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I have a question. I've only had a WM5 device for about 9 months now. I now have Cingular 8525 and for the past 5 days I have left it on overnight only to find it frozen, won't wake up in the morning and the battery drained.
I did the Activesync hack, scanned the notifications queue and did not see any notifications for midnight on the dates the device would not wake up.
Its frustrating.
I was wondering if WM5 did some form of house cleaning nightly. It seems that this house cleaning wakes up the device and somewhere it freezes on and finally the battery gives out. I don't have any backup software going on.. Nothing. I just find the device won't wake up, won't even soft reset. Plug it in for a minute, then it soft resets with a dead battery.
I am going to look at the notifications queue tonight and delete any notifications I see that are for 0:00 and tomorrow and see what happens.
I am hard resetting it Monday and re-installing if I can't figure it out. It has been really annoying these last 5 mornings.
Sometime when I reboot I see a NO GSM message. Then get no radio, then about 10 minutes later I get service. But the password and the userid on the wap data connection has been erased and my bonded blue tooth headset password is forgotten, the device is there but it prompts me to bond with a passkey when I go to intiate the headset...
Thanks for your thoughts
This has, I believe, alot to do with your microSD card - see the link below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284636
Thanks I'll check it out. I do have a sd card in the device. It may be the cause.
Thanks.
I use SPB Backup, to initiate automated reboots. What it does is back up to ur microsd and then initiate a reboot. i do this every second night. which is cool, keeps the fone fast.
Nightly lockups were a pain in the neck for me - I have had 2 Orange M3100 and both suffered the same nightly lockup issues.
I found that 4 things have fixed the issues and i found that all 4 have to be done
1. Fake server trick
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=112638
But i found that not deleting the new server works fine
2. Untick Enable Advanced Network Functionality
Under Settings\Connections\USB to PC
3. Stopping Activesync running when not needed
In the notification queue there are 3 entries to start replog.exe (activesync)
you can safely delete the instruction to start after time change - This will stop Activesync from running.
NB the other 2 need to be there, do not delete any other notification of replog.exe
4. Never leave activesync running so always do a soft reset after syncing or at least before you charge the phone.
Not saying that these will work for everyone but they have worked for me on both phones.
try XBar. It incorporates cron, so you can schedule whatever program to run whenever you want it. Grap a copy of quickreset and run it. It will reset the Tytn at whatever time you set it for. I have mine resetting at 5 in the morning.
You may disable the standby mode when the unit on the external power supply. I have done, and I think it's not a big deal and it does not worth to struggle with locks on wakeups with external power!
I having a sort of similar 'morning trouble' with my TyTN, but limited to GSM connectivity. When I wake up, I am most of the cases disconnected from network with 'No service' message in the baloon. Searching for network is unsuccessful, nothing works until I soft reset the device.
Just a thought: You do have the "poweroff after x minutes" setting checked right?
I had what I thought was the same issue this morning, but it was caused by me unchecking the above setting (I do this during meetings when I'm using my BT keyboard) the previous day. This morning, while it was still dark out, I pressed the power button and nothing (the backlight was off and this actually put it into powersave mode). I pressed it again and still nothing (device came out of powersave mode with backlight still off). Because it was dark when I did this, I initially thought that I had the "won't return from powersave" problem.
machmandp said:
Nightly lockups were a pain in the neck for me - I have had 2 Orange M3100 and both suffered the same nightly lockup issues.
I found that 4 things have fixed the issues and i found that all 4 have to be done
1. Fake server trick
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=112638
But i found that not deleting the new server works fine
2. Untick Enable Advanced Network Functionality
Under Settings\Connections\USB to PC
3. Stopping Activesync running when not needed
In the notification queue there are 3 entries to start replog.exe (activesync)
you can safely delete the instruction to start after time change - This will stop Activesync from running.
NB the other 2 need to be there, do not delete any other notification of replog.exe
4. Never leave activesync running so always do a soft reset after syncing or at least before you charge the phone.
Not saying that these will work for everyone but they have worked for me on both phones.
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I have a similar problem. Every monring when the device is still plugged on the wall charger, it hangs before I wake up. I would therefore miss a lot of calls or other notifications. I have done the defragmentation of the card, but it still doing the same thing every morning.
I have also tried all your steps above, ecept step 3, which I need your assistance as to how to delete the particular file you were referring to.
