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Well, I hate to say this but I have given up waiting for root as an early leak user. I feel I have the right to post this due to 1, helping wherever I could, 2, contacting paul to even get the ball rolling after jcase mentioned him 3, offered donation for a solution etc...
I love my eris but see all the neat things I am missing out on. When the evo comes out, I will be jumping from pageplus to sprint... i am sure that will be rooted and if not... im still better off.
Thank you to all who have tried their best.. I think this is one instance where the phone beat us. I am annoyed that we do not have root as it allows us to better use our own phone.
anyway, best of luck to all...
Do not feed the troll...
seriously?? I have more posts than you and I am far from that... your comment is stupid.
joey3002 said:
Well, I hate to say this but I have given up waiting for root as an early leak user. I feel I have the right to post this due to 1, helping wherever I could, 2, contacting paul to even get the ball rolling after jcase mentioned him 3, offered donation for a solution etc...
I love my eris but see all the neat things I am missing out on. When the evo comes out, I will be jumping from pageplus to sprint... i am sure that will be rooted and if not... im still better off.
Thank you to all who have tried their best.. I think this is one instance where the phone beat us. I am annoyed that we do not have root as it allows us to better use our own phone.
anyway, best of luck to all...
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I dont blame you homie.. If I had not managed to get a second eris after I jumped on the leakv1, I would have gone nuts watching all the badass ROMS and hacks get released and have no way to use them.
Ok everyone can quit complaining about the 2.1 update! I just checked Verizon ERis Software Upgrade page and its announced that there is an update coming soon! I know theres no date but at least it is now finally up on their site. If you dont belive me check it out your self & for those who doubted it would ever come this just shows that paicence is a virtue.
support.vzw.com/information/droid_eris_upgrade
Check out both pdf files. The Benifits of Software link states all the updates for 2.1. Enough said?
Good riddance.
Whitepaint said:
I dont blame you homie.. If I had not managed to get a second eris after I jumped on the leakv1, I would have gone nuts watching all the badass ROMS and hacks get released and have no way to use them.
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exactly...
WalkingTaco said:
Good riddance.
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suck it... what have you contributed?
Just short out the battery connection on the back of the phone with a small piece of aluminum foil, take it in to Verizon, explain how your phone just turned off and won't turn on and voila! You get a new phone the next day running stock 1.5, ready to be ROOTED!
That's what I did after installing the 2.1 leak and realized I couldn't get root. Let me tell you, my rooted Eris running Evil Eris v2.0 with the overclocked processor is far greater than my friends Moto Droid. I hope you make the right decision.
P.S. Don't be a bully.
There are always risks involved when upgrading a device, I learned that with the PSP and now other people are learning it with their Eris. Crying about it (in the wrong forum no less) is doing nothing to help.
A root will likely eventually be found, patience is the key. As soon as you just can't stand it anymore and upgrade/change device/etc you've potentially lost something forever.
One thing is for sure; I find it insulting that people feel they have a right to complain about being on leak, nobody held you down and forced you to flash anything.
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Just short out the battery connection on the back of the phone with a small piece of aluminum foil, take it in to Verizon, explain how your phone just turned off and won't turn on and voila! You get a new phone the next day running stock 1.5, ready to be ROOTED!
That's what I did after installing the 2.1 leak and realized I couldn't get root. Let me tell you, my rooted Eris running Evil Eris v2.0 with the overclocked processor is far greater than my friends Moto Droid. I hope you make the right decision.
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It's not overclocked yet, it definitely doesnt do anything at the moment. And as far as shorting it out, I took mine into verizon complaining about the speakers all cutting out glitch and they didnt even look at the phone and swapped me out a new one in 10 minutes. It's not that hard really, just find someone in the store who looks like an idiot. All the smart people are in the back anyway.
Or You can not be a cheapskate and just Buy a new one..
or should I get a MOTO Droid or incredible but I still have my Eris with
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There are always risks involved when upgrading a device, I learned that with the PSP and now other people are learning it with their Eris. Crying about it (in the wrong forum no less) is doing nothing to help.
A root will likely eventually be found, patience is the key. As soon as you just can't stand it anymore and upgrade/change device/etc you've potentially lost something forever.
One thing is for sure; I find it insulting that people feel they have a right to complain about being on leak, nobody held you down and forced you to flash anything.
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I second that ****!
Just Buy a Incredible Then Get Root Or Wait For It.
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Or You can not be a cheapskate and just Buy a new one..
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Not everyone has lots of money and buying a new eris outright is about 500 or so, used on ebay they go for over 300. speaking for myself I know I'd rather have the 3-500 to spend on bills and things then buying a new phone.
Even though I am kicking myself for not waiting a bit longer, I don't regret upgrading to any of the leaks. It gave me 2.1 months before everyone else. A little more patience never hurt anyone.
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Not everyone has lots of money and buying a new eris outright is about 500 or so, used on ebay they go for over 300. speaking for myself I know I'd rather have the 3-500 to spend on bills and things then buying a new phone.
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Seconded. But this thread is useless. If you're tired of waiting on 2.1 leak root then get a new phone, try and get a replacement or just sit there and use the phone like it was meant to be. There's nothing wrong with 2.1 v3 in my opinion. Telling everyone you're leaving because of it is just asking to be trolled/flamed. I suggest a mod closes this thread or something.
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Seconded. But this thread is useless. If you're tired of waiting on 2.1 leak root then get a new phone, try and get a replacement or just sit there and use the phone like it was meant to be. There's nothing wrong with 2.1 v3 in my opinion. Telling everyone you're leaving because of it is just asking to be trolled/flamed. I suggest a mod closes this thread or something.
