guys i know this is not the place for general topics but i think that the reason everytime we boot after root we loose it because the system is all backed up in the phone internal memory i belive that the g2 has 4gigs of memory but why is it that we can only use 1.5gigs of the 4 come on guys think about it backing up the whole system can take that much memory out if we can somehow modify the system internal memroy and delete everything on it wouldnt that work and make our root stick. please dont flame me im only trying to help and cant accept the fact that we cant root anymore .
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guys i know this is not the place for general topics but i think that the reason everytime we boot after root we loose it because the system is all backed up in the phone internal memory i belive that the g2 has 4gigs of memory but why is it that we can only use 1.5gigs of the 4 come on guys think about it backing up the whole system can take that much memory out if we can somehow modify the system internal memroy and delete everything on it wouldnt that work and make our root stick. please dont flame me im only trying to help and cant accept the fact that we cant root anymore .
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holySh!t that was funny LOL..... Classic, that was too good
Flame on!!
i gota admit it was funny but what did you guys think i know all the devs are hard at work but do you think it would work, once they find a way in the system.
you didn't have to make a new thread man. You could've just posted this in the G2 Root Thinktank thread (which is on thread #2 already) where many good developers and program buffs are collaborating to achieve Root. You won't get too many helpful replies like this. Just go into the thread and put in your 2 sense. Someone's bound to expand on your idea (hopefully).
that didnt work man thats why i had to make a new thread just so i can be heard
Idk, sounds to me like that might permanently break it
Don't forget to bring a towel
just modify the system memory not take every thing out . or atleast find where its backed up on the memory and delte it
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just modify the system memory not take every thing out . or atleast find where its backed up on the memory and delte it
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But dude, that won't work. T-Mobile already admitted that a root-kit restores the system upon reboot!
i dont belive that crap they only said that to discourage us from trying.
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i dont belive that crap they only said that to discourage us from trying.
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You think they would lie? I mean, no one has found a permanent root, so there must be something to what T-Mobile is saying.
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But dude, that won't work. T-Mobile already admitted that a root-kit restores the system upon reboot!
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but dude,cyanogen already tweeted this! http://pastebin.com/cm75Z9UA
Nothing is "backed up." When you write to /system while you have temporary root, the write doesn't actually occur, but a bug makes Linux think it did, so it gets written to Linux's cache. So when the cache is flushed (like when a reboot occurs), you lose all your changes to /system.
See: http://pastebin.com/cm75Z9UA
I'm up for anything that may work, its an idea, still a long way off, without actually identifying the memory address where the recovery is stored its still a ways off, much less accessing it. Deleting or wiping it I would think would brick the device, seeing the encountered exception, not sure how it would handle it, maybe just hang at the recovery
that could be true but i think that they think we are getting closer to root so they said that to discourage us . and if we root it then all they will say it oh well we will try harder next time.
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but dude,cyanogen already tweeted this! http://pastebin.com/cm75Z9UA
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But dude, that's exactly what he's saying!
i know it might seem silly but we have to try.
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that didnt work man thats why i had to make a new thread just so i can be heard
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Wow! I bet no one ever thought of that. And your technical expertise is so obvious and overwhelming. Obviously, after this revelation everyone should just stop trying and learn to live with their phones the way they are.
You're a genius!
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Wow! I bet no one ever thought of that. And your technical expertise is so obvious and overwhelming. Obviously, after this revelation everyone should just stop trying and learn to live with their phones the way they are.
You're a genius!
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wow i really feel sorry for you . if you dont want to root you shouldnt be on this forum looking for it.
Related
RegawMOD Ported to Droid Eris
WARNING! THIS IS MY FIRST PORTED OR ROM EVER. I DONT TAKE ANY PART IN IF IT BRICKS UR PHONE.
Orginal Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661991
I hope it works for you all. I made it with the ROM Kitchen.
Not Working:
Shutting Down ( Requires a battery pull or use quick boot <-- already installed)
Change log:
Fixed WIFI
Edited build.prop
Changed defult lock ( see pic)
removed RegawMOD fro lockscreen.
Please report any issues you have.
