http://pointui.com/Home.aspx
Its free and looks pretty cool... gonna install it when i get home (no cables here) if anyone has a play before the end of the day i'd appreciate opinions before i do the deed myself!
mark
Well, i gave it a try yesterday on my WM5 wizard.
Its overall look and feel is really quite impressive. All the animations are unbelivably smooth, even without any overclocking. The app is finger-friendly, but i dislike list scrolling method they used - it's not like the one in fTouchflo, or iContact, where you scroll the list as if it was a physical object and moves in sync with the finger sweeping the screen, but instead the list moves in the direction of the sweep: if you put your finger on the screen and move it down a bit, the list will start scrolling down at constant speed. if you move finger farther down, it will accelerate and again keep constant speed if finger is still. if you move finger up, it will slow down, move it u even farther, ant the list will reverse direction and scroll up. It's not very intuitive, not to mention that it's really hard to use to precisely scroll long lists. If they changed this one thing, the overall fell of the program would improve significantly.
Beside that UI is clean and well designed, gives you quick access to start menu, settings (control panel, wifi, BT, GSM module, sound volume), tasks, calendar, appointments and clock, it also has some customizable menus for accessing frequently used software.
The downside is that it replaces your Today screen, so you won't be able to use your favorite Today plugins.
Overall, it's worth a try, especially for a user who just wants a phone with a simple, yet really good-looking interface. More advanced users who like to be able to customize everything might find this a bit limiting.
Overall, the program really has huge potential, and let's not forget that it's just the first public version. It will certainly improve over time. I'd recommend giving it a try, just be aware that there are some uninstallation issues read the tread on pointUI forums for more info, or if you have something like SPB backup or other software that does FULL device backup, use it and if something goes wrong, simply HR the device.
By the way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355961&page=5
Given it a try, and was impressed by the smooth flowing interactive menu's. But I find its quicker and easier to use SPB Shell (yes it looks basic in comparison but its straight forward and easily customised) and have therefore unistalled the software. However do not be put off by my comments, give it a go.
tange.
prior to my phone breaking (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=284 solutions on a postcard please) i used this UI for a few days and throught it was pretty cool. theres deffo a learning curve as some of the apps are located in strange places but overall i was very happy with it.
Impressive, but very bad support for non-English OS.
Give it time. Its a brand new and revolutionary program and those guys are doin it all in their free time so you got to give them time.
I'm running this on my wizard, Tried it and I liked it enough that I won't leave it alone.
Runs fast on my wizard, thumb approved, things are organized a little funny but after a day of using it everything is cool, I haven't looked yet but I would like to custom the 4 icons that lauch programs and some things are linked incorrectly but overall i'm impressed with the program out of box and I hope development keeps up.
i just wanted to ask
does the weather application on PointUI cost... if so.. .does any1 no how much
thanks in advance
weather is free
i think they get their weather info from yahoo/weather channel, free
PontUI
Been using this for 3 days now and I love it. This and pocketCM with a the pontUI skin is amazing. Also the Iphone a like skin works well.
The main screen is great with the middle ribbon allowing really smooth action to access Analogue clock, digital clock, Calender, Tasks, Local weather and appointments.
Main screen top contains from left to right; Lock, signal meter Carrier info, Volume, Battery and Cog (settings).
You can lock the device on lock icon, hit the signal icon and the screen flip animates to show all connections settings (Flight mode, phone status wifi things like that) Hit the Speaker Icaon and you can adjust phone and speaker volumes as well as mute. hit the battery icon (which show bat level) and you can see battery life and go to power settings and backlight settings (well I can't but hey it's a beta) Hit the Cog and too many settings to list but among them is update feature so you can get the latest version straight to your device, you can also exit PontUI Home from here.
You have four icon down the bottom of the main screen which are, left to right; phone icon for call history list, tap it then swipe right on a name to call or sms them. Envelope icon press this to go to your email account (can choose which one through new registry string) next is SMS icon tap it to go to standard SMS app. Then last is the WM Icon, tap to go to windows media player (can choose which one through new registry string).
There is also a bar with an arrow down the bottom which you tap this then gives you four options; New, from which you can create new Email, SMS, MMS, Appointment, task, document or spreadsheet.
Favourites which shows all apps in the start menu folder. Applications which allows to to smoothly scroll through all installed apps and Currently running which does what it says on the tin.
As this App evolves i'm sure these menus will become nicely configurable.
I 'm really loving this App and it's only BETA. I'm running HTC Trinity (orange M700) and it's just sooo smooth. I tried Freestyl, which is good and I've been following, but when I tried this, I was blown away.
It's kind of nice to have an App that seems to integerate well with the phone rather than being a kind of clucky overlay that you can tell isn't meant to be there.
I urge you all to try it and see what you think.
Cheers all.
Logicalstep
loving it
What i think they can improve are:
1 make the hardware buttons to work, now i can't take a picture, record any sound, or change the volume with the h-buttons.
2 a contacts app will be nice and as well a favorite contacts like the htc home
3 a way to close app on the currently running menu
4 a little bigger back button or more to the left cause when i try to pres the back button with the tumb i usually had to try 2 or 3 times couse is really near to the border.
finaly a way to select favorite app that don’t depend of the start menu
don’t get me wrong i think that app is amazing but this 5 thing will make it perfect to me
I am loving Pointui!
We x10 users are growing in numbers by the second and it will be a while before we have the luxury of rooting, themes and fixes but what interests me more is having my gripes being herd so the stock phones little issues, bugs and failures software wise are highlighted before the major update in September is released.
So I’m thinking lets list our finding in this thread. From anger causing faults to suggestions to make current features better. Being an SE fan since the T610 I know that SE has a very odd relationship with its fans and something’s don’t hit home when they are staring them in the face but I’m hoping some things will stick.
