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I am an AT&T customer that uses-- used a rooted G1 from eBay. I called HTC, and they told me the manufacturer warranties on the G1 ended last month.
How likely is it that I could convince someone at the local T-mobile store to help me with a replacement?
I'm assuming not at all likely, but I've read stranger things here on xda. I'm imagining they have the phone's IMEI tied to some grand customer database to show that I'm just some bum with a G1. I do have a friend with T-mobile (and a G1), but if it is tied to the IMEI, they wouldn't just take my phone from her if I paid her?
I'm really not looking forward to buying a whole new phone, but I have accepted that this is probably my only option, so please don't flame too thoroughly.
(I did several searches, but almost none were relevant to AT&T/eBay return combo. Unless I just suck at searching.)
You are right, you have 0 chance of T-Mobile swapping or doing anything at all.
how did it break?
TMobile won't support you unless you bought the phone from them.
I called HTC last week to check on my G1 warranty since TMobile wouldn't support me. I was told (by HTC) that warranty is 15 months. Mine expires next month. Did you give them your S/N to check your warranty?
Though, if it was rooted then your warranty is void. Unless you want to pay for them to fix it for you, don't send it in. I don't know how they know if you rooted or modified anything, but if they find out you will be charged a minimum (triage) fee even if you decide you don't want to pay for actual repairs.
I sent them one that was previously rooted and obviously had been torn apart- no moisture sticker even. Told them I got it that way on Craigslist. Didnt cost me a dime besides shipping (Priority Mail $5) and time. HTC direct rules IMO.
The Triage fee is for them to diagnose it, and is only charged if you are out of warranty, or if it is your fault. The fee also includes return shipping.
I spoke to a rep, and when I gave her the S/N she said it expired on 12.25.9. I'm not sure where she was getting the date considering I bought the phone in May, but it definitely wasn't 15 months. I can't imagine the phone was already 6 months old when I bought it unless it was just sitting in a warehouse somewhere.
I had another idea though. Possibly stupid, but possibly genius, too?
What if I went to T-mo, and bought a phone without a plan. Then switched the motherboards and got a replacement for the broken one. Then I could returned the new one? Is this mad?
Not only is it mad, it would be really obvious what you did since all those void stickers would be removed in the process, as well when found out there would be hell to pay on your end for trying to fraudulantly switch devices like that. As well, the mother board has the serial # on it both physically and electronically, and this can't be changed.
Ah. I guess the good old G1 is going into a drawer somewhere until one day (hopefully) it can be un-bricked.
Since I have to buy a new phone anyway now, would anyone care to throw in their two cents for the Cliq or the X1a as a replacement Android phone under 300 without contract?
You could also get a used G1 off eBay in great condition for about $200. I got mine in perfect like new condition for $200 back in Septemeber, when I was looking they were going typically for about $225-$250 in that condition, but I waited for the best deal(took about a week of watching to get the deal I did). I would assume with the Nexus One coming out and being post X-Mas season, prices are down a bit, but will likely go back up a little come February when tax season starts.
Keep an eye out for a cracked g1 or one with other problems, then re-use the board. I see them on CL for $40-60 regularly (although none right now).
I would talk to HTC and tell them where you bought it and when, it helps if you have the transaction recorded! You should be able to convince them to cover it if you have enough proof. Nothing wrong with using the truth to your advantage.
Depending on where you live, you can find a good number of people selling their G1 on craigslist. I got bored and just did a search now.
$70 w/o battery or cover (sounds sketchy).. $100 in good condition.. $200 unlocked. Seems like the average is $150 around here.
I got mine for 100 brand new shipped from tmobile! The person didn't want it as they got a new phone so you may get lucky and get a brand new one for a real cheap price
I bought a cracked G1 on ebay for ~90USD. I found 2 within 100mi on craigslist, but both were scooped up by someone else within the first hour of being on the list.
I followed the step-by-step guide here to swap the phones' guts and now I have a locked (but not bricked) phone, and a dud.
Maybe I can still fetch a few bucks for the bricked, cracked (screen) phone.
With the Nexus out now I bet quite a few early adopters like me are switching. I got a msg from my buddy today saying once his Nexus arrives the G1 is for sale. He wants $100 for it, pretty average price around here for a working, but not mint, G1
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TMobile won't support you unless you bought the phone from them.
I called HTC last week to check on my G1 warranty since TMobile wouldn't support me. I was told (by HTC) that warranty is 15 months. Mine expires next month. Did you give them your S/N to check your warranty?
Though, if it was rooted then your warranty is void. Unless you want to pay for them to fix it for you, don't send it in. I don't know how they know if you rooted or modified anything, but if they find out you will be charged a minimum (triage) fee even if you decide you don't want to pay for actual repairs.
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Correction, TMobile will not support you, even if you bought a phone from them.
So here's the deal, since I got my Evo the back cover hasn't fit properly - I don't mind too much so I placed a small sheet of paper which gave the back the proper curve and fixed it.
But now I've got a new issue starting to appear - The screen coming loose towards the bottom!
My friend got an Evo and his is flawless, why should I suffer from pre-ordering!?
I work in Chicago, and naturally I went to a Radioshack close to where I actually live - no Evo's, can't help me.
I call Sprint, they tell me go to where I bought it or all the can do is sent me a re-certified phone - that's bull****, the phone is brand new & not even two weeks old yet.
I go to the Radioshack where I bought it - No Evo's, all they can do is call me when one comes in. Also claim they haven't been sent any since launch.
So here it is, I'm a new Sprint customer who just switched from Verizon and they are already leaving me dry. I've got 30 days to cancel all this, yet they don't seem to care enough to get me a new phone.
My phone is brand new and defective, how the hell does Sprint think they can send me some re-certified model!?
Do they have some deal where if they don't send phones back to HTC they get a discount? I mean seriously, if this phone isn't under a manufacturer's warranty against defects it damn well should be!
This also doesn't cover the fact when I preordered, Radioshack told me there was no $10 data fee - not to mention failed to tell me about activation fees and Sprint surcharges!