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Remove "RegawMOD" from lockbar
Better Lockscreen
Please mirror it, im on a VM and it doesnt seem to like to upload it. :/
Thanks to tazzpatriot without him this ROM wouldnt be working
If you would like to support me on me learning of becoming a rom maker. I would apperate it Paypal: [email protected]
im checking it out now
Thanks,
Hope it all goes well
Accently Double posted :/
srry lol
flashing now
won't flash
not sure why
hmmmmm.... wierd, ill look into it, thanks rvpartsguy
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hmmmmm.... wierd, ill look into it, thanks rvpartsguy
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it gave me a build prop error
I tried to stay out of this one but its bugging me. Why would you make a ROM *with no experience as you said* and upload for the masses without even making sure it boots. You don't have the phone yes but do you have the emulator or the sdk? I'm just confused.
ok, im looking in to it, ill try to have fixed one up soon. hopefully.
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I tried to stay out of this one but its bugging me. Why would you make a ROM *with no experience as you said* and upload for the masses without even making sure it boots. You don't have the phone yes but do you have the emulator or the sdk? I'm just confused.
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Well for the Kitchen if for unexprinced people....
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Well for the Kitchen if for unexprinced people....
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i don't think that guy ever has anything positive to say ....
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i don't think that guy ever has anything positive to say ....
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maybe soo,
and also i didnt put in there u must download u must try, u do have a choice of doing it. thats not to rcpartsguy the other guy
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maybe soo,
and also i didnt put in there u must download u must try, u do have a choice of doing it. thats not to rcpartsguy the other guy
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...but at the same time, you should test it before publishing it, if for no other reason to avoid things like this.
-mak
ok, made ur point, i wont try anymore, ill upload the one i just did to see if it fixed, if rvpartsguy wants to test, it or anyone eles,
but yeah thanks for the support guys.
......
i had to change out the usr folder from another rom and chaged the update to desirec to make it work, once i did that seemed to load ok and seem to work pretty good , im not a dev but it works
TopazAaron said:
ok, made ur point, i wont try anymore, ill upload the one i just did to see if it fixed, if rvpartsguy wants to test, it or anyone eles,
but yeah thanks for the support guys.
......
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Just take it in stride, a lot of people on here want things asap, but if it doesn't work you'll get grilled for it and can be discouraging..
Keep working on it and try to drown the negatives out, I mean you did give a warning that it was untested at least...
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that'd all I was saying is that it should have been tested
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i had to change out the usr folder from another rom and chaged the update to desirec to make it work, once i did that seemed to load ok and seem to work pretty good , im not a dev but it works
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u think u could pm me with the files and stuff? i would really appreacte that.
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u think u could pm me with the files and stuff? i would really appreacte that.
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i just sent u a messege how to do it ,,like i said im not a dev but it worked for me, after i changed everything i ran it through the kitchen but im not sure if u need to
I heard a while ago that if you root your droid x wrong/at all you will turn it into a brick and not be able to unlock it in anyway. Is this still true? I want to be sure I didn't pay 150$ for something that I am going to potentially turn useless.
There is always the slight possibility that any phone can be bricked, if you're too concerned about bricking your phone just leave well enough alone. No harm no foul right.
The Z4 root seems pretty fool proof, its mainly when you start doing themes and others hacks that you can really screw things up since you're messing with more files.
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There is always the slight possibility that any phone can be bricked, if you're too concerned about bricking your phone just leave well enough alone. No harm no foul right.
The Z4 root seems pretty fool proof, its mainly when you start doing themes and others hacks that you can really screw things up since you're messing with more files.
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Is bricking it reversible or is it a permanent state that is impossible to get out of?
Amnorias said:
Is bricking it reversible or is it a permanent state that is impossible to get out of?
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It it possible to turn a brick into an electronic device?
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But in all seriousness, a true brick can not be reversed.
its very safe go for it. u r missing out on so much
I haven't heard of anyone bricking their phone by rooting... i used z4root...as long as you follow the directions while themeing your phone or flashing new roms i feel its pretty hard to brick your phone... each dev has instructions for flashing their rom and they seem to be all the same... some might not require you to wipe system as the rom will do that while its installing.. there are even videos on youtube for flashing roms... now if you did brick your phone you would have to sbf your phone and there are instruction on doing that online as well... you just gotta go for it as i think flashing a new rom is well worth it regardless of the rom you flash....
