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Hello everyone!
Just recently I got the 2.2 OTA for my Droid (rooted) and I'm absolutely loving it, except for one thing: the new MMS app. I strongly dislike the new look; I don't want to see my own profile icon and I definitely don't want to see several of each icon. I really liked the way the Eclair MMS app looked, and I really liked seeing my friends' facebook statuses next to their contact icon.
I've tried replacing the Froyo Mms.apk with the Eclair Mms.apk, which could display everything and worked perfectly fine except for when I actually went to send a message. It would force close and never show that the message actually sent, even though I got replies back, so I know they sent. Also, in order to get this to work, I had to remove Mms.odex. Once I saw that the Eclair app displayed everything and seemed to work fine, I (foolishly) erased my backup of Mms.odex and now I can't run the standard Froyo Mms.apk. Luckily, I did find a modified app that I can use in the meantime, so I'm not totally out of luck right now.
Is there any way to get the old Eclair MMS app/look back? I would REALLY love it! And please don't just suggest Handcent or Chomp. I've tried them and I just don't like them. I went through all the styling and customization options and I just couldn't get it to look like I want. All I want is the old Eclair app back, not alternatives (unless they look almost identical to Eclair's). If it's impossible, I guess I'll deal with it, but "impossible" and "Android" don't really go together...
Thanks in advance!
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I attached two screenshots taken out of an emulator, just in case anyone isn't familiar (why you'd need to see them, I dunno, but I figure more info is better).
Bump. This is a good question. I hadn't really even though about how much better the 2.1 vs 2.2 SMS/MMS app. I knew there was something different but thank you for laying it out. I'm having a problem where the app isn't posting my icon. It is synced with my Facebook contacts so I don't see why it doesn't show my avatar, and if it isn't supposed to then why even change it? No sir, I don't like it. If there is any way to downgrade to the earlier messaging app I would very much be interested in knowing.
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Bump. This is a good question. I hadn't really even though about how much better the 2.1 vs 2.2 SMS/MMS app. I knew there was something different but thank you for laying it out. I'm having a problem where the app isn't posting my icon. It is synced with my Facebook contacts so I don't see why it doesn't show my avatar, and if it isn't supposed to then why even change it? No sir, I don't like it. If there is any way to downgrade to the earlier messaging app I would very much be interested in knowing.
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if its the problerm im thinking of, you need to make a Me contact, and put your picture there
Shameless bump. Still driving me crazy. Hoping there's an alternative by now?
Hey guys....I've had the Glacier for two weeks and I couldn't be happier. I got the OTA 2.2.1 and rooted it without any problems. Then, today I got a "android.process.acore has stopped unexpectedly" only when I go to the phone dialer or contacts. Everything else works perfectly. Earlier today I changed the boot animation and the splash screen...both work flawlessly. I changed the boot animation back to stock and see if that would fix it but no luck. I have rebooted and taken the battery out several times but no go. I checked around and no one else seems to have the same issue. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated....Thanks in advance.
Edit...I just fixed the problem...I had downloaded a Tmobile voicemail app that was causing a conflict. I uninstalled it and I'm golden again. I appreciate the help. Thanks.
I've had this come up intermittently since rooting, and haven't been able to nail it down to one specific action or app, etc. It's happened since doing perma-root, and doesn't seem to matter if I'm running stock ROM or CM6.1 Alpha (which I flashed last night - had this pop up once or twice since).
It's annoying, but hasn't caused any real problems so far.
Would be nice to figure out why it's happening, and find a resolution.
What apps, if any, have either of you deleted since rooting?
Does it write any useful exception information in the log file?
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What apps, if any, have either of you deleted since rooting?
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I haven't deleted any apps...just hid them under general settings using Launcher Pro...the only other thing I did different today was unlock the SIM using the code Tmobile sent me but I can't imagine that has anything to do with it....Just can't access the Phone at all or the Contacts without a force close...I'm stumped...
Trying to figure out a good way to upload a log file...
