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So if you didn't pay the $29.99

Would you get charge per kb usage ? Or is the $29.99 for unlimited 4G tethering but we can tether on 3g with a cap of 5gb right ? For free.
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If you can get your phone to tether, either through root or 3rd party software like pdanet, it's free and it's unlimited. No caps to speak of and no way for Sprint to know your tethering.
If you choose to you can pay sprint the $30 and use their built in tethering program. But why pay when you can get it for free?
To answer your question in another way, there are no data caps of anykind on the Evo unless you pay for sprint's tether, then 3g is capped at 5gig, and 4g is unlimited for tethering. On your phone, everything is unlimited.

But I was using my phone today and had just try to see if it would work. And it did. Unless the rep at radio shack added it without telling me.
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I read somewhere that they either forgot to lock it up or overlooked something that will be fixed. Sprint says they will be fixing the issue in 30 days according to news stories I have read. I wish I could link the story but I honestly don't remember where I read it.
I wouldn't use more than 5gigs of 3g with that sprint program. You never know what will happen. Find a good 3rd party program and you will be fine.

Yeah you guys are right. But I need a program that tether WiFi. Not thru usb.
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intristin said:
If you choose to you can pay sprint the $30 and use their built in tethering program. But why pay when you can get it for free?
To answer your question in another way, there are no data caps of anykind on the Evo unless you pay for sprint's tether, then 3g is capped at 5gig, and 4g is unlimited for tethering. On your phone, everything is unlimited.
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Could you please supply source quote to back up that claim?
My understanding is that all data on the EVO is unlimited.

hankyjackz said:
Could you please supply source quote to back up that claim?
My understanding is that all data on the EVO is unlimited.
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Without $30 charge
3g = 5gb monthly cap
4g = unlimited
With $30 charge
3g & 4g = unlimited

mrono said:
Without $30 charge
3g = 5gb monthly cap
4g = unlimited
With $30 charge
3g & 4g = unlimited
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Where did you get this info? Is this just your personal hunch? I asked the other poster for an official quote/link, do you have one to share with us?

mrono said:
Without $30 charge
3g = 5gb monthly cap
4g = unlimited
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3g & 4g = unlimited
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From what I understand, the $10/month that we are already paying gives us unlimited data in 3G and 4G.

4g is the only truly unlimited data right now, the 3g is capped at 5gb per month. Some users were grandfathered into unlimited 3g with older plans, but I believe everyone had to switch to everything plans for the Evo (not sure).
That said, from my days on the Hero forums, some guys were tethering their Xbox 360s and went well over the 5gb cap.. they incurred no overage charges. This isn't a guarantee that the same will happen for you, but others have not been charged. If a larger number of users start breaking this 5gb cap, I imagine they may start imposing overage fees.

I wish people would stop spreading false information. There is official Sprint documentation that states the premium data fee provides unlimited 3g and 4g data. If I find the link I'll add that too. It's unlimited, plain and simple, but for the evo only at this time.
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epphllps said:
I wish people would stop spreading false information. There is official Sprint documentation that states the premium data fee provides unlimited 3g and 4g data. If I find the link I'll add that too. It's unlimited, plain and simple, but for the evo only at this time.
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I also hate misinformation, so I'll back mine up:
http://shop.sprint.com/en/legal/legal_terms_privacy_popup.shtml
The only thing that makes it possibly unenforceable is that it indicates Phone as modem, but not phone data. Technically you are using the phone as modem, but Sprint may not know this when obtained through root. Specifically this clause:
Data Usage Limitation (Mobile Broadband Cards, USB Modems, Embedded Modems and Phone-As-Modem):The amount of data transmitted over our network is measured in kilobytes (KB), megabytes (MB) or gigabytes (GB). Sprint reserves the right to limit throughput speeds or amount of data transferred; and to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if usage either exceeds (a.) 5GB/month in total, unless specified otherwise or (b.) 300MB/month while off-network roaming. 1024KB equal 1MB. 1024MB equal 1GB.
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I found the link, and that link is old news as we all already know about how cell providers secretly cap their unlimited data. This shows specifically that 4g capable devices (Evo 4g) are charged $10 extra for a feature of unlimited 3g &4g data, and that is not the only reason for the $10 fee based on Sprint.
http://www.goodandevo.net/2010/06/repeat-after-me-htc-evo-premium-data-addon-is-not-just-for-4g.html?cid=6a00d83451c9ec69e20133f0c93962970b
If we want to get into specifics of how can they prove I am using my phone in such and such a way...that's a whole different area. As far as the OP is concerned, we will have to see a few months of Evo usage from people who are tethering to see what comes of it. My money is on NOTHING happening. Free 3g data is free 3g data. I can use gigs and gigs of data without even tethering
Okay, another edit. Basically, no matter how much data we use it is unlimited as so many have posted before. We are paying for unlimited data and Dan Hesse has mentioned no caps are there and unlimited is unlimited. Makes sense on why we are going to be throttled starting this summer. I have even tethered 20GB a month with my 3GS on ATT and no charges. Technically, I see the $10 fee as bogus b/c we pay for unlimited data with the basic plan and Hesse has stated it's truly unlimited. The shady area is tethering our phones through 3rd party programs which I say is still unlimited phone data.
What I would NOT do is pay $29.99 for the hotspot (phone as modem) and rack up much over 5GB of data, haha. Until we have clear stated info that the hotspot would be free of the 5GB cap, which I'm sure we won't, I would not assume that involves the unlimited 3g data. Though 4g data should be unlimited with the hotspot.
So danknee, is that more suitable of a reply? My first could definitely be argumentative.