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qman66 said:
its very safe go for it. u r missing out on so much
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Yes and no... I believe what most people are trying to express here, is there are plenty of benefits to rooting your phone. However, if you truly are not computer/technologically savvy, I would advise you to wait before rooting. Do some reading around on the forums here. I feel like there have been a lot of people lately who have tried to root their phones, and make modifications to their phones that are a little over their head.
While yes, many times there are great instructions to follow so even those who are not super familiar with android or technology can still get by... But with that, many of the modifications involve doing some tasks that can be done (e.g. typing in a command wrong) that can result in damage to your phone.
I don't write this to deter you from wanting to modify your Droid X, don't get me wrong. I simply wish you the best with your modifications and advise you to do some research before jumping in head first.
Good luck, and if you have questions, feel free to ask. There are plenty of people here who are more than happy to help =)
Do a bootstrap recovery first, install z4root, enjoy.... I didn't understand all this when I started ether, if you look up rooting droid x on youtube there are step by step videos to help you.
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I think most people get in trouble when they really start digging deep into the system files and don't know what they are doing. Flashing roms can be a bit scarry with a locked bootloader like the dx has. I suggest that you read all you can about the subject first, that helped me get comfortable with the whole process before I did it. Now I'm glad I did root. Z4 root is super easy, one touch, no computer needed pm me if you need the file.
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Peichor said:
Do a bootstrap recovery first, install z4root, enjoy.... I didn't understand all this when I started ether, if you look up rooting droid x on youtube there are step by step videos to help you.
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so you can backup your phone BEFORE being rooted?
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so you can backup your phone BEFORE being rooted?
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You can I think download titanium backup , they have a free edition that does basic and a paid edition. Also I think you can go into the moto tools at boot and make a backup.
I know there are 2 methods mentioned here for rooting XXLS8 but this one is different
for this method , we gonna use SiyahKernel S2-v6.0beta4 which is originally done for XXLSJ ( leaked 4.1.2 )
but it's totally working for this Rom,too, I tested it and it's perfect !
Grab the kernel from here here
flash via odin , download here
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Credits :: Siyah for the kernel
Why do you feel the need to make a new thread to share this amazing find of yours?
And my friend does this give you custom clockwork mod? also is there any yellow triangles? thanks:good:
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And my friend does this give you custom clockwork mod? also is there any yellow triangles? thanks:good:
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it has touch clockworkmod and yes it shows yellow triangle on booting.
oinkylicious said:
Why do you feel the need to make a new thread to share this amazing find of yours?
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you need to shut your ass, and get out of here
J.Rawand said:
you need to shut your ass, and get out of here
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it's common knowledge though and a new thread wasn't necessary.
AW: Root XXLS8 ( easy way )
oinkylicious said:
Why do you feel the need to make a new thread to share this amazing find of yours?
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+1
lol @ OP :thumbdown:
Greetz
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Sandwiches said:
it's common knowledge though and a new thread wasn't necessary.
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for you may be, but there are a lot who don't know this,
I don't care to what is written over my name, what you call it, senior, junior, elite, etc...
I came here to share with those who don't, and if you don't like it, don't rule others you and everyone else like you
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for you may be, but there are a lot who don't know this,
I don't care to what is written over my name, what you call it, senior, junior, elite, etc...
I came here to share with those who don't, and if you don't like it, don't rule others you and everyone else like you
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I agree with you. . It helped me mate
. . Thank you
And there are few who think that people are born with infinite knowledge. .
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Hi, There are a few ways to root which are easy.
If you want to keep the stock kernel you could use this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2116549
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I thought everyone knew this way, but anyway.
Is there a way I can root my phone make some customizations and than un-root it again.
s2fanboy said:
I agree with you. . It helped me mate
. . Thank you
And there are few who think that people are born with infinite knowledge. .
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thank you bro, glad I can help
agronademi89 said:
I thought everyone knew this way, but anyway.
Is there a way I can root my phone make some customizations and than un-root it again.
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I don't think so, because every customization that you do will require root permission
and it will work when the phone is rooted, so when you un-root the phone
the customization will be gone.
agronademi89 said:
I thought everyone knew this way, but anyway.
Is there a way I can root my phone make some customizations and than un-root it again.
