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I installed unrevoked 3 to root my phone and then downloaded Rom Manager. Rom Manager wants to install ClockworkMod Recovery, but it already got installed with unrevoked. Should I let it reinstall it? Is there any reason for me to use Rom Manager on my phone if I have unrevoked 3 rooting?
Unrevoked 3 gives you clockworkmod so you can flash a new ROM. After flashing a Rom, clockwork goes away. ROM Manager gives you access to clockwork at all times. Also, you can download and flash CM6 from it. I shouldn't even have to mention the fact that it keeps track of all your nandoid back-ups. So really, how many times will you be changing ROMs, and how many back-ups will you have? If you flash ROMs alot, keep ROM Manager. Otherwise, you might not need it.
Hope it helps ~ Pete
PiratePetey said:
Unrevoked 3 gives you clockworkmod so you can flash a new ROM. After flashing a Rom, clockwork goes away. ROM Manager gives you access to clockwork at all times. Also, you can download and flash CM6 from it. I shouldn't even have to mention the fact that it keeps track of all your nandoid back-ups. So really, how many times will you be changing ROMs, and how many back-ups will you have? If you flash ROMs alot, keep ROM Manager. Otherwise, you might not need it.
Hope it helps ~ Pete
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Clockwork does not "go away" after flashing with Unrevoked once you've flashed a ROM. It replaces stock recovery.
Yea, I actually agree because I just used Clockworkmod to flash CM6 without using RomManager at all. I even made my backup with Clockworkmod - not RomManager. I fail to see why I need RomManager at all and again I'm looking for advice as to what it does that I can't do with clockworkmod directly (backup, flash rom, unmount, etc.)
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echodun said:
I installed unrevoked 3 to root my phone and then downloaded Rom Manager. Rom Manager wants to install ClockworkMod Recovery, but it already got installed with unrevoked. Should I let it reinstall it? Is there any reason for me to use Rom Manager on my phone if I have unrevoked 3 rooting?
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This reflects my opinion only:
I installed ROM manager, and yes it does have some pretty cool features that can be run from a single screen. Like you, I noticed that it immediately wanted to install clockwork Mod, the exact same version I was already running. I noticed after installing it that it also self installed multiple files and folders. My concern is purely from a security perspective. The icon for the app itself speaks volumes to me! After uninstalling it, I noticed that several files and a folder with an app called download.apk remained on the phone. Along with several other files and folders in the clockwork folder.
Personally, I would be very reluctant to make any credit card purchases or do any smartphone banking after installing this app. I re-rooted and re-flashed my ROM, including re-formatting the SD partition and extended partition, all cache, and wiped the phone to make sure I eliminated every element of ROM manager.
I have found that I can do almost everything through ClockworkMod, but I have to manually download anything I want to flash first.
Again, this reflects my opinion and preferences.
echodun said:
Yea, I actually agree because I just used Clockworkmod to flash CM6 without using RomManager at all. I even made my backup with Clockworkmod - not RomManager. I fail to see why I need RomManager at all and again I'm looking for advice as to what it does that I can't do with clockworkmod directly (backup, flash rom, unmount, etc.)
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Theres nothing you can do with rom manager that you can't do manually with clockwork or terminal emulator. Clockwork just makes doing those things more convenient. I always flash roms and do nandroids via clockwork and I don't use the other features enough to make rom manager useful for me.
I only use ROM Manager for the fix permissions option.
i also think you can rename your backups with ROM Manager, but i still dont use it.
How would we do this otherwise? If i remember correctly, its not as simple as renaming the folder
It doesn't even give me the option to uninstall from the GUI. Did you have to remove it via command line or is there a better way?
Typing fix_permissions into terminal emulator will rum fix permissions.
dexmix said:
i also think you can rename your backups with ROM Manager, but i still dont use it.
How would we do this otherwise? If i remember correctly, its not as simple as renaming the folder
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You can mount your sd card as storage and rename then with your computer. You can also do it via astro or some other file manager on your phone.
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It doesn't even give me the option to uninstall from the GUI. Did you have to remove it via command line or is there a better way?