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Agree, 2.1 is so much better than 1.5. Plus, if you want to play with your phone and "customize it" a little there are home replacements in the market you can try. Helixlauncher is really good, and I just found one yesterday on android forums, real nice. It's called Zeam, http://www.mediafire.com/?jtzjyoklenk
Little to no lag and dialer is lightning fast.
So while you might not be rooted, it's nobody's fault that root hasn't been found yet or that you (op) flashed the leak. I want root too, but have the patience to wait for it to be found. There are some of the best devs on here working on it, only a matter of time.
~ happy 2.1 v3 leak user
my point wasnt i was unhappy with anyone here. I love 2.1v3 and yes, its leaps above 1.5
Just annoyed at what I am missing. I do not want this topic to be considered trollish..
he is lying about the whole thing. i did not give it to people i liked...
i only gave it to people that developed for the epic and people that they trust weather i liked it or not.
I gave firon the leak of dj29 then whodaman & firon decided to leak it without my approval a week later... they have the power to leak froyo without me approving that .. it take time to test froyo.. i assure you that guy that leaked it is not a developer or a tester..
thanks the mods for closing the thread of the dk05 leak because flashing the leak is NOT SAFE!
i just don't want people bricking their phone and yes it has a signature. don't take word for it my source confirmed it..
the closed leak lasted for a week before it became out of control..
Good to know that bro!
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he is lying about the whole thing. i did not give it to people i liked...
i only gave it to people that developed for the epic and people that they trust weather i liked it or not.
I gave firon the leak of dj29 then whodaman & firon decided to leak it without my approval a week later... they have the power to leak froyo without me approving that .. it take time to test froyo.. i assure you that guy that leaked it is not a developer or a tester..
thanks the mods for closing the thread of the dk05 leak because flashing the leak is NOT SAFE!
i just don't want people bricking their phone and yes it has a signature. don't take word for it my source confirmed it..
the closed leak lasted for a week before it became out of control..
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I agree it wasnt posted by many people who had it for a REASON as to prevent problems and people getting BRICKED or not flashing properly.
Sit back and think about how long the leak has been out do you all really think that if it was WORTHY of being let out to the masses it would have taken so long? No it would have been posted as a rom for mass consumption REALLY Fast....
BUYERS BEWARE
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the closed leak lasted for a week before it became out of control..
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I think the epic forums are out of control. As someone stated, we should all be helping eachother.
I just see noob has done a lot of amazing work for the epic, people should be grateful & all they do talk garbage & complain. I should just get my evo back & leave all this behind.
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I agree it wasnt posted by many people who had it for a REASON as to prevent problems and people getting BRICKED or not flashing properly.
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That explains why the modem was not released. Now why wasn't the rom released?
I think the epic forums are out of control. As someone stated, we should all be helping eachother.
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They absolutely are.
I tested DJ29 for about a week and found it was good enough for a release. DK05 bricked my modem, so I didn't consider it safe.
The ROM was -probably- okay to release, but the modem is not.
It was not held back for fame or any bull**** like that.
There are too many trolls on these forums who obviously don't understand the time and patience it takes to make things like this possible.
I appreciate all the hard work you've done noob, and firon.
I really wish I had the knowledge to participate, but my time will come
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I think the epic forums are out of control.
I should just get my evo back & leave all this behind.
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You are dead right on this one. The Epic side of the house is unbelievably bad. Not only are things slow, at no fault to anyone here, but there is WAY too much bickering in these threads. I go to the threads concerning my EVO and love it. I come here and am continually caught off guard by the way folks are. Either way, I want my Epic to stay my main phone, so I keep coming back.
Any one know what the "phone,orange triangle and little computer" mean. I fear I bricked my phone. I can't even get into download mode now. WHen I press 1 and power up the charging battery comes on the screen. Thanks for trying to keep this from happening. This the first time I have bricked a phone in many years. Guess ut was bound to happen at some point.
Why not just release the rom + modem with a disclaimer that it may brick your phone and require an Odin flash? Also, the safety net Odin represents in itself, I think, nullifies any danger from bricking.
And another thing; don't send things to people over the internet and expect them to stay secret.
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Either way, I want my Epic to stay my main phone, so I keep coming back.
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Lol, that's my problem. I love my Epic, so I just skim through the bickering & hang around. No offense but a lot of it does seem about egos & fame, but I understand what goes into being a dev & it is nice to have recognition for your work. But at the same time it's not safe to release stuff not ready for the primetime because everyday average users looking for a better phone experience will just end up bricking their phones. & like I said, everything noob has put out has been quality work & I've never had a problem with any of it. just my two cents.
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Any one know what the "phone,orange triangle and little computer" mean. I fear I bricked my phone. I can't even get into download mode now. WHen I press 1 and power up the charging battery comes on the screen. Thanks for trying to keep this from happening. This the first time I have bricked a phone in many years. Guess ut was bound to happen at some point.
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Pull the battery and try again.
ptfdmedic said:
Any one know what the "phone,orange triangle and little computer" mean. I fear I bricked my phone. I can't even get into download mode now. WHen I press 1 and power up the charging battery comes on the screen. Thanks for trying to keep this from happening. This the first time I have bricked a phone in many years. Guess ut was bound to happen at some point.
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Hm. What you're describing sounds like you have the phone plugged in while you're trying to enter Download mode, which isn't very effective. Try plugging it out first.