So danknee, is that more suitable of a reply? My first could definitely be argumentative.
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Much better stated.
Where did you see that data would be throttled though? I thought that referred to businesses using mobile broadband cards and was completely opt-in. Maybe I misread.

N1 Castrated! T-Mo throttled my data connection

Got the following text message this morning:
Free T-Mobile msg: Your usage has reached the data threshold for your rate plan this month. Your speed has been reduced for the rest of this billing cycle.
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Sure enough, i'm now getting 96 kbs down / 105 kbs up.
I wasn't aware there was such a threshold on the Android unlimited data plan. I sure don't remember seeing that in the fine print.
Rather annoying that I didn't know this was coming.

I can't say anything about the fine print although I assume there would certainly be some information about the cap but I wish state or federal government would go after telco's who keep claiming unlimited while actually have a cap set.
It's not so bad in your case where I guess it is still unlimited, just throttled, but in Canada if we go over our "unlimited" amount we actually get charged per kb.
Now perhaps if Tmo said it is unlimited 3G data it could be even more frustrating.

Well how much data have you used?

That's a normal T-Mobile thing. Any of the other 3 carriers will shut you off and/or bill per KB.
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RogerPodacter said:
Well how much data have you used?
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This ^
+10 char

T-mobile has a fair usage clause. Basically unlimited means that you get to use what the "average" data usage is from all of tmo's data users. If you go over that, you still get data free but you get throttled. It is to help keep the network from being overloaded. Also Tmo doesn't charge you for tethering like every other carrier and I would assume that by getting that message you have been tethering all month.
I have used about 3gigs of data on Tmo and never had that issue come up. You must really be sucking down some data. Be thankful you are not on one of the other carriers. They would have hit you with a huge tethering bill and the associated data charges!

As far as I know the softcap is 5GB.
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wow. I checked my account with t-mobile and I had used a whopping 10 gb this month! (I usually average about 4 gb but for the last week I let a coworker with an iPhone 4 tether off my line, and between us, we were sucking up over 1/2 a gig a day.)
No more data for you iPhone dude.
On the bright side, my billing cycle ends in a couple of days.

Wow, I'm really happy to see 5GB is the softcap! I just hit 1GB and started getting really worried. All this tethering to my PS3 for Call of Duty is adding up lol.
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I use about 1GB a month...I'll never reach 5GB, but good to know I have some room to spare Definately, Tmob is the best for data compared to the other carriers.

tanman1975 said:
Got the following text message this morning:
Sure enough, i'm now getting 96 kbs down / 105 kbs up.
I wasn't aware there was such a threshold on the Android unlimited data plan. I sure don't remember seeing that in the fine print.
Rather annoying that I didn't know this was coming.
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YESSSSSSSSSS!!!! I LOVE T-Mobile for doing this to the ones that abuse the fair usage of the network! T-mobile made me a happy man today

I thought the cap was 10gb. If the OP used 10gb like he said, then it seems 10gb is the cap.