Many thanks in advance.
marsb007 said:
try XBar. It incorporates cron, so you can schedule whatever program to run whenever you want it. Grap a copy of quickreset and run it. It will reset the Tytn at whatever time you set it for. I have mine resetting at 5 in the morning.
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holy crap, i thought i was the only one that used xbar.. i have been using this program for 2 or 3 years, this is my one and only must have program!! FYI 3.2 beta was released
anyway.. on to this problem, i used to have this on my wizard, what i found was that plugging it and leaving it on would cause the lock up. Now when i plug it in i hit the power button and havent experienced it since on my wizard or on my 8525 yet. and i still get all of my push mails etc.. however i will say that if i get a call or text while im sleeping the device does wake up and the screen stays on..
another program you might want to try is SKSchema... they have several scripts that you can run, including a soft reset at a certain time. I also use the script which allows me to toggle between 3G/UMTS to save battery when I don't need 3G.
"Fake Server" did not work for me
Tried what is outlined - fake server, soft-re-boot, stopping activesync. Not sure how to delete the specific files in the notification queue.
Worked for one night! Next night back to the sleeping Tytn.
I am going to try spbTime to trigger an alarm at 12:01am and see if that helps.
TyTn does not "die" anymore!
The fake server is definitely part of the answer. As is stopping ActiveSynch. This needs to be combined with one other suggestion made on the forum of leaving the unit on when plugged in. This however has the potential drawback of "burning" the screen with the same image as when left powered on.
In addition to Activesynch, the problem is with the Notification queue (again as someone suggested on this forum). In the Suspend/Sleep mode under power, the unit cannot notify and goes into a perpetual loop.
Here is what I did that has now worked for 11 days. I installed spb PocketPlus and placed the "Screen Toggle" icon on the main screen. (According to spb, "Toggle" simply blanks the screen but does not put it to sleep/Suspend). So when I plug the unit in to charge it, I simply "toggle" the screen. The screen is blank (just like "Sleep"/"Suspend") but the unit is powered up. This has the added benefit of allowing you to listen to music with the screen blank.
I have now gotten to "toggling" even under battery power. Miraculously, my intermittent BT and Wi Fi issues have also disappeared. There may be cheaper solutions than buying Pocket Plus, but spb's Pocket Plus is convenient and has some other nice features.
Mortsaver might be a cheaper option?
Active Sync
I don't know if any of you have tried Active Sync "beta" 4.5". Its seems to have fixed many of my problems with connection and some of the issues described here.
flane
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This however has the potential drawback of "burning" the screen with the same image as when left powered on.
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This problem affects CRT and plasma displays (phosphor based), but not TFT.
anyone knows how it's possible to get the gprs connection automatically closed after X secs/mins?
I've already tried this one:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\
SuspendResume = GPRS_bye_if_device_off
CacheTime = xxx (where xxx are seconds before auto disconnect, for me the best value is 60)
and this one:
http://www.gb-soft.cz/xdaii/product_gprs-umts_tweak_wm61_diamond.htm
but no success...
there are only solutions for wm5 and wm6...but not for wm6.5....
any ideas?
tnx.
I've tried this Reghack on my Xperia R3AA 6.1 ROM, but it doesn't seem like I have success either. I'm trying to figure it out, because when I initiate the connection myself, it seems to disconnect properly, but if another program opens the connection while in standby, it seems to always stay open.
This issue started happening for me after installing S2U2 v2.01, which seems to keep the device from entering TRUE standby mode (power savings, not just screen off). A_C is aware as I PM'ed him, because this never used to happen with S2U2 prior to the recently released v2.
I'm still trying to test, but this problem is usually related to some background process keeping the CPU going, so your device uptime never pauses (check with AE Button+, Uptime). I feel like I'm so close to getting the *perfect* setup on my phone, but this battery issue is the one thing holding me back right now...
I can confirm the s2u2 issue, so for the moment I think I'll try to get back to v1...
I've the same issue with wm6.5 slide to unlock screen...
without any screen locker the automatic disconnection seems to work fine.
now I try with s2u2 v1
I don't use S2U2 or the default Windows Lock screen, yet my data connection stays open all the time.
The best solution I came up with was this:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\Phone]
"Flags2"=dword:A
That disabled the data connection while pressing END on the homescreen. Saves time instead of launching the connection managers to end it.
It's annoying and has to eat battery.
Is there any auto solution of disconnecting on WM6.5?
I did not find any yet :/
still nothing?
use de free bandswitch 1.2.any...
it´s great program.
