Is there any way you can assign the quick key buttons on the G2's physical keyboard to mimic the actions of the capacitive buttons on the front? Mostly looking to hit home and back. I guess for home i could assign it to a 3rd party launcher right? what about back?
Would love to know as well.
I tried this as well. It's weird how the different versions of this phone have totally different keyboards. Verizon has no trackpad, arrow keys instead, euro Desire Z has home and back on the physical keyboard, etc.
What's odd is that the capacitive buttons behave erratically - just like the Nexus One. In other words, backlighting is flaky, they are hard to see in low light conditions, randomly come on and turn off, etc.
I'd be happy with a fix that turns them on when the backlight is on....
HamNCheese said:
What's odd is that the capacitive buttons behave erratically - just like the Nexus One. In other words, backlighting is flaky, they are hard to see in low light conditions, randomly come on and turn off, etc.
I'd be happy with a fix that turns them on when the backlight is on....
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The capacitive buttons and keyboard backlight seem to be activated by the ambient light sensor. Try turning the phone towards a source of light and wait a few seconds, the lights should turn off. The opposite should happen if you point your phone away from a light source. It's slightly annoying how long it takes to register the amount of light... but I don't think it's that bad.
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Hi Guys,
I have been playing with a Hermes for a day now in order to decide on using it or the Wizard. I am aware of the alignment and stylus grip issue, but is the keyboard backlight sensor iffy?
Until I turned off the sensor, I found that the keyboard backlight wouldn't always turn on at all, even with the phone in a completely dark room.
Apart from that, seems a nice phone (other historic issues nothwithstanding) and certainly faster and easier to use than the Wizard.
For info, my serial number starts HT640, which is much later than the others on the wiki (I have added it to the list) so maybe it's 'new an improved'?? We can but hope.
even in a dark room and you pull the keyboard out you still need to press a key on the keyboard before the backlight comes on...
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even in a dark room and you pull the keyboard out you still need to press a key on the keyboard before the backlight comes on...
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Yep, I know that - it doesn't work.
lighting issues
I've taken to holding my thumb completely over the sensor for a second or 2 and beginning to type, this usually activates it when it will not automatically light the pad (even in virtual darkness). Mine does seem a but sporadic, sometimes it works automatically, other times not.
Why not just disable the light sensor?
Settings > Personal > Buttons > Backlight
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vijay555;1036692 said:
Why not just disable the light sensor?
Settings > Personal > Buttons > Backlight
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umm..if you have to disable features, doesn't that defeat the purpose of having them?
I don't really consider the light sensor a feature, more an option. I think the blue backlight is cool, so like to keep it on all the time when I'm using the keyboard, daylight or no.
However, for the purposes of this thread, removing the potentially buggy sensor from the equation will help narrow down any problems, is it the lights, the phone, or the sensor that causes erratic behaviour.
Works fine for me though.
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Is it possible to one day change the keyboard backlight brightness? Under normal lighting conditions the backlight on the bronze G1 washes out the letters making it extremely difficult to see the keys.
The backlights under the keyboard and the chin buttons seem to be very dim and I would guess that there is a way to adjust the brightness as can be done with the display backlight.
Hopefully someone can look into seeing if it's possible or an official patch is released to raise the brightness. A different color would have been better, too bad the whole "put blue LEDs in every damn consumer product" trend is over, I think blue LEDs would be much more visible.
i haven't had any problems with the brightness, but what really bothers me is that the backlight turns off so damn fast. On my old Dash, the keyboard light was controlled directly by the screen's backlight. If the screen was lit up, so was the keyboard.
I'm getting really tired of hitting the menu button to turn the lights back on without messing anything up.
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I'm getting really tired of hitting the menu button to turn the lights back on without messing anything up.
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It annoys me too, but tip: nudge the trackball a tiny bit, not enough to move the cursor. You'll get used to it until there is some type of fix.
Hello
I have a problem with my 8525 hardware keyboard.
