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So I'm trying hard to keep my phone from getting even one scratch until my cases come in, which should be any day now.....
....then today I freakin' drop it on the concrete by accident.
I feel like $#!t ...my heart sank.... damn it!!!
BUT, on the bright side I am very surprised on how well it took the hit. The phone dropped and actually rolled a couple of times, yet it only marked up the plastic/metal looking trim that goes around the phone.
By any chance do you think the rim piece would be available later for a replacement part? Gosh I sure hope so. I'm desperate to go rip off the trim at the T-Mobile store
...I keep telling myself....it could have been worse right?
Bottom line: For how hard it hit the concrete, I'm impressed...since it was dark I was thinking it was going to be way worse, until I held it to the light to see the damage. Thank goodness for not a cracked screen....
BTW: I have the 3M screen protector. If it wasn't for that it would have for sure had some mean scratches on the screen....sigh..
Ouch.. I did the same with my new Touch Pro (current phone) and it also ended up with some dings on the sides, but that phone's partially metal with a plastic screen.
Since one of the frequent criticisms of this series of phones is the build quality, glad it looks like the Vibrant's made pretty well after all if it can survive that with only cosmetic damage.
you should put a warning in the title, those pics are way to graphic.
:'(
Mithent said:
Ouch.. I did the same with my new Touch Pro (current phone) and it also ended up with some dings on the sides, but that phone's partially metal with a plastic screen.
Since one of the frequent criticisms of this series of phones is the build quality, glad it looks like the Vibrant's made pretty well after all if it can survive that with only cosmetic damage.
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Yea I agree that the Vibrant is well made. I've read a lot of some people commenting on the material and all, but obviously they have no idea how well the made it is. Heck, I'm kind of glad it wasn't heavy and bulky.....
"THE heavier they are the harder they fall..."
Kudos Vibrant....just can't wait to put a case on it to mask the scars....Soldier.
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you should put a warning in the title, those pics are way to graphic.
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I know brother....I'm slowly getting over it though.... I can't wait until my black case comes in so I can put it on. At least I won't see the scars....
I dropped mine on the sidewalk few days ago and it just scratched up the top of the back lid so I just swapped it. My heart stopped for 2 minutes and I was afraid to look at my screen because when I dropped my hd2 it shattered the screen
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iunlock said:
BTW: I have the 3M screen protector. If it wasn't for that it would have for sure had some mean scratches on the screen....sigh..
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Does the 3m screen protector reduce the quality of the SAMOLED screen a lot, or make it sticky?
Those pictures are nasty Hope you get your case soon!
OH MAN. I am week in the knees just looking at it!
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you should put a warning in the title, those pics are way to graphic.
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more like nsfw.
dam that hurt me. i just got mine last night, hope i dont do the same
A gel skin would cover those up nicely. I decided to get one in the first place because even though I love the feeling of this phone without the skin on, I hate scratches/dents a lot more.
I had a bad track record with my G1 too... dropped it like 4 times
You should link me to where you bought your screen protector. I got Tmobile generic ones, but they suck, so I bought one from eBay. What I've got was this super thick, weird feeling protector, leaves too many bubbles, sucked. Bought another one, which is identical to ones you buy at the store, works good, but doesn't cover the bottom part of the phone.
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afive720 said:
You should link me to where you bought your screen protector. I got Tmobile generic ones, but they suck, so I bought one from eBay. What I've got was this super thick, weird feeling protector, leaves too many bubbles, sucked. Bought another one, which is identical to ones you buy at the store, works good, but doesn't cover the bottom part of the phone.
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I got mine from ClearFreak via Ebay - you cannot even tell it is on, I do have one air bubble trapped and it's a bit annoying on the bottom of the screen, I always feel it when swyping
Don't be too sad. I got a screen scratch the other day. Of course its real tiny and when I point it out to others, they can't even see it. But its all I see.
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At least you got it over with. Now no more worries about dropping your phone. lol
At least you can cover it with a case, unlike scratches on a screen.