I asked about it, almost insisting they could be wrong, yet they kept reassuring me there was no charge. I put $50 down on a non-refundable gift card to pre-order, bull**** they didn't know/disclose all costs when I asked! (Their disclosure of costs was "taxes")
If I don't get my NEW phone before 29 days, I will cancel the whole thing and rant anywhere and everywhere until I am heard!
EDIT: Let me put it this way, for all those who don't understand...If Sprint guaranteed me a new phone when there's availability, that would be 100% fine with me, this is not the case, they want to send me a re-certified phone right after I just bought one brand new!
EDIT #2: Here's my logic...the phone is provided by Sprint (to Radioshack), Sprint pays a spiff (to Radioshack), my service is through Sprint (which is paying off the phone), and my contract is through Sprint.
Why does the fact that I bought it at Radioshack even matter!? Sprint is at the core of all of this.
It's like saying a have a 1 year warranty on an Sharp TV that Sears sold me and trying to take care of it through Sears...after that 30 days it's not Sears' problem. The service through Sprint is ongoing and this phone is part of it, how is Sprint not responsible?
You have got to be kidding me with this post right? I guess you assume the magic phone maker ferry is going to make YOU a phone just so YOU can be happy, but everyone else has to wait until they get re stocked because they sold out of all their phones.
Please, just cancel it already, people like this ruin it for the rest of us. How can you not understand that being back ordered means NO ONE is getting new ones right now, they can't just make it appear out of nowhere. Yikes.
lol wow lets give baby what he wants....
Neotelos_com said:
So here's the deal, since I got my Evo the back cover hasn't fit properly - I don't mind too much so I placed a small sheet of paper which gave the back the proper curve and fixed it.
But now I've got a new issue starting to appear - The screen coming loose towards the bottom!
My friend got an Evo and his is flawless, why should I suffer from pre-ordering!?
I work in Chicago, and naturally I went to a Radioshack close to where I actually live - no Evo's, can't help me.
I call Sprint, they tell me go to where I bought it or all the can do is sent me a re-certified phone - that's bull****, the phone is brand new & not even two weeks old yet.
I go to the Radioshack where I bought it - No Evo's, all they can do is call me when one comes in. Also claim they haven't been sent any since launch.
So here it is, I'm a new Sprint customer who just switched from Verizon and they are already leaving me dry. I've got 30 days to cancel all this, yet they don't seem to care enough to get me a new phone.
My phone is brand new and defective, how the hell does Sprint think they can send me some re-certified model!?
Do they have some deal where if they don't send phones back to HTC they get a discount? I mean seriously, if this phone isn't under a manufacturer's warranty against defects it damn well should be!
This also doesn't cover the fact when I preordered, Radioshack told me there was no $10 data fee - not to mention failed to tell me about activation fees and Sprint surcharges!
I asked about it, almost insisting they could be wrong, yet they kept reassuring me there was no charge. I put $50 down on a non-refundable gift card to pre-order, bull**** they didn't know/disclose all costs when I asked! (Their disclosure of costs was "taxes")
If I don't get my NEW phone before 29 days, I will cancel the whole thing and rant anywhere and everywhere until I am heard!
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My situation is similar. I planned on switching from AT&T to Sprint, however, now, I don't know what to do. I have two defective EVOs, bought from Best Buy, and I have called every Best Buy in a 1 hour driving radius from my home in order to locate one (5 or 6 of them), none had any AND they refused to even take down my information to call me when they came in. Basically, they just told me to screw off. I am free to call back whenever I want to check, but they refuse to hold it in store even if I find one. Apparently it's a first come first serve basis, since they already have my money, what do they care?
Best Buy told me to use my warranty, Sprint won't do me any good because I don't want a recertified phone, as mine isn't even two weeks old yet.
And it's sad, because I really like my Sprint service, but I don't have time to screw around driving all over the face of the planet, escalating issues, etc. I just want two working phones, and that's all. I don't want credits, I don't want freebies. I'll even buy two new screen protectors with my own money.
But, 30 days is fast approaching, and once that mark hits they're no longer liable to care at all about my issues, and I have a feeling that's just what will happen.
I'll try over the next two weeks to locate a replacement. Otherwise, I'll just have to cancel (and I feel bad for Sprint, as it's not really their fault).
I understand all that, but where in the contract does it say the 30 days is waved from such circumstances?
Where does it say after 30 days I will still be eligible to trade for a new phone?
You both seem to be missing my point, the contract says 30 days if you have issues or want to cancel, it doesn't mention circumstances such as this.
What makes you think they wont give someone bull**** about the 30 day policy?
I've been ****ed over at least once by every phone provider I've had, I don't put anything past them.
return phone and port out within 30 days, wait for EVO stock to come back in, port back in. You also got free service for the days you were with Sprint anyway so who cares.
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return phone and port out within 30 days, wait for EVO stock to come back in, port back in. You also got free service for the days you were with Sprint anyway so who cares.
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Does it effect credit score?
roybotnik said:
You android users are ****ing pathetic. You think everyone should have to hack their phone and superglue the screen on after paying $200 for it. I can see why the poster is pissed. HE BOUGHT SOMETHING AND ITS ALREADY FALLING APART. You have to sign up for a 2 year contract to get this thing and it falls apart in the first few weeks?
If the poor quality of the phone doesn't make everyone return it, then I'm sure the android fanboys telling everyone to 'suck it up' will. This type of stuff is the reason android will never be taken seriously.
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This is not even close to accurate in so many ways. First of all, he isn't complaining that he doesn't like the phone, he's complaining that he has a defective one and they don't have one in stock immediately to replace it.
Second, I guess you should tell that same horrible argument to the iphone, blackberry, porsche, ferrari, lambo, etc. owners that buy their high priced items only to find out there is a problem of some kind. There will ALWAYS be problems. That's why we have warranties and replacements, you just gotta be a little patient sometimes. This whole I WANT IT RIGHT NOW OR I'M GONNA RAISE HOLY HELL attitude is why companies have stopped caring if they fix things or not, there will always be nitwits and numbskulls who complain even if theirs is the only one to ever have an issue. "It's junk, take it back, don't get one, mine failed!" get real, grow up, and go back to apple land so steve jobs can control everything you do.
