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[Q] Noob here. Some questions about rooting.

I've had my DX since launch day and love it. It's amazing how much more I can do and how much better of a phone this is than my old iPhone 3GS. I have been on the fence about rooting and have been wanting to do it even more now that this Z4Root app has been released. I'm just a little scared that I might screw something up. I have a few questions that hopefully can be answered and will hopefully help me jump into the root world. Thanks in advance.
1. If I hit the *Unroot* button in Z4Root, will it get rid of everything it had installed and return my phone back to normal?
2. If my phone is rooted, will I still get notified about and be able to install future OTA software updates for when 2.2.1 and Gingerbread are released?
3. The main reason I want root: how do I change my status bar from the stock one to the black one everyone has?

iittaalliiaann77 said:
I've had my DX since launch day and love it. It's amazing how much more I can do and how much better of a phone this is than my old iPhone 3GS. I have been on the fence about rooting and have been wanting to do it even more now that this Z4Root app has been released. I'm just a little scared that I might screw something up. I have a few questions that hopefully can be answered and will hopefully help me jump into the root world. Thanks in advance.
1. If I hit the *Unroot* button in Z4Root, will it get rid of everything it had installed and return my phone back to normal?
2. If my phone is rooted, will I still get notified about and be able to install future OTA software updates for when 2.2.1 and Gingerbread are released?
3. The main reason I want root: how do I change my status bar from the stock one to the black one everyone has?
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1. It says it will. But maybe someone that has unrooted can chime in. I did use the app to root- but I have had no need to unroot. And I should mention this- it is the droidx bootstrap recovery app that appears to be very difficult to "uninstall". Bootstrap Recovery is a separate app that you will need to create back ups of your phone.
2. If your phone is rooted you should get the updates. I was rooted on 2.1 and got 2.2. But only if you don't delete any files from your system that should not be deleted. If you delete stock system files than I don't think you can get the update without either restoring the files or doing the sbf.
3. To get the black bar there are a couple of ways of going about it. You have to be rooted. the easiest way when you are first getting started is to find a black bar mod that comes in the form of a .zip file that you apply using the DroidX Bootstrapper App I was talking about. Most of the threads that have black bars also have instructions for the method to apply them. Make sure the mod is for the rom you have. If you apply the rubix1.6 black bar mod to your rooted 2.2 ota rom- you will be in a heap of trouble. Generally you run the Bootsrap recovery app and boot into recovery. Make a back up first (it will get stored on your sdcard in a file called clockworkmod/backup (i think that is the name). I always reboot after creating a back up.
Then reboot into recovery again. Apply .zip from sdcard. choose the .zip. apply it.
the whole thing was very confusing for me until I did it a few times. And everyone talked in very vague terminology. For instance - no one explained- the volume rocker buttons move the curser up/down. the camera button is the enter or select button. and the back button is still the back button.
Once you get going on it- if you need clarification- I will try and keep an eye on this thread.
good luck.

Thank you very much for your reply. I will try to look into the bootstrap app you are talking about to see if it is simple to unroot and go from there. I appreciate your time and hopefully I will root soon and I will post my outcome.

I just returned by D2G and went got the DX, (the keyboard was too small for me). But you are right the Boot strap Recovery app is a pita to remove. Every time I turned my D2G on or rebooted it came up in Boot Strap Recovery which I was aware it would do. Not a big issue, but removing it is a PITA.

If you do the 2.3 update you can forget rooting with that program

Now that I have 2.3, how can I root my phone to remove Madden NFL 11?

Briss23 said:
Now that I have 2.3, how can I root my phone to remove Madden NFL 11?
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If you have the latest OTA, .340 (Android 2.2.1), z4root will work in a matter of seconds.

once you go root you'll never come back to plain and boring.
Root, Rom, Theme.
Read all the threads lots of good info here and other sites....

Any OTA updates in the future cause issue to phone

Newbie here.
I just rooted my phone and install Skyraider 3.5.
I love it so far.
My question is, if Verizon sends out an OTA, will that cause any issue to my Incredible?
I have already made a backup for that reason and would I be able to restore it or I will have to start all over again?
Thanks

No.
Sent from my girlfriend according to my current girlfriend

meazz1 said:
Newbie here.
I just rooted my phone and install Skyraider 3.5.
I love it so far.
My question is, if Verizon sends out an OTA, will that cause any issue to my Incredible?
I have already made a backup for that reason and would I be able to restore it or I will have to start all over again?
Thanks
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You won't even get a notification for an OTA if you're on any other ROM besides the stock Verizon one. Don't worry about it

You can block future ota if u want. Using root explorer go to /system/etc/security and change otacert.zip to otacert.zip.bak
Inc SR 3.5, 40GB, 1800mah
www.TOOLBAND.com

good to know.
thnx

WELL, some ROMs will still get OTA updates, but not notifications about it. Also your on XDA, youll get the OTA from here before its even out.

this morning, I saw notification for update and got scared.
The updates were of ROM Manager and Wirefly Backup apps.
Everything is looking good.