Anyway we can have you guys upload DK17 at least for us to flash or odin? I can wait for the final modem...jjst want an up to date rom.
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Why not just release the rom + modem with a disclaimer that it may brick your phone and require an Odin flash? Also, the safety net Odin represents in itself, I think, nullifies any danger from bricking.
And another thing; don't send things to people over the internet and expect them to stay secret.
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Because despite all the warnings in the world people who should not touch things of this nature WILL and then a storm of accusations and mad people will hit the forums... What ever happened to being a MAN OF YOUR WORD? thats the beef
DONT SEND THINGS ON THE NET??? Guess you certainly would not be trust worthy
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Hm. What you're describing sounds like you have the phone plugged in while you're trying to enter Download mode, which isn't very effective. Try plugging it out first.
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Pull the battery and try again.
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Thanks guys. I'm not sure what was happening but I finally got it to work. Back up and running. I pulled the battery walked away and tried again and it worked.
Defiantly waiting for the ok from the people in the "know" before trying this again. Thanks for trying to protect us from ourselves. LOL
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Because despite all the warnings in the world people who should not touch things of this nature WILL and then a storm of accusations and mad people will hit the forums... What ever happened to being a MAN OF YOUR WORD? thats the beef
DONT SEND THINGS ON THE NET??? Guess you certainly would not be trust worthy
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Very well put. I am ok waiting. I don't think it's some big conspiracy. I feel better knowing that the newer radios seem to fix the gps. Now we just need to make it safer to use. Until then I'll just pull up a chair, crack open a beer and roast some marshmallows courtesy of all the flames. Anyone care to join? lol
I'm not getting dragged into another fight on here, the **** with Hero was bad enough, but I will say a few things on this issue.
1. Odin gives a safety net, and it works well.
2. The modem is safe, so long as you're competent enough to flash it right. Thats not a shot at anyone who got a brick from it, but it works fine for me and many people who flashed it successfully.
3. This ROM is essentially **** anyway. I had one of the early leaks of it, and I went back to DJ29. The music player has issues, there are UI bugs in the launcher, the camera & flashlight APIs are broken for everything but the stock camera app, and there's still the lag issue on unlock. This is all straight off a wipe as well, so it isn't that.
4. Sometimes it isn't good to give everything to the public. I don't agree with keeping it in a secret little circle for devs, but sometimes things NEED to be tested and cleaned up before they can be given to the public.
5. As for the whole thing that it was a lie that there are tags from the source in the ROM, I'm not aware of everything, but I have found a few myself. All pointing to one Korean name, who built the ROM originally, and it's the same name as on the DJ29 leaks. I'm sure you're smart enough to find it. Does that mean he leaked it? No, but it is still a liability for him and his career because it was built on his machine & probably by him as well. Some people on here are just selfish and don't realize that their craving for the latest and greatest could cost someone their job.
There. I'm done.
This is exactly why the Epic community is not progessing as fast as the Evo community, the leaks don't get put into the right hands. And progress haults, I understand your concern about bricks but maybe you should post a thread with a request for people to Close beta test and perhaps create an application that can be filled out and submitted via PM to the person in control of the leak, this could help the rom fall into the correct hands that can test and verify a rom.
Thank you.
Well when you released dj29 he lost his job then
Okay so I've got a theory about Motorola encrypted bootloaders like the ones on DX and Milestone. What I'm looking for is definitive information on the droid x lockout mechanism. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Also, if anyone knows of a broken DX to utilize for this experiment please let me know. It involves a hardware based process so a complete functional phone is not necessary. This method has been known to work with RSA encryption so it shows promise. Thank you.
MrKaz
From what I've heard, the "key" so to speak, in burned into the CPU itself. Its my understanding the only true way to unlock the BL is with Moto's keys, which we wont be getting any time soon. Whatever your plan is, I wish you the best. But we've had roughly 20+ of these threads come and go on here with everyone thinking they can crack it, and nothing ever pans out. Its a matter of the right people with knowledge and the right equipment to do the job, but those things have just not come together yet.
Once again, I wish you the best!
You may want to contact @aliasxerog, @_mrbirdman_, and/or @nenolod on twitter as they have all worked on trying to break/circumvent the bootloader. @P3Droid may be knowledgeable as well.
Yeah, I realize there's been a lot of threads on this. Having read a good deal of them I've determined that for the most part the consensus is that it can't be done, or at least not by any brute force means. However, I'm interested in other ways like signal injection and other hardware based avenues. After all, it is a chip and chips have flaws... Maybe I don't know enough to realize what it would take, and maybe being too stupid to understand that it can't be done is exactly what is required...
Thanks for all your input
MrKaz
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Yeah, I realize there's been a lot of threads on this. Having read a good deal of them I've determined that for the most part the consensus is that it can't be done, or at least not by any brute force means. However, I'm interested in other ways like signal injection and other hardware based avenues. After all, it is a chip and chips have flaws... Maybe I don't know enough to realize what it would take, and maybe being too stupid to understand that it can't be done is exactly what is required...
Thanks for all your input
MrKaz
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MrKaz,
+1 to your idea. Hey, who knows what will work.. with all that is going on, I wouldn't be surprised if the one idea that works..is some off the wall idea such as a chip flaw... Go for it man... I say take the idea and run with it.
best of luck
Your idea is one that I have been working on. All that needs to happened is find a way to dump the info to a computer and resign or make a dummy key to patch and inject back in.. unfortunately I have yet been able to inject anything because once dumped and cleared it doesn't regonize still active.. blah DX
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Okay so I've got a theory about Motorola encrypted bootloaders like the ones on DX and Milestone. What I'm looking for is definitive information on the droid x lockout mechanism. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Also, if anyone knows of a broken DX to utilize for this experiment please let me know. It involves a hardware based process so a complete functional phone is not necessary. This method has been known to work with RSA encryption so it shows promise. Thank you.