Ouch! That looks like it hurts.
Feeling Vibrant on xda-app
afive720 said:
You should link me to where you bought your screen protector. I got Tmobile generic ones, but they suck, so I bought one from eBay. What I've got was this super thick, weird feeling protector, leaves too many bubbles, sucked. Bought another one, which is identical to ones you buy at the store, works good, but doesn't cover the bottom part of the phone.
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The best one IMO is the one from clearfreak, which is the one I have. Just make sure when applying it, to follow their directions. You have to spray it with water, wet your fingers and squeegee the water out with the little tool it comes with.
It's made out of 3M and you can't even tell it's on. All the other screen protectors like the generic ones really mess up the touch response. It's not as responsive from what I've noticed. Stay away from chEapBAY if you know what I mean...those are all pieces of junk from china, hence 5x protectors for $0.99US
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I got mine from ClearFreak via Ebay - you cannot even tell it is on, I do have one air bubble trapped and it's a bit annoying on the bottom of the screen, I always feel it when swyping
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Same one I have and I love it....the 3M stuff is awesome, thank goodness if it wasn't for it I would have definitely have scratches from the fall.
You should write them and ask to exchange your screen protector. I actually got mine swapped out because I had some annoying lint on the sides and couldn't get it out so they swapped it.
disturkis4u said:
I dropped mine on the sidewalk few days ago and it just scratched up the top of the back lid so I just swapped it. My heart stopped for 2 minutes and I was afraid to look at my screen because when I dropped my hd2 it shattered the screen
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I know that feeling! My heart literally stopped....The whole freakin' world stopped LOL....
I once had an HD2 as well and that thing weighs a ton. Bigger it is the harder it falls...That phones like half glass....miserable phone.
acspin said:
Does the 3m screen protector reduce the quality of the SAMOLED screen a lot, or make it sticky?
Those pictures are nasty Hope you get your case soon!
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Very interesting you asked that because I was curious at first as well. However, I must say that once I did put it on, it didn't alter the quality at all.
As for it being sticky, I assume you mean on the surface when you glide your fingers across it right? Well...it depends if your hands are dry or not....it really doesn't bother me and I think it works fine...the only time it may be a little resistant is when your hands are sweaty. I think that would go for most all screen protectors though...
So my son knocked my G2 off the kitchen island yesterday. I didn't see it but I heard hit the tile. Upon inspection, I can't find any indication as to where it impacted. No scatches, scrapes, dents, cracks or bruises. My hinge is still tight as well. I can say that it was face down when I got to it and it was closed so I don't think the keyboard opened up.
So it seems I lucked out this time. Hope it doesn't happen again.
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thats good lol... screen still work ok?
Everything still works fine. I expected to see a huge crack across the screen but there isn't even a scratch.
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I haven't dropped mine (yet) but it's nice to know the phone might be pretty resilient!
A baby knocked mine off the table in a mall...and I have 2 very small scrapes in the metal ring on the front. However the phone still looks great, can bearly see the scrapes
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This story just reinforced the value i placed in this t-mobile gel skin i purchased.
ThaGeNeCySt said:
This story just reinforced the value i placed in this t-mobile gel skin i purchased.
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The fact that the phone is tough..? Or the fact that accidents happen? Haha.
I purchased the black gel skin yesterday, and so far I like it. No kickstand, sure, but it's much easier to grip (and much harder to get out of my pocket...), sits on surfaces without sliding, and doesn't look too bad. The phone looks sexier naked, of course, but it's not too bad.
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So my son knocked my G2 off the kitchen island yesterday. I didn't see it but I heard hit the tile. Upon inspection, I can't find any indication as to where it impacted. No scatches, scrapes, dents, cracks or bruises. My hinge is still tight as well. I can say that it was face down when I got to it and it was closed so I don't think the keyboard opened up.
So it seems I lucked out this time. Hope it doesn't happen again.
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Phew! Glad it didn't kill anything. If it were me I would have had to rush to the hospital for an immediate heart transplant.