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This is not even close to accurate in so many ways. First of all, he isn't complaining that he doesn't like the phone, he's complaining that he has a defective one and they don't have one in stock immediately to replace it.
Second, I guess you should tell that same horrible argument to the iphone, blackberry, porsche, ferrari, lambo, etc. owners that buy their high priced items only to find out there is a problem of some kind. There will ALWAYS be problems. That's why we have warranties and replacements, you just gotta be a little patient sometimes. This whole I WANT IT RIGHT NOW OR I'M GONNA RAISE HOLY HELL attitude is why companies have stopped caring if they fix things or not, there will always be nitwits and numbskulls who complain even if theirs is the only one to ever have an issue. "It's junk, take it back, don't get one, mine failed!" get real, grow up, and go back to apple land so steve jobs can control everything you do.
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Read the post edit, maybe it will clear things up for your ignorant mind!
Neotelos_com said:
I understand all that, but where in the contract does it say the 30 days is waved from such circumstances?
Where does it say after 30 days I will still be eligible to trade for a new phone?
You both seem to be missing my point, the contract says 30 days if you have issues or want to cancel, it doesn't mention circumstances such as this.
What makes you think they wont give someone bull**** about the 30 day policy?
I've been ****ed over at least once by every phone provider I've had, I don't put anything past them.
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The thing is, if you are paying for your insurance plan, they will cover it as long sa you have the phone and replace it 100 times if they have to or upgrade you to the next model up. It's a feature sprint is great with and will go out of their way to help you with. If your phone can't be fixed by simple methods in the store, you get a new one. Problem is, at the moment, there aren't any left in stock, so you may have to wait a little bit to get one. If you like the phone except for the hardware trouble, don't sweat it, they'll give you a new one as long as you own in and as long as you have the insurance plan for 7 a month. If you don't, then add it before 30 days and don't worry about your phone ever being defective.
roybotnik said:
U mad?
It's a ****ing phone. I can see why the poster would be pissed. His device (and SO MANY others) failed almost immediately after buying it and now he has no replacement.
It really doesn't matter what you think - in the end it's a horrible business decision by Sprint. They give people the option to cancel in thirty days, then sell people a phone that breaks in 2 weeks. I think the expectation of having it last longer is not extraordinary.
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That has 0 to do with sprint though, this will be HTC's problem. I'm not mad at all, I'm dumbfounded by the ignorance of people that are posting on some of these issues. Anything you buy could have trouble, if the company that sells it to you is willing to stand behind it and replace it for nothing, why sweat it? It's not like they are saying you're screwed haha you have to pay to fix with ti or live with it broke, they'll fix it for him free of charge, they just have to have one in first.
How in the world this justifies a post of how horrible sprint is and how they are stiffing their pre order customers I have no idea, how can you replace a defective item if you have nothing to replace it with?
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You have got to be kidding me with this post right? I guess you assume the magic phone maker ferry is going to make YOU a phone just so YOU can be happy, but everyone else has to wait until they get re stocked because they sold out of all their phones.
Please, just cancel it already, people like this ruin it for the rest of us. How can you not understand that being back ordered means NO ONE is getting new ones right now, they can't just make it appear out of nowhere. Yikes.
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either u HELP the OP or just go else where.if u dont have anything good to say jus dont say anything at all,just leave the thread.
GHOST99K said:
either u HELP the OP or just go else where.if u dont have anything good to say jus dont say anything at all,just leave the thread.
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That's pretty uppity to say, considering the OP was worthless in making the post to begin with and flat out wrong in saying sprint won't help their customers. I am def trying to help him, by showing that sprint will fix it as soon as possible and for free, but some people just don't get it.....
The issue imo is people come in with both guns blazing acting like add holes and wonder why it rubs people the wrong way.
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That's pretty uppity to say, considering the OP was worthless in making the post to begin with and flat out wrong in saying sprint won't help their customers. I am def trying to help him, by showing that sprint will fix it as soon as possible and for free, but some people just don't get it.....
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You didn't say that even once and nor did Sprint.
I bought a new phone, I want a NEW replacement...that's all I don't care if I have to wait a month as long as I get what I should very well be entitled to (and the current phone doesn't die completely during that month)!
EDIT: Come to think of it you're changing your attitude drastically after seeing other feedback, it disgusts me, you want to put others down and can't take the heat in return.
Neotelos_com said:
You didn't say that even once and nor did Sprint.
I bought a new phone, I want a NEW replacement...that's all I don't care if I have to wait a month as long as I get what I should very well be entitled to (and the current phone doesn't die completely during that month)!
EDIT: Come to think of it you're changing your attitude drastically after seeing other feedback, it disgusts me, you want to put others down and can't take the heat in return.
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Say what?? Tell me, can you do a google search? Can you see sprints insurance policy? Better yet, can you make it to a sprint store and talk to a rep? They will tell you, if the phone is defective and you have insurance on it, they will replace it for you. If it's something you caused, such as losing it or absolutely destroying it, you pay a deductible and then get the phone replace. Obviously you've never been with sprint before, because not only do they stand behind this policy, they do it with 99% of the time no trouble. A quick trip to sprints site and google will verify this.
The attitude towards this issue hasn't changed at all, I simply don't get why someone would state in a thread that sprint is stiffing pre order customers. How can you possibly replace the first run defective issues if you DON'T HAVE ONE TO REPLACE IT WITH. When they come in, you'll get one, it's really not that complicated.
Look guys just my opinion. Don't like it tough.
People that have been doing this awhile know two things:
BuY from a private sprint store and you can run into trouble
Buy from retailer x and if it breaks you can't expect retailer y to fix it
So we act like cheap ****s and buy from retailers that don't have the rebate and we end up being stuck with said retailer should something happen. You can always send your device in to htc for repairs.
if it were me I'd return it, and buy from a sprint corporate store and let it be lesson learned. When you buy **** from third parties and it doesn't work out there can be issues. Sprint can't tell if that device came from ebay, bb or shack. I don't se how they are responsible for fixing what you retailer should fix.