I have a solution that works for me:
HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\
SuspendResume = just delete everything, leave it blank
CacheTime = xxx (where xxx are seconds before auto disconnect, for me the best value is 60)
Restart your phone.
I hope it will work for everybody!
PS. I have a GSmart S1205
As the title says, after 12 hours with a BluetoothServerSocket open bluetooth stops and we have to turn it of and back on again to get it working again.
We are developing an application that runs on 2.2 for a client, we're using 2.2 as this allows us to use a large variety of low cost devices.
One thing our app does is to keep a BluetoothServerSocket open waiting for a connection from our clients custom hardware.
This socket is on a worker thread and so in some situations needs to exit. Closing the connection and trapping the exception does not work on all devices (they crash) and so I added a time out of 5 seconds, check of a thread exit condition, if no exit then wait again.
Any ideas?
Ta.
Hi, I have Windows 8 Pro 64 bit on a Toshiba Portege R830 (Core i5) laptop.
My problem is that if I lock the screen and shut the laptop lid and leave it for a while, when I reopen the lid the screen is all green but otherwise completely blank apart from the mouse pointer (which does respond to the mouse/touchpad ok), and there's no way to unlock the screen to get the system working again that I can find. I have to long-press the hard power button to force a power off, then re-boot from cold. Everything works after that until the next time!
I do have a screen saver enabled (Electric Sheep), but after a few restarts the screensaver is disabled too. Also I have the power profile set up to do nothing on shutting the lid (i.e. no standby or power down) when plugged in to the power.
Does anyone have ideas how to resolve this? I figure that whatever's disabling the screensaver is also causing this behaviour, but I could be wrong too.
TIA
Has this problem recently bugged you or was It present since when you installed windows 8?
I'd say it's been on and off since Windows 8 was installed (RTM Box version, clean install -i.e disk-reformat). When I re-enable the screensaver it seems to behave for a while, but then when the problem reoccurs, the screensaver also seems to gets disabled (which I never do myself).
Sounds like hibernate or standby isn't working on your system. Check for a firmware update. Try disabling hibernate. You'd also lose fast boot, since it's tied to hib.
Hibernate disable: Win-X, run Command Prompt Admin. Enter powercfg /h off
Check available sleep states: powercfg /a
Also, try powercfg /energy for an energy diagnostic.
Portege R830 BIOS version 3.90_160 - 2012-09-12
* EC/KBC V1.60: Improved standby stability.
* EC/KBC V1.60: Modified the power supply error detection method.
>I have the power profile set up to do nothing on shutting the lid
Lid-close action is separate from inactivity. System will still go into standby or hib unless specifically disabled.
I have a laptop pretty similar to yours. I have the portege r835-p56x
I have had this problem but did you check event viewer. I know that some if the drivers will cause certain problems.
The only problem i have is if I leave my computer for awhile, it locks itself and I don't even have it set on that setting.
To add extra info about my setup in regard to your problem, I don't have the screen saver enabled but I have hibernate enabled.
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goldflame09 said:
I have a laptop pretty similar to yours. I have the portege r835-p56x
I have had this problem but did you check event viewer. I know that some if the drivers will cause certain problems.
The only problem i have is if I leave my computer for awhile, it locks itself and I don't even have it set on that setting.
To add extra info about my setup in regard to your problem, I don't have the screen saver enabled but I have hibernate enabled.
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There are two things you can do with the lock screen - you can prevent it from appearing on startup with a group policy change and you can prevent it from locking the system automatically after 1 min (this is the windows default)
To prevent the lock screen from appearing at startup:
press Windows+R (the Run command) and type GPEDIT.MSC
navigate to Computer Configuraton\Control Panel\Personalization
Look at the setting for "Do not display the lock screen" and set it to your preference. It takes effect on the next reboot.
To prevent the Lock Screen from locking the screen after 1 minute of inactivity there's a hidden power setting for the Display you can change in the registry. See this post on the Windows Eightforums: http://www.eightforums.com/tutorial...ole-lock-display-off-timeout-windows-8-a.html
HTH
I found a simpler way. Might not work for you, but, my little sister had the problem. So we looked on every website we could find. I finally gave up, then had the idea to restart the computer using the restart button instead of force shut down. Guess what. It worked...