I think it might have something to do with permissions..it said among other things...
W/dalvikvm*3381):Refusing to reopen boot DEX'/system/framework/com.htc.android.pimlib.jar
not sure what that means....
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Yep, I'm having the same issue. It does it when I'm using a few applications like Twidroid, even ChompSMS, and another one. I'm thinking it has less to do with what applications I'm using at that time (meaning it would do it no matter what application I had open) but those 2 I use 95% of my time on the phone.
& I as well have not deleted any applications only freezed them with Titanium Backup Pro.
Yesterday I got the mandatory Sprint Voice to text update. This really upset me as the main reason I rooted my phone was to get rid of the bloat ware. So now I have Sprint nagware to deal with. So today I installed and set up the Google Voice Mail program and it works really nice. So I decided to delete/uninstall the Sprint Voice Mail Program. I used Titanium back up and I deleted the program. Everything still works well so I figured it was gone and that was that. Later I looked in my app drawer and was surprised to see that the icon for the sprint voice mail was still there. So I tried to drag it into the garbage and it wouldn't go. So I go into root explorer and to to system>app and go down the list looking for a sprint widget that I needed to get rid of and didn't find one. I also made sure that the sprint voice mail program wasn't in there either. So I shut off the phone and started it again figuring that the program was still in memory. Well after the reboot the program is still on my phone and now it's acting like it's a brand new account and asking me if I want to set it up. So this comes to my question how do I get rid of the Sprint Voice Mail. I can't find it in my system folder so what's going on? Anyone else experience this???
Help is always appreciated............
Lisa
You can try to mount your system and remove it via Terminal Emulator. Its a pretty simple process with only a few commands if you want to have a go that route.
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So what .apk am I looking for now? I couldn't find it with root explorer so it's technically gone but this thing is insidious........
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So what .apk am I looking for now? I couldn't find it with root explorer so it's technically gone but this thing is insidious........
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It's a system app, updatecore.apk or such
Not sure what updatecore.apk is but as you pointed out it's probably a big deal.
Driving home from work today I was thinking about all this and then it dawned on me that I didn't really delete the Sprint Voicemail app as I thought. Earlier I was using Titanium and I was about to delete the Sprint voice mail app when I realized that it was telling me it was going to delete "Data" only. So in reality I only deleted the Voicemail data and not the entire program. You are probably correct that this program is securely nestled within the core of the Android/HTC/Sprint package. Truly amazing as this may be one of those things that you cannot get rid of. Unless it resides in it's own .apk somewhere and I can target that one program I'm very hesitant at this point to go after it. The interesting thing about deleting the data is it seems to have reverted back to the older version. A box came up after I rebooted the phone asking me if I wanted to personalize my voice mail like I did the first time months ago. Plus being it's not technically "working" as it's not personalized the sprint genie can't target me for upgrade as it doesn't know I'm using it. What do you think of that idea?
So here is where I am. I have the Google voice mail working and it's a very cool little program. I have a "Google phone number" that is free and actually works but I don't have to do anything about it as my original phone number works the voice mail just fine. So in reality I may have beaten Sprint to at least a draw on this one................
So to recap, I would say, if you don't want the voice to text sprint app you could go into Applications and delete the "DATA" and then it doesn't know who you are. Just leave the sprint voice mail application in the "unsetup state" and the monster "Mandatory Update" can't find you. You have effectively turned off the sprint voice mail that way and then you can install a third party like Google voice mail or You mail or anything you want.
Give me you take on this idea. I think this is whats going on and this may be the only fix to opt out of the Sprint program.................
For future reference, all system (non-deletable) applications are located in /system/app. Use Root Explorer to go there and delete them. I think what he meant was to delete the Sprint Updater, which I think is Sprint_Updater.apk, also in that folder.
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Not sure what updatecore.apk is but as you pointed out it's probably a big deal.
