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http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/htc-hero-update-to-android-2-1-on-april-26th-in-home-country-of/
Just from experience, markets across seas always get it first. Does that mean that it will be after April 26th before the Sprint Hero gets the 2.1 update?
i not surprised if this is true with sprint getting the nexus and the powerhouse is being left in the wind
If this is overseas, this could be 2 or 3 months till the sprint htc hero updates.
I told you to root and flash DamageCotrol v1...
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If this is overseas, this could be 2 or 3 months till the sprint htc hero updates.
I told you to root and flash DamageCotrol v1...
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Why so pessimistic?? I'm not sure if you guys are right or wrong, but the article DOES say we'd be getting it soon after, why so scared?
Besides...once Taiwan leaks the Hero ROM, won't that be the same as when they release it for our phones? Am I wrong or isn't the overseas Hero the same but with GSM? Shouldn't we be able to perfect the 2.1 ROMs with that? I mean that would be pretty damn close with having the Eris leak as well, I don't know but I just don't see why to be scared and why to not get excited to see the actual overseas leak.
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Why so pessimistic?? I'm not sure if you guys are right or wrong, but the article DOES say we'd be getting it soon after, why so scared?
Besides...once Taiwan leaks the Hero ROM, won't that be the same as when they release it for our phones? Am I wrong or isn't the overseas Hero the same but with GSM? Shouldn't we be able to perfect the 2.1 ROMs with that? I mean that would be pretty damn close with having the Eris leak as well, I don't know but I just don't see why to be scared and why to not get excited to see the actual overseas leak.
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Because TODAY was our original speculation date. So after seeing this, it appears we have a month or more to wait. The biggest thing is that we havent been given a confirmed date and its getting tense.
Anyway, I just posted this for others to see something new.
Because TODAY was our original speculation date.
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Well....
Keyword-Speculation..
Stop speculating and you won't be upset...
It's not like 2.1 is going to bring an all new world, once it comes out we're just going to be inundated with well.. what now threads an hour after everyone updates..
Patience is a virtue...
didn't some self proclaimed "sprint employee" leak that date? (i've been looking, maybe they edited their original post)
But I'm going to take everything I read in the future from such sources with an extra grain of salt on top of the first. In other words... POIDH
A couple sites are saying April 9th (now), because Sprint is apparently issuing some network updates then,
http://phandroid.com/2010/03/25/rumor-sprint-htc-hero-getting-android-2-1-on-april-9th/
We'll see when it gets here
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Because TODAY was our original speculation date. So after seeing this, it appears we have a month or more to wait. The biggest thing is that we havent been given a confirmed date and its getting tense.
Anyway, I just posted this for others to see something new.
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Start running the ROMs and I think you'll chill a lot more. Plus if ANY Hero gets updated, I bet the ROMs will be perfected a little more which is still something to look forward to.
I honestly have been on DC 1.0, and yeah not everything works, but then what will work with 2.1? Will we have LWP? The builds we have may even have more than the 2.1 Sprint will give us. I mean keeping LWP off our phones but on the Nexus still keeps a reason to make us upgrade. Which means we need to hack it
Listen guys, I didnt put any exclamation marks in any of my posts. I was just simply bringing up what I found for some discussion on peoples thoughts. I am currently running Fresh Toast 2.0c and completely happy with it. This isnt to start a battle about how pissed I am, just hadnt seen anyone post this little tid bit.
Sprint 1st said first half of the year, then updated to beginning of 2nd quarter, so between April 1st to May 14th. Want some advice? Stop putting so much stock on the rumors and wait for an official date. Sprint is notorious for terrible communication and missing dates so don't expect 2.1 sooner rather than later.
Yes this pisses me off too but it doesn't do any good getting worked up over rumors proving to be false. Personally, the spreading of rumors are more upsetting than the holdout for Sprint.
Jeez you guys cant read. I never said I was pissed off, I just wanted to discuss the date since there was a confirmed one in Taiwan. Im emailing a mod now to close this. FACK!!
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Samsung Spain on their Facebook page has said that Froyo update will be through Kies at the end of October
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=161124793901551&id=108610811866
I think it's only for Spain. Other countries will getting end of September. That what I heard.
probably needs time to translate the ROM from English to Spanglish
Well, if what they currently have is remotely similar to the leaked JPH firmware, I bet that end of October sounds more reasonable as a release date. I don't think they are ready yet.
