Is it even worth it to root right now? - Fascinate General

What would be the benefits of rooting right now? I just have the urge to mess with my phone for some reason.

Having root access to the phone...getting rid of bloatware...having root access apps...flashing one of the lighter ROMs we already have...being ready to flash a froyo ROM as soon as it hits...toying with the phone...lots!
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Interesting, I guess I'll root today. What themes and roms are currently available? And anyone know when the "real" lag fix is coming?

Theres a couple different themes in the themes forum...nothing that appeals to me. Theres also a very nicely cleaned up rom in the dev forum. Install clockwork and check that out
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In your opinion what is the best rooting guide to follow? There are a couple out there.

the sticky in the development section lol

Yeah I went to one click root. Followed the link to Android Central and followed the manual directions listed there.
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Voodoo. Read the development section. Life changing.

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Voodoo. Read the development section. Life changing.
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It's out now?!?!

Found it!
I'm guessing we just flash this the same way I used to flash stuff on my droid? No need to rename to update.zip since I'm using clockwork, correct?

I dont understand why people want voodoo...what does it change?
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it changes the /system to ext4 format from FAT(i believe it is) which is much much faster on system read and writesso makes phone run way smooth
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Just flashed voodoo. HUGE difference!

If i flash voodoo would i be able to switch back if the need arose?
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Rooted, Clockwork, Titanium Pro worth every penny (froze all things crap), voodooed.
Battery life and spiffyness is sweet. At 75% battery when at this point in the day I would be at 35 to 45%. Do it. Just make sure you read and read more. Coming from years of winmo this android stuff was definitely a huge learning experience.
good day.

there are a lot of apps for rooted phones, and you are able to flash clockworkmod so you can use it to install roms and make backups, and more....
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Just getting rid of bing is worth it.
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So I just rooted