MrKaz
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Is this the electron starvation method that you speak of? From my understanding, that's a server exploit. Not really useful for a DX.
You want to be gamed up with the isht? #milestone-modders on freenode
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You may want to contact @aliasxerog, @_mrbirdman_, and/or @nenolod on twitter as they have all worked on trying to break/circumvent the bootloader. @P3Droid may be knowledgeable as well.
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Boooooooooooooooo...
_mrbirdman_ & nenolod dropped the ball and jumped ship.
P3Droid is better at BS and espionage than development. I mean, who actually uses tranquility? Or hasn't been bricked by it? Beside, what's been the biggest draw TBH has had to their app? The tether patch? If you were me, you'd be LYAO... LOL
As for @aliasxerog, from what I've seen, I've got very little faith that his efforts will pan out. Unless he stops looking to the above mentioned "devs", and starts working with the milestone guys. Especially yakk, who's probably done the most work on the kexec kernel module(Funny, aliasxerog's src makes no mention. He just says he ported it from the milestone efforts.). Yakk hasn't even released all of his code for kexec, so what aliasxerog is working with is incomplete, and certainly not up-to-date. His source doesn't even compile. Not even on my trusty build system that built the first DX overclock kernel module for Froyo, which jumped off JRummy's DX career(Jared didn't even bother to say "hey, mind if I use the module you built?"). Gotta love the DX devs! They bring so much laughter into my life!
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With that said, MrKazman, good luck in your efforts.
http://www.and-developers.com/boot:boot_chain
You may want to take a look at this. I think it's about the milestone, but it is similar to if not the same as the droid x
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Is this the electron starvation method that you speak of? From my understanding, that's a server exploit. Not really useful for a DX.
You want to be gamed up with the isht? #milestone-modders on freenode
Boooooooooooooooo...
_mrbirdman_ & nenolod dropped the ball and jumped ship.
P3Droid is better at BS and espionage than development. I mean, who actually uses tranquility? Or hasn't been bricked by it? Beside, what's been the biggest draw TBH has had to their app? The tether patch? If you were me, you'd be LYAO... LOL
As for @aliasxerog, from what I've seen, I've got very little faith that his efforts will pan out. Unless he stops looking to the above mentioned "devs", and starts working with the milestone guys. Especially yakk, who's probably done the most work on the kexec kernel module(Funny, aliasxerog's src makes no mention. He just says he ported it from the milestone efforts.). Yakk hasn't even released all of his code for kexec, so what aliasxerog is working with is incomplete, and certainly not up-to-date. His source doesn't even compile. Not even on my trusty build system that built the first DX overclock kernel module for Froyo, which jumped off JRummy's DX career(Jared didn't even bother to say "hey, mind if I use the module you built?"). Gotta love the DX devs! They bring so much laughter into my life!
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With that said, MrKazman, good luck in your efforts.
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I love your honesty!
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I love your honesty!
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Beesley doesn't... LOL
http://twitter.com/TheRealBeesley/status/30036655129763840#
@LexusBrian400
build.prop edits vs. Droid X Froyo Overclocking & AP Mode Tethering
Maybe I should put up a donation link, huh? LOL
P.S. I can't help but think your username is a reference to B-Legit's verse on Sideways... Little known fact: The Ambassador himself gave me the handle FreeWELL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YXGvsbSjLw
Didn't notice that you mentioned jared. I rather like him. Let's just leave it at that...
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Update
I'm getting more and more familiar with this situation every day. I'm also starting to realize what a big problem this is. I've spent a good deal of time pouring over the work they're doing with the Milestone which is kind of the same thing but isn't. Nonetheless I applaud the work they do and donate my CPU to Androinc. After that I've been reading and collecting every Block Diagram, Datasheet, Whitepaper, and post about mbmloader, m-shield, omap, and the like. Yeah, its complicated alright. The fact is though that its just a lock. A lock is a system based on deterrent not prevention. Systems built for mass production have accepted flaws to keep costs down. Chips aren't perfect, code is not perfect. Use the weakness against the system and the lock is picked. The more complex the system the more chances to get in....
Eh, I digress...
Anyone wanting to learn more about this let me know.
The search continues....
Kaz
Motorola, I paid for the Hardware. I can handle my own software and security...
The Bootloader has been bypassed, its just that the custom kernel has no drivers to run.
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The Bootloader has been bypassed, its just that the custom kernel has no drivers to run.
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Well ill drive to help out...as long as someone has some snaps on the petro!
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If this is anything like any other locked software, it's based around asymmetric encryption: Motorola HQ has a super-secret key that they use to encrypt their bootloaders, and they put the decryption key on every device, so that only things that are encrypted with their key will be decrypted correctly. The only way we're going to get the encryption key is by sleeping with the CEO of Motorola. It is - by design - not on the device.
The only way to replace the bootloader would be to replace the decryption key with one of our own or by bypassing it completely(using a buffer overflow or something similar).
As much as I want to believe that this can be done, its close to impossible and honestly not worth the persons time to try it, they did a good, well great, job of locking this thing down but ill say that liberty actually makes this feel like a new phone.