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What I do is delete the apps I don't want before I install the rom. Just unzip it, go into the apps folder and delete the apps you don't want and then rezip it all. You can do this on your computer our with astro. Otherwise you have to use cmd prompts.
What I do is delete the apps I don't want before I install the rom. Just unzip it, go into the apps folder and delete the apps you don't want and then rezip it all. You can do this on your computer our with astro. Otherwise you have to use cmd prompts.
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Righto, thanks.
CallMeAria said:
What I do is delete the apps I don't want before I install the rom. Just unzip it, go into the apps folder and delete the apps you don't want and then rezip it all. You can do this on your computer our with astro. Otherwise you have to use cmd prompts.
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Nice! If I'd have known it was that easy, I would have been doing that all along. So will this work both ways, could I just as easily add an APK that I wanted?
armyengineer51 said:
Nice! If I'd have known it was that easy, I would have been doing that all along. So will this work both ways, could I just as easily add an APK that I wanted?
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Yep you just paste the .apk's into the /system/app folder before you re-zip the rom. I have a couple apps that I add before I install a rom.
CallMeAria said:
Yep you just paste the .apk's into the /system/app folder before you re-zip the rom. I have a couple apps that I add before I install a rom.
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Fan-freakin-tastic, thanks for that little tidbit!
edit: regarding below, I did another flash and this time it did create a backup in clockworkmod/backups.
maybe I did something wrong ... nah, that would never happen.
I just flashed a rom with rom manager and selected BACKUP CURRENT ROM while doing so.
Where the heck is the backed up ROM? I can't find it anywhere on sd card.
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I should have said that I know to look in clockworkmod/backups, I have ton of bups in there that I did with BACKUP CURRENT ROM (just backing up, not flashing).
I am referring to when you are flashing rom and the popup with 2 choices comes up (wipe,backup). I checked backup and it seemed to do it, but there is no file in clockword any newer than the last bup I did with the BACKUP CURRENT ROM function.
on your sd card look for the clockwork mod folder, in there are two folders, "backup" and "download". it's in backup
I should have said that I knew to look there, I have ton of bups in there that I did with BACKUP CURRENT ROM.
I am referring to when you are flashing rom and the popup with 2 choices comes up (wipe,backup). I checked backup and it seemed to do it, but there is no file in clockword any newer than the last bup I did with the BACKUP CURRENT ROM function.
Hello,
I decided to write this because I had a hell of a time finding out how to do this - all the information is here on the forums but not all in one place so you can just read and install the custom ROM.
The ROM that is available that I have successfully tested is CM7_RC1_X8_004
You will need the following programs:
SuperOneClick - to root your phone
Busybox - from the android Market
Xrecovery
Super Manager - from the Market
X10 Flashtool
and your ROM
Rooting
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So First we want to root the phone, we will need to set the USB debugging mode to on. Go into settings - applications - Development and click on the tick next to USB debugging to turn it on. Plug the Phone into the PC via the USB Cable.
At the end of this post are files download SuperOneclick and extract it into a folder on your desktop then run the exe file called SuperOneClick.exe and click on root, it will scroll through a load of things then come up with a message that says "Root files have been installed would you like to run a test?" To which I always say Yes then it says "A su command will now be sent to your phone please hit allow in superuser" (there were no messages on my phone so I just hit OK on that message) Then a message comes up asking you to donate, so if that utility is handy for you feel free to donate to the makers of SuperOneclick!
You can now turn off USB debugging.
Installing BusyBox
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Go to settings - sound and display and set the screen timeout to 30 mins I have found it to keep locking while installing Busybox as it takes a while to do.
Go to the market and search for Busybox and install and accept permissions on it. once this part of the application has installed you need to run it as it has only been copied to the phone - now you have to actually install it.
So run the busybox app and say OK to the message from the developer (reading it first of course) then it will ask you for permission which you say yes.
Next we see a screen saying Status: Working, Your phone is Rooted, amount of free space in system is 10128kb, Busybox not found. (we haven't installed it yet.)
The first time I did this it took ages to get anywhere and ages to install so just be patient and wait for it. Choose Busybox 1.17.1 but change the location of the install to system/xbin (the drop down box at the bottom of the page.) Then Click Install. For me this time it failed so lets try v 1.18 and the default location. back up and then relaunch busybox installer.