Once some ideas come in I’d like to create a voting system but I’m not sure how to but I’m willing to take advice. Voting would be useful as I doubt all requests would be seen and acted upon (if any) but it would at least show a priority amongst the x10 users/developers.
So to be clear note software issues that could actually be corrected, improved or implemented. Posting this link on blogs near and far would get our wishes on the radar so please do so as I will. Starting with this one I reckon: http://blogs.extranet.sonyericsson.com/products/
To get the ball rolling...
Generally:
Hit areas for most of the UI seems a little out, maybe a calibration tool like that one found on windows mobile would solve this issue phone wide.
Selecting any audio file give an option to assign to the main ring ringtone. An additional option to assign to a contact seems only natural to be added.
Mediascape:
The track scrub bar is so random and dearly needs its hit area working on.
Old SE features like shake to shuffle, rock clockwise or anti-clockwise to skip forward or backwards/previous, hold on the volume rocker to skip forward or backwards/previous when the phone is locked.
These features are signature SE and I find it odd that they aren’t part of the phones features
Timescape:
It become apparent that this is simply a fancy viewer but it would be amazing for this application to actually be useful and enable the user to send messages in facebook mail and chat. The same for tweeter would make this app more than something people play with for a day.
Viewing the messages via the infinity button looks great, can this not be the default view when actually texting a contact. Contact Pictures and highlighted/different coloured threads.
There’s more but I can add them later.
Mediascape
This is not a bad player at all. But it has too many issues and shortcomings.
1) Its home page is almost useless, because the content in it is hardly what I'm looking for. When I click an album in the home page, I just want to hear that album.
2) I usually just want to browse for artists and albums, and to do this I have to press the little button in the upper right corner of the home screen. So, I would a much more simple, responsive and finger friendly interface. The slider is also very difficult to use.
3) When I disconnect the phone from A2DP, the current now playing list disappears and I can't resume it.
4) I just want indexed audio files in the /sdcard/music folder. Now I get indexed also ringtones and other audio files in SD card (for example, sound effects of a game) and this is a bit annoyance.
5) No way to control playback with device locked. My old SE phones allowed that by long pressing volume keys.
Timescape
After some tests, I no longer use it. I use the GMail client and the stock Facebook application. So I would like to be able to disable timescape and its integration with Contacts and Phone functionality.
Battery
If it is possible to do something via software to improve battery life, do it!
Hardware
I know it is impossible to do a "hardware patch", however I have found 4 basic issues that will drive my choice when I will buy my next smartphone, so this is actually a wish list for the next Xperia:
1) with this hardware design, it is almost impossible to do a good cradle/car holder, and given the very good GPS, this is a HUGE issue...
2) USB connector on top: this is related to the cradle issue, but it is also very uncomfortable speaking at phone when charging the device at home. The USB connector HAS TO BE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE DEVICE!
3) the maximum volume of the speaker is unacceptably low.
4) I really miss some kind of "joystick" to quickly navigate the UI without the touch.
Nice topic!
General:
* It should be possible to stop certain apps (moxier, maps, voice dialer, etc) from autostarting.
E-mail:
* Should be possible to set this app to download only headers. This is such a basic feature.
* Should be possible do discard/not show the oldest messages in inbox. It is already taking a while to load my inbox, what will happen in 6 months?
* Need to be able to attach other types of files than photos.
* When adding e-mail addresses from e-mails to existing contacts, the contact's name should not be overwritten.
Mediascape:
* Definitely needs the possibility to change track during key lock (i.e. holding volume keys).
* It annoys me that long track titles aren't centered.
Photos/camera:
* Need easy access to flashlight!
* Face recognition/identification is messed up, keeps forgetting added names and assigning random new ones. Needs a lot of work!
* When adding a photo as contact photo, it should not be necessary to scroll through all contacts starting from A. Should be possible to choose the first letter (as in contact list), or start spelling.
Contact list:
* When adding a photo to a contact, it should check if I have labeled that contact in any pictures, and suggest those (not just camera roll or standard icons).
Timescape:
* Should be able to display MMS. For example, use image as background and text as text.
* Should be able to display (scroll) longer facebook statuses, rather than sending me to the website.Widget for enabling/disabling wifi, GPS, etc should also include APN, which is not very easily accessible from the menus (many clicks).
Keyboards/language:
* I am missing an easy way to switch between languages (dictionaries)
* Should be possible to delete isolated words that the phone has automatically picked up. Don't want the phone to suggest all my misspelled words in the future. Deleting ALL saved words is not an option.
General
Definitely needs to be a way to disable included apps you're not using (Moxier and Timescape for me)
Info from the Testing menu (dial *#*#4636#*#*) should be available through the standard Settings menu.
Should be a way to adjust the various volumes on the fly without having to go through the Settings menu (pressing the volume keys only changes the Ringer volume, unless actively using Media, in which case Media volume is adjusted).
Would be nice to have a simple app to turn the camera light on and off for use as a flashlight.
Timescape
I don't find it useful at all. The information presented is too limited and the application is dog slow until it's all loaded and updated. Dedicated Facebook and Twitter apps are far better, as is Gmail.
Mediascape
I find it can be slow loading up file lists.
As lornova stated, the home page is useless. I'd rather be taken directly to my files.
Definitely needs lock screen controls. The lack thereof is the primary reason I switched to bTunes for music.
Needs support for DivX, XVid, and other common video codecs (FLV would be a bonus).
Contacts
Lacks options for standard fields from Gmail, such as "website" and "birthdate".
Needs to use the Facebook integration more extensively, automatically linking profiles to contacts and pulling contact photos in (if you choose an option to do so).
Facebook app needs to be registered as a link handler for Facebook links.
Camera
Needs a toggle for the camera light in the main camera UI.
Would be nice if the camera light could be used as a proper flash.
That's it at the moment. I may add more later.
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I do want to mention, that despite the above issues/requests, I do love my X10 and am very pleased with it overall. But nothing is perfect afterall.