I have a rooted DINC with the stock ROM. I rooted prior to Verizon pushing out the latest OTA update, which I believe just included a bunch of bloatware. I'd like to go ahead and receive that update anyway so I can have the latest stock ROM and to stop those pesky update messages from popping up. Currently, I guess since my phone is rooted, I cannot update. So here are the options I can think of:
1. Unroot, receive update, reroot (not my favorite option, would like to avoid!)
2. Get the latest stock ROM with update mentioned and flash my phone via ROM manager with that ROM (where can I get this ROM?)
3. Go ahead and try turning off the updates as mentioned in this thread to atleast get rid of the pesky update messages constantly popping up on my phone.
Any ideas?

blackstallion said:
I have a rooted DINC with the stock ROM. I rooted prior to Verizon pushing out the latest OTA update, which I believe just included a bunch of bloatware. I'd like to go ahead and receive that update anyway so I can have the latest stock ROM and to stop those pesky update messages from popping up. Currently, I guess since my phone is rooted, I cannot update. So here are the options I can think of:
1. Unroot, receive update, reroot (not my favorite option, would like to avoid!)
2. Get the latest stock ROM with update mentioned and flash my phone via ROM manager with that ROM (where can I get this ROM?)
3. Go ahead and try turning off the updates as mentioned in this thread to atleast get rid of the pesky update messages constantly popping up on my phone.
Any ideas?
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My suggestion? Since you're comfortable flashing a ROM, just flash Virtuous 3.2 and be done with it. It's the stock ROM + everything good about being able to root, in one complete package. Flash a nice kernel (ziggy, lou, incredikernel) while you're at it and enjoy some comparatively awesome battery life!

Thanks for the suggestion, that definitely looks like option 2 which was my preferred option.

Android 2.3.2 System Update

I just got a prompted notification that 2.3.2 system update is now downloaded and verified in my phone. Just need to go ahead and ok the install/update on my phone. Not sure if most or all are getting this?
Should I? LOL
more info:
"Android 2.3.2
601kb
This system update from Google contains important bug fixes."

Go for it.
This is probably the update that includes the major SMS bug fix. Samsung posted to their official twitter account that and update to address that is coming very soon.
It looks like v2.3.2 is the one.

Funny thing though, I never had problems with the SMS bug. I have sent/received SMS (2k+). And when I got the notification, I just pulled the battery off to check my S/N to register in the Samsung website. LOL
Is there any other bug/fixes with this updates other than the SMS bug?

If you're rooted, you might want to wait and see if it's safe to do it (ie., doesn't break root) unless you're confident on how to get it back. The last update screwed with Recovery and gave some people some slight grief for a short period.

Just rooted
Wouldn't you know it? After I just finish rooting using the step by step guide, the first thing that pops up is that there is an update to install. So my question is, will installing this update kill my root? Or any other negative consequences for my newly-rooted SNS if I update to 2.3.2?

Just rebooted after update, seems that at least the browser got some kind of lagfix, for example www.n4g.com.

"Your system is currently up to date."
hmmm.... what about people on Custom ROMS ?
i check the Settings > About > System Updates
and there's nothing it says
"Your system is currently up to date."

Without thinking I chose to install it while being rooted and not backing up. After it rebooted it froze (when it couldn't find a recovery I'm guessing.) I pulled the battery, let it reboot, and I'm still 2.3.1 and rooted. Just FYI

AllGamer said:
hmmm.... what about people on Custom ROMS ?
i check the Settings > About > System Updates
and there's nothing it says
"Your system is currently up to date."
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Often one have to wait untill the devs implement the update into the custom rom.

Generally once you're on a custom rom, you're best to wait for the rom dev to give you guidance.

treodoc said:
Wouldn't you know it? After I just finish rooting using the step by step guide, the first thing that pops up is that there is an update to install. So my question is, will installing this update kill my root? Or any other negative consequences for my newly-rooted SNS if I update to 2.3.2?
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Not sure without being able to open the update file and see what it actually does.
IF you're going to try it. Have a nandroid backup made of your system as it is right now, and have a copy of CWM recovery handy to reflash via fastboot.
You'll probably have to re-root if you can even get the OTA to stick (like the one post above that says it didn't...)

so, back to stock recovery before update?

swype
FYI, swype did not work after update, had to reinstall, now works fine.

How do I get this update?
Made a check for updates in my NS, and I got none.
Still in 2.3.1 here.