Bishybob said:
Phew! Glad it didn't kill anything. If it were me I would have had to rush to the hospital for an immediate heart transplant.
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Yeah, I thought I might need one at first. I heard it hit and looked up and my son and wife were just looking at me in fright. I started to boil but his face made me realize it's just a phone. He didn't mean to do it. I am happy it is fine though.
When I heard it, I knew what it was immediately. It made three distinctive thumps as it hit and bounced twice. I just can't believe it didn't even leave a mark.
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A baby knocked mine off the table in a mall...and I have 2 very small scrapes in the metal ring on the front. However the phone still looks great, can bearly see the scrapes
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Glad to hear that the phones are ok!
Will definitely be careful with mine since I may just carry it butt naked with a G1 pouch case when not in use. I like the black rubber cases but not the friction - taking it out of the front pocket...
lol I dropped mine on gravel and got scared it sounded so loud and thought I had broken my new G2, when I picked it up to look for the damage I was so surprised only a tiny dent, no scratches no scrapes, very very well built
I had a coworker ask me about the phone, so when i said she could look at it, she slid the phone (no case on it) battery side down across the metal table it was on. i heard the metal on metal scrape and to say i was going to go ape **** would be putting it mildly. i didn't yell or cuss her out (in my mind i did), but she got the idea from my reaction and tone in voice that wasn't a smart move. luckily she didn't scrape it. i swear people just don't understand us (geeks)
Hi, I recently got a Desire Z and I am trying to determine if a screen protector is necessary. I've already seen a thread arguing the issue in more general terms, but my question is simple:
Has anyone here scratched their screen from normal use?
I have a 2 yr old BB Storm and the screen is still flawless without ever being protected. I just want to know if I can expect the same of the HTC.
Thanks.
Cell phone screens are definitely stonger than you would think but it wouldn't hurt to put one on right? You know, as long as you don't keep it in a pocket with coins or keys in it. I haven't scratched mine in the time I had it without the screen protector but I feel much better with it on.
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Dont't know.
The 1st thing i did was buy a screen protector don't want 2 take any chances. Please feel free 2 test your screen though & b sure 2 let us know how that works out 4 ya.
There is glass and there is GLASS!!!
This speaks for itself...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kwd3v4cgVc
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This speaks for itself...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kwd3v4cgVc
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How about a real test. Let the knife fall point first about three feet onto the screen. This way it can simulate a fall. Lets see if the glass doesn't chip. My HD2 that the same "indestructible" glass. It chipped, not cracked, the first time it feel face down on the ground. Don't take a chance, slap a screen protector on it.
I agree I also had a hd2 and was able to put some scratches on that beast. I haven't put a screen protector on the g2 its been in and out of my pocket for about a week still flawless
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How about a real test. Let the knife fall point first about three feet onto the screen. This way it can simulate a fall. Lets see if the glass doesn't chip. My HD2 that the same "indestructible" glass. It chipped, not cracked, the first time it feel face down on the ground. Don't take a chance, slap a screen protector on it.
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I managed to scratch my g2 inside the first 2 weeks. Not sure how, probably something I had in my pocket.
In contrast, I went about a year with the N1 without scratching it. I am not sure if it is mere chance or if the G2 has a less scratch resistant screen but that is my experience to date.
i never put a screen protector.
no scratches what so ever.
but of course i take care that there is nothing in my pocket together with the phone
First time I got the G2 I slapped on the Tmobiles special screen protector.
The feel is different,smoother, and you won't tell if you have it on.
The screen feels sooo...like wow smooth.
Promise you,go check it out comes with 2 inside.
Its worth it.
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There is a definite scratch in the middle of my screen, deep enough that you can catch your fingernail in it. The nice thing is that it's not noticeable when the phone is on.
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There is a definite scratch in the middle of my screen, deep enough that you can catch your fingernail in it. The nice thing is that it's not noticeable when the phone is on.