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Your customisation won't necessarily disappear, but the functionality will probably stop, with many mods requiring rooting in the first place. Anyway, why would you want to unroot after going to the bother of rooting and customising? The alterations possible are endless!
pixelhub said:
Hi, There are a few ways to root which are easy.
If you want to keep the stock kernel you could use this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2116549
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you're right I already saw that post, it's another easy way
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Why do you feel the need to make a new thread to share this amazing find of yours?
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I do not know, Though one thing I will do is congratulate this person on presenting something in plain and straight forward english that is understandable .. compared to some procedures i have seen explained on these forums.. .LOL :laugh:
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True indeed and worth a thanks. When I had the S3, the very first thing I made sure I had beside a nandroid, was an EFS backup.
I flash the BTU rom when it was still using the old Radio version.. I let it update using KIES.. and when I saw.. I was running the new version.. and had no backup of my EFS..
now I have several backups of it.. so I believe I'm ok.. but I can never go back..
and this was not caused by a lack of reading the stick posts :crying:
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this was not caused by a lack of reading the stick posts :crying:
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Well it's discussed at length in the sticky posts, so if it wasn't for lack if reading, you must have been one of the "early adopters" to flash MG* rom.
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Glad I'm not on Samsung anymore and have to deal with the EFS drama lol
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Well it's discussed at length in the sticky posts, so if it wasn't for lack if reading, you must have been one of the "early adopters" to flash MG* rom.
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Like I said, I updated it using KIES.. I was not even reading XDA when I did it.. there was no warning.. I flashed an old, from 2012, ROM on the BTU CSC and after that started to update it using KIES, no custom recovery, no ODIN, nothing.
It was when I decided to use a modified touchwiz rom that I found this.. but that would be too late for me.. anyway.. my phone is working.. I have no problem with it and now I have several EFS backups..
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Glad I'm not on Samsung anymore and have to deal with the EFS drama lol
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I wish I could do the same.. but.. compared to other ROMs we see floating around on other devices.. the modified ones we have here are pretty good..
DiReis said:
Like I said, I updated it using KIES.. I was not even reading XDA when I did it.. there was no warning..
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There wouldn't need to be warnings. KIES is the official method to update the phone and KIES does not go backwards. Anything outside of KIES or official OTA is unofficial and not supported.
DiReis said:
no custom recovery, no ODIN, nothing.
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I'm not sure of the relevancy of that.
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There wouldn't need to be warnings. KIES is the official method to update the phone and KIES does not go backwards. Anything outside of KIES or official OTA is unofficial and not supported.
I'm not sure of the relevancy of that.
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I had no warning from the Forums.. that's what I meant.. gimme a break man.. It's almost like you want to say: you are stupid.. you earned this.. anyway..
also, regarding Odin and custom recovery.. usually those who uses that comes here.. and.. sometimes.. they READ.. like I did when I started flashing custom ROMs on my S3
peace man..
If Kies didn't throw out any warnings, then OP really isn't to blame.
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I had no warning from the Forums.. that's what I meant.. gimme a break man.. It's almost like you want to say: you are stupid.. you earned this.. anyway..
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Not at all. If you're using KIES, none of this is relevant. That's all I'm saying. You wouldn't need warning because it doesn't affect you.
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sometimes.. they READ
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Only sometimes. ...and that's what this thread is about.
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peace man..
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Peace. I still don't understand your argument though.
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Not at all. If you're using KIES, none of this is relevant. That's all I'm saying. You wouldn't need warning because it doesn't affect you.
Only sometimes. ...and that's what this thread is about.
Peace. I still don't understand your argument though.
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I totally agree with OP and with you.. my arguments are: I was not aware of this issue because I was running the stock rom and it updated without I knowing that this was going to happen, just that
and I wish I was following XDA forums, because I would be able to predict that and make a backup.. just that
I believe I might not be the only user on that position here on the forums.. we started modding after the stock ROM was installed by Sammy on our phones..
When I bought my phone and it supposed to deliver at my office after 2 days. within 2 days I learned and downloaded almost everything which was necessary. I was able to do that ONLY BECAUSE OF this good forum. and I have never had any problems with my phone. I am keep flashing my phone every time someone will release new ROM with good features. and kernels as well.
So I also totally agree with OP...:laugh::angel:
All ya hafta do is Kingoroot it via PC and u done!:good::good::good::good::good:
I'll try it - post your results in this tread people.