Would those of you who get it, if you have a chance, please run the logcat on your phone BEFORE updating and try to catch the url so we can get a manual link for it:
in order to extract the url for the system update, we need to run alogcat from the market, then when the update notification appears look in your logs for a url that says something like clients.google . You can install alogcat, then set filter to clients.google
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Phantom1275 said:
How do I get this update?
Made a check for updates in my NS, and I got none.
Still in 2.3.1 here.
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You can try to check in. *#*#2432546#*#*

it just says that checkin succeeded on notification bar and that's all... No updates...

How to root 2.3.2. Are there any differences ? what clockmod recovery use ?

krohnjw said:
You can try to check in. *#*#2432546#*#*
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That's the check I have mentioned.
Still nothing. Guess I have to wait.

Trinitronik said:
it just says that checkin succeeded on notification bar and that's all... No updates...
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It's going to roll out slowly, just like the 2.3.1 and Market updates did. I don't think all the checkins in the world will speed it up by any significant amount.
What we impatient types need is someone who is offered the update to grab the url so we can just manually download it.
Udaw said:
How to root 2.3.2. Are there any differences ? what clockmod recovery use ?
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No one knows yet! Have to get it to see what it changes (breaks).

[Q] will update remove root access and netflicks

Hi just a couple of quick questions.
1 - I have rooted my a500 and got netflicks working. I am now get the update request it I update wii it remove my root access and break netflicks?
2 - if yes to question 1. Then if I ever want to update shoyl I remove netflicks and unroot before running the update.
3 - last question is there a way to turn of the update reminder. Right now all I can do i s say remind me later
Thanks for the help

storm134 said:
1 - I have rooted my a500 and got netflicks working. I am now get the update request it I update wii it remove my root access and break netflicks?
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Yes, it will remove root and break netflix
2 - if yes to question 1. Then if I ever want to update shoyl I remove netflicks and unroot before running the update.
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That would be the best bet, you will also have to undo whatever patching you did to make netflix work (or re-flash a stock rom first)
3 - last question is there a way to turn of the update reminder. Right now all I can do i s say remind me later
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I found if I clicked cancel instead of "remind me later" the notification went away completely (now I don't know if it would come back at some later time but it worked for a little while for me) You can also go in to the settings and about tablet, then click system update and uncheck automatically check for system updates.

im starting to dislike netflix. Might be forced onto Hulu then I remember the movie They Live, now I feel like a consumer whore. I installed an update for netflixvia xda after my Netflix stopped working, now when I go to Netflix on my a500 it read something like this device is banned. So I guess if it ain't broke don't fix it.

storm134 said:
Hi just a couple of quick questions.
1 - I have rooted my a500 and got netflicks working. I am now get the update request it I update wii it remove my root access and break netflicks?
2 - if yes to question 1. Then if I ever want to update shoyl I remove netflicks and unroot before running the update.
3 - last question is there a way to turn of the update reminder. Right now all I can do i s say remind me later
Thanks for the help
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Once you get rooted do the following to stop updates:
mv /system/app/FDUpdater.apk /system/app/FDUpdater.apk.old
mv /system/app/FWupdateService.apk /system/app/FWupdateService.apk.old
Seems that by renaming these files stops the updates. However, ACER should NEVER nuke everything but should only change their stuff.

OTA Update 24.81.3.en.ca

My wife has started being prompted to this system update the last week for 24.81.3.en.ca. I'm wondering if she can hit install no problem or if i'll need to unroot (or do more?) before i can install.
I've looked and actually can't find much info on this specific update so not sure why that is but if someone could confirm that would be helpful as i dont want to brick her phone as she already doesn't like me 'fiddling with it' so i'll be a dead man but the constant prompts are also starting to annoy her.
Thanks!

I did this update today. Thought it was nougat. Biggest problem for me, was I seem to have lost 60gb of downloaded music on my 128gb sd card. Google play music started downloading EVERYTHING again. Also, all the programs that were on my SD card, disappeared from my home screens. The apps were still there in the app drawer, just had to put the shortcuts back. Not really sure what the update addressed.

SonnyTheMoney said:
I did this update today. Thought it was nougat. Biggest problem for me, was I seem to have lost 60gb of downloaded music on my 128gb sd card. Google play music started downloading EVERYTHING again. Also, all the programs that were on my SD card, disappeared from my home screens. The apps were still there in the app drawer, just had to put the shortcuts back. Not really sure what the update addressed.
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October security patch
Sent from my XT1562 using XDA-Developers mobile app

I installed it but, StageFright Detector still tells me that my phone is vulnerable even with this security update. Google needs to make more efforts. Or maybe, Motorola should've given us the December 2016 update instead of a two month old update.

I saw a timeline earlier regarding a Nougat update in Dec for X Play? Any word?

ok so do i just unroot and install or something else? Or is there anyway to hide the update prompts?

farquea said:
ok so do i just unroot and install or something else? Or is there anyway to hide the update prompts?
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You habe to be totally stock while updating from OTA.