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Well, if what they currently have is remotely similar to the leaked JPH firmware, I bet that end of October sounds more reasonable as a release date. I don't think they are ready yet.
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If JPH is what they have at the begining of September, they still have much work to do. I'm not accepting a Froyo ROM that has bugs that were not present on Android 2.1 ROMs, it would be absurd.
for India too it has been postponed to October WTF!
This better be a great firmware that is fast enough... I mean delY after delay..i think the perception now is ... It better be good.
Having said that jph to me has been the greatest firmware so far... No problems..
Hey let them take the time if they can produce a better firmware.
A few people still report issues with it so why not.
I'm in no hurry. People are so impatient these days.
+1.
Better get a decent firmware 1 month later than get crap now and have them not evolve it anymore.
Of course, both worlds would be better. A free lunch either!
Paulo
hell yes, take all the time you need samsung (reasonably), dont give us crap.
Yeah, Samsung is staying true to tradition in either delaying all updates or not releasing at all. Very disappoint after they release such an awesome product.
In the earlier post i read that oct is date for india too. This is real bad news for indian sgs owners because i for one was waiting for sept last week release. I hope this piece of news is not true.
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In the earlier post i read that oct is date for india too. This is real bad news for indian sgs owners because i for one was waiting for sept last week release. I hope this piece of news is not true.
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This news is true. I am just pissed off. Samsung is such a big company and it cant even iron out few obvious bugs. the great thing is that samsung has not even confirmed that they will fix the lag. They have not even accepted that their RFS is ****. If HTC and Motorola can release the good froyo builds in less time, then why not smasung? I dont think their touchwiz UI will take more time than HTC sense UI. Samsung just cares for money. They got the money, now they will concentrate on other new models.This is my last phone from samsung.
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This news is true. I am just pissed off. Samsung is such a big company and it cant even iron out few obvious bugs. the great thing is that samsung has not even confirmed that they will fix the lag. They have not even accepted that their RFS is ****. If HTC and Motorola can release the good froyo builds in less time, then why not smasung? I dont think their touchwiz UI will take more time than HTC sense UI. Samsung just cares for money. They got the money, now they will concentrate on other new models.This is my last phone from samsung.
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Also my last samsung phone
HTC is also not God's gift to the cellphone world ... Not all HTC phones have froyo yet ( Legend and Wildfire for example) Here in the netherlands the Legend was released before the desire but still no update to froyo not even a date for the eventual update .. there was an ota update for the legend about 2 motns ago with lots of bugs .. No word from htc about that and even worse not even an update that fixes the problems .. The 2.2 update for the Desire also wasn't without problems .. What I am saying is : the grass is allways greener on the other side ..but when you take a closer look you will see the truth
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Fuccccckkkk samsung waited all this time for nothing!
nickporwal said:
This news is true. I am just pissed off. Samsung is such a big company and it cant even iron out few obvious bugs. the great thing is that samsung has not even confirmed that they will fix the lag. They have not even accepted that their RFS is ****. If HTC and Motorola can release the good froyo builds in less time, then why not smasung? I dont think their touchwiz UI will take more time than HTC sense UI. Samsung just cares for money. They got the money, now they will concentrate on other new models.This is my last phone from samsung.
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what the hell you guys upset about? it's a good phone yes, it does what it needs to do yes, so you see there is no problem and it's only a figment of your imagination.
besides that I believe that Samsung outsources their coding jobs to third parties what would explain constant delays because outsourcing stuff always gives delays as you have little grip on the company you outsource it to.
so in the end it all makes sense and stop blaming Samsung for trying ;O
I'm looking forward to a stable update that might even bring some benefits.
But come on, grow some patience. If they did have a launch plan for late September and during testing decided it wasn't ready yet, well, so be it. Meanwhile the phone do what its supposed to do better then my old phone and with a gadget factor of 1000 more on top of that. CIV V will be out, the autumn TV-series are appearing and between that and working end of october will be here in no time...
at least HTC flagship device like Desire is not as problematic as ours. Do u see any premier device from any of the top companies has lagging problem like the Galaxy S? (and x10 )
if not because of this problem, i dont give a damn on froyo. i dont need flash, because I've used to iPhone for the whole 2009. Wireless tethering is already available in SGS' 2.1 rom.. i just need a smooth device for my daily use! and i spent MYR2600 to get this phone which equivalents to average fresh graduates salary in my country.
personally I'm not too bothered at the moment as with jm7 (can't be bothered to go to jm8 unless there is a very good reason to put the hours in again) and the voodoo fix along with autokiller set to strict my phone is very nice to use now and does everything I need it to anyway.