Why did the OP have an iphone tethered to him? Makes no sense!

The Android "plan" for T-Mobile has a 10GB softcap. Not the 5GB softcap.
The throttling is to 50kbps for the rest of the billing-cycle but it looks like there's a bit of give on the throttling.
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Kermee

worker1 said:
Why did the OP have an iphone tethered to him? Makes no sense!
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Because the iphone has less bars in more places?

I don't get it. If there's a cap then it's not unlimited. If it's not unlimited why is T-Mobile allowed to advertise it as that?

Mokurex said:
I don't get it. If there's a cap then it's not unlimited. If it's not unlimited why is T-Mobile allowed to advertise it as that?
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unlimited data, not unlimited 3g/H as it turns out
I gave iPhone guy access so he could setup his new iphone4, also demo facetime and hd youtube (which he can't do over 3g). I suspect he abused the connection since my data usage more than tripled those days...

Mokurex said:
I don't get it. If there's a cap then it's not unlimited. If it's not unlimited why is T-Mobile allowed to advertise it as that?
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It is still unlimited. Just throttled. 10 gigs is more than generous.

yeah it is unlimited but to keep network congestion down after you use a certain amount of data they slow you down. They don't charge you more though. The other carriers do a real nice tethering charge if you go over a certain amount, saying that you didn't pay to tether and you would never use that much data if you weren't. T-mo is awesome, believe it!

It could be worse. Some broadband providers are throttling users on their home accounts due to excessive bandwidth usage.

AT&T's 4G policies revealed. Will you drop ATT?

As per android Centrals Findings today,
According to the memo, the data tiers for 4G are the same as the 3G plans, namely $15 for each 200 MB or 2 GB for $25.00 (with $10 per GB overage). This means unlimited data in no longer an option, because you will have to change plans. We have no idea how this will affect customers with unlimited data grandfathered in who buy a phone off-contract and just drop their SIM card in, but I would imagine AT&T can tell with a little bit of auditing.
Source:
http://www.androidcentral.com/atts-4g-policies-revealed?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+androidcentral+%28Android+Central%29&utm_content=Twitter
Nevermind, corrected
We can keep our existing plans and be grandfathered in.
Originally Posted by corneliusm
You get to keep your unlimited plan after all..
http://www.androidcentral.com/att-cl...heir-4g-policy

Lol @ AT&T. Instead of attracting customers after losing the iPhone, they scare off existing ones. First $500 for Atrix dock, now the stupidly overprives $25/2GB data.
And that after the first Atrix reviews that showed that AT&T's "4G" is actually slower than their 3G. Oh yeah, awesome upgrade.
Rephrasing the famous phrase.. "Enough is enough. I've HAD IT with these MOTHERF***ING policies on this MOTHERF***ING AT&T."
So far it's either VZW or TMo for me. Since I travel a lot, most likely TMo with their unlim data plan, when Pyramid comes out.

i've been in contact with at&t.
they have stated that i can bring my grandfathered unlimited data plan over along with a new 2 year contact agreement if i decide to get the atrix.
if i want to tether, i would need to change my data plan.
this is from an online chat. and who knows, maybe this policy will change in the upcoming days.

i have seen this mentioned on a number of other forums. apparently grandfathered plans are fine.
so nothing really changes...

Androidandme is reporting (I'd link directly, but can't do it yet) that an AT&T rep has contacted them to clarify the 4G policy:
We were just contacted by a representative from AT&T who saw our post about the leaked 4G policy memo, and wanted to clarify a very important point about their new 4G plans. I quote:
Customers who currently have an unlimited plan can upgrade to a 4G device and keep their unlimited plans.​
They did not dispute the validity of the leaked memo, but they were kind enough to tell us a part of the story that the original leak missed. So put away those pitchforks. Thanks for the clarification AT&T!
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So, yeah: no need to panic.

I wasn't lucky enough to be grandfathered into the unlimited plan. I currently have the $15 200mb for my Samsung Captivate. Assuming I upgrade to the Atrix, am I going to have to pay an additional $15 to get 200mb of 4g, making the total for data $30 for 400mbs?