My dell inspiron 15r 5521 when it shuts down it'd screen goes off but the lights stay on for about three minutes when the screen has gone off the only way to completely get the lights to go off is to hold down the power button for like ten seconds I know it's not good for it but sometimes when I'm in a hurry I have to this computer is like three weeks old so what's wrong with it also how do I keep wifi on when closing the lid is there a registry hack for that? And what is fast boot
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The default "shut down" behavior on Win8 is to reboot the computer and then hibernate right before the login screen. This enables the "fast boot" you mention where the computer can be "started" (actually resumed) in seconds. The best solution to this is just never shut down (seriously, there's literally only a couple reasons to ever do this, and I don't think you're adding or removing hardware every time you run between classes...). Use sleep (suspend to RAM; near-instant both to suspend and to resume, draws a tiny bit of battery power but you can leave the machine that way for a week, usually) or hibernate (suspend to disk, takes a while - though it shouldn't be anywhere near 3 minutes - but then shuts down completely and uses no power at all). As a bonus, these methods don't require killing all your programs and starting them again, so you can resume exactly where you left off (even, for example, resume an interrupted download in most cases).
Disabling Fast Boot (look up how to do it, I'm not going to bother holding your hand all the way to the search box of your browser) would let you power the machine down more quickly, but will make bootup somewhat slower (though Win8 still boots up quickly). Disabling Hibernate will also disable Fast Boot, but I don't recommend disabling Hibernate unless you're seriously short on disk space (it reserves a "hibernation file" that is the size of your system RAM). In any case, it's probably just fine to move your computer while it finishes "shutting down" anyhow, though; no need to wait until all the lights are off (don't bang it against anything while the drive is spinning, assuming it's not using an SSD, but that's never a good idea anyhow).
As for leaving WiFi on while the screen is closed, the most likely only way to do that is to modify the Windows power settings to select Lid Close Action: Do Nothing (it will still turn off the screen, which will save a bit of power). However, this just leaves the computer running and will drain the battery almost as fast as using it. A few Win8 machines have a special low-power mode called "Connected Standby", which is similar to what smartphones and tablets do when in sleep mode, using more power than a full suspend-to-RAM but turning off almost everything else except the radios. If your computer doesn't already do this while in sleep mode, though, you're probably not going to be able to enable it; I believe it requires hardware support.
WiFi turning off when you close the lid is normal. Closing the lid *under default settings* puts the laptop into sleep mode. Sleep mode disables WiFi unless your device supports connected standby, which yours doesn't to my knowledge.
Advanced power plan settings will let you set it so that closing the lid does nothing. I would recommend creating a new plan if you want to do that.
Pausing downloads is exactly why I prefer torrents when available, sadly few downloads are available as torrents
torrents pause when you get disconected?
torrents break up downloads into much much smaller segments (few kb to 1mb max) and download each segment independantly. Lets say a 5mb file gets broken up into 10 half mb files instead. The torrent client will download them individually, if the internet gets cut midway through file 4, when you reconnect to the internet it still has files 1, 2 and 3 so still has 30% of the progress already. It can just continue from file 4. So yeah, torrents can survive internet disconnection, sleep, hibernate and even a complete system reboot (literally, shut down the machine, start it up 5 or 6 days later and you will be almost exactly where you left off). At the most you might be 1mb behind but as torrented files are sometimes a gb or more that is pretty insignificant. And even on a dial up connection 1 mb is not going to take long to restore.
For smaller downloads like a single MP3 track or a word document its not worth it. But I personally have an internet connection running at 100-200 kilobits per second, so if I want to download a 1.5gb linux distro the ability to pause the download is a huge benefit.
Sadly, few downloads are available as torrents, they are also peer to peer so that relies on a peer being available (basically rather than downloading the file from a dedicated server I am downloading various parts from different people who also have a torrent client and the same file).
Too many people also associate torrents with piracy. It is true that you can pirate movies via a torrent yes, but that doesnt make torrents illegal in any way. It is common for very large files to be offered as a torrent purely because of the pause/resume functionality. Most major linux distributions offer a torrent as a major distribution method.
My preferred torrent client is bit-torrent, heard a few recommendations for μTorrent.
Back ontopic.
Done a little more research. Pretty sure now that your system will not have Connected Standby so you are stuck with wifi turning off when you enter sleep mode. Chances are if you had it then it would already be enabled.
Not really sure whats happening with the lights. In order on the laptops I have had access too (including my old inspiron) on shutdown the display would shutdown, then the fan would cut off and the lights would go out and that would all be within 2 or 3 seconds start to finish (usually the display > fan transition was longer than fan > lights). Never seen 3 minutes myself but I doubt the battery drain from it would be significant so I would perhaps ignore it as an odd quirk, perhaps keep an eye on it.