It is a little disappointing to have to wait even longer, but I'm absolutely not surprised as I said all along I think it'll be near xmas before we get a good solid froyo firmware with not too many bugs in; besides, I've got a feeling that this will be a big anti climax anyway... I certainly won't be expecting the huge link scores of the nexus one, but my device proves already it has the potential to run as fast anyway already.
Tbh I'd settle for the niggles being ironed out and am not too concerned yet for the os version; for the time being I'm more concerned on the end result.
I too though won't be buying another samsung device of any kind, not because of the froyo debacle, but because every samsung product I've bought has been sub par.
US Cellular is launching galaxy S on 10/27 with 2.1. It says Froyo upgrade for this device will happen later this year.
If Samsung upgrades all Galaxy S phones to 2.2 together, we won't see Froyo till 10/27.
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/10/06/u-s-cellular-to-offer-samsung-mesmerize-a-galaxy-s-phone/
I think, they will update them in the order they've been released.
For Epic it's mean somewhere in the middle.
still worth waiting.
Simple put, even if 2.2 exists..they are not gonna delay release to upgrade to 2.2..and they most likely won't upgrade the next day...Samsung may make 2.2 available at same time but its up to carriers when to release it with their "customizations"
Froyo will most likely be released this month where most will update at same time but does not mean all...the yae not gonna hold up a world wide release because of a few carriers.
That said since Transform has 2.2 shows that CDMA is not an issue any more so only thing that could cause delay is either 4g or TW3...
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Simple put, even if 2.2 exists..they are not gonna delay release to upgrade to 2.2..and they most likely won't upgrade the next day...Samsung may make 2.2 available at same time but its up to carriers when to release it with their "customizations"
Froyo will most likely be released this month where most will update at same time but does not mean all...the yae not gonna hold up a world wide release because of a few carriers.
That said since Transform has 2.2 shows that CDMA is not an issue any more so only thing that could cause delay is either 4g or TW3...
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The Transform has 2.2? Its only been rumored that the Transform has 2.2, unless you can site me a reference?
Quote from the BGR post about Sprint announcing the Zio, Transform, and the Optimus S
The Samsung Transform will have a 3.5-inch capacitive touchscreen display (not Super AMOLED), 800 MHz processor, 0.3 megapixel front-facing camera, 3.2 megapixel rear-facing camera with LED-flash, EV-DO Rev. A and Android 2.1. We’re told the device will be upgraded to Android 2.2 shortly after launch. The phone is set to launch on 10/10/10 for $149.99 after a $100 mail-in rebate. We saw the user guide for this device leak yesterday, so no real shock here.
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Transform has 2.1 when launched on 10/10. But as SGS, it will be upgradable to Froyo later this year.
CDMA has never been an issue for Froyo. I had Froyo running on Touch for 2-3 months.
What's with samsung and the slowness to get out the latest builds. The moment sat at 1.5 for ages until we finally got 2.1 when 2.2 just start rolling out.
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In the first place, the OP makes the common mistake of trying to extrapolate from news about development on some other Galaxy S variant and apply that by weak inductive reasoning to the Sprint Epic 4G.
In the second place, I would be flabbergasted if Froyo is released for the Epic by 10/27, which is only 11 days from now. I have never seen any credible evidence that the Froyo rollout for the Epic platform is scheduled anywhere close to that early. So breathlessly posting "No Froyo upgrade til 10/27!!!" is just laughable all around.
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In the first place, the OP makes the common mistake of trying to extrapolate from news about development on some other Galaxy S variant and apply that by weak inductive reasoning to the Sprint Epic 4G.
In the second place, I would be flabbergasted if Froyo is released for the Epic by 10/27, which is only 11 days from now. I have never seen any credible evidence that the Froyo rollout for the Epic platform is scheduled anywhere close to that early. So breathlessly posting "No Froyo upgrade til 10/27!!!" is just laughable all around.
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Thanks. I admit my reasoning is weak.
But 27th is 21 days away.
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In the first place, the OP makes the common mistake of trying to extrapolate from news about development on some other Galaxy S variant and apply that by weak inductive reasoning to the Sprint Epic 4G.
In the second place, I would be flabbergasted if Froyo is released for the Epic by 10/27, which is only 11 days from now. I have never seen any credible evidence that the Froyo rollout for the Epic platform is scheduled anywhere close to that early. So breathlessly posting "No Froyo upgrade til 10/27!!!" is just laughable all around.