Great thread and I agree with most of the above.
Timescape - I don't use it and perhaps it is a little ahead of it's time. I still see Facebook / Email / SMS as seperate communication methods with seperate purposes, Timescape merges them into one (OK, I know you can seperate them, but still..) it does not still feel natural to merge them into one continuous thread. Perhaps in 5 years time this sort of view will be natural but today I still like to access Facebook / Email / SMS seperately.
Mediascape - The X10 is great as a music player and actually sounds better than my iPOD. Mediascape is almost there but to repeat what has been said above, why does the mediascape homescreen list the recently played as default ? If I have just played an album, why would I want to play it again next time? It would be so much more useful to have random album selections on the front page, or semi-random choices based on the types of tracks recently played.
The 'More' button to get to albums/artists is tricky to press when you are stood in a crowded train, make it biGGER !
The slider for artists/albums/tracks/playlists is almost impossible to use without at least 5 attempts to select the wanted option. SE must have done a field trial with the X10 before the release, why were such simple things not picked up or corrected ?
Battery - Not so much a complaint as it was a week ago, I now manage 30+ hours charge life with reasonable heavy usage, using Moxier/GPS/Bluetooth (no WiFi!), I need to sleep at least 7 hours a day so I have no problem with my phone doing/charging the same. However there are some strange things in regards to battery life on the X10, I have had everything from 7 hours to 35 hours life for a complete charge. I have given up worrying about it but feel convinced that WiFi is the root cause for fast battery drain, even when switched off.
Regardless to the above, I think my X10 is great, the positives far outweigh the negatives and the majority of the negatives could (SHOULD) be easily addressed in a software update. I have friends with Nexus ONE's and HTC phones and I still prefer the X10 WoW, indeed some of my Nexus ONE friends prefer the X10 WoW but still ask is it worth the extra cost ? (I believe it is !!)
I think many of the 'issues' are driven by Android still being an immature OS, the iPhone still feels more smoother and more together than the Android, but the real benefit of Android is the possibilites for customizations... I love being able to see email/rss/news updates on the home screen each time I switch on, rather than having to open up individual apps as I do on the iPhone....
I won't repeat all of the good comments so far.. I agree with most of them..
So, some additional points.
The "Sleep" button on the top of the phone shouldn't be used differently when you're on a call.. I'd like to be able to lock my handset when I'm on a bluetooth call, not wait for it to time out.
More end user customisation in the feature apps would be a great feature (ie.. being able to define your own home screen on Mediascape, so you can make it what suits your needs).
A better photo viewer (This is one thing that the iphone does much better). The standard one is a bit clunky...
A few people have suggested a bigger button to go to the "more" screen.. why not just do what everything else does and allow you to swipe across to it (surely that's the most natural thing to do?!)
When you've named someone.. an option for the phone to go and fetch all other photo's featuring that person would be good..
built in options to manage the start-up of apps.. and monitor your phones performance.
If I think of anything else.. I'll re-post.
A built in deskside alarm clock - that replicates a normal digital clock; I've not found any in the market that really do a good job.
Calendar option - ability to goto a specific date in the calendar rather than having to scroll through to find it.. ("Fancy going to see x in concert on the 23rd Sept?", "ooh, I don't know, give me 5 minutes to find that date in my calendar")
Dialer
Smart Dialing, ability to select different logs.
UI Buttons & selectable text like phone numbers in Person Information
They are just too tiny to click it right. Requires to touch at a precise place. Plus, gets very hard to call someone while driving.
MediaScape
Need to be able to creat playlists.
Need to be able to add a track to current playing queque.
TimeScape
Tweeter/Facebook tiles should have option to pick up Photos from contacts when available. Also improve UI to make text more readable like have a bubble like layer to display text.
headphone/mic
While listening to music, if we get a call it requires us to unplug the headphones to speak on phone. That should be fixed to use the mic on phone.
Lock/Unlock
When on call, the power button should work as screen lock instead of ending the call.
The center Home button should not turn on display when pressed. This is making the display turn on/off constantly when you have phone in pant pocket and is probably draining the battery.
Plus most of the items already listed...
my wishlist:
- increase call volume
- cure wifi bug where wifi drops when the phone loses the mobile network signal
Mediascape
- put in an equalizer
- allow forward/rewind of tracks via the volume rockers when screen is off, just like on all other SE phones
PIM
- make Contacts show birthdays
- then allow Calendar to import birthdays from Contacts!
- incorporate tasks ( and please allow repeatable tasks) into Calendar
- cure Google Calendar sync issues (i have NEVER been able to sync with Google Calendar as yet)
^^
all very basic PIM stuff, although i realize that this is more a Google issue than an SE one
otherwise, i LOVE my X10. a fantastic piece of kit!
Please put all the bugs you have found in Froyo in this thread and eventually this can be forwarded to HTC.
Edit: the push functionality seems to be working to some capacity.
- Crash/force close -
Internet Browser
*Issue: When selecting accept all plugins in the settings for the stock browser it will force close on execution
**Work around/solution: Select to clear all data in the application settings for the browser
- Loss of functionality -
Email App/Widget
*Issue: Push email not working as before. The email will sometimes fail to sync (when other mail clients can sync) and push communications is sometimes only one way (phone to webmail)
- Non-verified bugs/issues -
Google Earth
*Issue: Google Earth App not available on market
I am expiriencing a very bad performance of SenseUI after upgrading to froyo. Everything is slower than it was before?
very bad performance if I use live wallpapers.
thats all for now^^
The browser has a few issues - when a page is still loading, there is a refresh button instead of a stop button, and copy and paste is very buggy.
Tracebustabustabusta said:
Please put all the bugs you have found in Froyo in this thread and eventually this can be forwarded to HTC.
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I think it would be best if users post what ROM they're using...
But back on topic: Sometimes my sense restarts with no error report/popup whatsoever...