If you want sprint to fix it, buy it from them.
Sprint doesn't make the device so before you start comparing apples and oranges think about it.
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How can you possibly replace the first run defective issues if you DON'T HAVE ONE TO REPLACE IT WITH. When they come in, you'll get one, it's really not that complicated.
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I shouldn't have to have an insurance plan to replace a defective phone that's entitled to be replaced in the first place.
I may end up adding it, but it's ridiculous I should even need it for this particular instance!
Aridon said:
Look guys just my I opinion. Don't like it tough.
People that have been doing this awhile know two things:
BuY from a private sprint store and you can run into trouble
Buy from retailer x and if it breaks you can't expect retailer y to fix it
So we act like cheap ****s and buy from retailers that don't have the rebate and we end up being stuck with said retailer should something happen. You can always send your device in to htc for repairs.
I itf were me I'd return it, and but from a sprint corporate store and let it be lesson learned. When you buy **** from third parties and it doesn't work out there can be issues. Sprint can't tell if that device came from ebay, bb or shack. I don't se how they are responsible for fixing what you retailer should fix.
If you want sprint to fix it, buy it from them.
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Sprint retails to them, what the hell do you mean they can't tell where it came from!?
They register the device right in the store on contract, Sprint pays them a spiff...
Neotelos_com said:
I shouldn't have to have an insurance plan to replace a defective phone that's entitled to be replaced in the first place.
I may end up adding it, but it's ridiculous I should even need it for this particular instance!
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That's such a horrible mindset though. you're telling me you should be able to buy a defective computer, or car, or whatever, and with no insurance plan be able to just have it replaced whenever you want?
If you don't want the $7 sprint insurance, yet another quick search would show you that HTC has a 1 year warranty on the phone. you can send it back to HTC, and they'll send you a new one when it comes in stock. Or, you cna do what most people have figured out, and for $7 for the life time of the phone, take it to the local sprint store and get a new one for free. You think you can buy a laptop with no extended plan from the place you bought it and have them replace it for free if it's defective? You have to send it to the manufacturer to do so, same as this HTC phone. Or, add the insurance, and never worry about it no matter what.
I just don't see why this is so complicated! Go ahead and send it back to HTC if you don't want to spend the extra 7 a month, you can do that if you want, just be prepared to be without one for a few weeks, just like any other product that has this happen....
To me, you sound like the type that would go to a car dealer and buy a car, and if it has an issue after the first month or so you DEMAND a new car RIGHT AWAY instead of letting the dealer at least have a chance to look at it and see if it's something that can be fixed without much trouble. I can't stand those kind of people.
Ok, so I was told that if I bought the best buy insurance that they would replace my phone on the spot no questions asked.
Well... my phone broke (usb is not recognized by any computer, so I think the processor is f*ed).
I took the phone to best buy and they they told me they had to send it in for repair. I was pissed. I then had to pay $150 for a loaner phone, not even an evo phone.
25 days later the phone comes back. They phone is still not fixed.
Now I am livid at this point. The manager is gone from the store so I am dealing with the peons. They said they called the manager and they want to send it in again for repair.
I told them that I followed the process / procedure and it did not work. I asked for them to replace it and they will not.
I told them I know they have power to overide things and replace the phone.
They still will not do so.
I NEED HELP. What do I do? Does anyone have anyone I can contact?
God, this pisses me off. Thank in advance for the help.
Ill tell you this....i had the same deal. Best buy told me the same ****, so I went to the sprint store and after looking at it they told me I would receive a refurbished one in the mail. Cool....its better than paying a deposit especially since I don't have TEP. Now....
3 days ago my usb port went all shaky on me. Took it to the sprint store again still without TEP. This time they replaced it with a brand new one even though it had that new camera (another story). Forget best buy. Manufacture warrantys can protect you.
Two things to take from this....best buys insurance sucks and the sprint store is a good option even without tep. Im waiting on open enrollment for TEP now because I done believe the third time will be a charm. Hopes this helps.
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Welcome to Best Buy's crap warranties. Same thing happened with my Droid. The Mic went dead, they sent it out for 2 weeks, came back with the "Speaker" replaced. The Mic still didn't work. Sent out again, took 4 weeks to finally fix the Mic. I got tired of waiting and got my Evo. The Mobile manager would do nothing. Said you have to wait for 4 failed repairs to get a replacement. I reported them to the state attorney generals office. Get the word out to everyone not to buy these **** plans. I wouldn't take one of these plans for free at this point.
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Ill tell you this....i had the same deal. Best buy told me the same ****, so I went to the sprint store and after looking at it they told me I would receive a refurbished one in the mail. Cool....its better than paying a deposit especially since I don't have TEP. Now....
3 days ago my usb port went all shaky on me. Took it to the sprint store again still without TEP. This time they replaced it with a brand new one even though it had that new camera (another story). Forget best buy. Manufacture warrantys can protect you.
Two things to take from this....best buys insurance sucks and the sprint store is a good option even without tep. Im waiting on open enrollment for TEP now because I done believe the third time will be a charm. Hopes this helps.
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Do you happen to know if this was a corporate sprint store, or a franchise sprint store like 'mobile lifestyle' that just deals sprint? I've not heard of a franchise store doing anything like that, but if one did I'd like to know. Maybe it just depends on the franchise, too.
In any case, yes - it's usually better to take problems like that to the corporate stores. Extended warranties from the likes of Best Buy and Radioshack are seldom worth it on phones (tvs and other electronics are another story, though).
It was a regular sprint store with in house techs to work on phones.
I have my brother's Evo on my account with mine and it's at BB for it's second try at fixing the boot loop. I told him he should have just paid the $35 at the Sprint store for a new one. I'll be cancelling that coverage at Best Buy and seeing if I can switch to the TEP at Sprint.
Awsome, I took your advice and went to the sprint store.
I paid $35 and got a new phone, no questions asked.
A small price for me to pay for making a bad decision at best buy.
Never will shop there again.
Good job man!!!!