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If this is anything like any other locked software, it's based around asymmetric encryption: Motorola HQ has a super-secret key that they use to encrypt their bootloaders, and they put the decryption key on every device, so that only things that are encrypted with their key will be decrypted correctly. The only way we're going to get the encryption key is by sleeping with the CEO of Motorola. It is - by design - not on the device.
The only way to replace the bootloader would be to replace the decryption key with one of our own or by bypassing it completely(using a buffer overflow or something similar).
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Just take one for the team there buddy.... lol
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what does the CEO of motorola look like?
Enjoy
http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Executive-Team/Sanjay-Jha-31da.aspx
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Enjoy
http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Executive-Team/Sanjay-Jha-31da.aspx
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not it *noses*
Hey all, I talked to koush and he said he was ok with me porting his Droid2/X/Pro bootstrap to the motorola bravo.
Basically it will work the same way as on those devices, you load the bootstrap app on the phone, and reboot into recovery. the phone reboots and clockwork mod then loads and you can install .zip's (like the gb keyboard, etc) do nandroids, install rom's etc.
you cant install custom kernels because of the locked bootloaders on these devices, this is the only drawback.
I am going to need some testers and even better if someone could get me the SBF file for this phone that would be so awesome. Its gotta be easy to find, its been out for a while and its an old software 2.1-update1 that i think is the same since release. Please let me know!
if you want to follow my work or help my github is :
https ://git hub.com/bandroidx - put the space back between git and hub i cant post links either
This should work with 2.2 so even if it drops soon, that is a ok. That wont make this project any less important, we need a way to get a custom recovery booted no matter what.
Update 2/19/11 - I hope to have a testable version done by the end of my long weekend (have off monday) will need testers very soon so keep in touch if your serious about testing. Anything I release will be a confirmed working on atleast 1 device (my gf's) build hopefully.
4-20-11: In final development, release imminent.
Ok i am almost ready for testers. You will need android sdk tools w/ adb and your phone must be rooted.
I need to finalize a few things, a sbf would really help, doesnt someone work for at&t and can get this?
Sent you a PM, but I can't tell if it actually was delivered. Please let me know if you got it. I am interested in testing my Bravo, but naturally, have some reservations. Thanks.
i am so limited by this 10 post thing, hopefully i get out of it fast.
i am trying to test it on a bravo emulation i got going in the simulator too, its being problematic but my gf has a real bravo for me to test on
an sbf would be nice, anyone?
i am asking some people for a sbf, maybe i can see about making a system only sbf like they did for the dx, that might work too.
MODERATOR please approve me so i can post in dev forums! argh!
I have talked to some people about an SBF and havent found anything yet. Someone must work for at&t or moto and can get this, all their stores have it probably to reflash phones.
But until then I need someone who is willing to risk bricking their phone because they are sending it back for warranty work. Yes it could void your warranty but I have never heard of this, we bricked a **** ton of droid x's before we had an sbf and had no problems.
Even better would be someone who is sending it to insurance to rpelace it because of a broken screen or something, that would be a great test unit.
So ask around, find someone for me, I should have a working test very soon.
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I have talked to some people about an SBF and havent found anything yet. Someone must work for at&t or moto and can get this, all their stores have it probably to reflash phones.
But until then I need someone who is willing to risk bricking their phone because they are sending it back for warranty work. Yes it could void your warranty but I have never heard of this, we bricked a **** ton of droid x's before we had an sbf and had no problems.
Even better would be someone who is sending it to insurance to rpelace it because of a broken screen or something, that would be a great test unit.
So ask around, find someone for me, I should have a working test very soon.
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P3Droid seems to be really good at getting his hands on leaked Motorola files. I've asked if he could get a Bravo SBF but was ignored. Since you are actually doing something productive, maybe he would be more apt to respond to you.
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Ok i am almost ready for testers. You will need android sdk tools w/ adb and your phone must be rooted.
I need to finalize a few things, a sbf would really help, doesnt someone work for at&t and can get this?
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Ok, I am willing and able to aid you in any way I can with my bravo. it is rooted and ready to go. I do work for AT&T but only in sales and customer service, so I don't have hands on access to the .sbf for the phone. But if you know of any means for me to get it or request it, i.e. the rout or channel I should attempt to get it, that would be great. Thanks so much for your effort in this and let me know if there is anything I can do.
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P3Droid seems to be really good at getting his hands on leaked Motorola files. I've asked if he could get a Bravo SBF but was ignored. Since you are actually doing something productive, maybe he would be more apt to respond to you.
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Thanks its a good idea, as I already tried it
He cant get it, he only gets vzw.
his reply "@bandroidx I doubt it, no connects outside of VZW/Moto"
if you want to follow me on twitter i am @bandroidx
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Ok, I am willing and able to aid you in any way I can with my bravo. it is rooted and ready to go. I do work for AT&T but only in sales and customer service, so I don't have hands on access to the .sbf for the phone. But if you know of any means for me to get it or request it, i.e. the rout or channel I should attempt to get it, that would be great. Thanks so much for your effort in this and let me know if there is anything I can do.
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Thanks, I am not sure how At&t is but with verizon they have tech support in the stores so someone can bring a bricked phone in and get it fixed (or replaced) while they wait, etc. Does AT&T work the same way? In that case, you could contact someone at the store and get it with a good story to the tech guys. they usually are underpaid and younger kids at vzw and will easily obey any request from corporate imo. I am fairly sure this how most sbf's get out, unless its from like an inside engineering dept or from the manfucaturer themselves but those are problably more rare.