Driving home from work today I was thinking about all this and then it dawned on me that I didn't really delete the Sprint Voicemail app as I thought. Earlier I was using Titanium and I was about to delete the Sprint voice mail app when I realized that it was telling me it was going to delete "Data" only. So in reality I only deleted the Voicemail data and not the entire program. You are probably correct that this program is securely nestled within the core of the Android/HTC/Sprint package. Truly amazing as this may be one of those things that you cannot get rid of. Unless it resides in it's own .apk somewhere and I can target that one program I'm very hesitant at this point to go after it. The interesting thing about deleting the data is it seems to have reverted back to the older version. A box came up after I rebooted the phone asking me if I wanted to personalize my voice mail like I did the first time months ago. Plus being it's not technically "working" as it's not personalized the sprint genie can't target me for upgrade as it doesn't know I'm using it. What do you think of that idea?
So here is where I am. I have the Google voice mail working and it's a very cool little program. I have a "Google phone number" that is free and actually works but I don't have to do anything about it as my original phone number works the voice mail just fine. So in reality I may have beaten Sprint to at least a draw on this one................
So to recap, I would say, if you don't want the voice to text sprint app you could go into Applications and delete the "DATA" and then it doesn't know who you are. Just leave the sprint voice mail application in the "unsetup state" and the monster "Mandatory Update" can't find you. You have effectively turned off the sprint voice mail that way and then you can install a third party like Google voice mail or You mail or anything you want.
Give me you take on this idea. I think this is whats going on and this may be the only fix to opt out of the Sprint program.................
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For future reference, all system (non-deletable) applications are located in /system/app. Use Root Explorer to go there and delete them. I think what he meant was to delete the Sprint Updater, which I think is Sprint_Updater.apk, also in that folder.
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Yeah, that may be the actual name of the app, I don't remember Just delete the VVM app and problem solved!
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Yeah, that may be the actual name of the app, I don't remember Just delete the VVM app and problem solved!
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I meant delete the Voicemail app AND the updater. I believe the app is called Sprint_VM.apk.
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I meant delete the Voicemail app AND the updater. I believe the app is called Sprint_VM.apk.
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Ok.... I thought it was something VMCore.apk
I don't remember. I deleted it and put it back with the name "Sprint_VM.apk". Doesn't matter what it's named, but I think you're right about "VMCore.apk".
Okay Gentlemen, I have looked for all those files and the only one that is there is the Sprint_Updater.apk. Nothing there that has a VM or VVM or Sprint VVM or anything like that. I am running the .6 version of the Sprint stock 2.1. But I believe I have it disable for now. As I wrote previously by deleting the data file I have essentially not activated the program. If you do come up with the file to delete that would take the VVM with it I will certainly give it a try but there is nothing in the system>app folder that looks even close.
I so appreciate you taking you time to weigh in on this problem.
Thank you.........
Lisa
For the life of me I couldn't find what the apk was named -_- Was about to flash 2.1 to find out ha ha
Though I think Regaw's toolbox may allow you to remove it.
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For the life of me I couldn't find what the apk was named -_- Was about to flash 2.1 to find out ha ha
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Just looked, it's:
Sprint_VVM.apk
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Okay Gentlemen, I have looked for all those files and the only one that is there is the Sprint_Updater.apk. Nothing there that has a VM or VVM or Sprint VVM or anything like that. I am running the .6 version of the Sprint stock 2.1. But I believe I have it disable for now. As I wrote previously by deleting the data file I have essentially not activated the program. If you do come up with the file to delete that would take the VVM with it I will certainly give it a try but there is nothing in the system>app folder that looks even close.
I so appreciate you taking you time to weigh in on this problem.
Thank you.........
Lisa
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See above, delete that to get rid of SVVM for good
Well Gentlemen, again I just went though that directory vary carefully again and there is nothing that even comes close to a VVM or "voice mail" reference at all. It's simply not there.
Have you guys deleted this off your phones before? I guess you all are running some other Rom then the stock one so you haven't faced this mandatory update thing. But the files you are suggesting to remove are not in that directory. As I mentioned the Updater is there in two versions Sprint Updater and just plane Updater.