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Last time I shopped at Best Buy they pulled that magazine scam on me. I started realizing that every month I would have a charge on my bank account about some magazine but never had the time to check on it. A year later I took the time and realized it was Best Buy who signed me up for it when I had paid for my purchase with my card.
If you google Best Buy scams you'll find a lot of horror stories with warranties and magazine scams.
I worked at Best buy for a long time part time. They (Sales Reps) mis-represent the warranty ALL THE TIME. It works the way its supposed to (according to the pamphlet no one reads), but not the way they present it.......("If it breaks we replace"). I've been screamed on too many times to count.
Nothing you can do until the General Manager comes back or if you deal with a Assistant store manager with some balls. Good luck
Go back to Best Buy with a friend and pretend to buy a phone, when they try to sell you on the best buy insurance video tape it and then you have proof that they lied about their insurance plan and force them to replace your phone.
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I worked at Best buy for a long time part time. They (Sales Reps) mis-represent the warranty ALL THE TIME. It works the way its supposed to (according to the pamphlet no one reads), but not the way they present it.......("If it breaks we replace"). I've been screamed on too many times to count.
Nothing you can do until the General Manager comes back or if you deal with a Assistant store manager with some balls. Good luck
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Yep... even though they do not work in commission they still have a hard time explaining to leadership why the service plan does not sell, and then when it sells its all based on lies.
to OP: the reason why they won't just exchange the phone on the spot its because it hits its revenue: you see, when the phone is authorized for exchange by the service center, the insurance company that backs up the plan refunds the retail price of the phone to the department but when they do it 'on the spot' basically the department has to eat 100% of the retail cost because they cannot send the phone for repairs (even if under warranty) and for the new phone that you are getting. The store might sent the phone back to the manufacturer but the store wont get full credit for the retail price on the device.
The best thing you can do is either locate the original associate that helped you and request the manager from the department or even the store manager and confront the associate in front of the manager OR call customer relations and see if they can help you as they can force the hand of the store manager and allow you to get a new device.
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Go back to Best Buy with a friend and pretend to buy a phone, when they try to sell you on the best buy insurance video tape it and then you have proof that they lied about their insurance plan and force them to replace your phone.
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Hell, I would do that but instead of videotaping it I would just wait for the associate to say that they replace it on the spot and then whip out my busted EVO and say "OK then buddy, replace my busted EVO".
My phone stopped reading the SD card and charging. I have a wall charger for batteries thank god. Took 19 days for them to say yes your phone is broke and you can have a new one. This completed my warranty so I have opt back into the BB warrant again. I said not now. They asked me a total of three times.
The first phone call I made was to Sprint to get their insurance.
....scam me once.
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Now that you got a repair from Sprint, cancel your black tie "protection" and get the TEP. Costs $2 less per month and it's a much better plan. That's what I just had to do with my Evo to get a replacement screen because the touch sensor was all screwed up and it had a white spot in the middle of it.
Best Buy manager wouldn't do anything, so I had him call and cancel for me and told him I'd be getting Sprint's plan. Maybe I'll even blog about it.
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Now that you got a repair from Sprint, cancel your black tie "protection" and get the TEP. Costs $2 less per month and it's a much better plan. That's what I just had to do with my Evo to get a replacement screen because the touch sensor was all screwed up and it had a white spot in the middle of it.
Best Buy manager wouldn't do anything, so I had him call and cancel for me and told him I'd be getting Sprint's plan. Maybe I'll even blog about it.
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Please blog about it, Best Buy is pretty evil and I see way too many people get f'ed over by their scams.
You'd be surprised how many times the customer service number will over ride the store.
Best buy isn't evil. Actually on the outside looking in and on the inside looking out I can honestly say for such a large chain they are pretty decent. Its hard to satisfy everyone. What gets everyone riled up is the way the service plan is sold and the unwillingness to help (in some cases) after its put to the test.
I've also seen customers try to scam the system as well so it goes both ways.
If you know what you are getting into and don't listen to the sales people that are put under TREMENDOUS pressure to sell the service plans (More important then the prduct itself). Then there are no surprises.
Ok well I have best buy insurance. Havent had a problem yet. But wouldnt it be better to copy all your sd card on to the computer. Erase your sd card. Then drop it in the toilet. They cover water damage right? Then the'll be no way they can fix it and they have to give you a new one the same day right? Good idea??
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Ok well I have best buy insurance. Havent had a problem yet. But wouldnt it be better to copy all your sd card on to the computer. Erase your sd card. Then drop it in the toilet. They cover water damage right? Then the'll be no way they can fix it and they have to give you a new one the same day right? Good idea??
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Ummmm....last i checked they don't cover water damage only tep from sprint does
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Go back to Best Buy with a friend and pretend to buy a phone, when they try to sell you on the best buy insurance video tape it and then you have proof that they lied about their insurance plan and force them to replace your phone.
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As much as they deserve this and i would love to do this too i think its considered black mail or coersion isn't it?
I filed a claim 6 days ago and they have yet to ship my device. I am getting really frustrated with their service and will never get insurance through them again. This is the 6th time I have recieved the below email:
Dear Valued Customer
We understand how important your phone is to you and our goal is to get you reconnected as soon as possible. Unfortunately, due to supply constraints, we will not be able to ship your replacement HTC EVO today.
We are committed to working together with Sprint and other suppliers to procure these devices quickly, and will keep you updated daily on the status of your order.
Rest assured that as soon as these devices are available to Asurion, we will immediately fulfill your order. You can expect an email from us each day with information on your order until it ships; or you can always get the most up-to-date status at anytime by going to www.phoneclaim.com/sprint and tracking your claim online.
We apologize for the delay.
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not their fault. htc evo's are sold out atm in most stores.
last time i checked, they were sold out online as well.
How can you hate a company for not having any stock? It really isn't their fault.
Now the real problem is they are charing for something they cannot provide. If anything, ask them to reimburse a month of insurance.
Sounds a little like fraud to me.
Agreed! I'm in the same boat. The crappy part is..what are we gonna do? They have what we need and complaining to Sprint won't really do much. I do know that reverting back to a windows mobile device is a pain in the @$$!