Thanks a million if you can get this that would be great. Otherwise i think we need to hope for someone with a broken screen ,etc that is getting a replacement. I would not want to brick someones perfectly good phone with no way to recover. It happens, even with the best testing and coding.
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Thanks, I am not sure how At&t is but with verizon they have tech support in the stores so someone can bring a bricked phone in and get it fixed (or replaced) while they wait, etc. Does AT&T work the same way? In that case, you could contact someone at the store and get it with a good story to the tech guys. they usually are underpaid and younger kids at vzw and will easily obey any request from corporate imo. I am fairly sure this how most sbf's get out, unless its from like an inside engineering dept or from the manfucaturer themselves but those problably more rare.
Thanks a million if you can get this that would be great. Otherwise i think we need to hope for someone with a broken screen ,etc that is getting a replacement. I would not want to brick someones perfectly good phone with no way to recover. It happens, even with the best testing and coding.
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I think I know a way to get it. Now att does warranty exchanges is they send you a new or refurbished device and you send the broken one back to them when you get it. However, there is one store in my state that doubles as a warranty device exchange center. Basically if you don't want to wait on your device in the mail you can get it replaced there. I think that would be the only store that would have the files. I just need to think of a good excuse for them to put it on a flash drive for me or to email it to me. I think they would be more about to do it if they new I worked for att and I had a good enough excuse. I'll let ya know what I can find out.
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I think I know a way to get it. Now att does warranty exchanges is they send you a new or refurbished device and you send the broken one back to them when you get it. However, there is one store in my state that doubles as a warranty device exchange center. Basically if you don't want to wait on your device in the mail you can get it replaced there. I think that would be the only store that would have the files. I just need to think of a good excuse for them to put it on a flash drive for me or to email it to me. I think they would be more about to do it if they new I worked for att and I had a good enough excuse. I'll let ya know what I can find out.
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Awesome let me know, that is def. a good idea. On a phone that has been out for so long and the SBF is for released software so even though they dont let them go out in the wild openly, they are quite available. [mbm] was surprised that its not out yet for a phone released that long.
Some other good news just incase, i talekd to p3droid again and explained what i was doing in better detail and he is going to try to find this for us. He said he will shake the tree and see what falls out or something to that effect. But its at&t and not vzw, so def. still try to get it if you can without getting fired!
Just never admit you want it to release it or that you released it. I will help you release it to cover you and insulate you further if you want. I will load it up on my french seed box
Ok good news people, I have made great progress on this and hope to have a testable copy ready as soon as this weekend! If i can spend enough time to work out a few things then I could have it ready to test sunday or monday. I am working out ways to test it as safely as possible.
Tenfar who ported CWM to the Defy is helping me on the project, we have found the phones are more alike on the inside than anything else, so his help has been invaluable and thanks to him this is really looking to be something that will work out.
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Ok good news people, I have made great progress on this and hope to have a testable copy ready as soon as this weekend! If i can spend enough time to work out a few things then I could have it ready to test sunday or monday. I am working out ways to test it as safely as possible.
Tenfar who ported CWM to the Defy is helping me on the project, we have found the phones are more alike on the inside than anything else, so his help has been invaluable and thanks to him this is really looking to be something that will work out.
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If you have a system SBF to test at some point, please let me know. I'll be happy to test it for you.
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Ok good news people, I have made great progress on this and hope to have a testable copy ready as soon as this weekend! If i can spend enough time to work out a few things then I could have it ready to test sunday or monday. I am working out ways to test it as safely as possible.
Tenfar who ported CWM to the Defy is helping me on the project, we have found the phones are more alike on the inside than anything else, so his help has been invaluable and thanks to him this is really looking to be something that will work out.
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bandroidx, was just checking in to see if you got my PM. I actually sent two because after I sent each one it said I had 0 sent messages. If not I'll shoot ya an email. Thanks.
Yes i got your pm and just replied.
I have a testable apk but it hasnt been tested yet. I am unable test it on the emulator but am working on other ways to test it.
the good news is i built the whole thing with help from the guy who ported CWM to the defy which is very similar and he thinks it looks good.
basically waiting on a sbf or someone with a device going back for replacement that can boot into the os and run an app (broken scren probably would be good)
OK i have the recovery ready to testi it will be first come first serve for testers. I will be back online around 10pm EST monday night to find some testers. send me your gtalk around then if your interedted.
bandroidx
CWM port to Moto Bravo
I too work at At&t and have an able and willing Bravo to put on the line for the sake of testing, if you still need help, I did use the CW for my Aria, so I have a little experience with it. Good luck, and I hope you guys get this thing going. I'm ready to throw Cyanogenmod on this baby!
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I too work at At&t and have an able and willing Bravo to put on the line for the sake of testing, if you still need help, I did use the CW for my Aria, so I have a little experience with it. Good luck, and I hope you guys get this thing going. I'm ready to throw Cyanogenmod on this baby!
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I have a testable copy that is using code confirmed working on the defy so should be good.
If you want to try it, there is some risk of bricking or needing sbf (which we dont have) but it should be recoverable in most scenarios because of the way the hijack works, all you need is a rooted phone.
if someone goes wrong it should go back to normal on next reboot.
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I have a testable copy that is using code confirmed working on the defy so should be good.
If you want to try it, there is some risk of bricking or needing sbf (which we dont have) but it should be recoverable in most scenarios because of the way the hijack works, all you need is a rooted phone.
if someone goes wrong it should go back to normal on next reboot.