I don't believe this issue is worth you flashing the stock rom just to check it but that is a real offer and I appreciate that. I admire you guys that flash these phones just for the heck of it. When I have flashed the phone it makes my heart stop.
But thank you for all your responses. I certainly appreciate it........
Lisa
mslisaj said:
Well Gentlemen, again I just went though that directory vary carefully again and there is nothing that even comes close to a VVM or "voice mail" reference at all. It's simply not there.
Have you guys deleted this off your phones before? I guess you all are running some other Rom then the stock one so you haven't faced this mandatory update thing. But the files you are suggesting to remove are not in that directory. As I mentioned the Updater is there in two versions Sprint Updater and just plane Updater.
I don't believe this issue is worth you flashing the stock rom just to check it but that is a real offer and I appreciate that. I admire you guys that flash these phones just for the heck of it. When I have flashed the phone it makes my heart stop.
But thank you for all your responses. I certainly appreciate it........
Lisa
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I don't use stock, and yes I have been able to eliminate VVM.... did you reboot after deleting? Are you looking under system/app?
Yes to both of your questions.
I was thinking the same thing that maybe the program was still resident in the memory so I pulled the battery and everything. It's Sprints FU to the rooting community I guess...............
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Yes to both of your questions.
I was thinking the same thing that maybe the program was still resident in the memory so I pulled the battery and everything. It's Sprints FU to the rooting community I guess...............
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Still, it should be removable Is it hiding in data/app or data/app-private for some reason?
Okay, you guys aren't going to believe this. But I rebooted the phone and I checked the data/app and the data/app-private. Found nothing in there. Then I went back to the app drawer and the offending program is GONE! I can't find any vestige of it anywhere. So I gather mission accomplished! I don't know what happened as earlier I did the reboot twice and pulled the battery each time and the third time was the charm for some reason. The only file I didn't remove was the Sprint_updater.apk. It's still there. But I have turned off the updates so I shouldn't be bothered by that either..............
Thank you all for your help. The android mystery continues..........
I really can't thank you guys enough as you have always come through..........
Lisa
mslisaj said:
Okay, you guys aren't going to believe this. But I rebooted the phone and I checked the data/app and the data/app-private. Found nothing in there. Then I went back to the app drawer and the offending program is GONE! I can't find any vestige of it anywhere. So I gather mission accomplished! I don't know what happened as earlier I did the reboot twice and pulled the battery each time and the third time was the charm for some reason. The only file I didn't remove was the Sprint_updater.apk. It's still there. But I have turned off the updates so I shouldn't be bothered by that either..............
Thank you all for your help. The android mystery continues..........
I really can't thank you guys enough as you have always come through..........
Lisa
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No problem! Glad you got it... let me know if you need anything else before I go to my Epic in a week or two
I don’t see a thread like this so I would like to start one
I have noticed a ton of changes in the stock DL30 build and there are still some i probably haven’t ran into yet. I think it would be fun to see what changes people have noticed. . I know a lot of these are in the original leak thread but that thread is too saturated with questions and issues people are having.
I would kind of like to keep it clean so I would like to see lists of changes only and not a ton of questions.
I will start off with a few things I have noticed so far. I have left out some of the obvious things that comes with froyo but feel free to add them if you wish
-Facebook syncs contacts automatically. No need to get friends and then check the ones you want from Facebook
-You can now manually join contacts. Maybe you could do this before?
-You can now use custom ringtones for contacts that aren’t local on the phone
-You can use media files for ringtones
-Can now use multiple exchange accounts
-Can now use out of office for exchange accounts
-Can use pin unlock even though it doesn’t work because it says you need a symbol
-New theme which I actually like.
-Has new e-mail and text counts on the Touch wiz icons
-Can use media or voice tones for alarm
-The sliding thingy when you are typing, makes it much easier to correct spelling mistakes
-Can change fonts
-Media hub added
-Includes Samsung keyboard which I prefer over the others now
-Dock now works!