All my alarms were resetted... Could be just my phone, I dunno, but quite annoying if I hadn't noticed
All my alarms where reset aswell....but that's not a big problem to me. What is, is that also my entire agenda/calendar was wiped. :/
And it does seem froyo is loading stuff (like picture preview tiles, app lists, setting menus, the folder list in 'Pictures' app, etc.) a lot slower then eclair. And I'm not even running an animated wallpaper.
Let's go!
- Although Froyo is way faster for everthing, sometimes (i mean often!) my phone starts to slow down and i've unfortunately to reboot my phone..
- The music app has become resistant to task killers (at least on my phone). Probably like a bacteria to antibiotics??
Some surprises:
- Fonts are more beatiful to read, especially the text under icons (that striked me when I just updated)
-My greys are not pinkish anymore!!!
- Fonts on the SMS app are a bit bigger and it's really better (but the textfield is not as beautiful as before), and we have photos like on handcent on the conversations list.
I will not list everthing because there is a topic on the desire forums but i hadn't read that.
As I have mentioned in my thread everything works fine for me howeverwhen called or trying to call the other side does not hear my voice
Tracebustabustabusta said:
Email App/Widget
*Issue: Push email not working as before. The email will sometimes fail to sync (when other mail clients can sync) and push communications is sometimes only one way (phone to webmail)
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I'm suffering from this bug, it chooses if and when to sync itself lol.
tnakir said:
I am expiriencing a very bad performance of SenseUI after upgrading to froyo. Everything is slower than it was before?
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same here its slower then before...also app drawer is laggy.
Try removing the live backgrounds, it works like a charm without it.
Go around the loss of push email by installing a non HTC phone's mail.apk.
I have the 2.1 Milestone and it works beautifully.
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA App
Im running the de-branded UK Vodafone Froyo ROM and honestly have to say there are no issues with speed at all. Even with live wallpapers running, all homescreens remain fast and smooth, as does the app drawer.
I did do a fresh install however with a full wipe, I then used TitaniumBackup to restore alarms, SMS messages, etc when done
Did not wipe or factory reset, just installed froyo. Everything works fine. No speed issues, my weather started working correct again, push mail works fine. And after living with sms bug for one whole day, i'm very happy to say it's gone... So suprisingly nothing to complain about yet.
New day, new bugs.
- Loss of functionality -
Wifi Connection
*Issue: An active wifi connection will stop working properly if the phone has been in sleep mode for some time. The wifi connection symbol will still be displayed (and always at the same level of reception (in my case full)) and the email clients will not warn of lack of connection and instead try to sync for ever.
**Work around/solution: Change wifi policy settings in settings - wifi - menu button - advanced from 15 minutes to something else. This might work to some extent, otherwise solution is to disable and re-enable wifi connection.
Hi, one annoying detail after updating: my 'Gmail Unread Count' widget has suddenly started to launch the Gmail app opening the most recent message, instead of opening the inbox.
When I launch Gmail directly from the apps list, it opens the inbox as it should. 'Course this issue is not related to Froyo, but I imagine I'm not the only one dependent on the 'Unread Count' widget. Anyone experiencing the same?
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA App
I'm experiencing extreme performance degradation after the upgrade to Froyo!
I'm running an unbranded HTC Legend, stock rom, upgraded via Systems Software Updates OTA, I'm running ADW and Handscent. Other that that, it's stock. (3.15.405.3)
People are complaining that they can't hear me properly! This is the biggest concern I have so far!
Switching between Home Screens is slower, it hangs and it's less responsive. (Swipe, hangs for a second, then moves)
Using the back button to exit apps is very VERY slow. (Handscent is almost unusable)
Opening apps is slower. When pressing app, it zoom towards the screen faster, but hangs afterwards.
Scrolling in almost every app/widget is slow and lags!!!!!!
Entering the lock screen pattern is very slow
Scrolling the app drawer is very slow
It appears it's mostly a scrolling issue?
Another thing is that lock screen does not always work. The screen goes off and when I enable it again, I get right to the first home screen. Ie. no lock pattern. (FOUND IT : It now says "lock screen after 5 minutes"....so I set it to immediately.)
Also using "Gmail Unread Count" widget goes straight to first message, not the inbox. Does not matter if the message is already read.
Tracebustabustabusta said:
New day, new bugs.
- Loss of functionality -
Wifi Connection
*Issue: An active wifi connection will stop working properly if the phone has been in sleep mode for some time. The wifi connection symbol will still be displayed (and always at the same level of reception (in my case full)) and the email clients will not warn of lack of connection and instead try to sync for ever.
**Work around/solution: Turn off wifi connection then turn it on again.
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Try going into the WiFi settings, then press the menu button and choose advanced. You will find WiFi sleep options in here. Choose the second or third option as you see fit. I've not tested it but I think it may solve your problem.
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA App
Sebastian768 said:
I'm experiencing extreme performance degradation after the upgrade to Froyo!
Switching between Home Screens is very slow
Using the back button to exit apps is very VERY slow
Opening apps is much slower
Scrolling in almost every app/widget is slow and lags
Entering the lock screen pattern is very slow
Scrolling the app drawer is very slow
It appears it's mostly a scrolling issue?
Another thing is that lock screen does not always work. The screen goes off and when I enable it again, I get right to the first home screen. Ie. no lock pattern. (FOUND IT : It now says "lock screen after 5 minutes"....so I set it to immediately.)
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I experienced the slowness briefly, but after rebooting a couple of times it seems fine - if anything actually much faster! Not sure what exactly is causing the problem though...
1- Windows Phone 8 Lackings
a) Items that Must be in a Mobile OS which Windows Phone Missing
• Call duration information is not exist in OS (I still can't believe)
• There is No Notification center. If you miss it to see. You miss it.
• Folderizing those bunch list of application list cannot be scrolled faster. And I believe it should have been foldered.