Hey,
So I just rooted my DX. I have milestone overclocker and titanium backup as well as ROM manager and wireless tether.Now what do I do ? I'm sorry for being a complete noob but I'm eager to learn. I have heard a little about flashing custom ROMs and was just wondering if there was one that is like Gingerbread (2.3) out for the DX. I just got this phone a month ago and I ready to jump on the Rooting Wagon
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Hey,
So I just rooted my DX. I have milestone overclocker and titanium backup as well as ROM manager and wireless tether.Now what do I do ? I'm sorry for being a complete noob but I'm eager to learn. I have heard a little about flashing custom ROMs and was just wondering if there was one that is like Gingerbread (2.3) out for the DX. I just got this phone a month ago and I ready to jump on the Rooting Wagon
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I would recommend looking around the Droid X android development forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=691
Here is where you will find a lot of the discussion and posts from Developers about their ROM's. I think Fission (latest is 2.5.7) has a gingerbread theme set up. I believe there are others as well.
When it comes to ROM's its really a personal decision. In my opinion, all the bigs ones (Rubix, Fission, Liberty, Cobalt, GummyJar, Tranquility, Apex) are all AMAZING roms. It's really just what you like the feel of... I personally use Liberty 1.0 right now. Its a combination of Kejar31 and Jrummy's work. There is a "new" dev team, phoenixdevs, that will be picking up the GEM series that cvpcs (one of the most amazing android developers ever) had been doing.
To start, just make sure you have a nandroid backup from Koush's recovery, and then try out the different ROM's you are interested in and see what you like best.
If I can make a recommendation about themes...check out Bignadad's themes... He does work for Rubix, Liberty, and GummyJar. Here is his latest work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896403
If you have more questions, feel free to ask!
Thank you so much. You are such a big help. I have rom manager and did a backup but I was wondering how do I get nandroid?
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Thank you so much. You are such a big help. I have rom manager and did a backup but I was wondering how do I get nandroid?
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No problem. You can grab it from the attachment below =)
then just move it to your phones sdcard. Use a file manager like Astro File Manager (free on the market) to browse on your sdcard. Press on the .apk file and then press the install option.
Then in your application menu, find the app, then click the first option (this hijacks the boot process the same way that ROM manager does). ROM manager has a built in version of this app and does the same thing. I just prefer to do it through Koush's app personally.
After you click the top button a pop up should come up with the word success (press this). Then click reboot recovery. From there, use the volume up/down buttons to move the green cursor that highlights the options, and use the camera button to select. Go down to Backup and Restore (press camera button to select), then press camera button when Backup is highlighted. (I am merely suggesting how I do it, as I don't rely on ROM manager for much personally. that and I dont remember how ROM manager manages backups... LoL).
It will do its thing, then bring you back to the main menu when it is finished. Click the camera button on "reboot system now" and you now have a working backup. They are stored on your sdcard in the following hierarchy: /sdcard/clockworkmod/backups
Then you just use that same menu if you ever want to restore using the restore option instead of backup =D
I also use Koush's app to install my custom ROM"s and themes as well. You just go down to the option that is something like "install .zip from sdcard" and then you can browse your sdcard for any ROM/theme/mod you have downloaded and saved there...
Hope this helps! Ask if you have more questions, I'm glad to help =)
Wow you made this sound so simple that I just did a nandroid backup on my phone for the first time! I have had my X now for about 4 months its been rooted since day one but I've never had the courage to go forward with roms. So is it really that simple , just dl the rom and flash it with Koushs bootstrap? If I flash a rom but want to update via ota to gingerbread I would just flash my nandroid using the flash rom from. Zip option? Im excited to start with roms I never ralized it was this easy to get back to stock!
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Also do you have to use titanium backup to backup apps to use in new rom, or can you use what is in the nandroid to reinstall apps on rom?
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Thanks in advance
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owenbeals said:
Wow you made this sound so simple that I just did a nandroid backup on my phone for the first time! I have had my X now for about 4 months its been rooted since day one but I've never had the courage to go forward with roms. So is it really that simple , just dl the rom and flash it with Koushs bootstrap? If I flash a rom but want to update via ota to gingerbread I would just flash my nandroid using the flash rom from. Zip option? Im excited to start with roms I never ralized it was this easy to get back to stock!
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Yes it really can be that simple. just keep track of any backups you make, and always restore back to a clean nanroid for when OTA's come out, and you should be good. Just make sure if an OTA comes out and the bootloader version gets updated, don't go back to a nandroid with a different bootloader...you will brick your phone.
Example: on old ota (2.3.15) and update to 2.3.34. Then try to go back to 2.3.15=brick =(
Thanks this is great and so helpful
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Thankyou!!
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Do you have to zip the nandroid for the file to work to restore the phone? Im sport that im such a newb
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Do you have to zip the nandroid for the file to work to restore the phone? Im sport that im such a newb
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Nope, the recovery from koush saves it in a recognizable format for you. Just leave it as is =)
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Thanks again! Liberty will be flashed to my phone this evening!
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owenbeals said:
Thanks again! Liberty will be flashed to my phone this evening!
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No problem, glad to help
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I flashed liberty and I'm lovin it! I can't figure out how to get Google nav back?
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owenbeals said:
I flashed liberty and I'm lovin it! I can't figure out how to get Google nav back?
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Go to Android Market, and download Google Maps
Sweeeet! One more thing would make this perfect. Can I get the 3g hotspots app anywhere? I can't seem to get my ps3 concted via wifi tether.
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Sweeeet! One more thing would make this perfect. Can I get the 3g hotspots app anywhere? I can't seem to get my ps3 concted via wifi tether.
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Depends on what you mean by 3g hotspot. There is "wireless tether for root" in the market for free. This allows you to tether using your 3g signal. The default Verizon app (don't think it is in Liberty...) requires a paid service... People have found hacks to get by this, but I don't recommend it, since it is cheating the service provider (Verizon) out of money if you hack their app.
I see no problem with wireless tether for root tho! Totally a dev's own work to get free tethering.
Thanks
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I have been unable to root my DX, can you tell me where you got your information on rooting?

Unrooting from.....