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I had the same type of scratch, deep enough that you could catch your fingernail in it, but it was higher up on the screen. I exchanged that G2 though when it stopped reading SD cards. I actually ended up fixing it before I sent it back because root came out and I was able to flash a new rom over it lulz.
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Just get a screen protector from stealthguards.com
Their screen protectors are like anti-finger oil or something like that, cause when I swipe my phone with greasy french fry fingers, I barely see the streaks of grease on the phone.
And it's for free, with 2.95 shipping.
Took about a week to ship to me, and i'm up in Canada, EH.
My wife and I both have had G1s since preorder, neither with screen protectors, mine in my pocket (usually with nothing else) and hers in her purse with god knows what, and neither of them is scratched at all.
Says something for HTC's choice there, but I don't know that it's the same glass.
I haven't had a screen protector on my G2 since I bought it almost a month ago and I keep it on my pocket. Screen is still perfect.
Didn't have a screen protector on my N1 either and there weren't any additional scratches from when I bought it (had one small scratch from previous owner).
I have not managed to scratch my screen and my phone has met mr. hardwood floor once.
It's easy to prevent scratches/chips. Don't drop it, don't put it a pocket with other stuff, keep it away from kids/dogs/cats/parents/gfs/police/etc, don't lay it face down and don't go all high school girl and pitch your phone at a wall when someone makes you angry.
There go, AbsolutZero's guide to a scratch free phone lol.
convolution said:
Just get a screen protector from stealthguards.com
Their screen protectors are like anti-finger oil or something like that, cause when I swipe my phone with greasy french fry fingers, I barely see the streaks of grease on the phone.
And it's for free, with 2.95 shipping.
Took about a week to ship to me, and i'm up in Canada, EH.
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just ordered one myself, couldn't believe this was free
I'm surprised my screen hasn't gotten scratched yet! I dropped it on a concrete patio with bits of broken vehicle glass on it, I was replacing a window and got carless and knocked the phone off the seat with the door card as I was putting it back together. Also dropped it at work, which is a big retail store.
What has gotten scratched and damaged however is the battery door. That I find to be a bit annoying, now it looks ugly.
jinpaul.yang said:
just ordered one myself, couldn't believe this was free
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It technically isn't.
They make a profit from "shipping".
I got mine in a normal everyday envelope.
Cost them lets say a dollar to ship it up to Canada.
They spent about 70 cents to make the protectors.
Their profit is about $1.20.
convolution said:
It technically isn't.
They make a profit from "shipping".
I got mine in a normal everyday envelope.
Cost them lets say a dollar to ship it up to Canada.
They spent about 70 cents to make the protectors.
Their profit is about $1.20.
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useful information, thank you so much
Yup, more profits if sending it somewhere in the US. 46 cents for a stamp, envelopes are dirt cheap, and bang!
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how does the mytouch screen do against scratches and the like? How long have you been going bare?
The screen feels so nice without one, I just don't want to start getting scratches on it, so looking for some opinions
Maybe this belongs in the accessories section. Mods, sorry if it does, please move it if you feel it is necessary.
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dung8604 said:
how does the mytouch screen do against scratches and the like? How long have you been going bare?
The screen feels so nice without one, I just don't want to start getting scratches on it, so looking for some opinions
Maybe this belongs in the accessories section. Mods, sorry if it does, please move it if you feel it is necessary.
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Since I got it about a month ago
Sent from my wickedly brilliant Virtuos Unity Sense 3.0 BluMagic HD Android powered black myTouch 4G with my fingers.
mine is naked since i got it in November... not even a small scratch
I've never had a screen protector on mine. Got it in March. The silver plastic that runs around the phone has some nicks in it, but the screen is in perfect shape.
Okay I'm going to go naked and see what happens. My hd2
got a couple very very small scratches after many users said they never had one. I dunno maybe I'm rougher with my phone than I thought
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no screen protector since day 1 (bought sometime in Feb/Mar) and still on perfect condition. It has gorilla glass: http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/htc
so IMHO I don't think you need to worry. I've learned this with my hero. stupid me putting a screen protector not knowing the glass itself has better scratch resistance than the screen protector I bought.
a little off topic, I'm looking for the perfect case though. as stelth300 stated, the chrome part (and probably the metal back) does seem to need a good case.
