htc announced today the desire hd which looks so similar to the hd2 but with more advanced htc sense contaning (Dlna for the first time the best alternative for tv out ), advanced sync options , advanced drivers an incredible camera program with face detection , and a music player like what we have on our windows mobile. that is what a device like hd2 need to have , go and figure out more features here
http://www.htc.com/www/product/desirehd/overview.html
http://www.htc.com/www/product/desirehd/domore.html
http://www.htc.com/www/product/desirehd/specification.html
just tell me why ?
what is wrong with the build they create now from old desire and nexus?
the Desire HD rom wont work also in 1 time
Veldmuus said:
just tell me why ?
what is wrong with the build they create now from old desire and nexus?
the Desire HD rom wont work also in 1 time
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i don't say it will work from the first time but it has allot of more features that deserves trying , and i think it is better to develope on this rather than on desire roms which our hd2 is superior to . and every one is free to make his choice
+1 looks pretty awesome
Veldmuus said:
just tell me why ?
what is wrong with the build they create now from old desire and nexus?
the Desire HD rom wont work also in 1 time
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Why? Because it's got a more Advanced version of Sense with deeper Android integration. Why wouldn't we want the latest and greatest for our phones?
What we need is all sensors work, no more SOD, freeze, PPP works........etc.., everything else is nice to have but not needed including advanced sense UI...
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What we need is all sensors work, no more SOD, freeze, PPP works........etc.., everything else is nice to have but not needed including advanced sense UI...
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roms developers are different from kernel developers so getting new ports willnot affect the progress on kernel development
So after we have fully function kernel, what we need is advanced sense UI? otherwise it won't function or what? sense UI is just a nice thing to have. some body like vanilla, some like Cyanogenmod, some like HTC Sense....
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Hey all. I'm new to the HD2 but not to android. I'm sure you've all seen the MIUI rom for desire and nexus. (if you haven't go here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or-9T44Bt7M&feature=player_embedded
To clarify :"It appears that the ROM has been mostly custom built using only the base from Android 2.2 and then building an exceptional interface on top that could beat anything else that currently exists.
From full FM radio support to completely customizable home screens, dedicated buttons on the lock screen that take you to the SMS app and the phone dialer."
Since its fore the desire/nexus, It should be an easy port to the HD2, I just need halp
I'm sure most of us would love to see this implemented on the HD2. I thought I could do it myself, but I've tried and failed. Below are two links. One for the full rom and the other is a link to the system.ext2 image I made from the /system folder of the ROM. I've tried a couple of different kernel combinations and still can't get it to boot (replaced the system.ext2 in shubcraft with the one I made and it just reboots). I don't yet know enough about android on the hd2 to get this working myself. So I figured I'd start a thread and see where we can get.
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http://fromhindsight.com/crap/system.ext2 -obviously the system.ext2 file I made.
http://fromhindsight.com/crap/miui-n1-0.9.20.zip - Link to the untouched nexus version of the rom.
http://fromhindsight.com/crap/system-english.zip System folder dump from the english port. Thanks to Kingxklick92
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Seems like the hd2 has quite the community following. I'm looking forward to working with you guys
UPDATE: 9-24-2010 : We do have a working test build that is being given out to a few folks. No ETA on a alpha or beta release. Hopefully this weekend. I'm tonight and tomorrow so I'll squeeze in some android time when I can. SARCASTILLO (guy who made hyperdroid) gets the credit for getting this thing booting. To see what we have in action go here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7x_6cuHM8g
Hey there biff, did you finally trade in the slide for an HD2? If so, im glad to see you over here now.
P.S. The music in the video makes me want to run up a big flight of stairs and air punch at the top.
i love the idea of "endles" possibilities when it comes to UI for a single phone and i hope you are succesful in porting this for HD2, but i HAVE to say
iOS UI on Android? YUCK *puke*
bbezja1 said:
i love the idea of "endles" possibilities when it comes to UI for a single phone and i hope you are succesful in porting this for HD2, but i HAVE to say
iOS UI on Android? YUCK *puke*
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its not iOS. I wouldn't dream of posting such a thing.
motoman234 said:
Hey there biff, did you finally trade in the slide for an HD2? If so, im glad to see you over here now.
