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I am a new pure user and I am looking to "customize" the phone...
I am completely new to this and I don't even know where to start...
Help?
I'd use the phone for a few days and figure out exactly what you like and don't like about it and then post what you want to change. Customize is a pretty general term but we'll be able to help you if you have specific wants.
BTW, is Dillybar a Dairy Queen treat?
lol - my last name is Dillard... so my friend who LOVES dairy queen nicknamed me dilly bar
Anywho - I have had the pure for a couple weeks... The only thing I absolutely want to keep on the phone is the voice command... I won't be too upset if anything else goes into hiding with a new rom or anything...
I'm fine with it how it is, but I just want to try some different things... The voice command staying is really my only requirement though
is it possible to get adobe flash player on a pure?
I was trying to watch the Disney princess videos on youtube with my daughter this AM and I couldn't install flash... she was disappointed
Bro,
Start first by searching and reading.
There are so many possiblities but it is important that you know what you are doing first.
Read "Flashing for newbies", then read through a few cooked ROM threads and see what the bugs are and what is offered in the ROM.
Mostly, a cooked ROM will be ready with everything you need other than personal tastes.
Also, almost any question you may have has already been asked and answered so search and read.....
On the stock ATT ROM, there is a youtube application built-in, its just hiding. Just go to the file explorer, find the youtube program(should be called you tube) tap and hold, then copy into start menu folder inside windows folder. If not, try the official youtube application, or youtubeplay. As for general customization, just look around in the forum. Check the blackstone and rhodium forums, too.
A really good place to visit is the Development and Hacking forums. Thats where all the application updates, user made programs, and program tweaks reside.
I wouldn't really flash to a custom rom quite yet. Custom roms can sometimes require a little more windows mobile experience. When you are ready to flash custom roms, you'll have to do it in 2 steps initially. The first step is called HardSPL, which only needs to be done once. It unlocks your phone to allow custom roms. Then pick your poison. I would recommend Dutty's roms as they seem pretty clean and straight forward.
OK - Lets try again!
I have been trying quite a few ROM's on my HD2 and they have all sort of rolled into one mash-up of memories in my head - for the most I can't say I have noticed much difference in speed or responsiveness in the ROM's, and despite a few problems I have only come across one ROM that gave me any real issues.
But none of the ROMs have given me exactly what I am after (and that's an ever moving target anyway!) so I am thinking about having a go at cooking a ROM of my own. But before I go down that path I wanted some paternal guidance on the matter - and a clarification over the benefits of getting a stock ROM, adding all the software and tweaks I use then cooking it, against just installing the stock ROM to my HD2 then installing the apps on top and applying the tweaks afterwards. Are there any benefits such as speed or memory usage? or is it simply that if I need to hard-reset the device at any point I don't have to go through all that reinstalling again?
So your thoughts on the pros and cons of cooking vs installing would be greatly appreciated by a brain-addled HD2 user.
Been cooking for Trinity but not for HD2 ... still ...
Cooking gives you chance to make a ROM that is perfect for You. Some things cannot be removed like MS Live or Office via usual un-install procedure. Also you can cook ROM with favorite theme and applications.
Tweaking is completely different story. There are a lot of tweaks and most of them work but when you start implement a lot of tweaks things will get complicated. Suddenly Bluetooth will stop pairing, compass wont work as it should and so on. Then you will start hunting newer versions of applications that could solve some of the problems but will create some others ... you see the pattern?
At some point you will be satisfied with your ROM and even publish it here ... but then there will be new OS build available ... and there you go again.
Basically, depends on what kind of user you are. If you need HD2 to work and run applications without too much problems then you should stick to original or cooked ROMs. On the other hand, if you have a lot of spare time and will to learn something new, you should go for cooking.
Hope this helps
Humm - pretty much as I thought really, as I need a device that works then looks like I would be better off sticking with some of the ROMs existing chefs have created.