I got mine the day it came out, whenever that was, and never used a case or screen cover. I have a few small scratches on the middle of the screen, but you can only see them when the screen is off. Also the coating on my battery door is starting to peel away in some spots. And the metal ring around the camera lens fell off.
I dragged a key on it to test it. It wouldnt scratch. Gorilla glass!
As you'll see here, the MT4G has Gorilla Glass, so it is exceptionally tough. I've seen people drag keys across it and there isn't a scratch after.
TeeJay3800 said:
As you'll see here, the MT4G has Gorilla Glass, so it is exceptionally tough. I've seen people drag keys across it and there isn't a scratch after.
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Wait the mytouch 3g had gorilla glass too? I'm gonna have to get my old one from my friend to confirm. I feel like that can't be true
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dung8604 said:
Wait the mytouch 3g had gorilla glass too? I'm gonna have to get my old one from my friend to confirm. I feel like that can't be true
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I feel the same about my old G1. The screen doesn't feel near as tough as my MT4G's. Maybe there are different versions of Gorilla Glass, and the newer phones have a tougher model.
use gorilla glass, once you have it you wont regret it and its worth it
I use a screen protector due to dust and not scratches, I also have a case that seals the edges from dust. That is my real concern.
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Mine is about 3 months old and not on scratch yet...pretty amazing, even dropped it one flat on the screen on the floor and NOTHING. This is a tough phone.
I used a cheap screen protector that came with my trident aegis case, it was a joke and i don't care what anyone says no matter how good you are @ putting them stupid theings on there will always be some air bubbles trapped underneath which is my biggest gripe and why i rock mine butt nekkid plz lol
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I used a cheap screen protector that came with my trident aegis case, it was a joke and i don't care what anyone says no matter how good you are @ putting them stupid theings on there will always be some air bubbles trapped underneath which is my biggest gripe and why i rock mine butt nekkid plz lol
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This is true, I have never been able to get it perfectly, and I can't smooth out all the bubbles either. It's annoying to look at sometimes but there's not much i can do about it. Sometimes I don't use a case so I have my phone with other things in my pockets.
run mine naked, ended up with a minor scratch most likely from something in my pocket. I have to really look for it when the screen is off, don't even notice when screen is on. Had mine since release.
My wife on the other hand... I think it was the first 2 weeks before she managed to put a scratch in the screen. I think she dropped it in the car onto a upward pointing nail file.
Had mine since about a month before it was officially announced to be released.
Never used a screen protector.
I dont have a case and also have dropped the phone NUMEROUS times, on the concrete, face down (in fact, more times than I can remember- and probably an ongoing couple of times a week, at normal ))
I have a very minimal amount of "scratches" on the screen; however there is a very small sort of dent on the the edge from the impact of one of the falls.
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This is true, I have never been able to get it perfectly, and I can't smooth out all the bubbles either. It's annoying to look at sometimes but there's not much i can do about it. Sometimes I don't use a case so I have my phone with other things in my pockets.
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Did you guys try the shower trick? I usually get every screen protector on perfectly with minimal effort using this method.
I'm gonna run naked and see what happens though. You guys are giving me good vibes about this thing
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Wtf is the shower trick?
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So I just woke up to a knick on the side of my phone this morning. Nothing major by any stretch but nevertheless if your like me it bothers you to death and you can't stop looking at it. So I'm wondering if anyone else out there has make a mark on their baby yet. (Side note: the fake metal sides are cheap af. I tested it by lightly tapping my cast, I broke my wrist, and it left a Mark that won't come off. Come on LG even my samsung plastic held up better.)
i got a small crack near the mic opening on the bottom..doesnt bother me that much..hoping to exchange it when the nexus x comes out..if it is better
Dropped from a foot and the screen cracked and doesnt work. Saying that i have insurance so i got a new one
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i got a small crack near the mic opening on the bottom..doesnt bother me that much..hoping to exchange it when the nexus x comes out..if it is better
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Yea I'm excited to see what it offers unfortunately I'm on Big Red, not by choice, just no other carriers have coverage beyond 2g in my area.