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I did trade. So glad i did. Back on topic now lol.
LOL that's a fast hand on the video.
Let's have a duel
I like the speed of the UI, if it's real..
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I did trade. So glad i did. Back on topic now lol.
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Nice to hear that ! We always lack people like you, however the few Hd2 build developers have magic hands.
Maybe you already know that, but I suggest you to contact them directly for this great project because Hd2 is a very popular phone, so this forum is 99.9% populated by end-users. At the begining kernel developers tried to work into xda forums, but deserted for the Htc-linux Irc because of noise.
This would be so awesome!!!! DEVS, plz plz plz look at this !!
personally i'd love to see this ported! would be something... different!
I'm looking forward to it too. Looks interesting.
I rather run the actual os then the ui
I would definitly try the real OS if it would be possible cool to have all those OS es hehe
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I rather run the actual os then the ui
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To clarify, this is the android OS....
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To clarify, this is the android OS....
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he ment iOS
not iOS4 though
It looks nothing like the iOs nor IphoneOS nor firmware 4.0. Some people are here just to make a crowd. Anyway, to the OP, this is great. try to contact DarkSt0ne, Mattc, Dan1j3l. they could help. or, on twitter, contact the htc_linux guys. Hope you can make it and if you base it on the new Desire HD Rom, and include some other languages like japanese, your rom will be one of the greatest. Thank you and good luck
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Hope you can make it and if you base it on the new Desire HD Rom, and include some other languages like japanese, your rom will be one of the greatest. Thank you and good luck
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He meant the Dutch language.
infinitybiff said:
Hey all. I'm new to the HD2 but not to android. I'm sure you've all seen the MUI rom for desire and nexus. (if you haven't go here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or-9T44Bt7M&feature=player_embedded
To clarify :"It appears that the ROM has been mostly custom built using only the base from Android 2.2 and then building an exceptional interface on top that could beat anything else that currently exists.
From full FM radio support to completely customizable home screens, dedicated buttons on the lock screen that take you to the SMS app and the phone dialer."
Since its fore the desire/nexus, It should be an easy port to the HD2, I just need halp
I'm sure most of us would love to see this implemented on the HD2. I thought I could do it myself, but I've tried and failed. Below are two links. One for the full rom and the other is a link to the system.ext2 image I made from the /system folder of the ROM. I've tried a couple of different kernel combinations and still can't get it to boot (replaced the system.ext2 in shubcraft with the one I made and it just reboots). I don't yet know enough about android on the hd2 to get this working myself. So I figured I'd start a thread and see where we can get.
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http://fromhindsight.com/crap/system.ext2 -obviously the system.ext2 file I made.
http://fromhindsight.com/crap/miui-n1-0.9.20.zip - Link to the untouched nexus version of the rom.
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Seems like the hd2 has quite the community following. I'm looking forward to working with you guys
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I've been able to create a booting system...
but I don't have a signal... must be the libs or something...
wifi works and the ui is iOs-ish
some of the pop-ups and menus are in chinese so I'm not sure what I'm doing sometimes...
will post something as soon as I get the signal working. and camera... and etc....
Thanks pongster looking forward to the release when ever it is!
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cruise284 said:
Thanks pongster looking forward to the release when ever it is!
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not sure it'll be anytime soon.. just tried making it boot to play with....
looks like its an odexed system (will try to deodex) and using a heavily tweaked launcher ui... pretty sweet... includes google pinyin support OOTB (of course)
Sorry if I am being thick but I am sure I have read a thread or seen a video on youtube of someone with a Desire HD and the rom on it is the same as on a HD2 / HD7?
It definitely wasn't a WP7/WM port, but it might have been android running an alternative launcher, like Metro UI (this makes it LOOK like it's running WP7 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKm5ka8FatQ)
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It definitely wasn't a WP7/WM port, but it might have been android running an alternative launcher, like Metro UI (this makes it LOOK like it's running WP7 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKm5ka8FatQ)
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I tried it and is....s%$*.
Why would anyone wants WP7-look anyway?
Can You search for the youtube Video again? I couldn't find the DHD with WP7 on Youtube.