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All ya hafta do is Kingoroot it via PC and u done!:good::good::good::good::good:
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Doesn't work - give us information like where you downloaded it from. Are you sure you were not on Fire OS 5.3.1?
I dunno then. I probably am on 5.3.1
This might explain why kingroot has been telling me for nearly a day I have root. I've forced stopped it, cleared cache and data, uninstalled and sometimes it still tells me I have root. However, I haven't connected to the PC to try that way since the new release. BTW no I don't have root...yet.
EDIT: Just tried. No root via PC. Did they do another update in the last 12 or so hours?
See...this is what I have been seeing for pretty much the last 24 hours or so:
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No worries though. I am not root yet
tried latest kingroot 5.20 but it doesnt work for me on fire os 5.3.3.0
You guys take the bait way too easily.
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You guys take the bait way too easily.
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indeed
Technocian said:
You guys take the bait way too easily.
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Right. Let's just assume everyone is a troll. He very well could've rooted an older version. Maybe not. Everyone here had 4 posts at one point.
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Right. Let's just assume everyone is a troll. He very well could've rooted an older version. Maybe not. Everyone here had 4 posts at one point.
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well the topic states he found root for FireOs 5.3.3.0 but he did not deliver any proof, also serveral people tested (me including) and cant confirm. so in this instance its probably safe to say OP is a troll.
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well the topic states he found root for FireOs 5.3.3.0 but he did not deliver any proof, also serveral people tested (me including) and cant confirm. so in this instance its probably safe to say OP is a troll.
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Older versions can be rooted via Kingroot.
l8ixk said:
well the topic states he found root for FireOs 5.3.3.0 but he did not deliver any proof, also serveral people tested (me including) and cant confirm. so in this instance its probably safe to say OP is a troll.
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Really? OP got a little excited and posted what he believed to be a 'win'. A day later he acknowledged the error (kinda). The following sums it up nicely:
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...Everyone here had 4 posts at one point.
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Mud slinging serves no purpose; we all make mistakes. Chill.
Davey126 said:
Really? OP got a little excited and posted what he believed to be a 'win'. A day later he acknowledged the error (kinda). The following sums it up nicely:
Mud slinging serves no purpose; we all make mistakes. Chill.
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well i used the wrong wording by calling op a troll. that was not my intention. although in the end it doesnt really matter if it was intentional or just a mistake by op.
peace
Question...does anyone know what signatures the bootloader accepts on Amazon tablets? I know they are supposed to be official. But what is defined as such...example: Would it accept a signature from Google?
DragonFire1024 said:
Question...does anyone know what signatures the bootloader accepts on Amazon tablets? I know they are supposed to be official. But what is defined as such...example: Would it accept a signature from Google?
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No. Only from Amazon as far as we know.
savvytechwinner said:
No. Only from Amazon as far as we know.
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Modify an APK. Run an exploit that way. Trick the CPU into installing an app it still thinks is 'official.' not sure how to gain root that way, but maybe we could modify an APK to be able to reinstall on /sdcard/ so it can uninstall itself. It's not root, but would at least get rid of the apps for a period.
DragonFire1024 said:
Modify an APK. Run an exploit that way. Trick the CPU into installing an app it still thinks is 'official.' not sure how to gain root that way, but maybe we could modify an APK to be able to reinstall on /sdcard/ so it can uninstall itself. It's not root, but would at least get rid of the apps for a period.
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You can't modify the apk without it modifying Amazon's signature. You can't reinstall system apps either in Fire OS 5.3.3 and above. Although you might be able to for one app, but I am not holding my breath.
savvytechwinner said:
You can't modify the apk without it modifying Amazon's signature. You can't reinstall system apps either in Fire OS 5.3.3 and above. Although you might be able to for one app, but I am not holding my breath.
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I might have a way, but it isn't pretty. And I learned recently that some think it to be even more unethical than what we are already doing. So I won't post here.
DragonFire1024 said:
I might have a way, but it isn't pretty. And I learned recently that some think it to be even more unethical than what we are already doing. So I won't post here.
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Sure, what's your way? I might be able to help you out.
If we can read the signature from a stock rom and apply it to SuperSU.zip we could flash it through stock recovery