I found I had to change the settings a couple times when I installed before to get it to install, you might not find that. Sure enough this time it installed fine using v1.18 and the default save location.
installing Super Manager and Xrecovery
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First you need to download the new ROM files from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=973753
Go to the third post and download the rom: (currently
http://hotfile.com/dl/109568508/3381b40/CM7_RC1_X8_004.rar.html)
Once it's down extract the files to another folder in your desktop and you should have the files LiveWallpapers.zip, Update.zip, changelog.txt and a BASEBAND folder.
Then connect your phone and copy the three files and the folder to a new directory on your SDcard. (I called mine ROM) Now remove the cable from the PC not forgetting to unmount it first.
Then you need to download Super Manager from the market and install it then run it - choose File explorer - click on the favourite icon at the bottom(the picture of a folder and a heart) and choose SD card, navigate to your folder where you stored the files and click on all the ticks next to the files and folder and then when they are all selected click on any file and hold it till a menu appears and choose copy (This is to copy the files)
Then Click on the favourites one again and choose root path. Then go to System and then Bin and then click on one file and hold the button till the menu appears and scroll to the bottom where you see paste and click on it and this will paste the files into this folder.
X10 Flash tool
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Next we need to use the X10 Flastool so download it from
http://www.multiupload.com/GYL7A7XQBT
(The thread I got this from is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=920746).
Once downloaded you need to extract the files and run X10FlashTool.exe.
Then before you plug the phone back in you need to put it into USB debugging mode again. Go into settings - applications - Development and click on the tick next to USB debugging to turn it on. Plug the phone back into the PC.
In the X10Flashtool click on the button that says ask root perms and press allow on the phone when it comes up and in the FlashTool it will say "INFO - Root Access Allowed."
Then Click Optimize and it will then reboot your phone, let the phone come back up and then in x10 Flasher click ask root perms and it should say Allowed again after a short time.
Then click on xRecovery. Power the phone off and wait for 20 seconds and then power it back on. As soon as you see the words "Sony Ericsson" appear on the screen start hammering the back button. Then the phone will boot into xRecovery.
Backup your phone
Use the sound volume up and down buttons to move up and down the menus and the home button to select the option (I think the back button is back as well). Choose the backup/restore option, then backup to backup your phone to the SD card (First the system and then the data)
Then when it's finished it will say complete and you can go ahead and put the new rom on the phone. Choose install Custom Zip, then choose custom zip from SDcard. Navigate to the directory you put your ROM in and choose update.zip it will ask you if you are sure so choose yes and it will update your phone.
Once it says Install from SDcard complete hit backup then choose the top option reboot phone.
Your Phone will then reboot into Android 2.3
Good job on this
Restoring your Phone to It's previous working state
To restore you phone back to how it was before you started all this all you need to do is Boot xRecovery by hammering the back button once you see the very first Sony Ericsson which takes you into xRecovery.
Then use the volume up and down on the side of the phone and choose backup and restore and you can choose advanced restore to restore a different component or just do a restore to do the whole phone back as it was.
I have just restored back successfully!
is there a big risk that i will damage my phone in case i will do everything in #1post step by step with instruction?
I don't really think so, but there is always the possibility when flashing your phone that you might Brick it.
I didn't break mine and I will do this to test every new firmware that comes out and because I've done it once most of the hard work is done which was installing xRecovery.
In short I offer you no guarantee this won't brick your phone what you do is at your own risk, but I had no trouble.
Yeah i know this that im doing it on my own risk, im only asking of probability of breaking phone cus i want root and install custom rom but i have a little bad luck
OK,
I don't know about failures - I haven't seen anyone complaining about destroying their phone and it didn't happen to me, that's all I know sorry.
super manager isn't copying and pasting files. i follow the guide and when i click paste, nothing happens.
edit: it just says "prepare to copy" when i try to copy the files, then nothing when i paste
stef.t97 said:
super manager isn't copying and pasting files. i follow the guide and when i click paste, nothing happens.
edit: it just says "prepare to copy" when i try to copy the files, then nothing when i paste
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In supermanager open the folder system and then select the folder Bin, you have to change the folder from read to read and write first before u can copy anything.
thanks, realized i hadn't given super manager super user permission. what do i do differently when installing Rachts Roms because they don't come with an update.zip?
stef.t97 said:
thanks, realized i hadn't given super manager super user permission. what do i do differently when installing Rachts Roms because they don't come with an update.zip?