• Photos doesn’t have custom folders. It supposed to be added for customization and also a security key would be good.
• There is no Sound profiles center you need to close vibrating in a long way from settings/sounds.
• Google apps are missing including YouTube at all. No Google apps is something really to be sad.
• Percentage for battery level is not exist natively.
• GPS toggle does not exist so location finding is not working in airplane mod. GPS doesn't work even if you downloaded offline maps and turned wifi on. You need to have cellular signal to make GPS on. So definitely GPS toggle must be build.
• Location center should be letting user to choose which application can use which not.. It is just one option to be on n off..
And somehow periodically I see location icon on top even those map and location background are fully limited, and I can't see what application is currently using my location. And this makes me feel phone is going against my privacy.
• When theme color is changed, OS based native tiles is changing color instantly but the Tiles that have been created by applications, doesn't change color unless being run once. And you need to open all those apps to update new theme color.
• Skype is fully buggy that doesn't let video chat. Neither doesn't work in background fully online. Cannot call online iphone users etc.. It may not be considered as developed application.
• Whatsapp is buggy. Developer said that it’s because of windows platform and porting issues. If you lock screen in whatsapp there won't be any new notification, you need to check it manual. This is so annoying. So after you write you need to leave application. And lock phone to receive notifications. Also It can't send any picture from screen shots. Additional when you return back to application it always needs to be loaded and makes you waited 3 seconds every time which is a huge time that being wasted.
• Cannot close applications. Windows Phone OS cannot close any application. You need to hammer back button 15 times to resume beginning. But somehow also it’s not enough in some cases. There are some apps that asks to be exit and needs confirmations. Some apps directly being closed , some apps goes back inside its navigation like IE n Flickr until start page and then being closed. So Windows phone does not have ability to close app in one standard way.
• In the messaging and, email There is no “Select all option” ... u need to select one by one each mail or message to erase
• I don't know outside my country but in computer when I open find my phone service that never works. It doesn't work at all. Even it is turned on settings. Nokia asked me to ask it Microsoft. And Microsoft didn't reply me. I think for some countries location services doesn't work. In Turkey it does not work.
• Phone alarm should have been working even phone is turned off.
• Text writing should have undo with shaking, sometimes when using shortcut words over keyboard if you press wrong word u cannot go back and fix it so need to re write all. Shake left should make undo which is not exist currently..
• Phone storage does not show you size of application music and pictures. Just there is one cumulative bar which is so useless to show overall instead of separating each kind.
• Where I spend the battery? U won’t know where. This should be adapted because there are lots of people discussing it in forums that battery levels are normal if not for what reason. And since it is new OS and we all end users are behaved like testers, we need to make, things certain.
• Wi-Fi saved passwords or rest of other password doesn't being seen again even there is a thick that says “show password”. There is this option but completely in functional and doesn’t let you to see passwords.
• 3rd party music or video downloader apps makes its work. But those downloaded music’s are not being able to reach from native music applications. It just stays in the 3rd party applications library and can be reach from it. Native windows music player should have been reach all mp3 which is downloaded.
• Rotation option doesn't exist. It is mandatory to be rotated if u hold it horizontally. And it makes phone so un stable in bed when writing. That is so annoying that phone doesn't has this option. It is mandatory to use it vertical.
• When typing text in a text box, there is no standard to how to hide keyboard. Every app works different. You cannot say a certain way to hide keyboard, and scroll to see what has been written. Also scrolling doesn't have a standard way either. Also, Text assisting, words are appearing in some apps, but not appearing in some. It doesn’t have standard too. There should have been one way for everything!
• Physical search button should be configured to run a search application which can be change into Google yahoo etc.. Also search button same time should have been looking email contents and apps
• Random reboots. I can't believe that happens almost every 3 days once and it has been reported more often, with some series..
b) Optional Additions
• There is no Instagram
• Multitasking gestures
• Unable to find enough local apps for turkey,
• Dropbox would be nice addition
• Lock button and keyboard click sound is bad for me. Should be personalized
• Even it has graphics card, which game, exist to use it. We almost don't have a nice 3d game, to be impressed with graphics.
• There is no live tile that shows clock, and date same as HTC does. Also it would be good if native clock app live tile enhanced including selected city times rotating in tile.
• Since start menu is customizable with a theme color , all applications must have been force a icon color weather is native or theme color and user should pick it up how to be.
• Screen brightness is just tree Level doesn't let to make a fine setting. And long way to reach from settings,menu.
• People hub tile should be have an option to show people profile pics or not. Sometimes in formal situations, on the phone stupid profile pics makes me shame.. Also favorite persons should,be included. I don't,want to see some,of ppl there,and I don't,get in,what logic ppl hub selects those ppl
• There is Turkish language support,
There is Turkish keyboard
There is Turkish keyboard assistant
But there, is no voice command for, Turkish language. Downloadable content for languages is just a few. This technology is not completed for many.
Not only voice command but also
Bing search doesn't exist on my native language.
m_carleone82 said:
1- Windows Phone 8 Lackings
a) Items that Must be in a Mobile OS which Windows Phone Missing
• Call duration information is not exist in OS (I still can't believe)
• There is No Notification center. If you miss it to see. You miss it.
• Folderizing those bunch list of application list cannot be scrolled faster. And I believe it should have been foldered.
• Photos doesn’t have custom folders. It supposed to be added for customization and also a security key would be good.
• There is no Sound profiles center you need to close vibrating in a long way from settings/sounds.
• Google apps are missing including YouTube at all. No Google apps is something really to be sad.
• Percentage for battery level is not exist natively.
• GPS toggle does not exist so location finding is not working in airplane mod. GPS doesn't work even if you downloaded offline maps and turned wifi on. You need to have cellular signal to make GPS on. So definitely GPS toggle must be build.
• Location center should be letting user to choose which application can use which not.. It is just one option to be on n off..