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not their fault. htc evo's are sold out atm in most stores.
last time i checked, they were sold out online as well.
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Actually it is their fault. I pay for the insurance with the understanding that I would get a device the next day and they are not meeting their end of the deal. That is most certianly their fault.
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Actually it is their fault. I pay for the insurance with the understanding that I would get a device the next day and they are not meeting their end of the deal. That is most certianly their fault.
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I agree with this, they could at least offer a loaner or some other way of compensation,not just be "your SOL till we get more EVO's"
I bet they'll still want that $100 deductible too.
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How can you hate a company for not having any stock? It really isn't their fault.
Now the real problem is they are charing for something they cannot provide. If anything, ask them to reimburse a month of insurance.
Sounds a little like fraud to me.
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I work for a production company so I don't want to hear about not having something in stock. If we don't have something in stock you know what happens? We lose customers and money. In our business that is unacceptable and almost NEVER happens. On the RARE occasion that is does happen the customer gets the product for FREE including shipping.
We value our customers and guarantees that we offer. Of course we also keep adequate inventory based on history and forecasts etc. Needless to say my insurance money will not be going to asurion in the future that is for sure.
I'm getting this message:
Thank you for checking the status of your claim. We know how important your device is to you.
We are doing all we can to obtain your device so that we can ship it to you as quickly as possible. Unfortunately, we still do not have your device in stock. It may take 7 to 10 business days from the time you completed your claim until the device is available. We will send you a tracking email as soon as it ships from our warehouse.
Please remember, for the most up-to-date information continue to check back here, on www.phoneclaim.com.
Note: The update displayed above is the most current data available. Our automated phone system and customer service representatives access the same information.
I miss my Evo. Good thing I have some old Sprint phones laying around and I at least have something to make calls/texts with.
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Hey rugedraw...Yea I get the same thing when I check my claim online. What I posted above is what I get in my email everyday.
When I submitted my claim it said 5-7 days. It better not be 7 - 10 days now. Problem is there isn't anything we can do. I've called everyone and they all tell me to gfy.
agreed, not their fault. I've been quite impressed with them over the years. im sure if you want they will downgrade you and you can get a shift and i don't believe the agreement states you are guaranteed a replacement next day, even though that's how it usually goes.
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They told me 7-10 days off the bat when I called them last Thursday. I agree that they should do a better job of forecasting and keep more stock of the phones, and I also agree that there is nothing we can do but wait. I went to Orlando this weekend to take my kid to the Disney parks, and I missed my phone terribly on that road trip. It was torturous! lol
I've never had to file a claim in my life until I created a Family Plan. I recently had to file a claim for an HTC Evo Shift which was dropped in water by a person on my account during the first 30 days. I called insurance and it took them a week and a half to send a phone.
Reps try to sell you a dream in the store and say you get a phone shipped overnight no waiting whatsoever. I know it's far from the truth but I never imagined it would be that slow. The first claim on the HTC Shift replacement I had to fax an affidavit and my ID which I did promptly.
I think it's ridiculous and they already charge $2 more than AT&T does for the same service. It was a big deal because the user of that phone speaks Spanish and we constantly communicate back and forth since he needs rides sometimes. I hope I never have to go through it again. I'm keeping insurance on my lines for safe measure and hope they fix their way of doing business.
You guys are making me think I should just drop the insurance.
Between the $100 deductable, monthly fee and 10 day turn around it doesn't seem worth it and horror stories of refurbs.
I only ever keep a phone a year and HTC should cover defects for the first year.
I have never lost or dunked a phone. But I have dropped a few, but never bad enough to replace.
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I'm keeping insurance on my lines for safe measure and hope they fix their way of doing business.
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If you keep giving them your money they will have no reason to fix their way of doing business. I know I am going with someone else for my next phone purchase...that is for sure.
Gee, didn't any of you people hear about the big earthquake, tsunami, and nuclear power plant failure in Japan. Where do you think most of the chips for the phones come from?? Sony has 4 of their main plants shutdown. No automobiles are getting made. **** ain't going to get shipped if they can't make it. Maybe you should be more careful with you phones. Evos are out of stock everywhere. Its time to stop your whining!
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You guys are making me think I should just drop the insurance.
Between the $100 deductable, monthly fee and 10 day turn around it doesn't seem worth it and horror stories of refurbs.
I only ever keep a phone a year and HTC should cover defects for the first year.
I have never lost or dunked a phone. But I have dropped a few, but never bad enough to replace.
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So, if you dropped your phone in a lake and had to get a replacement, you wouldn't mind paying the full retail price for a replacement instead of paying the deductible? This is why it is called "insurance". It covers what the manufacturer doesn't cover such as accidental breakage, lost or stolen phone, etc... I have it just for the piece of mind that if I do lose it or drop it in a river/lake, that I just pay the $100.00 and get a replacement instead of paying $500+ for a new one.
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Gee, didn't any of you people hear about the big earthquake, tsunami, and nuclear power plant failure in Japan. Where do you think most of the chips for the phones come from?? Sony has 4 of their main plants shutdown. No automobiles are getting made. **** ain't going to get shipped if they can't make it. Maybe you should be more careful with you phones. Evos are out of stock everywhere. Its time to stop your whining!
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This
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cruise350 said:
Gee, didn't any of you people hear about the big earthquake, tsunami, and nuclear power plant failure in Japan. Where do you think most of the chips for the phones come from?? Sony has 4 of their main plants shutdown. No automobiles are getting made. **** ain't going to get shipped if they can't make it. Maybe you should be more careful with you phones. Evos are out of stock everywhere. Its time to stop your whining!
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I feel for the people over there...I really do. But it isn't my problem that Asurion doesn't have phones and I am not a happy customer. Besides we have a plant in Japan that is operational so it is not everywhere that is shut down. I might have a little patience if Asurion came out and actually said this is the problem...as of now I have had no explanation as to why they don't have my device. Just speculation from people like you.