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When u have Xrecovery and make an backup it will create a folder in SD card "backup" after u download the Rom from racth u put the folder on the backup folder, then in XRecovery u go to backup then restore, u will see the rom there, just press ok and it will do the rest like the zip file.
to the OP thanks a Lot i appreciate this Guide!
and on the same vein as the others i am having some problems pasting the contents of the ROM. i have given Super manager root prves. but it says not enough free desc space which seems right to me cus there is only 128Mb storage on the phone.
i feel like i am missing sumthing basic please assist me, Thanks!
skowrone said:
Yeah i know this that im doing it on my own risk, im only asking of probability of breaking phone cus i want root and install custom rom but i have a little bad luck
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Just need to be well prepared!!!!
Based on my experience.. I didn't really know what I've done that make my phone cannot boot... it's all because not really prepared... Need to do some research and reading 1st..
Luckily, when done some reading, I manage to boot the phone after flashing with SEUS..
And after that... I prepare to do checklist... Now.. Everything seems OK...
genghisk said:
to the OP thanks a Lot i appreciate this Guide!
and on the same vein as the others i am having some problems pasting the contents of the ROM. i have given Super manager root prves. but it says not enough free desc space which seems right to me cus there is only 128Mb storage on the phone.
i feel like i am missing sumthing basic please assist me, Thanks!
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With your phone did you get a 2GB SD card? I did with mine and that's where you need to copy the ROM files to(you need to copy the files in windows to the SD card). The only thing I was copying with super manager was the xRecovery files. (and I'm not sure I needed to do that since you kinda install xrecovery on the flash tool, I just posted exactly what I did)
mss_2212, yeah using the SE repair might get you out of a few scrapes, it's good that they offer such a utility to completely flash your phone back to the latest SE update!
Well, V6.0a is now out I am downloading that as we speak.
^^ how is it running? i see BlueTooth not working.
i realize my error you were talking about copying the files for Xrecovery i thought you were referring to the ROM files.
Thanks for the help! I hope I success for the install of the last custom rom from CM 2.3! If it's good, it will be translate for the french forums! ;-)
I'm still setting it up to how I like it but so far so good - it's nie and stable for me and WI-FI works which is a dream.
Don't forget to make a backup first of your old ROM though!
Thanks
Hi!
I tried to install the last 2.3.3 CM7 with this guide, but I get a problem with the X10 flashtool... In fact, I don't understand if I have to lauch the .exe in my phone, or in the PC. Because with the phone I can "ask root perms" but I get an error (it says me to use usb debug the phone and install...) but I think that I've followed the guide And since the PC, there is no file in the "firmware" fold...
So I install the custom ROM, without that step, and it success, even if I get another problem, but I think, because of the instability of the rom (no market, and no possibility to dl by internet)
Thanks for the help!
Hello,
Not quite sure what you're getting at, I will try to help if I can (I'm still a bit of a noob really myself)
You need to run the x10 flash tool on the PC with your phone connected in usb debugging mode before it will work.
"Then before you plug the phone back in you need to put it into USB debugging mode again. Go into settings - applications - Development and click on the tick next to USB debugging to turn it on. Plug the phone back into the PC."
The Market and other applications are included in the latest version(.6a as of this writing) in a zip file called gapps-gb-20110307-signed.zip to install them you need to boot into xRecovery and choose install custom zip and then point it to that file which is next to the install.zip. Then the market will work.
v.6a is really nice but ultimately I had to revert because I needed to take some pics but a lot of stuff is working well!
I've looked all over but can't find a rescue.zip for pimp my rom. I didn't mess my device up, I just want a backup in case. There IS one in my SD card but it won't flash.
So, does anyone have a working rescue.zip?
(YES, I know I'm an idiot for not backing it up)
Why don't you just make a backup in TWRP or CWM?
peneoark said:
Why don't you just make a backup in TWRP or CWM?