Yeah idk about lights staying on that long because I'm pretty technology savy and we have a 2011 inspiron that manily my syblings use and it dosebt have that problem but I guessing I'll just keep an eye on it but does anyone know of any hacks to keep Wi-Fi on.
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The wifi on thing is hardware. The system almost completely shuts down in sleep mode. It keeps a little bit on to keep the RAM active and a few other minor tasks but for all intents and purposes its completely shut down. Only if your device supports Connected Standby can it enter sleep mode and keep wifi on. But at the moment only intel clovertrail chips support it. I think the haswell may be getting it too.
There wont be anything like a registry hack to keep wifi on. Wifi off in sleep mode is a trait of all major desktop systems. The only major operating systems which do leave it on are probably android and iOS and they are movile systems which never go into a true sleep mode. They just dim the display and prevent user applications from being run (unless they are given explicit permission to run when locked).
If you really want wifi on when your lid is shut. Go into the power plan settings, create a new plan. Go into its advanced settings and there is a section about what action should be executed for various things like pressing the power button, sleep button (if applicable), reset button (if applicable) and closing or opening the lid of a laptop etc. By default close lid will trigger sleep mode. You can hit the dropdown box and set it to do nothing. Even when set to do nothing, when you close the lid the display will turn off. But otherwise the laptop will remain fully powered on, infact if you hook up an external keyboard, mouse and monitor the system is still usable. The battery drain will be almost the same as leaving your system idle for ages, but as the laptop wont be in sleep mode the wifi will remain on. Its worth looking through that menu anyway, I personally rebind the power button to enter hibernate
maybe the “fast boot” i
feherneoh said:
I hate being the noob here, but fast boot does really restart system when shutting down?
I thought that it starts to shut down just like when not using it, but when only the kernel and drivers are still running, it hibernates those instead of a complete shutdown. This would make the black screen appearing after the 'Shutting down' message clear, as it is used when hibernating the system.
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It shuts down, rebooys and immediately hibernates. Then when you go to hit the power button to turn the system on it appears to boot ridiculously quickly because it only has to wake from hibernation. This might indeed cause the lights to stay on a little longer
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But then why do the system slow down if I don't do a full shutdown or reboot eg for 2 weeks?
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Is this really happen after Windows 7? I didn't restart my laptop and only use sleep mode since upgrade to Windows 7. I only shutdown or restart when Windows Update (sometime I force to not restart), software install, hardware fix.
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For me everything slows down after 1 week without full shutdown/reboot, just like on Win7. This is why I cannot believe that it really reboots when performing a hybrid-shutdown.
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What did you mean hybrid-shutdown? And what you did when you full shutdown/reboot?
I'm not experiencing the same issue on windows 8 myself
Hybrid Boot (that's the correct name for hybrid shutdown / fast boot) does not fully shutdown computer. The process is divided into two parts: log off all users and hibernate remaining system/kernel part. So if you have misbehaving drivers/services, then computer can become unreliable after some time.
When you restart computer, even with fast boot enabled, system goes to full shutdown without hibernation part, so this can temporarily resolve problems like above.
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When you restart computer, even with fast boot enabled, system goes to full shutdown without hibernation part, so this can temporarily resolve problems like above.
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Can we have a confirmation about it? Because I enable/disable fast boot all the time...
You r right if you don't want that problem disable the quick boot options in power management......
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A quick google on the issue brings this up
Windows 8 changes this by shutting down as far as closing the user sessions. At that point, instead of continuing and ending system services, and shutting down
Session 0, Windows then hibernates. This is called Hybrid Shutdown. The steps are shown below.
Click Shut down.
Windows broadcasts messages to running applications, giving them a chance to save data
and settings. Applications can also request a little extra time to finish what
they’re doing.
Windows closes the user sessions for each logged-on user.
Hibernate the Windows session.
Essentially a Windows 8 shutdown consists of logging off all users and then hibernating.
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/olivnie/archive/2012/12/14/windows-8-fast-boot.aspx
A full reboot of windows 8 takes a lot more time than the hybrid shut down. When you reboot, the actual shut down procedure of windows 8 occurs, without cutting off power, ofc.
Therefore, hybrid shut down aka fast boot has nothing to do with restarts.