I have the backlight auto sensor enabled and the light doesnt turn on when i slide my phone open.
But... when its on the charger it works
Whats the problem??
Im using joshes m2d light 3g rom
Thanks in advance!
Does it turn on after you start typing or does it stay dark?
it does turn on after i start typing,
but i would like to get the sensor to start working
so it will turn on when i slide the phone open
Backlight issue
I've discovered from just using my 8525 that the backlight to the keyboard goes on when I first press a key on the keyboard but only if the light in the room is very low. Sometimes it seems like the light level in the room is low enough but the backlight still doesn't go on. Too bad there isn't a low-light level adjustment for the backlight feature.
Just so folk know - it is possible to set it up so when you open the keyboard it lights up regardless of the light level and key presses. Right now I can't remember how!! but I set mine up that way ages ago. Does use more battery power however so it is not necessarily a good thing - but looks pretty.
Mike
Does anyone know how backlight is suppose to work for Home, Menu, Back and Search keys? Is it suppose to stay on as long as the screen backlight stays on or is it certain amount of time? What triggers them to come on- key press, screen touch, trackpad touch or all of the above? Mine don't seem to follow any rhyme or reason, at least I couldn't trace a pattern. I know that I was messing around with the phone last night in the dark and they would come on and go off as they pleased. Does light sensor have anything to do with it? Please sound off your findings and ideas.
Thanks!
Mine don't seem to follow any rhyme or reason either - it's a bit maddening. And the same goes for the backlight of the physical keyboard (sometimes it comes on, sometimes it doesn't - no telling why), and also the automatic adjustment of brightness (i use the phone for a minute and suddenly it gets super-bright).
Hopefully these are all just bugs that will be fixed with an OTA update, but it is weird and I'm glad to know it's not just my unit since I don't want to replace it (I got a solid hinge - good stuff!).
I think I figured it out. Backlight for touch keys is controlled by light sensor and also has a timer (few seconds), so if it's bright enough outside - they will not even come on. If it's dark - they come on and stay on for certain time then go off untill you press one of them again.
Now, the other thing that I'm noticing is that my haptic feedback is not working when pressing one of those buttons or long-pressing the screen. Anyone else has that problem?
I have used my phone primarily in the dark. All my lights are always on (when the screen is) and the auto-brightness is too bright. If I turn brightness to minimum, the always on lights are way too bright compared to the screen. I really wish the designers had tried to use this phone in the dark (laying in bed) and realized the auto-brightness and lights are too bright in pitch-dark!
Also I am getting real sick of rotation. On my G1 I could disable it completely unless the keyboard was out. I like to lay in bed or on a couch and use my phone sideways, but not rotated. This seems impossible to do on the G2. Disabling rotation doesn't do anything for 3rd party apps or even GMail for that matter. For some reason this was not the case on the G1.
It will be hard to go back to the G1's one-second+ lag after every press and the incredibly slow loading webpages now that I have experienced the G2, but there are too many really annoying problems, so I think it is getting sent back.
if you have your backlight set to automatic... it will cut on only if the room is dark... check your backlight settings
It's an issue with the way android uses the light sensor. It's very poorly coded.
Is there any way to stop the capacitve buttons backlight turning out so quickly?
Seems a bit ridiculous that this isn't tied in to the light sensor - it's nigh on impossible to see those buttons in the dark. Why wouldn't they have set them to have a much longer time out when the light sensor is reporting it's dark and you're interacting with the device?
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Is there any way to stop the capacitve buttons backlight turning out so quickly?
Seems a bit ridiculous that this isn't tied in to the light sensor - it's nigh on impossible to see those buttons in the dark. Why wouldn't they have set them to have a much longer time out when the light sensor is reporting it's dark and you're interacting with the device?
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HEAR, HEAR! I agree with you 100%!
Since the developers are missing the source code I don't think they can make an application like Keep the Lights On like Android has.