And somehow periodically I see location icon on top even those map and location background are fully limited, and I can't see what application is currently using my location. And this makes me feel phone is going against my privacy.
• When theme color is changed, OS based native tiles is changing color instantly but the Tiles that have been created by applications, doesn't change color unless being run once. And you need to open all those apps to update new theme color.
• Skype is fully buggy that doesn't let video chat. Neither doesn't work in background fully online. Cannot call online iphone users etc.. It may not be considered as developed application.
• Whatsapp is buggy. Developer said that it’s because of windows platform and porting issues. If you lock screen in whatsapp there won't be any new notification, you need to check it manual. This is so annoying. So after you write you need to leave application. And lock phone to receive notifications. Also It can't send any picture from screen shots. Additional when you return back to application it always needs to be loaded and makes you waited 3 seconds every time which is a huge time that being wasted.
• Cannot close applications. Windows Phone OS cannot close any application. You need to hammer back button 15 times to resume beginning. But somehow also it’s not enough in some cases. There are some apps that asks to be exit and needs confirmations. Some apps directly being closed , some apps goes back inside its navigation like IE n Flickr until start page and then being closed. So Windows phone does not have ability to close app in one standard way.
• In the messaging and, email There is no “Select all option” ... u need to select one by one each mail or message to erase
• I don't know outside my country but in computer when I open find my phone service that never works. It doesn't work at all. Even it is turned on settings. Nokia asked me to ask it Microsoft. And Microsoft didn't reply me. I think for some countries location services doesn't work. In Turkey it does not work.
• Phone alarm should have been working even phone is turned off.
• Text writing should have undo with shaking, sometimes when using shortcut words over keyboard if you press wrong word u cannot go back and fix it so need to re write all. Shake left should make undo which is not exist currently..
• Phone storage does not show you size of application music and pictures. Just there is one cumulative bar which is so useless to show overall instead of separating each kind.
• Where I spend the battery? U won’t know where. This should be adapted because there are lots of people discussing it in forums that battery levels are normal if not for what reason. And since it is new OS and we all end users are behaved like testers, we need to make, things certain.
• Wi-Fi saved passwords or rest of other password doesn't being seen again even there is a thick that says “show password”. There is this option but completely in functional and doesn’t let you to see passwords.
• 3rd party music or video downloader apps makes its work. But those downloaded music’s are not being able to reach from native music applications. It just stays in the 3rd party applications library and can be reach from it. Native windows music player should have been reach all mp3 which is downloaded.
• Rotation option doesn't exist. It is mandatory to be rotated if u hold it horizontally. And it makes phone so un stable in bed when writing. That is so annoying that phone doesn't has this option. It is mandatory to use it vertical.
• When typing text in a text box, there is no standard to how to hide keyboard. Every app works different. You cannot say a certain way to hide keyboard, and scroll to see what has been written. Also scrolling doesn't have a standard way either. Also, Text assisting, words are appearing in some apps, but not appearing in some. It doesn’t have standard too. There should have been one way for everything!
• Physical search button should be configured to run a search application which can be change into Google yahoo etc.. Also search button same time should have been looking email contents and apps
• Random reboots. I can't believe that happens almost every 3 days once and it has been reported more often, with some series..
b) Optional Additions
• There is no Instagram
• Multitasking gestures
• Unable to find enough local apps for turkey,
• Dropbox would be nice addition
• Lock button and keyboard click sound is bad for me. Should be personalized
• Even it has graphics card, which game, exist to use it. We almost don't have a nice 3d game, to be impressed with graphics.
• There is no live tile that shows clock, and date same as HTC does. Also it would be good if native clock app live tile enhanced including selected city times rotating in tile.
• Since start menu is customizable with a theme color , all applications must have been force a icon color weather is native or theme color and user should pick it up how to be.
• Screen brightness is just tree Level doesn't let to make a fine setting. And long way to reach from settings,menu.
• People hub tile should be have an option to show people profile pics or not. Sometimes in formal situations, on the phone stupid profile pics makes me shame.. Also favorite persons should,be included. I don't,want to see some,of ppl there,and I don't,get in,what logic ppl hub selects those ppl
• There is Turkish language support,
There is Turkish keyboard
There is Turkish keyboard assistant
But there, is no voice command for, Turkish language. Downloadable content for languages is just a few. This technology is not completed for many.
Not only voice command but also
Bing search doesn't exist on my native language.
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Wow... very stright forward. I hope Microsoft will read your suggestion and build an update as soon as possible
My two cents:
Very detailed, however, have to reply to some of these.
1- Windows Phone 8 Lackings
a) Items that Must be in a Mobile OS which Windows Phone Missing
• Call duration information is not exist in OS (I still can't believe) - I always wondered what this was for. It never mattered to me how long I spoe with someone, I am not paying by the minute. The fact that its not here is a bonus for me.
• There is No Notification center. If you miss it to see. You miss it. - Again, whats the big deal?! It was nice on my android phone, but I really dont miss it. The live tiles take care of all my notification issues.
• Folderizing those bunch list of application list cannot be scrolled faster. And I believe it should have been foldered. - Isn't it?! Just press the letter, and you get a list of the letter, tap it and it takes you there. Very fast in my book!
• Photos doesn’t have custom folders. It supposed to be added for customization and also a security key would be good. - I use skydrive for my photos, and its easy to set up custom folders. Security key should be your phones security password.
• There is no Sound profiles center you need to close vibrating in a long way from settings/sounds. - No, if you set your phones settings once to include vibration, just tap your volume once, the toast notificaiton will pop up, press where it says "vibrate & ring", it will switch to "vibrate". Thats what I do. One volume rock and one tap, I am silent.
• Google apps are missing including YouTube at all. No Google apps is something really to be sad. - Again, prefrence. Don't really use google apps that much, so not missing them.
• Percentage for battery level is not exist natively. - yea, thats one thing I wouldn't mind seeing.