SonnyTheMoney said:
I did this update today. Thought it was nougat. Biggest problem for me, was I seem to have lost 60gb of downloaded music on my 128gb sd card. Google play music started downloading EVERYTHING again. Also, all the programs that were on my SD card, disappeared from my home screens. The apps were still there in the app drawer, just had to put the shortcuts back. Not really sure what the update addressed.
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Please share ota file on share drive like, googledrive/dropbox/etc.

Yeah if someone can share it, that'd be great. I can't go back to my stock ROM anymore cause I did the update, then tried CM14.1 and now, trying to go back I get (bootloader) preflash validation failed...

bablu048 said:
You habe to be totally stock while updating from OTA.
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So I'm using the stock Rom but the bootloader is unlocked and rooted so I have to unroot only and install the update then re-root?

farquea said:
So I'm using the stock Rom but the bootloader is unlocked and rooted so I have to unroot only and install the update then re-root?
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In your bootloader the status should say "unmodified/original(something like that)" you need stock recovery.
Easiest way is to download the new firmware and flash it.

skynetin said:
Please share ota file on share drive like, googledrive/dropbox/etc.
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https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bx3VTuhTDlHYY1pDRWc4d1Q2X0E

Do NOT do this update. Nothing but problems since. Now will not recognize my sd card at all. Will not format it, gives tons of errors. Called Motorola support, they are aware of problems. Terrible idea.

Maybe that's why I'm completely unable to relock the bootloader with the official ROM?

SonnyTheMoney said:
Do NOT do this update. Nothing but problems since. Now will not recognize my sd card at all. Will not format it, gives tons of errors. Called Motorola support, they are aware of problems. Terrible idea.
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Thanks, I was just doing a TWRP backup on my device to start the process of installing this update. I'll subscribe and wait for others opinion before installing.
Prosis said:
Maybe that's why I'm completely unable to relock the bootloader with the official ROM?
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I've never been able to relock a Moto device. I thought that was a Nexus only feature, but I could be wrong.

AaronCompNetSys said:
Thanks, I was just doing a TWRP backup on my device to start the process of installing this update. I'll subscribe and wait for others opinion before installing.
I've never been able to relock a Moto device. I thought that was a Nexus only feature, but I could be wrong.
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You can relock them but it will always remain as having been unlocked (status code 2). I've done it several times after tinkering with CM but after yesterday's update I can't do it anymore. I get a preflash verification error.

AaronCompNetSys said:
Thanks, I was just doing a TWRP backup on my device to start the process of installing this update. I'll subscribe and wait for others opinion before installing.
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To save you looking around, here's a reminder how to stop updates: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/MOTO-G...llipop-update-notification/m-p/3204499#M19669
If you really want to get rid of the Lollipop update notification go to "Setting" then scroll down to "Apps" and select it. It will take you to another screen. Since it's asking you to update you have downloaded the update that enables you to upgrade. Under the "Download" tab scroll down until you find "Motorola Update Services" and select it. You'll have three options at the top, "Force stop, Uninstall Updates and Disable." Select "Disable." It will then prompt you "Delete data and disable app?" Select "OK." It will then ask "Do you want to replace this app with the factory version?" Select "OK." You will no longer be asked to upgrade. If you ever want to upgrade just enable it under the the app again under the "Disabled" tab in the App menu, just swipe to the far right and enable. Don't forget to download the update from the playstore to enable the upgrade to Lollipop in the future.
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I simply use Link2SD to freeze apps like this.

SonnyTheMoney said:
Do NOT do this update. Nothing but problems since. Now will not recognize my sd card at all. Will not format it, gives tons of errors. Called Motorola support, they are aware of problems. Terrible idea.
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That's unfortunate for you. Personally, I don't have any problem after the update. The only trouble I had at first was that it was refusing to install because I had root. I tried to unroot and then reinstall default recovery but I still had the same error. I had to flash factory image on the phone before installing it.

Alright the firmware with the update was added to https://github.com/motoxplay/stock !

Update 24.81.3.en.ca "error!" during install process
Nico3d3 said:
That's unfortunate for you. Personally, I don't have any problem after the update. The only trouble I had at first was that it was refusing to install because I had root. I tried to unroot and then reinstall default recovery but I still had the same error. I had to flash factory image on the phone before installing it.
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Hi Guys,
Newbie to this forum...here's hoping you can help resolve my issue. The latest update (24.81.3.en.ca ) does not want to install on my x play get an" error!" message mid-way through the install. Performed a factory reset ( a few times) as per Motorola customer support. Still get the same error message mid-installation…Any suggestions? My phone is stock ( not rooted ...yet). I noticed other users having issues with this update. Was wondering if I don't install this update will I still be able to install Nougat (when it becomes available)? Other than this issue the phone works great no problems.
Cheers!