I just traded some one an HD7 for this MyTouch 4G.... Yayyy, back to Android ! Well, they already have it rooted and everything, but I like to start from scratch when I am modding my phones. I am coming from a Cliq so I'm not familiar with HTC. How should I go about unrooting the phone? And where should I start in the forum while trying to get familiar with modding this phone?
If it's already rooted, why unroot it? I would just make sure the latest recovery is installed, wipe it, and flash whatever ROM you want.
I'd you are looking to mod it... then you want to keep it rooted.
Its a good thing. You can even run the stock rom and make backups of all your apps and settings.
Root is good!
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I think he just wants to unroot it to gain the experience on this platform...
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I think he just wants to unroot it to gain the experience on this platform...
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Correct. I would like to start from root and unroot it and know what the whole entire process is for this phone.
Any help out there? =P
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Any help out there? =P
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Look in the development section... there are many threads with step by step instructions. Search is your friend.
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search PD15IMG. Sets you back to stock and unroot.
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search PD15IMG. Sets you back to stock and unroot.
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+1....As Rockstarar said, the pd15img makes you go back to being unrooted. The pd15img is the stock OS image and the thread will on that will explain how to flash it.
After that I'd say check out the "Guide to permaroot" thread, that will explain the process in getting rooted permanently. Next you should check out the thread for clockworkmod Recovery 3.0.0.6, thats a version that enables us to flash both 2.2 and 2.3 base roms. Alot of ppl miss that thread and end up using the wrong recovery to flash roms and as a result they get boot loops.
After that you're good to go! Got alot of options in the development section to choose from, so pick ur poison
I remember when I jus started this thing I had no clue where to start so that should give you a nice guideline on how to get going
Thanks!! I can't wait to get started =P.
Good luck!

Need some help from the Droid people

I have friend that has a Droid X and she wants me to root it for her to help her with her battery life. I have a rooted HTC Inspire and it's crazy how much my battery has improved w/ rooting, custom ROMs, and using SetCPU. After looking around in your forums, I've noticed that even though they're both Android phones they are completely different in the wrold of how to root. I have a few questions and hope you can help me out.
1. What is easiest way to root? I see somethings about z4root, but not sure since it's no longer in the market. I have noticed that this phone is about 1,000 times easier to root than my Inspire was.
2. I see that you guys have no luck w/ ROM Manager. Why and what should I be using for the Droid. The guys in HTC and Inspire forums swear by ROM Manager and I've had nothing but luck with it.
3. Since there are dedicated webpages to the Droids, can I find more ROMs there as it seems there aren't as many choices here for the Droid X as there are in the Inspire forum.
Thank you for the help.
Is she running on Gingerbread? If so, there is currently no root method except to SBF to Froyo, root that with a tool such as z4root, then download and install a pre-rooted version of gingerbread available online.
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The X is a relatively simple phone to work with as far as root is concerned. Like the previous poster said, if she has taken the latest update, you'll have a few extra steps, but its still pretty easy. As far as Rom Manager goes, it works great for the X, but you have to use the Droid X bootstrapper in order to use it successfully. The biggest factor for the X is that the boot loader is locked, so while we can run custom roms, we don't have the same freedom as other phones. Everything you need to know about rooting is pretty easy to find in these forums, so have fun.
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Is she running on Gingerbread? If so, there is currently no root method except to SBF to Froyo, root that with a tool such as z4root, then download and install a pre-rooted version of gingerbread available online.
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that about sums it up lol. if on froyo z4 is quick and painless
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As get as ROMs go can you guys point met in the direction of Blur based ones. I know she's going to want to keep it blur based because that's what she's used to.
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imho i wasnt to fobd of the roms i found. i personally had to many probs, but thats my phone and im on cricket so i need the stock progmenu apks lol. but rubix was really good. and alot of ppl like. liberty w/blur. or u could try the prerooted gb. runs really nice. maybe u could get it working better than me lol.
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I sbf back to froyo using rsdlite. Then I rooted using z4root, droid 2 bootstrapper, and flashed Liberty 2.0.1, which is a froyo build rom. Liberty is now in the early builds of a GB based version, but I hear it's buggy right now. 2.0.1 runs like a dream! It's about 20 times faster than my stock DX has EVER been, and I haven't had a reboot yet. I kept my launcher, Open Home 6 so I could keep the home screen settings like I had them, and I'm still using Widget Locker to keep my lock screen custom..
thx for the info. think i will check it out
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Gingerbread Roms for Android 2.2