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Hi , I have a bricked Moto Bravo, that is boot looping
So...
I'll be happy to test the sbf and report back
got a link for DL ?
Well, after some misinformed past rumors, I am finally leaving the Evo. I make this thread not because I feel like I'm 'important' or that anyone will care, but because of the community. Despite the past ICS fallout between users and developers, the Evo community has been one of the best on XDA, and can say that it was nice being apart of it. Made some good friends, and a few enemies, but comes with the territory. I'll still pop in from time to time, but I know I will see some of you in my new home, the Galaxy S III [will be here tomorrow]. Do keep the Evo name standing, as its a great device.
See ya around You know where to find me if you need anything...hahahaha
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See ya around You know where to find me if you need anything...hahahaha
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Oh yea. I'm on the grid...just a different sector.
Well, I'm stuck with an Evo for 6 more months, so I doubt I'll be on the GSIII next, but good times here, mate and thx for everything!
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Well, I'm stuck with an Evo for 6 more months, so I doubt I'll be on the GSIII next, but good times here, mate and thx for everything!
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And the same to you man, you got me on my feet so I could actually 'talk' about MIUI, instead taking a back seat educated speculation.
gtfo noob juust messing i'll be over shortly
Awwww, this makes me sad. I haven't been around much anyway, but I'll still miss you
If I ever happen to be on GTalk, hit me up. I doubt I'll be moving to the S III, but I am eligible for an upgrade so don't know... haven't really done my research yet. Send me a message and let me know how you like it once you've got it broken in.
Even if we don't have the same device, I'm sure I'll see you around. You've taught me a lot, even when you didn't realize it, and no one else has been as nice to me as you have, so thank you.
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Awwww, this makes me sad. I haven't been around much anyway, but I'll still miss you
If I ever happen to be on GTalk, hit me up. I doubt I'll be moving to the S III, but I am eligible for an upgrade so don't know... haven't really done my research yet. Send me a message and let me know how you like it once you've got it broken in.
Even if we don't have the same device, I'm sure I'll see you around. You've taught me a lot, even when you didn't realize it, and no one else has been as nice to me as you have, so thank you.
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No need to be sad, and you can always hit me up on gtalk when you're on. You've got a ton of gold stars now, I've lost count. And I've seen you helping others, when you may not have thought me around. And you're very welcome, I'm glad to hear that...made me smile.
I'm still going to be around here, as I have a horded amount of knowledge...this was my first smart phone, and I think I made a great choice. I'll definitely let you know about the review, and can send you spec info.
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Awwww, this makes me sad. I haven't been around much anyway, but I'll still miss you
If I ever happen to be on GTalk, hit me up. I doubt I'll be moving to the S III, but I am eligible for an upgrade so don't know... haven't really done my research yet. Send me a message and let me know how you like it once you've got it broken in.
Even if we don't have the same device, I'm sure I'll see you around. You've taught me a lot, even when you didn't realize it, and no one else has been as nice to me as you have, so thank you.
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Yeah! Where the hell HAVE you been?? (In my nicest voice)
If you're keeping your Evo you can be like me and be a forum whore lol. I'm on 7 sub forums right now, but only following on a few of them and active on 3. Mostly lurk on the others just for info. You can add me on gtalk of ya want my donation email in my profile is my gtalk name, if u got any questions about Samsung feel free to hit me up. Flashing and such is a little different than HTC and will take some time and questions to get the hang of. Got recovery, Odin and mobile Odin for your flashing needs, no more ruu's and no more unlocking bootloaders with an exploit. Odin takes care of those areas. :beer:
We are legion, for we are many.
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If you're keeping your Evo you can be like me and be a forum whore lol. I'm on 7 sub forums right now, but only following on a few of them and active on 3. Mostly lurk on the others just for info. You can add me on gtalk of ya want my donation email in my profile is my gtalk name, if u got any questions about Samsung feel free to hit me up. Flashing and such is a little different than HTC and will take some time and questions to get the hang of. Got recovery, Odin and mobile Odin for your flashing needs, no more ruu's and no more unlocking bootloaders with an exploit. Odin takes care of those areas. :beer:
We are legion, for we are many.
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Oh yea, can do. And actually won't keep the evo [in my possession]; sending it home to my dad. He's on an optimus S and hates it, so big upgrade for him, and will do more than it needs for him. I'm actually pretty good with Odin, rooted a Galaxy S for this girl not too long ago. Odin is different, but its not bad once you get used to it, and mobile odin and triangle away do seem like a good investment.
add me on gtalk anytime, bro
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Breaks my heart. The guy that enlightened me in the ways of android and taught me everything I know and answered all my dumb question is finally.moving on . I might be joining you also on the gs3 when I have my upgrade in november. Good thing about getting a new phone is meeting and getting to know all the new people in that phones sub forum. So best of luck to you in your journey to a new galaxy
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add me on gtalk anytime, bro
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*Salutes* Shall do
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Breaks my heart. The guy that enlightened me in the ways of android and taught me everything I know and answered all my dumb question is finally.moving on . I might be joining you also on the gs3 when I have my upgrade in november. Good thing about getting a new phone is meeting and getting to know all the new people in that phones sub forum. So best of luck to you in your journey to a new galaxy
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No worries man; you've learned a lot. And I'm still gona be here to help out. I'm free this weekend, you can pwn me in some MW3...lol. And you'll have some friends waiting for you.