It sounds interessting. I wanna see it! (althoug I don't wanna have it! )
I have just seen some wildfire s movies and the point is:
it's runneing gingerbread and it has a flip clock.
My question is: If the htc wildfire s has nearly the same things as the normal wildfire.
Can we (if the wildfire s is released) port gingerbread from the s version to ours.
Or will there be an update with the new sense and gingerbread.
Please could someone that know something about it say something to me, please.
And my second question is: Can someone already put the new sense in a rom.
I hope someone really know something about it.
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My question is: If the htc wildfire s has nearly the same things as the normal wildfire.
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It is not nearly the same. It is totally different. And, to get the new Sense, the code has to be released by HTC. Till that, there wont be a GB Sense Enabled ROM for the Wildfire.
Also, I am pretty sure with the release of the S, HTC will not conveniently forget the original Wildfire and probably not release any updates for it. Its basically an EOL Product now. Its the way the industry works.
After some monthes on the market every mobile phone is EOL. You are right!
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
If you really want gingerbread on wildfire, you can try Cyanogen 7. There is no htc sense with cyanogen though.
Just for the new sense
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If you really want gingerbread on wildfire, you can try Cyanogen 7. There is no htc sense with cyanogen though.
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I know but I want the new sense xD
Its more like the aria or gratia (what is the point of that - considering the wildfire s is better) or legend or salsa than the wildfire (they are all the same phone in a different box with a different rom)
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CM 7
I'm using cm 7 right now.
It is very nice, but I've send a mail to HTC.
Hope they will answer.
I really like gingerbread, but I just want the new sense ( without buying a newer phone ).
So if I got mail about it.
Will you see it on this topic
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I'm using cm 7 right now.
It is very nice, but I've send a mail to HTC.
Hope they will answer.
I really like gingerbread, but I just want the new sense ( without buying a newer phone ).
So if I got mail about it.
Will you see it on this topic
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sorry but, you'll not get much out of them! Just a generalised response.
guus_1995 said:
I have just seen some wildfire s movies and the point is:
it's runneing gingerbread and it has a flip clock.
My question is: If the htc wildfire s has nearly the same things as the normal wildfire. -No, not the same hardware
Can we (if the wildfire s is released) port gingerbread from the s version to ours. -HVGA vs QVGA.... lots of resizing and xml, program modifying. And devs are not really interested
Or will there be an update with the new sense and gingerbread. - Not really with a spray of impossible
Please could someone that know something about it say something to me, please.
And my second question is: Can someone already put the new sense in a rom.
-I have not seen Sense 3.0 on a QVGA device, so low porting chances.
I hope someone really know something about it.
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blabla bla 10 chars
soory for this crappy thread
Hello people,
I'm using cm 7 right now.
This is a question to alex, I think that you know more about it.
So is it possible to port htc sense to cm7.
And so yes:How can I do it on my own.
So please answer.
edit ment normal sense.
It is possible to get the Gingerbread update but no way it would get the new Sense.
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Hello people,
I'm using cm 7 right now.
This is a question to alex, I think that you know more about it.
So is it possible to port htc sense to cm7.
And so yes:How can I do it on my own.
So please answer.
edit ment normal sense.
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No it's not possible to port anything HTC to an AOSP ROM, there is a theme though which makes it look like HTC Sense!
why not
djdevine2 said:
No it's not possible to port anything HTC to an AOSP ROM, there is a theme though which makes it look like HTC Sense!
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Why not.
I mean can not one app ported to a aosp rom?
Simply because HTC apps require a framework that AOSP ROMS do not have as it is power consuming and is slow.
guus_1995 said:
Why not.
I mean can not one app ported to a aosp rom?
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ok
djdevine2 said:
Simply because HTC apps require a framework that AOSP ROMS do not have as it is power consuming and is slow.
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that really sucks.
Is there any way to port something like a custom framework in a aosp or is this absolutly wrong question.
srry for my bad englisch
guus_1995 said:
that really sucks.
Is there any way to port something like a custom framework in a aosp or is this absolutly wrong question.
srry for my bad englisch
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Sadly the HTC framework is not compatible with AOSP ROMS at the ROMS have to support it. Your english is fine, don't worry!
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Sadly the HTC framework is not compatible with AOSP ROMS at the ROMS have to support it. Your english is fine, don't worry!