Hey guys!
I would like to know the best, least bugest, stablest gingerbread like Roms for our vibrants! If you have the answer then please help!
Thanks!
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I like miui
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Look for the ROM thread that has the most number of pages, or look in the Q&A sections.
By the way this question should be posted in the Q&A section, and you should read the forum posting rules.
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Look for the ROM thread that has the most number of pages, or look in the Q&A sections.
By the way this question should be posted in the Q&A section, and you should read the forum posting rules.
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I agree with this. But personally, I'd go with asgard. It's been the most stable and battery friendly in my opinion.
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I like miui
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Second that! Oh and yeah bad place to put this. Actually this question get's asked a lot, yet there is no definitive answer it seems?... I believe it is all about personal preference. MIUI seems to have a great balance of everything I could want in a phone and super user friendly customization. I searched a month for a rom... Tried most 2.3.x and while they all offer something and are greatly appreciated... I just so happen to like MIUI the best. Goodluck!
Cm7 is what many people go for, but if you google the things you can do in MIUI, then you will see it offers the most features. The non stock version that nickminn updates every friday seems to be better than any other 2.3.5 rom I have seen otherwise.. but they all have bugs, reduced battery life versus 2.2.x, and barely or non working gps.
The bugs I still had when I stopped using it a few weeks ago: media button on headphones doesn't work, if listening to music when you get a call and you answer, the music will continue to play, you have to restart it after charging(at least after long charges) or it will not go into deep sleep, and occasional sd card issues(my music player would too often not be able to find the music).. the plus side is all of the features: the notification bar being customizable and shortcuts to each toggle, the ability to theme EACH part of the UI individually, the built in backup/restore, the battery tracking, the device data usage app, the multi touch drag/drop and tons more.
Also I was getting 16-20 hours under heavy/moderate use which is the best I have seen on any ginger rom including cm7.. on ANY 2.3.5 rom you need to use cpu spy to make sure it goes into deep sleep to have good battery.
Hope this helps.. there is a large trade off using any gingerbread rom until we get the source code-- I went back to 2.2.1 because EVERYTHING works, and I simply can't kill it in 24 hours unless I TRY.. I get 24-48 hours per charge. I miss the features of MIUI, but not enough for the costs-- most of the differences between 2.2 and 2.3 is mostly cosmetic in the end.
I think he means 2.2 roms that look like GB. In that case, try Bionix 1.3.1. It should be easy to find.
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I think he means 2.2 roms that look like GB. In that case, try Bionix 1.3.1. It should be easy to find.
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Yes exactly!
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Yes exactly!
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Ya bionix 1.3.1 ginger edition is by far the best rom for the vibrant if its your main phone. I have cm 7 on mine now... if i didnt upgrade to a sensation 4g id still be rockin bionix though.
Flash it and enjoy the butter
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hev88 said:
Ya bionix 1.3.1 ginger edition is by far the best rom for the vibrant if its your main phone. I have cm 7 on mine now... if i didnt upgrade to a sensation 4g id still be rockin bionix though.
Flash it and enjoy the butter
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Hey bro! Can you please help me flash it because I tried it! Can you give me step by step tutorial? Please thanks!
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why would you want a 2.2 rom that looks like 2.3 when you can have 2.3?
that's like body kitting a car to look like a ferrari when you can just get a ferrari... sure the ferrari may get worse gas mileage, but it's still definitely worth it.
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why would you want a 2.2 rom that looks like 2.3 when you can have 2.3?
that's like body kitting a car to look like a ferrari when you can just get a ferrari... sure the ferrari may get worse gas mileage, but it's still definitely worth it.
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Where can I have 2.3 Roms? You tell me man!
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Hey bro! Can you please help me flash it because I tried it! Can you give me step by step tutorial? Please thanks!
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Root. Install rom manager. Install vibrant recovery via rom manager. Download bionix 1.3.1. Reboot into recovery. Clear cache and and dalvik cache. Install zip from sd card. First boot takes a bit and your phone starys talking saying its enabling vodoo lagfix. And then you are done
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Where can I have 2.3 Roms? You tell me man!
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I use CM 7.1.0.1 on my vibrant. its the latest stable build. You have to install vibrant mtd recovery via rom manager. You can also download cm or other ginger roms from there... gapps too
However if you do go to ginger you have to odin back to stock if you wanna return to froyo
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Where can I have 2.3 Roms? You tell me man!
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cm7, miui, and there are plenty of others. cm7 is as easy as odin to jfd, root, install rom manager, flash cm7 and the gapps. miui should be the same. for any of the samsung i9k based roms you want/have to flash new bootloaders (at least that was the case last time i used one).
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Root. Install rom manager. Install vibrant recovery via rom manager. Download bionix 1.3.1. Reboot into recovery. Clear cache and and dalvik cache. Install zip from sd card. First boot takes a bit and your phone starys talking saying its enabling vodoo lagfix. And then you are done
I use CM 7.1.0.1 on my vibrant. its the latest stable build. You have to install vibrant mtd recovery via rom manager. You can also download cm or other ginger roms from there... gapps too
However if you do go to ginger you have to odin back to stock if you wanna return to froyo
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I did all that but whenever I go in recovery, it takes me to regular recovery. I need help in that!
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L1LK1LLERZ said:
I did all that but whenever I go in recovery, it takes me to regular recovery. I need help in that!
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I dont rememver what it says on it exactly but that happened to me too a few times. i domt remember if i had to boot into recovery manually with volume down+power or cliked one of the options a few times. I dont remember what the options are so if yoi can post or pm me a pic of what they are it might refresh my memory lol... its been a while
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I did all that but whenever I go in recovery, it takes me to regular recovery. I need help in that!
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if you installed clockwork recovery and you are getting the stock recovery, you need to hit 'reinstall packages' (sometimes twice).
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if you installed clockwork recovery and you are getting the stock recovery, you need to hit 'reinstall packages' (sometimes twice).
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Thats what it was... lol. I could not remembwr what it was for the life of me
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In that cas zendroid with his gb theme that is in the thread I actually prefer his vanilla aosp theme which is also in his thread. Way more up to date then bionix. Best 2.2 imho don't look back.
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Help, noob interested in cyanogenmod