But at this moment *new futurama*
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Oh yea, can do. And actually won't keep the evo [in my possession]; sending it home to my dad. He's on an optimus S and hates it, so big upgrade for him, and will do more than it needs for him. I'm actually pretty good with Odin, rooted a Galaxy S for this girl not too long ago. Odin is different, but its not bad once you get used to it, and mobile odin and triangle away do seem like a good investment.
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Best investment you can make on a galaxy device man, should be the first apps you purchase once you decide you're keeping the device. Yea Odin is a bit tricky at first, the things you'll probably have more questions with are the dreaded brick bug(idk if the sgs3 is plagued with that nuisance or not, I hope not) and how to avoid it, since its a permabrick if it hits you. The whole method of doing stuff on Samsung is just alien when coming from HTC. Took me a few weeks b4 I was back to flashing like a junkie again with out reading and rereading every step over and over prior to trying something new. I've had a few months with the sgs2 now so if you have questions about samsungs whole crazy zimage/recovery and how recovery is baked into the kernel and changes every time you change kernels I'm more than happy to answer em the best I can or point you in the direction of your answers atleast. :thumbup:
We are legion, for we are many.
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Best investment you can make on a galaxy device man, should be the first apps you purchase once you decide you're keeping the device. Yea Odin is a bit tricky at first, the things you'll probably have more questions with are the dreaded brick bug(idk if the sgs3 is plagued with that nuisance or not, I hope not) and how to avoid it, since its a permabrick if it hits you. The whole method of doing stuff on Samsung is just alien when coming from HTC. Took me a few weeks b4 I was back to flashing like a junkie again with out reading and rereading every step over and over prior to trying something new. I've had a few months with the sgs2 now so if you have questions about samsungs whole crazy zimage/recovery and how recovery is baked into the kernel and changes every time you change kernels I'm more than happy to answer em the best I can or point you in the direction of your answers atleast. :thumbup:
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Much appreciated man, and actually been doing some reason: the kernel and boot image on the G S III were separated so its actually a lot safer to root. In addition I've looked up the G S III root [international version] and actually QUITE painless, even using Odin. Since there were minimal hardware specs, aside from processor of course, but I believe the root will be the same or extremely similar. I originally was going to buy the original galaxy S, but I refused to get the epic with a hard keyboard, so I went with the Evo; though not like it was a bad choice.
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Much appreciated man, and actually been doing some reason: the kernel and boot image on the G S III were separated so its actually a lot safer to root. In addition I've looked up the G S III root [international version] and actually QUITE painless, even using Odin. Since there were minimal hardware specs, aside from processor of course, but I believe the root will be the same or extremely similar. I originally was going to buy the original galaxy S, but I refused to get the epic with a hard keyboard, so I went with the Evo; though not like it was a bad choice.
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That's cool they seperated the kernel from the recovery now, on the ET4G there's no normal boot.img its called a zImage and has the kernel and recovery in the same partition so flashing a kernel changes your recovery. It can get quite confusing going from rom to rom and build to build and having to remember which recovery which backup was made with so you can Odin it to restore we still don't have official ICS or kernel source yet so flashing ICS roms requires first flashing a GB kernel with pure CWM to avoid a blue light of death brick. Talk about confusing, it took me a week of reading before I had the balls to try ICS but now I can mOdin el26+cwm kernel and flash ICS in my sleep. I've been running aokp since march never went back to gb except the few times I bootlooped and had to Odin to el29(latest GB ota) and start fresh. Once you get a feel for it and get any questions you have lingering out of the way its painless but the first few times you're sweating missles waiting to it to flash and boot and praying you didn't just brick, LOL. My first venture to ICS I chewed off all my nails while flashing it, I was so nervous I forgot something and was gonna fry my eMMC chip and be bricked.
ETA: what's even worse for me is I have 4 different manufacturers devices all different methods of flashing and its hard keeping it all straight, going from HTC, to Amazon to Motorola to Samsung and trying to remember which one you flash how is an exercise in frustration :banghead:
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Best investment you can make on a galaxy device man, should be the first apps you purchase once you decide you're keeping the device. Yea Odin is a bit tricky at first, the things you'll probably have more questions with are the dreaded brick bug(idk if the sgs3 is plagued with that nuisance or not, I hope not) and how to avoid it, since its a permabrick if it hits you. The whole method of doing stuff on Samsung is just alien when coming from HTC. Took me a few weeks b4 I was back to flashing like a junkie again with out reading and rereading every step over and over prior to trying something new. I've had a few months with the sgs2 now so if you have questions about samsungs whole crazy zimage/recovery and how recovery is baked into the kernel and changes every time you change kernels I'm more than happy to answer em the best I can or point you in the direction of your answers atleast. :thumbup:
We are legion, for we are many.
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Having dev'd on the Moment, I remember the zimage! Actually the best way to work with adding a kernel to a ROM
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Having dev'd on the Moment, I remember the zimage! Actually the best way to work with adding a kernel to a ROM
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Its just a pain in the ass for recovery, only because every time you change kernels if the new one has a different recovery your recovery then changes. On the et4g we have cwm, rogue and acs custom recoveries, and not all backups are compatible across all recoveries so you gotta try and keep track of what goes with what since we have to use the el26 kernel with pure cwm recovery to safely flash ICS without bricking I use it for everything recovery, but that requires me to Odin the el26 kernel everytime I need to do something in recovery and since I run ICS I then have to flash an ICS kernel to reboot my phone. Its more of a hassle/annoyance than anything just cuz of all the extra steps required to flash/backup etc
We are legion, for we are many.
Do not forget us! Do not forget us! Good Luck in that new Galaxy.
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