• GPS toggle does not exist so location finding is not working in airplane mod. GPS doesn't work even if you downloaded offline maps and turned wifi on. You need to have cellular signal to make GPS on. So definitely GPS toggle must be build. - Haven't tried using GPS when in airplane mode. NEver switch my phone to Airplane mode.
• Location center should be letting user to choose which application can use which not.. It is just one option to be on n off..
And somehow periodically I see location icon on top even those map and location background are fully limited, and I can't see what application is currently using my location. And this makes me feel phone is going against my privacy. - You shouldb e able to set that when you initially start or download the app, it asks if they can use your location. Otherwise, I don't have any problem with it, got nothing to hide, so you can see where I go anytime!
• When theme color is changed, OS based native tiles is changing color instantly but the Tiles that have been created by applications, doesn't change color unless being run once. And you need to open all those apps to update new theme color. - Yea, I guess, don't really notice that.
• Skype is fully buggy that doesn't let video chat. Neither doesn't work in background fully online. Cannot call online iphone users etc.. It may not be considered as developed application. - Haven't used Skype yet, maybe one day.
• Whatsapp is buggy. Developer said that it’s because of windows platform and porting issues. If you lock screen in whatsapp there won't be any new notification, you need to check it manual. This is so annoying. So after you write you need to leave application. And lock phone to receive notifications. Also It can't send any picture from screen shots. Additional when you return back to application it always needs to be loaded and makes you waited 3 seconds every time which is a huge time that being wasted. -Dont have that app.
• Cannot close applications. Windows Phone OS cannot close any application. You need to hammer back button 15 times to resume beginning. But somehow also it’s not enough in some cases. There are some apps that asks to be exit and needs confirmations. Some apps directly being closed , some apps goes back inside its navigation like IE n Flickr until start page and then being closed. So Windows phone does not have ability to close app in one standard way. - Yea, that could be alot easier to handle.
• In the messaging and, email There is no “Select all option” ... u need to select one by one each mail or message to erase -Again, don't really notice that. I don't let my emails pile up to the point I need to select all to get rid of them. Once I read, they are filed or deleted. No need to leave them there taking up space.
• I don't know outside my country but in computer when I open find my phone service that never works. It doesn't work at all. Even it is turned on settings. Nokia asked me to ask it Microsoft. And Microsoft didn't reply me. I think for some countries location services doesn't work. In Turkey it does not work.-Not using Nokia, so not sure about this one.
• Phone alarm should have been working even phone is turned off. - I don't think this is a possibility with any system, phone, or OS. Once the phone is off, its off. Now, if your turning your phone to sleep, or hibernate, then it should still work. Otherwise, powered off is powered off. Thats like wanting your car off, but as soon as you get in and hit the gas it magically comes to life and starts driving.
• Text writing should have undo with shaking, sometimes when using shortcut words over keyboard if you press wrong word u cannot go back and fix it so need to re write all. Shake left should make undo which is not exist currently.. - Uhmm, I hate having to shake my phone to make it do anything. If I have to shake it, then something is wrong with it. Just my opinion.
• Phone storage does not show you size of application music and pictures. Just there is one cumulative bar which is so useless to show overall instead of separating each kind. - Yea, that would be nice, but I don't miss it.
• Where I spend the battery? U won’t know where. This should be adapted because there are lots of people discussing it in forums that battery levels are normal if not for what reason. And since it is new OS and we all end users are behaved like testers, we need to make, things certain. - Again, knowing what is sucking up your battery is a nice touch, and although I thought it was usefull when I had an android, I don't miss it. My 8X doesnt suck up enough battery power to be a concern.
• Wi-Fi saved passwords or rest of other password doesn't being seen again even there is a thick that says “show password”. There is this option but completely in functional and doesn’t let you to see passwords. - That would be nice!
• 3rd party music or video downloader apps makes its work. But those downloaded music’s are not being able to reach from native music applications. It just stays in the 3rd party applications library and can be reach from it. Native windows music player should have been reach all mp3 which is downloaded.- I am able to watch, listen to, whatever with all my local downloaded music and movies. No need for a 3rd party app.
• Rotation option doesn't exist. It is mandatory to be rotated if u hold it horizontally. And it makes phone so un stable in bed when writing. That is so annoying that phone doesn't has this option. It is mandatory to use it vertical. - This would be a nice touch, but not one I feel is a mandatory missing item. I can live without it.
• When typing text in a text box, there is no standard to how to hide keyboard. Every app works different. You cannot say a certain way to hide keyboard, and scroll to see what has been written. Also scrolling doesn't have a standard way either. Also, Text assisting, words are appearing in some apps, but not appearing in some. It doesn’t have standard too. There should have been one way for everything! - You would have to talk to the app creater, thats not something controled by Windows. And I find no matter what I am doing, hitting the back button once, away goes keyboard. Every app lets me do that.
• Physical search button should be configured to run a search application which can be change into Google yahoo etc.. Also search button same time should have been looking email contents and apps - Yes, local search would be nice, not just web
• Random reboots. I can't believe that happens almost every 3 days once and it has been reported more often, with some series.. - I only rebooted the day I purchased it, otherwise, no issues there!
b) Optional Additions
• There is no Instagram - Dont use it
• Multitasking gestures - Good lord, don't need it! Simple is the way!
• Unable to find enough local apps for turkey, - Sorry
• Dropbox would be nice addition - Again, don't use it
• Lock button and keyboard click sound is bad for me. Should be personalized - Yea, that would be nice
• Even it has graphics card, which game, exist to use it. We almost don't have a nice 3d game, to be impressed with graphics. - Uhmm, don't know about this one
• There is no live tile that shows clock, and date same as HTC does. Also it would be good if native clock app live tile enhanced including selected city times rotating in tile. - Thats why I like HTC!
• Since start menu is customizable with a theme color , all applications must have been force a icon color weather is native or theme color and user should pick it up how to be. - Again, talk to the app creator, not windows.