Never rooted before and dying to have the Google experience on my GS4. Can somebody just tell me the steps I need to know. Recommendations would be awesome!
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Step one, read beerdroids "how to" guide on root, flash, etc. Look in the general forum
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Here it is if you're too lazy to look it up:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314494
jd1639 said:
Step one, read beerdroids "how to" guide on root, flash, etc. Look in the general forum
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Nuff said.
these are threads that help me get thru a work day--
awesome guys. Im thinking of using casual to root
Worked fine for me
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I'm officially rooted!
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Congrats
Make nandroid NOW and put a copy on your pc
Read Read Read
I always read OP of Rom thread and first/last 20 pages before flashing--sometimes more
Yeah I backed it up on my SD card, next onto the computer. Now I need to work on cyanogenmod
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OK guys I've learned a lot in the past 12 hours. I appreciate all of the help. My question, is it easier just to download cyanogenmod on the rom manager app than downloading it thru the website?
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I would just go to the thread in the Original Development section on this forum, follow the direct link and download the latest nightly - I have experience with other devices but, after die research on here, bought my S4 this evening and had CM running ten minutes after I got home. You can do it too!
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Good deal, you graduated No seriously, download it direct from the site. This insures a good copy. Very easy setup, so go for it.
The Ax says Good luck and Good day!
Hey guys, what do you do with the AT&T over the air update? Disable?
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freeze the att updater with Titanium
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freeze the att updater with Titanium
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Now as far as any OTA updates i want/need, what is the protocol in getting them?
You can't get them on a custom rom
I forget what I read on a custom recovery and rooted--getting older--
I think you need to go back to stock--someone can confirm
I haven't Googled that yet either
There were some rootkeeper apps that were used on my other phones, don't know what works here
I never took OTA's after rooted and flashing my other phones as dev's seemed to have updates faster than my carrier
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Now as far as any OTA updates i want/need, what is the protocol in getting them?
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Generally, the newer firmware versions that get pushed out as OTA updates will be incorporated into custom Touchwiz roms, such as ShoStock and Mint Jelly. However, if you flash CyanogenMod or any other AOSP-based rom such as SlimBean or AOKP, OTA updates will be completely meaningless. It's a different world altogether.
Either way, my advice is the same: Don't mess with OTA's. At best, they could give you the same features as a custom rom. At worst, they could kill the Loki exploit and lock your bootloader for good.

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