Only thing I don't like is that you have to enable background data in order to do anything related to data. Never had to do that before.
Anyone got yahoo email setup on the new DL30? I tried to read email (HTML based) from like amazon and other spam I usually get and now it say message too long, cant not display.
Anyone getting that too?
Font changer
No google maps originally
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Pinch to view home screens.
Email count on the home screen is awesome....
jv
Few things I noticed so far:
For exchange accounts it lets you choose seperate peak and off peak sync times which is cool.
The notifications has an auto-rotation on/off button along with your wifi, bt etc. But it doesn't really work with your homescreens unless you install laungher pro or something.
Signal strength has definitely increased.
Also, after I got DL30, I was asked to update camera firmware, and that added a couple of minor changes to camera.
Also forgot to mention that while in Car or Desk cradle the home screen now is landscape. Also when you get calls when on either the call screen is landscape!!! can you say "Awesome"!!!!
jv
And I am sure everyone is dying to know this, they replaced blockbuster with media hub.
Couple of things, keep in mind I was rooted running a custom ROM previously and now have LP running:
1. I like the changes to gmail (I was used to 2.2 gmail from my droid, took me a sec to figure where the send button moved to)
2. For whatever reason, after flashing and restoring apps with Titanium, I was debinged, however, that applies to voice search and all functions of the car dock aside from basic search. Hence, none of those functions work (voice search, navigation, maps. Not a deal breaker..just an observation.
3. The battery icon seems likes it's not even tied to the actual charge amount. Again..no big deal, I use simi clock and I check my battery there.
4. Gallery renders FAST..
5. Market still on old version...hasn't updated yet.
Haven't had a chance to really check any flash websites but will get around to it.
Issue with back button from contacts
Has anyone else had the back button stop working when in contacts?
It worked fine when I first got done with the update, then sometime after sync of facebook it stopped working. Not sure if that was the cause but something made it stop.
Be sure to open up the camera app. New firmware there.
I also noticed some of the bloat apps I had to remove when I first got my phone are gone. CityID immediately comes to mind (which I thought was the worst thing ever!), but I also noticed the Kindle app is missing and someone already mentioned Blockbuster. I thought they were more, but my memory is escaping me now.
The stock music player is also different, but this is my first Android device and thus first experience with 2.2, so this might just be a froyo thing. When I'm playing music and turn the screen off, when I turn it back on to the lock screen, there's a piece of CD hanging from the top of the screen. This can be pulled down to control the music. I never noticed this before, but I also may have never used the music player with the puzzle lock screen. Anyway, it's a cool feature that I dig. If I change to the AOSP lock screen (which I like way more than the puzzle lock), will this feature still be present?
I found a workaround for the Exchange pin issue.
If you setup a PIN before you setup your Exchange account from settings-> location & security-> screen unlock, it will work. You'll still see the message about device security needing to be setup at first but it will start syncing and not ask again.
Hope this helps!
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Has anyone else had the back button stop working when in contacts?
It worked fine when I first got done with the update, then sometime after sync of facebook it stopped working. Not sure if that was the cause but something made it stop.
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same here!
flushd said:
I found a workaround for the Exchange pin issue.
If you setup a PIN before you setup your Exchange account from settings-> location & security-> screen unlock, it will work. You'll still see the message about device security needing to be setup at first but it will start syncing and not ask again.
Hope this helps!
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Thank you, thank you, and thank you!
This was the main thing that bugged me on this rom and i was able to get around it. If you have the security policies already pushed you can go into Device administrator and remove the one for your exchange account, then go change your PIN, after a while your e-mail account will tell you that you need to enable the security policy again.
Thanks again!
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Thank you, thank you, and thank you!
This was the main thing that bugged me on this rom and i was able to get around it. If you have the security policies already pushed you can go into Device administrator and remove the one for your exchange account, then go change your PIN, after a while your e-mail account will tell you that you need to enable the security policy again.
Thanks again!
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Glad this worked for you. As an Exchange Administrator and user, this is one of the best features of Froyo!!! No more full keyboard to enter PIN.