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Ok .
thank you anyway
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Ok .
thank you anyway
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As djdevine2 stated above, porting Sense would be very hard or even impossible. Sense is like a bug that crawls really deep inside the Android OS. Eliminating is it hard, I imagine introducing it would be also very, very hard.
And not to mention the possible Legal issues that could appear
maybe there is hope
It has also been rumored that the HTC Wildfire will receive the recently released 2.3 Gingerbread update.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Wildfire
This is just a rumor, but there is still hope.
Doesn't look so. If you look at the citation on that particular line, and, read that thread in another forum, there is nothing there to state that HTC has said anything about 2.3 on Wildfire. It is simply a speculative thread, and, points to CM7 for 2.3 on Wildfire.
"You can have your doubts about when your phone maker will finally get around to delivering an Android 2.3 update (March if you're with HTC, June if Samsung, 2017 if you're unfortunate enough to own a Sony Ericsson), but the smartphone dev community doesn't work that slowly. The guys who build custom ROMs just for the sheer pride of it have already begun work on delivering Gingerbread to owners of HTC's EVO 4G, Droid Eris, and Wildfire."
So, I have a Wildfire (not the wildfire S).
Does anyone have any guides on how to root it? Also, what's the best rom and radio for it?
Thank you
here you can find everything you need, cm7 is the best imo
darkstep said:
here you can find everything you need, cm7 is the best imo
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I here that doesn't have sense? What does it use?
What's the best one with sense?
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its aosp or vanilla android i dont us sense roms so cant tell you whats the best
I've used just about every rom going and each time I end up back with cm7, it just seems right to me, HTC sense to me now is just bloated with stuff you don't really need.
Edit: oh btw here's a list of guides, roms etc......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
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I here that doesn't have sense? What does it use?
What's the best one with sense?
Sent from my Desire HD
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I'm currently using my stock froyo ROM with sense, and using the nfinitymc4 kernel(which means I can overclock, this is the kernel you need if you are using a sense based ROM), I prefer this to CM, as I believe its easier to use, looks better and is as smooth performance as Cyanogen.
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I'm also using just a stock 2.2 with sense. i tried a few others but with every installation the phone seemed to get slower and slower. I did it all right but meh... anyway mines just a stock 2.2, but rooted and i reckon it runs great (considering the hardware limitations that is....)
Ah. Well he won't be using any major apps
Hell be using WiFi at home and that's it aswell as other basic phone features (call, todo list/calendar) and maybe sms.
I just wanted it so he could push some more juice out the battery fully charged.
I'll stick to stock. Any modifications in order to improve performance on stock roms?
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I am the developer of SkEye ( I can't post URLs yet. Search on Android Market by that name). The app works fine on 99% of the phones but not on HTC Wildfire! On Wildfire stock ROM, the app receives a SEGFAULT and closes silently. This shouldn't happen for a Java application, and from the logs it appears to be a bug in the OpenGL implementation in the stock ROM.
I don't have a Wildfire phone myself; but I get lots of user reports by email and Market comments.
Since we are talking about the best ROMs, can you try my app on your ROM and see if you manage to not crash the app?
Here's the exact sequence of steps to reproduce the bug:
Set the location on first run. Approx location will do.
Click Menu -> Indirect Mode
Click Add new alignment
Select any object. Doesn't matter which.
Click "Return" or press the back key.
Search for any object (Menu -> Search or the Search button)
If the app doesn't crash after this, please let me know your ROM. I will recommend it to my users.
Thanks!
Does your app depend on the usage of a GPU? The Wildfire and the Tattoo are among the few phones that doesn't have it, so that could be the problem.
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Does your app depend on the usage of a GPU? The Wildfire and the Tattoo are among the few phones that doesn't have it, so that could be the problem.
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It does require OpenGL, but doesn't strictly require a GPU. The interesting thing is that the app doesn't crash outright. It crashes only after the above steps are executed. I will start a separate thread in the developer section when I get access to it. For now, I would like to know if its a ROM specific issue. Particularly, does the Cyanogen ROM have this bug or not.