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Dropped from a foot and the screen cracked and doesnt work. Saying that i have insurance so i got a new one
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Well that's a plus. I'm sure that deposit sucked but at least you got spiffy new looking phone.
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Dropped from a foot and the screen cracked and doesnt work. Saying that i have insurance so i got a new one
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I dropped mine from about 2.5 feet and it put one long crack through the screen and nothing to one side of it worked. $156 LCD/digitizer replacement through LG. I feel your pain.
Edit: I forgot to mention this happened with the Spigen Slim Armor case on.
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Haha, the other day I was driving a fork lift truck at work like I usually do and I guess I was going to fast when I hit a bump and my phone flew to where my feet was and then to the ground face down. Luckily the only damage done was a tiny nick to the screen that you can't even tell it's there unless I point it out. It was bugging me to death the first few hours but now I barely notice it. Can't be seen with screen on either. I was rather disappointed to. I have a phone cover on it and it shouldn't of gotten scratched but oh well. It could of been worse.
I have some hits on the frame around the screen, 2 scratches on back cover and 2 more barely noticable on the screen. That's it.
The world played out in slow motion the first time I dropped my phone. At this point though there are a few very minor scratches along the edge of the phone around the screen.
hairline crack across the bottom microphone. NEVER dropped it. Do you guys confirm this is a more widespread issue?
yeah I've got tiny scratches on the back... barely visible
but the bizarre thing is that I'm pretty friendly with how I use the phone...I never dropped it yet.. using a thin back case..
weird...I think LG should work better on durability...
Even though the back of the G3 looks and feels great
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yousifamir said:
yeah I've got tiny scratches on the back... barely visible
but the bizarre thing is that I'm pretty friendly with how I use the phone...I never dropped it yet.. using a thin back case..
weird...I think LG should work better on durability...
Even though the back of the G3 looks and feels great
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Same thing. Dropped it once while drunk but even before that I had these weird little scratches on the back. No clue where they are from.
Hairline crack at IR port. Will try and get a free replacement in a couple of weeks using warranty
Had my phone bare naked for few weeks and dropped if few times, had in my pocket with keys and change. No scratches or anything anywhere. I don't even think I'll be getting a screen protector since this baby is one tough son of a female dog.
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AllstarE4 said:
I dropped mine from about 2.5 feet and it put one long crack through the screen and nothing to one side of it worked. $156 LCD/digitizer replacement through LG. I feel your pain.
Edit: I forgot to mention this happened with the Spigen Slim Armor case on.
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Wow... With SPIGEN on dude? I always thought that those cases were awesome.
It must have landed on a corner.
I just got the same case today. I could see it not providing much protection if it lands on the ground on the corners. The top and back are just rubber.
I love the case though. Not sure how much protection it offers from drops.
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yousifamir said:
yeah I've got tiny scratches on the back... barely visible
but the bizarre thing is that I'm pretty friendly with how I use the phone...I never dropped it yet.. using a thin back case..
weird...I think LG should work better on durability...
Even though the back of the G3 looks and feels great
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You probably got dirt grains in between the case and phone.
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Wow... With SPIGEN on dude? I always thought that those cases were awesome.
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So did I. The case is nice and doesn't add bulk. It would probably offer more protection if it were a little softer rubber.
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It must have landed on a corner.
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Yep, right on the corner. Funny how Spigen advertises "Absolute Drop Protection" and "Air cushion corners". Lol
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Jesus, i bought one of those but I hasn't arrived so far. I using a regular tpu case
It's still a great case and I think it provides decent protection unless dropped in a certain way.
The case looks beautiful and I love the way the camera is separated from the volume.
I'm happy with it so far and still much better than bare bones.
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I ran an apple background for a little while. That's all the defiling so far.