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Couple of things, keep in mind I was rooted running a custom ROM previously and now have LP running:
1. I like the changes to gmail (I was used to 2.2 gmail from my droid, took me a sec to figure where the send button moved to)
2. For whatever reason, after flashing and restoring apps with Titanium, I was debinged, however, that applies to voice search and all functions of the car dock aside from basic search. Hence, none of those functions work (voice search, navigation, maps. Not a deal breaker..just an observation.
3. The battery icon seems likes it's not even tied to the actual charge amount. Again..no big deal, I use simi clock and I check my battery there.
4. Gallery renders FAST..
5. Market still on old version...hasn't updated yet.
Haven't had a chance to really check any flash websites but will get around to it.
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3. Yeah I noticed that also. It was showing all blue but when I go into settings it shows battery at 80%. Oh well.
5. Must have just updated Market because I went in a few minutes ago and it's showing the newest one.
Love this new update.
jv
How can you tell if its the new market? What changed? Also, tried some web sites for flash but doesnt want to play. I'll have to try with a different browser.
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I also noticed some of the bloat apps I had to remove when I first got my phone are gone. CityID immediately comes to mind (which I thought was the worst thing ever!), but I also noticed the Kindle app is missing and someone already mentioned Blockbuster. I thought they were more, but my memory is escaping me now.
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Yup, CityID, Blockbuster, Kindle, the demos for Need for Speed and Tetris and a few others.
I'm wondering if this was an early version of 2.2, before they had a chance to add all that crap in. Would be nice if Verizon listened to their customers and actually choose to leave that stuff out in 2.2.
you have to go to the market and download adobe flash player 10.1
i have noticed SIGNIFICANT battery/signal strength increase.. I was barely able to get 16 hours out of my battery before and now mines been on for 14 hours and its still at 60 percent.. my time without a signal was at like 30% on DL09 or DJ05 and now its at 4% without a signal. much more memory available.. could be because im using super clean tho..
I have managed to get the Black background on Contacts, MMS and Phone apps, I'm using the Inverted apps that were posted here, it works, I needed to remove the secMMS.apk.Odex file in order to avoid the Black on Black issue but it works, I know that since doing that, every time I restart the phone I get the Android is Updating message for a couple of seconds, I don't like it but I can live with it having the benefit of having the Black backgrounds.
So, I have been wondering about the Email App, it's the only one that it will stay with the White Background, and it then feel out of place now. I just saw that in next ShoStock release he mentions that it will fix the Black on Black issue on Email App, so in other words there should be the Inverted App someplace already. Well, I went ahead and downloaded the Shostock Rom and extracted the secEmail_J.Apk thinking that it will do the trick but nothing, then I extracted the odex file and nothing, then I remembered that I needed to delete the MMS odex file in order to work fine but no way with the Email App.
Have anyone managed to have the Inverted email app working? I'd appreciate if you can give me hints, I haven't found anything in here and across the Web.
Thanks.
I'm interested too. We shall see.
Though if you are talking for gmail I am pre5y sure there is a team blackout that has inverted gapps.
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I'm interested too. We shall see.
Though if you are talking for gmail I am pre5y sure there is a team blackout that has inverted gapps.
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No, I'm talking about the Stock email App. And just FYI, I sent a message to Sho (From the Shostock Rom) and he managed to get the inverted email app doing some adjusting to some system files, not as simple as replacing Apps, so this one won't be as easy as the MMS, Contacts and Phone apps.
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No, I'm talking about the Stock email App. And just FYI, I sent a message to Sho (From the Shostock Rom) and he managed to get the inverted email app doing some adjusting to some system files, not as simple as replacing Apps, so this one won't be as easy as the MMS, Contacts and Phone apps.
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I tried installing some inverted and AOSP mail apps and ran into a bunch of crashes myself. I'd be interested in seeing what his methods were.
Would you mind sharing his work or pointing us to the inverted mail app? I've been looking everywhere for this. Thanks if so!!!