It crashed here also, on latest CyanogenMod 7 nightly. The "called unimplemented OpenGL ES API" errors in the log are fairly common though, and happens with almost all apps using OpenGL, like games etc. They still work fine though.
rempuzzle rom
To put in my two pennies worth, the REMPuzzle Rom is one of the best sense roms I've found:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978197
I find Google Maps runs very slowly on CM7 (due to the rendering technique CM uses) but works like a charm in REMPuzzle.
can i install rempuzzle rom if i installed cm 7 177 gingerbread??
if its yes tell me how to
thanks in advance
padremo said:
To put in my two pennies worth, the REMPuzzle Rom is one of the best sense roms I've found:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978197
I find Google Maps runs very slowly on CM7 (due to the rendering technique CM uses) but works like a charm in REMPuzzle.
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This isn't a issue of cyanogenmod, its because an older version (gmaps 5) is running on the sense roms, you can deinstall on cyanogen the new version of gmaps and install the old 5.0 and its running like on a sense rom. So don't blame cyanogenmod ( the best mod for me so far), no offence to you but most of the complains about cm7 are about users don't know how to handle cm7.
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This isn't a issue of cyanogenmod, its because an older version (gmaps 5) is running on the sense roms, you can deinstall on cyanogen the new version of gmaps and install the old 5.0 and its running like on a sense rom. So don't blame cyanogenmod ( the best mod for me so far), no offence to you but most of the complains about cm7 are about users don't know how to handle cm7.
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I'm not knocking CM - I've used it and know the workarounds. However, the OP asked for the best sense ROM so I gave my opinion.
well i have tried, CM7, remPuzzle and jokerdroid. for me jokerdroid is the best, its very simple too, just flash the thing and you are good to go. i really like the aero theme too.
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This isn't a issue of cyanogenmod, its because an older version (gmaps 5) is running on the sense roms, you can deinstall on cyanogen the new version of gmaps and install the old 5.0 and its running like on a sense rom. So don't blame cyanogenmod ( the best mod for me so far), no offence to you but most of the complains about cm7 are about users don't know how to handle cm7.
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I've got 5.9 running on rempuzzle rom. which version does cm7 have?
I hate threads like this, each rom has its good points and also bad points too.....
Its all about preference try the different roms till you find one that suits you, its taken me nearly 3 months to make my mind up and trust me I've tested every rom. I don't believe in an out of the box rom as the customization of android is just unbelievable, every single rom can be tailored to your own needs, tweaked for extra performance and should be too, else what's the point in this community?
I've only been using android for around 5 months to its full potential and everyday I'm learning more and more ways to make my phone my own and as unique as I can make it.
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I hate threads like this, each rom has its good points and also bad points too.....
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I agree, but it's always good to get opinions so you know where to start. When I first started out on custom ROMs replies like "try them all" just aren't helpful.
Hi Guys,
BEFOR you start complaining about how theres no such thing as a " Best " rom due to everyones different needs and such, - this i get
However what im asking for is a HTC Sense ROM which has everything working propperly, So Camera and Camcorder work, and Hot-Spot and so on
Reeason i ask ? Well ive been using MIUI for past 4 months and am now bord of it, and dont want ot use WP7
Thanks
MccM joon desire hd sd rom
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Simon_WM said:
Hi Guys,
BEFOR you start complaining about how theres no such thing as a " Best " rom due to everyones different needs and such, - this i get
However what im asking for is a HTC Sense ROM which has everything working propperly, So Camera and Camcorder work, and Hot-Spot and so on
Reeason i ask ? Well ive been using MIUI for past 4 months and am now bord of it, and dont want ot use WP7
Thanks
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You want everything working properly? Closest you'll get is a DesHD Froyo ROM (obviously not MCCM's SD one but basically a NAND version) or maybe a Sense 2.1 ROM (I think everything works on those)
To me that's like asking where is the best place to get stabbed at
Why not try CM7? It's fast as hell! (Dorimanx' Latest)
Are sense ROMs really that bad on the HD2 then? I thought they were bad on the Wildfire! I gotta say that I quite like sense but after looking around these ROMs CM9 is just too tempting
They work, but not fast enough for me though
You should definitely try AOKP ICS(CM9), they fixed the hardware acceleration!
That should make a BIG difference in speed.
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