Battleship said:
Androidandme is reporting (I'd link directly, but can't do it yet) that an AT&T rep has contacted them to clarify the 4G policy:
So, yeah: no need to panic.
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Thats if you had the unlimited data before, not all of us do...

degenerazn said:
I wasn't lucky enough to be grandfathered into the unlimited plan. I currently have the $15 200mb for my Samsung Captivate. Assuming I upgrade to the Atrix, am I going to have to pay an additional $15 to get 200mb of 4g, making the total for data $30 for 400mbs?
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No. Your plan will remain unchanged.
dreadlord369 said:
Thats if you had the unlimited data before, not all of us do...
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Right you are. Unfortunately, AT&T eliminated the unlimited plan a long time ago; really, I'm surprised the new 4G policy isn't going to kick out everyone who still has it.

If I didn't have unlimited data or couldn't keep it there is no way in hell I would buy the Atrix.

Appears we may have jumped the gun...
You get to keep your unlimited plan after all..
http://www.androidcentral.com/att-clarifies-their-4g-policy

corneliusm said:
You get to keep your unlimited plan after all..
http://www.androidcentral.com/att-clarifies-their-4g-policy
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Yeah saw this on my twitter at the gym, was gonna update it but you beat me to it.

smitty1 said:
If I didn't have unlimited data or couldn't keep it there is no way in hell I would buy the Atrix.
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I couldn't agree more! I'm so glad that I overpaid for unlimited back when I didn't use much data. Still, $90/mo for two lines of unlimited data and unlimited messaging is a lot, so glad that AT&T announced unlimited mobile to mobile so I can drop my minutes!
I'm never leaving AT&T until another carrier gets real unlimited data. Good things cell execs underestimated how much data we can use!

Battleship said:
No. Your plan will remain unchanged.
Right you are. Unfortunately, AT&T eliminated the unlimited plan a long time ago; really, I'm surprised the new 4G policy isn't going to kick out everyone who still has it.
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I've been grandfathered in on the unlimited plan for quite some time now. When I got my Captivate last July, the sales rep tried to convince me I HAD to change my data plan to the new pricing scheme. Thankfully, it ain't happen.

Even if you went somewhere else, almost all the operators are moving to this type of plan.
2Gigs of data is quite alot, unless you are using it for your main internet connection for your house. I've been on the 2Gig plan for about a year now, and I rarely go above 600-700 meg with lots of audio streaming (sirius/xm, pandora) and Uverse TV to go, and some tethering from time to time.

smitty1 said:
If I didn't have unlimited data or couldn't keep it there is no way in hell I would buy the Atrix.
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werd
i was ready to pay ETF and get the F out of ATT after i saw the original leaked memo

Squeak22 said:
Even if you went somewhere else, almost all the operators are moving to this type of plan.
2Gigs of data is quite alot, unless you are using it for your main internet connection for your house. I've been on the 2Gig plan for about a year now, and I rarely go above 600-700 meg with lots of audio streaming (sirius/xm, pandora) and Uverse TV to go, and some tethering from time to time.
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t-mobile & verizon throttles you, you can get around it on t mobile
sprint is still unlimited
2GB is not alot, how you use it is your problem, while the rest of us that has the unlimited, pay *more* ($30 vs $25) and being loyal to ATT, we want to get what we are ENTITLED to

Does "an unlimited plan" refer to a smart phone unlimited or any unlimited?
Because, I have a regular unlimited plan for $10 a month, and would like to keep it lol.

MXIIA said:
Does "an unlimited plan" refer to a smart phone unlimited or any unlimited?
Because, I have a regular unlimited plan for $10 a month, and would like to keep it lol.
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Negative. Featurephone/dumbphone unlimited data doesn't transfer over to smartphones. The only way I could see to get around that is to buy a phone off contract and pop your SIM card in it. You'd probably have to hack the phone to have it report as something else, though, otherwise ATT would catch it.
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When T-mobile's HTC Pyramid is out....I'll defiantly switch to T-mobile!!!!

johnnydeathmatch said:
Negative. Featurephone/dumbphone unlimited data doesn't transfer over to smartphones. The only way I could see to get around that is to buy a phone off contract and pop your SIM card in it. You'd probably have to hack the phone to have it report as something else, though, otherwise ATT would catch it.
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you can buy a phone not in att device databse and they will not know unless you tell them that is any decice that they dont sell