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Because I need to have it as it was, which I don't
So I need someone with an unpimped nexus 7 to download it, back up a rescue package and upload it here so I can download it.
Make a backup of your current ROM.
Install the factory ROM and root it.
Make a backup of that.
Restore your current ROM from the backup in the first step.
Get a copy of both of 'em off the tablet someplace safe.
Easy-peasy.
bftb0 said:
Make a backup of your current ROM.
Install the factory ROM and root it.
Make a backup of that.
Restore your current ROM from the backup in the first step.
Get a copy of both of 'em off the tablet someplace safe.
Easy-peasy.
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The rescue pack is not avaliable at the moment. It will be very simple to fix problems by that way, but the pimpmyrom apk has a button to revert changes but doesnt work if you fail in a bootloop.
Regards
Pimp my rom beta rescue package
Hey now,
Go to this link & download the rescue package I tweaked. Make sure you create a Rescue zip using the Pimp My Rom Beta.apk (Thanks to Androguide. You Rock Dude) and name that one Resuce(1).zip. Extract my Rescue.zip and make sure you switch the build.props out (You can add whatever build.prop mod you want to it) by Opening the Rescue(1).zip and dragging the file to the extracted Rescue.zip. Make sure you open the rm.sh and change the scripts that correspond to your init.d folder using notepad. Last thing go into sys/cpu/scaling_freq and change those numbers to your numbers or you can deleted that folder all together just make sure you delete (extract sys/cpu.....) out of the updater script. Rezip it and it's ready to flash. Hope that didn't confuse you. Yeah you right!
BadBrainsEddie
New Orleans, LA
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My backup is well over 2gb. When I follow this process I do not have to store anything on my device other than a single 162mb zip file, that's a nearly 92% reduction!
As all owners know, the Moto G original is limited to 8gb of storage space. And I can't afford the space to store a complete backup on my device. Since storage space is more important to me than expediency I always park my backup on a laptop and on the cloud.
But my penchant for messing with things cannot be relied upon to wait until my lappy is nearby. So I keep an installation file for the lightest ROM that I could find for my device (it just so happens that it's also my daily driver, but that's not a requirement). I use that ROM to get me back online, then I download and restore my full backup. This process replaces my very large backup for a significantly smaller file.
The individual parts of this process are nothing new, but when combined may be helpful for those who are similarly situated. I cannot think of any reason why this wouldn't work for any device out there, regardless of the manufacturer, OS version, etc.
Pardon me if this has already been written up but I had not seen anything similar, at least not in one place.
Disclaimer: It is entirely your choice to try this. Anytime you alter your device you assume complete responsibility.
Note: A custom recovery is required.
Backup process.
1. Create a full backup using your preferred backup application.
2. Compress your backup (I use Nandroid Manager).
3. Upload your backup to the cloud (I use ES File Explorer).
4. Delete both the backup and the compressed zip from your device.
5. Download the lightest ROM for your device (I use Slimkat, it's only 162mb). I'll refer to this your initial ROM.
6. Enjoy the additional space and tinker away!
Note: You can use Slim as your initial ROM even if it is not your daily driver. The only reason for the initial ROM is to gain access to the full backup on the cloud.
Restoration process.
1. Boot into Recovery and prepare your device for a new ROM.
2. Install the initial ROM, boot and connect to Wifi.
3. Download your compressed backup from your cloud.
4. Move that file to your backup app's restoration folder and extract.
5. Reboot into recovery and restore your full backup.
6. After booting up, delete the backup and the uncompressed folder.
7. Verify that your initial ROM remains so that you can repeat this recovery processs the next time.
Notes:
This process does not involve gapps, and was performed using only the latest stable Slimkat installation. If you choose to use a different initial ROM you should verify that it will provide similar capabilities, specifically the ability to extract a compressed backup.
Since only minimal functions are required of the operating system someone more knowledgeable than me could greatly decrease the size of Slimkat zip file by eliminating superfluous apps and files.
You are free to share this in any way you want, I take no credit for anything related to this post. I thank the entire community for the selfless and helpful nature.
Comments and questions are welcomed.