Oh and it is easy to say to be more carefull with my phone. I babied that sucker and made one mistake and now I can't get my phone replaced by the company that I paid to replace it. Just hope you don't make that one little mistake. I will stop whining when I feel I have been made whole for what I have paid for with my hard earned money.
This is what really irritates me about customers. I understand that you bought a $500 device (in your mind, but you paid $200 for it). Yet at the same time, YOU damaged YOUR device, no matter if someone else did it or not.
When you filed the claim, you agreed to the terms. Yes, it says they will ship the new or comparable device to you overnight if supplies are available. You affixed your initials stating that you understand those terms, but decide to whine when it seemingly goes south.
Of course, I'd like to be able to fix every single customers phone and would love it if no one ever had to deal with Asurion again. It's more money in my pocket for the repair/exchange, plus it's a lot less hassle. At the same time, you get what you pay for. You pay the $7 a month for minimal inconvenience so that you won't have to pay full price for a new one.
In my case, the phone slid right out of the holster and onto the sidewalk. It wasn't even a "mistake" in the sense that I didn't drop it myself by being clumsy. Sometimes, **** happens. That's what we have insurance for. Not everyone has a back-up phone they can use like I did and a loaner is the LEAST they can do.
The whole Japan thing is just plain ridiculous. What does Japan's situation have to do with the refurbished phone they are going to send me? Are the phones for Asurion being sent to the eastern coast of Japan to be refurbished and then sent back to US for distribution? No.....they are getting broken phones from people like us, slapping a new screen/LCD on it, and sending it back to people like us. The parts to fix my phone are available on eBay from US sellers. The only people that would be affected by the Japan situation are people buying new phones; not people needing replacements.
I found out some info from TMO customer care yesterday that is interesting and worth knowing.
TMO cut the cost to replace a rooted vibrant down to $115 on April 1st, but the insurance still costs $130. So if anyone finds themselves in my situation (totally and utterly bricked in every sense of the word and still rooted) or a similar situation, it would actually be cheaper to just send it in without insurance, even if the damage indicator is red.
However, if they don't get the phone back within 7 days, then the price is still $455 to replace the phone.
This info is for T-Mobile USA. I have no idea if international branches of T-Mobile have adopted the same policy, and I have no idea if this applies to other phones as well (I am just restating what the customer care rep told me.)
So I can crack my screen completely and it will only cost 115 still? Or is that just for rooted devices? Because if you hard-brick the device, TMobile has no way of knowing that it was rooting considering they can't even turn it on.
Also just got mail that the insurance is increasing by $2 to $7.99 but you get free Mobile Security from Asurion included in that....Samsung Vibrant is only included in PLAN D of the insurance which is $130 deductible and a claim limit amount of $1000.
Confused. So hypothetically if I destroy my phone to the point it doesn't even power on, I can call them and send it in to get a refurb one for $115?
Does it apply only if its bricked? If it's broken physically...like screen or something internal, can I still do that?
Mine says LOSS THEFT DAMAGE or MALFUNCTION...Drop in water COVERED..Keypad stop working COVERED..etc etc..
Okay, I can see how my 1st post could have been a little confusing. Here's what you should do if you need to send in your vibrant.
First and foremost, if you CAN flash back to stock, DO IT. That is still the only sure-fire way of not having to pay anything and still get a new/refurbished Vibrant out of it.
Second, T-Mobile will charge you the $115 if they find that the phone has hardware damage (red damage indicator, damaged screen, exc.), but can still be repaired. So, if your phone has a cracked screen, for example, it's a better idea to send it in without insurance because insurance costs $130 plus an additional $8 per month. (NOTE: The FFC mod is an irreversible mod. You have cracked open the phone and therefore T-Mobile considers that "physical damage." You cannot swap out the camera for the stock one and re-paint the camera hole and lens.)
Third, T-Mobile will charge you the $115 if they find that the phone has been rooted or modded in any way in terms of software.
However, the chances of T-Mobile finding anything out about software modification is unlikely. At the T-Mobile processing center, they have some magic way of taking out the internal SD card without triggering the damage indicator. After they have done that, what they are SUPPOSED to do is attempt to find any data on the internal SD card that would reveal whether the phone was rooted or not (working superuser app, exc.). However, this process is long, tedious and boring as hell so what a lot of employees do is just skip the part where they examine the internal SD card and just format the thing without looking at it. To prove it, when I sent in that hard-bricked vibrant, it had a GT-I9000 bootloader on it plus CM7 and numerous ROM.zip files on it. I was not charged anything for that Vibrant.
Moral of the story: Don't buy the insurance for the Samsung Vibrant under any circumstances. Unless it goes down in price (which I seriously doubt it will), it is a complete waste of money. You will save money by going uninsured. Also, don't freak out if your Vibrant has software on it that you can't get rid of for some reason. In all likelihood, T-Mobile won't find anything.
Second moral of the story: DO NOT think that you will only get charged $115 if you choose NOT to send the broken Vibrant back to T-Mobile. They will charge you the ridiculous amount of approximately $455.18.
P.S. If anyone finds out the way that T-Mobile is able to open up the phone without tripping the damage indicator, PLEASE TELL US! If that info gets out, then I will do that FFC mod so fast you won't know what hit you!
I just walked in my tmobil store and told them my phone was messing up. And they sent me a new one. No cost at all to me except for that 8.00. So in my opinion insurance is good. For us if we have the old insurance is fantastic.
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Do you get a brand new phone as a replacement if you have insurance?
Refurbished, most likely previous phones that were sent in from people like yourself and fixed up.
yah mine was refurbished, but brand spanking new! in my opinion the insurance is the best deal tmobile has!
I actually prefer the refurbished units since they are actually tested and everything should work on it (including GPS, mine locks 8 birds within 3 seconds).
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Okay, I can see how my 1st post could have been a little confusing. Here's what you should do if you need to send in your vibrant.
First and foremost, if you CAN flash back to stock, DO IT. That is still the only sure-fire way of not having to pay anything and still get a new/refurbished Vibrant out of it.