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Holy crap did I over sleep. I didn't know it was the 16th! Just playin'. We'll see it when we see it.
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Holy crap did I over sleep. I didn't know it was the 16th! Just playin'. We'll see it when we see it.
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Sorry for the typo. Obviously the 27th is 21 days away, not 11.
In any case, like you say, we'll see it when we see it. If that is only three weeks from now, I'll be very pleasantly surprised.
3.0 is suppose to be out next month, might as well just give us that
I feel like I've been waiting for this froyo update forever. I really hope this comes at the end of October.
After that I just need:
- An official lagfix from Samsung, not complaining I think Epic is still super zippy but nice to have
- TouchWiz 3.0, well, hoping the rumors are true that we get this with the froyo update on Epic
- Bring Samsung KIES to US
Then countdown to Gingerbread!
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I feel like I've been waiting for this froyo update forever. I really hope this comes at the end of October.
After that I just need:
- An official lagfix from Samsung, not complaining I think Epic is still super zippy but nice to have
- TouchWiz 3.0, well, hoping the rumors are true that we get this with the froyo update on Epic
- Bring Samsung KIES to US
Then countdown to Gingerbread!
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Add to that a real GPS fix.
Samsung rep said gsm galaxy s phones will get froyo mid october. The cdma will take a bit longer so could be end of oct or maybe even take as long as end of november.
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The Transform doesn't look too impressive in person. Much smaller screen, slightly smaller device, definitely thinner though. The Transform will have 2.2 before year's end, the Epic will have it within a month. Sprint has been beta testing the 2.2 release and found some issues, making sure it releases bug free is their priority right now.
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The Transform doesn't look too impressive in person. Much smaller screen, slightly smaller device, definitely thinner though. The Transform will have 2.2 before year's end, the Epic will have it within a month. Sprint has been beta testing the 2.2 release and found some issues, making sure it releases bug free is their priority right now.
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1. I'm disappointed with Transform.
2. It's smaller but thicker due to TFT screen.
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1. I'm disappointed with Transform.
2. It's smaller but thicker due to TFT screen.
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I just got the email from Sprint saying the Zio and the Transform are available today for Sprint Premier customers, and on 10/10 for regular/new customers.
Transform is not galaxy s so thats why its all mediocre n stuff running stock 2.2.
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Transform blows balls. It's the Moment 2. It's taking the place of the Intercept, which is a 3-month old phone. Don't buy this one guys, it's a piece of ****.
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Transform blows balls. It's the Moment 2. It's taking the place of the Intercept, which is a 3-month old phone. Don't buy this one guys, it's a piece of ****.
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It might be a intro to Android for my wife, I may get the Zio for her..Ive always had good luck with Sanyo phones, but the Optimus S is looking pretty decent as well..
Samsung_mobiles twittered some News to the relasedate of froyo for the sgs. If this i posteted elsewhre please delete.
"Samsung_Mobiles
All our users who are waiting for froyo , please note that froyo is expected to launch by end of this month. No exact dates are confirmed."
http://twitter.com/Samsung_Mobiles/status/26579290440
The tweet is quite clear yes. However Samsung_Mobiles is not a verified twitter account so there's no telling if they are indeed Samsung India or just some random account so be careful with accepting those claims as absolute truth.
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Sorry didnt know and havent looked that Samsung_mobiles is not verified. But youre right, and before there will be great discussions.. Please close this thread, dear mods.
well i do not believe on any news now..samsung has been known for its customer annoyance syndrome regarding updates for long. better try cutom roms.. coz they r big time liars.. dt b surprised if they say "end of november" at end of october...like before
Oh stop whining, it took HTC 9 (!) months to give their early Hero customers an upgrade from 1.5 to 2.1. The Galaxy S got released with 2.1 and it's not even been on the market for half a year and they're obviously very busy working on an update.
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Oh stop whining, it took HTC 9 (!) months to give their early Hero customers an upgrade from 1.5 to 2.1. The Galaxy S got released with 2.1 and it's not even been on the market for half a year and they're obviously very busy working on an update.
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Ah, because HTC was slow to update Hero we must shut up our mouths?
Samsung's promise is worth nothing. Froyo is when we see it.