[Q] AT&T trying to screw me on my data plan

I had an iPhone4 before I got my atrix and I had unlimited data on my iphone, so I bought my atrix without a contract in order to keep that data plan. I received the following text message this morning:
Did you know an eligible data plan is required for your 4G smartphone? Pls call 611 to select a plan and establish your 4g data connection today​
Right now i am beyond angry because it seems like they are just trying to take away my unlimited data. The reason I say this is because the iPhone 4 does the handshaking to get true HSUPA and my phone does not. Therefore I am paying for a plan with a service that doesnt even exist, where my original plan (for the iphone 4) actually covers HSUPA. Does anyone know a way around this? I definitely dont want to lose my unlimited data. Is there anyway to get out of my contract? I would just as soon switch carriers before giving into paying for a crappy data plan (no offense to anyone who has the plan, you just didnt have the option ) on a crappy carrier.
Thanks for the help in advance.

go on their website att.com
you can actually select an unlimited 4g plan i m pretty sure
pick it and report back

I switched from iPhone unlimited to Android unlimited - they will let you do that. But you will not get HSUPA until the phone is updated.

alphadog00 said:
You will not get HSUPA until the phone is updated.
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by motorola, att has nothing to do with it

They don't want the unlimited plans out there. The are going to force all non I-phone users to go to tiered plans. Once they take it off, you will not be able to get them to give it back either. If you don't go with the tiered plan, when u use the non iphone device, they will throttle your throughput at 2 gb. It is a horrible decrease in speed. Still have unlimited, only it is extremely frustrating when you hit the 2 gb limit. Remeber, in AT&T's eyes, it's not about you.

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They don't want the unlimited plans out there. The are going to force all non I-phone users to go to tiered plans. Once they take it off, you will not be able to get them to give it back either. If you don't go with the tiered plan, when u use the non iphone device, they will throttle your throughput at 2 gb. It is a horrible decrease in speed. Still have unlimited, only it is extremely frustrating when you hit the 2 gb limit. Remeber, in AT&T's eyes, it's not about you.
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Yeah, it almost makes me want to switch to a tiered plan and just pay the $10 for an extra GB if I need it and avoid the throttling. It's quite frustrating. Makes me really want to switch to Sprint.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/12/sprints-dan-hesse-differentiates-between-unlimited-and-unlimit/
http://androidcommunity.com/motorola-atrix-xoom-headed-to-sprint-with-wimax-4g-rumor-20110317/

They will grandfather you into the unlimited plan.. you didn't have to buy off contract to so that...
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mrphil101 said:
They don't want the unlimited plans out there. The are going to force all non I-phone users to go to tiered plans. Once they take it off, you will not be able to get them to give it back either. If you don't go with the tiered plan, when u use the non iphone device, they will throttle your throughput at 2 gb. It is a horrible decrease in speed. Still have unlimited, only it is extremely frustrating when you hit the 2 gb limit. Remeber, in AT&T's eyes, it's not about you.
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proof?
I've been using my old iPhone unlimited data plan since last year when I picked up the Nexus One. I am still using my unlimited data plan with my Motorola Atrix. My speeds aren't throttled (except HSUPA which is NOT due to me being on an unlimited plan) and I have gone above 2GB several times since switching to Android and have not been charged for it, penalized, or had my speeds throttled.
OP: AT&T will let you keep your unlimited iPhone data plan for your Atrix. I have it, many others on this forum have it.

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proof?
I've been using my old iPhone unlimited data plan since last year when I picked up the Nexus One. I am still using my unlimited data plan with my Motorola Atrix. My speeds aren't throttled (except HSUPA which is NOT due to me being on an unlimited plan) and I have gone above 2GB several times since switching to Android and have not been charged for it, penalized, or had my speeds throttled.
OP: AT&T will let you keep your unlimited iPhone data plan for your Atrix. I have it, many others on this forum have it.
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some crazy dudes with an iphone was pulling 90gb/ month
a little much if u ask me ....
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1119791

it's most likely because you didn't switch your current data plan to a non-iphone smartphone plan. they are different plans in the way that they handle data. you can keep your unlimited when switching across data plan types (i.e. i went from BB data plan to regular smartphone unlimited). but since you didn't switch it over, they flagged you since your IMEI gives up that you are no longer using an iPhone.
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My speeds aren't throttled (except HSUPA which is NOT due to me being on an unlimited plan) and I have gone above 2GB several times since switching to Android and have not been charged for it, penalized, or had my speeds throttled.
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The cap for unlimited is 5GB, not 2GB.