Second, T-Mobile will charge you the $115 if they find that the phone has hardware damage (red damage indicator, damaged screen, exc.), but can still be repaired. So, if your phone has a cracked screen, for example, it's a better idea to send it in without insurance because insurance costs $130 plus an additional $8 per month. (NOTE: The FFC mod is an irreversible mod. You have cracked open the phone and therefore T-Mobile considers that "physical damage." You cannot swap out the camera for the stock one and re-paint the camera hole and lens.)
Third, T-Mobile will charge you the $115 if they find that the phone has been rooted or modded in any way in terms of software.
However, the chances of T-Mobile finding anything out about software modification is unlikely. At the T-Mobile processing center, they have some magic way of taking out the internal SD card without triggering the damage indicator. After they have done that, what they are SUPPOSED to do is attempt to find any data on the internal SD card that would reveal whether the phone was rooted or not (working superuser app, exc.). However, this process is long, tedious and boring as hell so what a lot of employees do is just skip the part where they examine the internal SD card and just format the thing without looking at it. To prove it, when I sent in that hard-bricked vibrant, it had a GT-I9000 bootloader on it plus CM7 and numerous ROM.zip files on it. I was not charged anything for that Vibrant.
Moral of the story: Don't buy the insurance for the Samsung Vibrant under any circumstances. Unless it goes down in price (which I seriously doubt it will), it is a complete waste of money. You will save money by going uninsured. Also, don't freak out if your Vibrant has software on it that you can't get rid of for some reason. In all likelihood, T-Mobile won't find anything.
Second moral of the story: DO NOT think that you will only get charged $115 if you choose NOT to send the broken Vibrant back to T-Mobile. They will charge you the ridiculous amount of approximately $455.18.
P.S. If anyone finds out the way that T-Mobile is able to open up the phone without tripping the damage indicator, PLEASE TELL US! If that info gets out, then I will do that FFC mod so fast you won't know what hit you!
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Well I didn't get insurance to replace my phone in case of damage via rooting. I got insurance to repalce my phone if I lose it, drop it in water, or if it gets stolen.
Also, what damage indicator are you talking about?
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Refurbished, most likely previous phones that were sent in from people like yourself and fixed up.
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Thanks, I have the insurance but haven't used yet. If you get a refurbished phone after paying deductible then its not with it for me, might just cancel mine
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Also, what damage indicator are you talking about?
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it's the liquid damage indicator. it's the white square underneath the battery right by the battery connection. it turns red if it gets wet.
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Thanks, I have the insurance but haven't used yet. If you get a refurbished phone after paying deductible then its not with it for me, might just cancel mine
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If you pay deductible, you get a new phone not refurb. Only time you might get refurb is when you do a warranty exchange. Warranty exchanges are at no cost. Insurance is 7.99 a month but like any insurance, its there in case you need it. You loose, break, get it wet or it gets stolen then you are covered. Just like car insurance, you could pay insurance for years and never use it, but then again if you are in a wreck or it gets stolen, then you are happy u did. Without insurance, you are screwed. Remember warranty is only for a year w/o extended warranty. Insurance extends your warranty for life of phone
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+1 on what he said!
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it's the liquid damage indicator. it's the white square underneath the battery right by the battery connection. it turns red if it gets wet.
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I know about the liquid indicator, but that's not what 30000 was talking about. 30000 was talking about a different damage indicator.
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At the T-Mobile processing center, they have some magic way of taking out the internal SD card without triggering the damage indicator.
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What damage indicator?
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If you pay deductible, you get a new phone not refurb. Only time you might get refurb is when you do a warranty exchange. Warranty exchanges are at no cost. Insurance is 7.99 a month but like any insurance, its there in case you need it. You loose, break, get it wet or it gets stolen then you are covered. Just like car insurance, you could pay insurance for years and never use it, but then again if you are in a wreck or it gets stolen, then you are happy u did. Without insurance, you are screwed. Remember warranty is only for a year w/o extended warranty. Insurance extends your warranty for life of phone
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This is not true, there is a 95% chance that you will get a refurb. All T-mobile reps will tell you that you will either get a refurbished or new device. They will also tell you right after that, that you will most likely get a refurb. I've talked to them for hours and fought with supervisors and such just trying NOT to get a refurb. I know most people think that the refurbished phones are inspected, this is also a load of bs. They are not inspected, they fix the problem that was there and make sure that and ONLY that is fixed. They do not check any other part of the phone.
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This is not true, there is a 95% chance that you will get a refurb. All T-mobile reps will tell you that you will either get a refurbished or new device. They will also tell you right after that, that you will most likely get a refurb. I've talked to them for hours and fought with supervisors and such just trying NOT to get a refurb. I know most people think that the refurbished phones are inspected, this is also a load of bs. They are not inspected, they fix the problem that was there and make sure that and ONLY that is fixed. They do not check any other part of the phone.
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Insurance and warranty exchange are 2 different things. With warranty exchange its new or refurb, cant guarantee one or the other. Most times its refurb. With insurance which is NOT thru T-mobile but thru Assurion, when you file a claim and pay the deductible, you get a new phone.
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Insurance and warranty exchange are 2 different things. With warranty exchange its new or refurb, cant guarantee one or the other. Most times its refurb. With insurance which is NOT thru T-mobile but thru Assurion, when you file a claim and pay the deductible, you get a new phone.
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Nope failed again. I will call Asurion right now and go through the process of having my phone replaced and record it just to prove it to you if you would like me to. They do not send out new products man, I know this for a fact. Think about it man, if they sent out new devices everytime someone called in for a problem, none of the companies involved would make any money on that phone which is what they want, MONEY. That includes T-mobile, Asurion and Samsung. Every electronics store I have ever bought from uses them as their insurance program. Best Buy,Verizon,T-Mobile etc. Every time I've had something replaced through any of those companys it has and ALWAYS WILL BE a refurb. I work for Verizon and guess what, everytime someone comes in for us to call Asurion for them or even if they call themselves they still get a REFURB. I used to work for Best Buy and on top of that I worked in the Geek Squad for Best Buy and did most of the insurance claims when people came through. Guess what, all of my customers got REFURBS. I'm done arguing with you and I think I have made my point.