I would like to nag but why should I? Rather let them take some time to polish it up a bit since this will be the last official update available for our phone (damn)
So please just take it as a man, say; "oh i can wait a couple of weeks more" cos by the end of October you'll receive a new phone, eventhough we're tricked with merely new software
meanwhile, kinda happy with the unofficial froyo =/
No companies promises are worth anything generally..
Originally Samsung said that Froyo update will be available THIS YEAR.
Not end of september/october/november.
I do have official Froyo update (it's a jp3 version but I still got it at the official service) and still waiting for the final release via Kies.
So as far as I'm concerned, Samsung kept their promise. No complaints from me.
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Ah, because HTC was slow to update Hero we must shut up our mouths?
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No, I'm just giving you some perspective.
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Originally Samsung said that Froyo update will be available THIS YEAR.
Not end of september/october/november.
I do have official Froyo update (it's a jp3 version but I still got it at the official service) and still waiting for the final release via Kies.
So as far as I'm concerned, Samsung kept their promise. No complaints from me.
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And originally Samsung promised GPS fix for September, where is the fix?
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And originally Samsung promised GPS fix for September, where is the fix?
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Link to official statement?
There's so many roms out there from multiple developers that I think froyo can wait and bring out a polished 2.2
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Link to official statement?
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/samsung-commits-to-september-updates-for-galaxy-s-gps-woes/
And for Froyo
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/30/samsung-confirms-galaxy-s-will-get-froyo-in-september/
And in Smsung Spain Facebook page they promised an update for September.
There's nothing official about statements on Twitter or Facebook as long as there's no press release to accompany them.
There's a crapload of work that goes into managing a ROM release cycle and decently testing every update, something they might be inclined to do better this time after all the trouble they got from the original release.
Besides, it says 'Expected', not "Will be released on $date and you can quote us on it".
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WB
The big ol' unsourced, unconfirmed, who-knows-if-it's-true rumor of the past week or so has been that Android 2.3 -- Gingerbread -- will be announced/released/something today. It's just about lunchtime, and no sign of anything sweet yet -- though as you can see from the Google analytics above, it looks like it's still pinging around out there.
Will we see it today? Dunno. Will we see it tomorrow? Dunno. Are our fingers crossed? Absofrigginlutely.
http://www.androidcentral.com/gingerbread-coming-today-its-still-pinging
YES PLEASE !
I'm excited to see how it is, no fingers crossed since I'll be waiting for Sprint to push it .
Cyanogenmod will push it before sprint. Our evos are sense devices, so it will take htc some time to get sense on it and sprint.... luckily we have cyanogen
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Cyanogenmod will push it before sprint. Our evos are sense devices, so it will take htc some time to get sense on it and sprint.... luckily we have cyanogen
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This. Although I'm going to be conflicted between running Cyanogenmod with Android 2.3 but no 4G and the fact that a technician is coming to my work tomorrow to install a Sprint 4G repeater
Damn.... hopefully cyanogen will have 4g done by the time he compiles 2.3
Well I guess the new OTA update released today has something to do with it...
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Well I guess the new OTA update released today has something to do with it...
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new ota???
Remember the great modders here beat HTC to releasing 2.2 with sense here! I really wouldn't doubt they won't do it with 2.3 also.
I don't think it is coming out today. Wouldn't the employees release it during their normal shift hours 7-3 or whatever. That is just my thought lol I think they will release it tomorrow when apple releases their upgrades ios 4.2
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Remember the great modders here beat HTC to releasing 2.2 with sense here! I really wouldn't doubt they won't do it with 2.3 also.
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you wont see a 2.3 with "sense" for a while. HTC is too busy pushing the new "sense" out. U may get a 2.3 "sense" leak by Feb. or March.
Man i wish it came out yesterday :|. Well let's hope its well worth the wait.
oh well for that!! lol.
wouldve been nice if they at least gave us a teaser screenshot or a bit of information to hold us over.. dang..
I don't know why people always get so down on HTC so far they have been great with pushing updates. If an update is coming I don't think it will take 3 to 4 months. Some thought Froyo was going to take a long time too and we got it on a few weeks. If your going to speculate how about speculating that the cup is half full.
From watching all of the handset manufacturers out there HTC is by far and away the fastest to provide updates to their phones.
Samsung still doesn't have 2.2 and Motorola isn't that fast either.
Is there anywhere there is a guarantee that the EVO will be getting the next update?
My guess is yes mainly because it is still Sprint's best Android phone.
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My guess is yes mainly because it is still Sprint's best Android phone.
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It's THE BEST phone.
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