like others have said they will switch you to an unlimited non iphone data plan. same thing happened to me. the rep said "oh we dont offer the unlimited plan anymore" I told her that I should be grandfathered in since I had the unlimited plan before, she put me on hold, then 5 min later she came back and said i was right and put me on the unlimited non iphone plan

dLo GSR said:
it's most likely because you didn't switch your current data plan to a non-iphone smartphone plan. they are different plans in the way that they handle data. you can keep your unlimited when switching across data plan types (i.e. i went from BB data plan to regular smartphone unlimited). but since you didn't switch it over, they flagged you since your IMEI gives up that you are no longer using an iPhone.
The cap for unlimited is 5GB, not 2GB.
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like others have said they will switch you to an unlimited non iphone data plan. same thing happened to me. the rep said "oh we dont offer the unlimited plan anymore" I told her that I should be grandfathered in since I had the unlimited plan before, she put me on hold, then 5 min later she came back and said i was right and put me on the unlimited non iphone plan
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I'm sorry but I keep laughing about this. It's just funny it is being referred to as "non-iphone plan".
That should be Apple's new slogan:
"Because if you don't have an iPhone, you have a non-iPhone"

I have unlimited...
When I went to the AT&T store last week to get my Atrix, I specifically asked them if we would have to get a new plan for 4G, or could we keep our grandfathered unlimited plan from my iPhone. She told me there was no extra charge, and gave me a 4G sim card to boot! I am not in a 4G area, so I won't know if I will get charged or not, but the store rep told me that even if I used 4G, I wouldn't have to pay any other extra fees.

Unlimited data plans are also for 3g ONLY! Not sure if that was mentioned. If you lucky enough to live in an area where H+ is live you have to go to the 2gb or 4gb data plan to get those speeds, which right now are barely faster than 3g download and the upload is horrible.
You also didnt have to buy the phone out of contract. I bought mine with my upgrade for $200 and was grand fathered over too my 3g data plan which is called the Smart phone unlimited.
Verizon with there 17-20mb download on there LTE network is looking pretty good now. But thats still not even live in my area so it doesnt madder.

live4nyy said:
I'm sorry but I keep laughing about this. It's just funny it is being referred to as "non-iphone plan".
That should be Apple's new slogan:
"Because if you don't have an iPhone, you have a non-iPhone"
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Well the OP stated that he had an iPhone before. If he had a BB before, I would have said a "non-BB data plan".
JayRolla said:
Unlimited data plans are also for 3g ONLY! Not sure if that was mentioned. If you lucky enough to live in an area where H+ is live you have to go to the 2gb or 4gb data plan to get those speeds, which right now are barely faster than 3g download and the upload is horrible.
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Well that's just not true at all.

JayRolla said:
Unlimited data plans are also for 3g ONLY! Not sure if that was mentioned. If you lucky enough to live in an area where H+ is live you have to go to the 2gb or 4gb data plan to get those speeds, which right now are barely faster than 3g download and the upload is horrible.
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You're in incorrect in that. Its unlimited regardless of network connection speed...
Try again...
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I went to. Costco and the Guy there kept me on my unlimited plan. I even called att to make sure and the Rep put me on hold so she could talk to the manager and they said I'm allowed to grandfather my plan.
If you guys are having trouble, ask the Rep to talk to the manager.

co.ag.2005 said:
proof?
I've been using my old iPhone unlimited data plan since last year when I picked up the Nexus One. I am still using my unlimited data plan with my Motorola Atrix. My speeds aren't throttled (except HSUPA which is NOT due to me being on an unlimited plan) and I have gone above 2GB several times since switching to Android and have not been charged for it, penalized, or had my speeds throttled.
OP: AT&T will let you keep your unlimited iPhone data plan for your Atrix. I have it, many others on this forum have it.
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What he said! I switched from unlimited with iPhone 4 and have unlimited 4G data now on Atrix. They tried to tell me I had to pick one of their teired data plans and I said thanks but no thanks give me my grandfathered unlimited and they did.

