good, but just don't use Sense. A CM7/MIUI GB ROM should work fine for you. I've never used WP so I can't recommend any ROMs, I guess just get the latest version if you can. I'm not going to link you to any guides because you're supposed to search (that's one of the forum rules) so I don't really see why I should do it for you
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thanks Nigeldg
if you want an easy intro to android, consider installing Darkstone's superram froyo on SD.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870518
it's an easy quick install, everything is supported hardware-wise and if you have the latest stock rom (3.14?) you won't have to change anything on the phone. it boots and runs fast from winMo.
if i'd known how easy and useful it was going to be i'd have installed this ages ago.
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if you want an easy intro to android, consider installing Darkstone's superram froyo on SD.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870518
it's an easy quick install, everything is supported hardware-wise and if you have the latest stock rom (3.14?) you won't have to change anything on the phone. it boots and runs fast from winMo.
if i'd known how easy and useful it was going to be i'd have installed this ages ago.
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Lol you're a good few years late with that one mate
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if you want an easy intro to android, consider installing Darkstone's superram froyo on SD.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870518
it's an easy quick install, everything is supported hardware-wise and if you have the latest stock rom (3.14?) you won't have to change anything on the phone. it boots and runs fast from winMo.
if i'd known how easy and useful it was going to be i'd have installed this ages ago.
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Thanks theabsurdman, but i already have Froyo, and i'm thinking about getting the latest Android version.