What would help in this matter would be a sticky with a table on it showing various comparisons with ROMs - I know this info can be found on each ROMs page but a single post with it all compiled together and then linking to the various ROM pages would be great. I guess comparisons could list the chef, ROM build no, Core build no, Manila version, WM version, size, Driver version, additional apps, removed apps and so on.... - just needs someone to keep the data up-to-date. Any takers?
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What would help would be a sticky with a table on it showing various comparisons with ROMs - I guess comparisons could list the chef, ROM build no, Core build no, Manila version, WM version, size, Driver version, additional apps, removed apps and so on.... - just needs someone to keep the data up-to-date. Any takers?
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Well volunteered if you can also get a screenshot alongside them that would be great.. either that or steer me towards a Landscape enabled/576ram/no copilot/vista task bar and slider with no curtains and I'll leave you in peace.
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Well volunteered if you can also get a screenshot alongside them that would be great.. either that or steer me towards a Landscape enabled/576ram/no copilot/vista task bar and slider with no curtains and I'll leave you in peace.
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If time and experience were on my side I would love to - its great to see these ROMs developing.
Just curious, what components can we use from their themes, like Clocks, Apps, etc?
Do their ROM's work on our devices?
Thanks, just wondering because I have found stuff that I can use successfully.
Their ROMs do NOT work on our devices. Depending on what ROM you're currently running, a lot of their customization in the Themes/Apps section will work just fine, its actually a good spot to find stuff since the HD2 is the flagship HTC WinMo device right now
Thanks, anything in particular I should look for in a ROM, that might indicate the HD2 Theme stuff will work better?
I use Athine, I noticed you use TPC
Well, as long as you download stuff that is designed for your build of windows (6.5 or 6.5.x) or designed for your version of Sense (2.5.2012).. you SHOULD be OK.
Just be careful, probably should get a signature that shows what your running. A good place to start would be in the AthineOS thread, there are probably posts in there where people talk about what works and what does not. Some chefs will include known working Add-ons in the first couple posts.
Ok, thanks for the help man.
So I just got this phone like 3 days ago. And I like it. But I'm ready to do something with it. I didn't get winmo to use basic winmo, let's put it that way .
So anyways, I've been searching and I've found a few roms that I think sound pretty good to try out.
But the main thing I'm wondering about are what tweaks to look at that people have found to be really useful.
Before I flash a rom, I'd really like to try out some different tweaks to like change the keyboard, speed up messaging, and heck, I don't know what else (I text a lot, lol).
So I'm just asking for some suggestions from the users out there. Like what tweak or whatever you used, and where I can find it. Thanks guys .
I'm going to tell you what every one told me when I asked what rom to use on my touch pro 2. Just try as many roms as you want and see which one you like best or fits you the best. people tent to like different thing so what you like other people might not like or want on their rom. Right now im using the stock rom since I feel that theirs not point to flash it at the moment their havent put out anything special in my opinion (no diss to the developers here you guys make this site what it is). I'm waiting for android to be ported or windows 7.
Ps. read the instructions carefully theirs a few people here that bricked their phone already
Yeah, I really don't want to brick this thing. And THANKS for the advice.
But moreso than just roms, what I'm really interested in is tweaks. Any suggestions there?
More and more roms are coming with the tweaks already added to them. I would say find the ROM first and then find the tweaks that haven't been implemented yet.
I've tried a few ROMS and I have found Kumars the best to my liking. Its the closet to the original look and feel of the HD2 when you first get it. I use Kumars along with BsB tweaks. BsB is super easy to use and is a really powerful tool.
Yeah, I'll have to look at those. I mean, the main reason I'm looking at tweaks more is because I do like the HD2 Interface. There's just some small stuff that bugs me.
But I'll have to look more into some of the roms to really see what I want there as well.
Cookie's home tab is definitely the first thing to do
Cookie's Home tab? Is that a rom or what?
How about the keyboard, is there anything to change that, like get rid of the arrows?
EgomaniacIII said:
Cookie's Home tab? Is that a rom or what?
How about the keyboard, is there anything to change that, like get rid of the arrows?