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When I went to the AT&T store last week to get my Atrix, I specifically asked them if we would have to get a new plan for 4G, or could we keep our grandfathered unlimited plan from my iPhone. She told me there was no extra charge, and gave me a 4G sim card to boot! I am not in a 4G area, so I won't know if I will get charged or not, but the store rep told me that even if I used 4G, I wouldn't have to pay any other extra fees.
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I have no idea what that "4G" sim is going to do for you considering it won't be needed until AT&T rolls out LTE. The so-called "4G" that the Atrix uses (HSDPA+) is still a 3G technology and 3G sim cards work on it.

I just checked my bill and it says that my current data and messaging plan is set to expire on 04/07/2011. I can get a Smartphone Unlimited data and 1500 messaging for the same price. Haven't made any change yet. Will call AT&T Monday and see what happens.

How bad is the 4g data throttle on t-mobile

Will I at least be able to get regular 3g speeds or do they throttle you even more?

Bad. Very, very, very, very bad.
I work for a retailer and I sell a hell of a lot of T-Mobile. You will be down to edge and from then on, it's pretty unusable. Their HSPA+ is brilliant in my area. It rivals the speeds of VZW's LTE here... But running on 2G is horrible. If you're on a classic plan and can afford to shell out another $10 a month, I'd just go for the truly unlimited data without any throttling. I mean, that's if you don't feel that 2 GIGs of HSPA+ is enough.

I'll be going with their $30/mo plan with 5gb of 4g data. You have to really try to go over 5gb of data lol

spitefulcheerio said:
I'll be going with their $30/mo plan with 5gb of 4g data. You have to really try to go over 5gb of data lol
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If you're spending $30/month it's unlimited now. There is no throttling on that plan. Th only 5GB plan they offer is $35 and that gives you the mobile hotspot feature. So, you should be good either way! I love the anti-throttle that they have going on. Definitely worth the extra $10 over the 2GB plan if you ask me.

morejaylesswar said:
If you're spending $30/month it's unlimited now. There is no throttling on that plan. Th only 5GB plan they offer is $35 and that gives you the mobile hotspot feature. So, you should be good either way! I love the anti-throttle that they have going on. Definitely worth the extra $10 over the 2GB plan if you ask me.
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Hate to burst your bubble but if you read the fine print on the $30 Monthly 4G it says first 5GB up to 4G speeds.
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans

found out that they throttle you to 2g speeds.

kzoodroid said:
Hate to burst your bubble but if you read the fine print the on the $30 Monthly 4G it says unlimited data up to 5GB max.
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Really? I'm going to check that when I get in to work today. I've read the fine prints on our new "TRULY UNLIMITED" brochures and the new contracts and I don't recall reading anything about that. I wouldn't put it past big magenta, though. Seriously.
I do know that the old contracts read something about "To provide a good experience to the majority of our customers (blah blah blah) up to 5GB." At our meeting a few months back about this, we were all told to make sure we're switching customers off of their grandfathered unlimited data plans that had the 5GB cap and move them to the newer ones.
Then again, I'm at a retailer that does VZW and AT&T as well, so I could be misinformed when it comes to that. I'm definitely going to have to look into it more.

kzoodroid said:
Hate to burst your bubble but if you read the fine print on the $30 Monthly 4G it says first 5GB up to 4G speeds.
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans
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Monthly4G plans are prepaid. Truly Unlimited Nationwide 4G is only offered on postpaid accounts. Assuming the OP is talking about a postpaid Truly Unlimited Nationwide 4G account, then there is no (advertised) throttle. As described here:
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Packages/ValuePackages.aspx
"There are no limits, no overages, no worries—you never have to keep track of how much data you use."
Monthly4G accounts will throttle to EDGE speeds after you use up your allotment of 4G (ex. "*First 5 GB at up to 4G speeds").

I wonder how T-Mobile's plans will shake up next year when they get rid of contract plans altogether and introduce LTE.

I went over my throttle limit once, when I move houses and didn't have broadband for a month. Throttle is slow.. Slower than edge. About the same speed as dialup.
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