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CHT is a cab. That is actually built into a lot of the ROMs you will find. If you like the HD2 interface then I would just say get Kumar's Classic ROM which would probably be the same as what you have now. Only difference is it has some of the tweaks already included in it like modifications of the registry as well as CHT but it lacks all the bugs that the factory O/S has. From there you can find out what tweaks it doesn't have and then add the CABs to it like the HD2 Memory Tweaks or whatever other stuff.
The fact that you like the factory HD2 interface doesn't mean you can't find an updated ROM that looks just like the factory O/S.
Just got a HTC HD2 a week ago, been playing with ROMs since I got it and having a blast doing it. I was noticing that things are extremely unorgainized when trying to find the ROMs, where to download them (also having to download them off the free mirrors), what exactly changed, etc...
Was thinking of building a website, where all the cookers can upload their ROMs, provide a change log for each individual ROM, be able to display the different versions of their ROM. Provide details about their ROM (look, functionality, etc...). Then in each cookers section, people can post comments / questions for that individual ROM. I tried providing more details below of how the structure would work.
For the break down of content management I was thinking:
PHONE MODEL > COOKER / ROM > LANGUAGE > ROM VERSION > ROM DOWNLOAD
Phone Model - For now I would just be doing the HTC HD2, but if this caught on, would be up for doing more phones.
Cooker / Rom - This would be area for the cooker to show off his / her ROM, with pictures, description, anything else they want to say. This would also be the area where people can post questions / comments, that would be easily responded to by the cooker or another user.
Language - Notice that lots of cookers like to create their ROMs in different languages, this way, it is very easy to find the ROM in your language.
Rom Version - Display all the versions of that ROM in that Language
Rom Download - Change log for that specific Rom Version would be displayed and allow you to download the ROM (I would be hosting the website, so everyone would just be directly downloading off the website, no mirrors, etc...).
Like I said, it is just a idea. Let me know what you think!
i don't mean to be instantly negative, but it gets talked about every few months, and a few people even make a start(have a look through the regular hd2 section, theres at least one rom index project, possibly two,complete with little-used websites.)
problem is you need to get all the chefs on board, and most of them just don't care for the extra time and work involved.
best of luck, none the less.
I would be doing all the work. the chefs would really be uploading the roms and change log that's about it.
as i said, best of luck, it would indeed be usefull, im just passing on my experience of these type of projects.
(another point to consider is that quite a few of these roms have been downloaded hundreds of thousands of times, , at around 200meg each, can your server manage that? at a speed that people will be OK with? day in day out? you can bet that right this second as i type, there are probably a dozen downloads happening, thats a gig and a half, concurrently.... thats a lot of bandwidth)
yeah totally get what you mean. reason why I posted this to see if the cookers would even want to do this before I did all this work.
the bandwidth would be no problem, think I should just post this under windows development?
I totally agree and am willing to help!
Thanks, you have any knowledge in HTML / CSS / PHP / MySQL? Not going to start on the project, unless I can at least get a handful of cookers who are at least willing to just upload the ROMs to the server. I would be even willing to go as far as to get all the initial content up for the ROM, then hopefully the cookers would just upload new ROMs and submit a change log for that ROM version. The backend I would be creating for this website, will be very easy to use, and really would not take them much time.
But the biggest thing is getting them on board, see if any post in this thread.
great idea
I also think that having a website to organize these roms out there is a great idea. It can be very handy for new users who want to try out different alternatives with hd2. I think everyone including the experienced users would like to just go to one place for downloads and check out new updates. if you had the website done, everyone from this forum will check it out since we don't see much over here (we do have some threads about rom, but its just links to other thread, not organized enough). I will be very happy if someone like you can build a website for these roms.
Yeah, was also thinking of allowing users to subscribe to ROMs they like, so when a cooker releases a new version of their ROM, they would get a email, letting them know a new version is out!
Just to try to get the ball rolling on this, going to just ask the cookers just to upload their ROMs to my server and that is all. I will pull all the other information myself, at least for now, see how well it catches on.
There's already pretty good sites for that.. www.xda-roms.com and xdaroms.com !
xdaroms.com does not seem to bad, but they don't even have up to date roms, very cluttered website, etc... was going for most up to date rom / extremely clean / easy to use website.
logcomptechs said:
Just got a HTC HD2 a week ago, been playing with ROMs since I got it and having a blast doing it. I was noticing that things are extremely unorgainized when trying to find the ROMs, where to download them (also having to download them off the free mirrors), what exactly changed, etc...
Was thinking of building a website, where all the cookers can upload their ROMs, provide a change log for each individual ROM, be able to display the different versions of their ROM. Provide details about their ROM (look, functionality, etc...). Then in each cookers section, people can post comments / questions for that individual ROM. I tried providing more details below of how the structure would work.
For the break down of content management I was thinking:
PHONE MODEL > COOKER / ROM > LANGUAGE > ROM VERSION > ROM DOWNLOAD
Phone Model - For now I would just be doing the HTC HD2, but if this caught on, would be up for doing more phones.
Cooker / Rom - This would be area for the cooker to show off his / her ROM, with pictures, description, anything else they want to say. This would also be the area where people can post questions / comments, that would be easily responded to by the cooker or another user.
Language - Notice that lots of cookers like to create their ROMs in different languages, this way, it is very easy to find the ROM in your language.
Rom Version - Display all the versions of that ROM in that Language
Rom Download - Change log for that specific Rom Version would be displayed and allow you to download the ROM (I would be hosting the website, so everyone would just be directly downloading off the website, no mirrors, etc...).
Like I said, it is just a idea. Let me know what you think!
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I think this is a great idea... kudos n all the support to you... i have been driving myself crazy trying to sift through the threads n get a sense of what's what... we should totally factor in the time line of releases to make informed decisionmaking easier..
also, speaking of, anybody knows which thread has the best(stable+complete) version of android for the tmous hd2? not that i havent searched but the results of search are quite overwhelming to an extent they act as a deterrent for me to try some rom that might brick my phone.
Now that I have the support of some of the cookers, going to go ahead start on the project, will keep everyone updated!
Sounds great ... I wish I could help but I really do not know anything about websites/html and such stuff
But just wanted to let you know that this is a good idea and such a website is definitely much needed with so many ROMs out there ...
I like the idea, and hope it works well for you! You are probably already aware, but just thought I'd point out that there are chefs out there who don't post on xda. Ark_N is one that comes to mind over at htcpedia dot com. I'm sure people know of others??
http://htcpedia.com/
its already done my friend
Really looking forward to how this turns out...thank you for taking the time to do this.
If you like to see something change on XdaRoms.com let me know. I am also looking for help in getting the word out. HtcPedia doesn't allow you to really search through roms. A lot of chefs there repost over an old post so if you enjoyed an older rom better than the new one you can no longer find it. With XdaRoms.com I wanted the ability to have all versions of a rom available to search through. I also have the ability for Chefs to add a template to their account which you can generate a complete forum post based on a rom by just clicking a button. From there you can copy and paste the forum post and you don't have to write out the same stuff each time. The issue you will run into is mass adoption as others have pointed out. If you really want to help out and make things easier you should use what I have already created and pitch in to make it better.
Sorry to drag up an old thread
I started XDA-Roms.com a while back, because I wanted to learn PHP and also to give people an alternate to RapidShare etc. While I was fairly sucessful in learning PHP, I really do not like the code at all, and need to start again fresh, probably in ASP
I have seen a few of my ideas end up on other ROM sites, which is cool becauase we are all here for the same reason, XDA ROMs.
Unfortunatly, since I started XDA-Roms.com, my work pattern changed and I have not be able to spare the time to keep the site up to date (code or ROMs). Hopefully, I will re-write the site soon-ish and allow chefs to upload their own ROMs (the user interface is there, just not the backend upload code).
In an ideal world, I guess all the ROM sites would end up with the same ROMs, just presented to the viewers in different ways. Personally, im not looking for graphics on my site, just all the ROMs
With all this being said, if there are some ROMs people want uploading, PM me and I will upload them.