• Screen brightness is just tree Level doesn't let to make a fine setting. And long way to reach from settings,menu. - Yea, thats true!
• People hub tile should be have an option to show people profile pics or not. Sometimes in formal situations, on the phone stupid profile pics makes me shame.. Also favorite persons should,be included. I don't,want to see some,of ppl there,and I don't,get in,what logic ppl hub selects those ppl - Unfortunatly, all my pics are decent and safe for work
• There is Turkish language support,
There is Turkish keyboard
There is Turkish keyboard assistant
But there, is no voice command for, Turkish language. Downloadable content for languages is just a few. This technology is not completed for many.
Not only voice command but also
Bing search doesn't exist on my native language.
So thats my two cents!
If the keyboard is displayed simply press the back Button and it will be hidden. Works in any App.
As for the Live Tiles changing Color automatically with changes of the theme color. It is possible to be done with transparent Images but due to the problematic nature of saving those dynamically in WP7 most Devs render an Image with the current Background Color and Display that on the tile. If you want that bevhavior to change contact the developer.
The Alarm doesn't work when the device is turned off on Android or iOS as well. Symbian was the only notable exception of a Smartphone OS that did Support it. As for a wrong auto-completed word: simply tap the word and select your original Input or another Suggestion. Works for me without Problems.
If you enter Settings and look at phone Memory and then tap onto the bar that Displays how much free space you currently have it opens up a detailed view on what is taking how much Memory. At least it does on my Lumia 920.
As for the Button "Show Wifi Password" - it works similarily to the Show Password Buttons in Windows 8. They exist to allow you to have a look at the Password that you just entered/are just entering to check it for typing errors. It does work then. After you saved the Password you won't be able to retrieve it in this way for security reasons. The Buttons are not broken but work as designed.
I won't answer all the other Points. I agree with some but disagree with others but I wanted to provide some help and some context on what can be done and why some things behave the way they do.
jerrya said:
a) Items that Must be in a Mobile OS which Windows Phone Missing
• Call duration information is not exist in OS (I still can't believe) - I always wondered what this was for. It never mattered to me how long I spoe with someone, I am not paying by the minute. The fact that its not here is a bonus for me.
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I would like to have this option. Sometimes when I'm on a business call I need to know how long I was on the call for. You can say to use a timer or check the time before and after the call but that's extra work that the phone should be able to handle. There's enough other things to juggle during a busy day! Right now I just have to go online and check my account after 24 hours to record my time.
jerrya said:
• Photos doesn’t have custom folders. It supposed to be added for customization and also a security key would be good. - I use skydrive for my photos, and its easy to set up custom folders. Security key should be your phones security password.
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Great idea, but it would be nice to create folders on the phone instead of finding someplace else - computer, web browser, etc. All photo folder customization needs to be done outside of the app. It would be nice to set a default folder when taking pictures or saving pictures. Everything just goes into Saved Pictures or Camera Roll and then has to be organized later.
jerrya said:
• There is no Sound profiles center you need to close vibrating in a long way from settings/sounds. - No, if you set your phones settings once to include vibration, just tap your volume once, the toast notificaiton will pop up, press where it says "vibrate & ring", it will switch to "vibrate". Thats what I do. One volume rock and one tap, I am silent.
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His point here is turning off vibrate, not turning off sound. Most of the time I like having vibrate on but during a meeting, not only do I want the phone silent, but I also want vibrate off. No way to do this unless you manually go into settings.
jerrya said:
• Location center should be letting user to choose which application can use which not.. It is just one option to be on n off..
And somehow periodically I see location icon on top even those map and location background are fully limited, and I can't see what application is currently using my location. And this makes me feel phone is going against my privacy. - You shouldb e able to set that when you initially start or download the app, it asks if they can use your location. Otherwise, I don't have any problem with it, got nothing to hide, so you can see where I go anytime!
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Yes, the first time you use an app it asked you about location. How do you turn off (or on?) that permission after the fact, or see what applications you gave location permissions to? You have to uninstall and reinstall the app to cycle the location permission. Furthermore, reinstalling the app typically loses any data you have. This isn't quite the experience that you should expect. Windows 8 allows you to toggle permissions of Metro apps from the charms bar. No such ability exists in WP8.
jerrya said:
• Text writing should have undo with shaking, sometimes when using shortcut words over keyboard if you press wrong word u cannot go back and fix it so need to re write all. Shake left should make undo which is not exist currently.. - Uhmm, I hate having to shake my phone to make it do anything. If I have to shake it, then something is wrong with it. Just my opinion.
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I agree on the shaking thing, but it would be nice to have some sort of undo. Occassionally I accidentally hit the wrong word or highlight a word (or sentence) and hit a letter instead of the copy. Suddenly, everything I typed is gone! Even a single-level undo would be nice in cases like this.
jerrya said:
• 3rd party music or video downloader apps makes its work. But those downloaded music’s are not being able to reach from native music applications. It just stays in the 3rd party applications library and can be reach from it. Native windows music player should have been reach all mp3 which is downloaded.- I am able to watch, listen to, whatever with all my local downloaded music and movies. No need for a 3rd party app.
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Nokia Music is allowed to store items in the WP8 music store, but other 3rd party apps aren't. This is an inconsistency that really needs to be fixed. While you may not use 3rd party apps, there are a lot of nice ones out there and having to figure out workarounds to move the music around is a bit annoying. Personally I haven't had a need to worry about it but locking up the music storage is limiting our choices on what we can do with our own music files.
jerrya said:
• Rotation option doesn't exist. It is mandatory to be rotated if u hold it horizontally. And it makes phone so un stable in bed when writing. That is so annoying that phone doesn't has this option. It is mandatory to use it vertical. - This would be a nice touch, but not one I feel is a mandatory missing item. I can live without it.
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(laugh) I have to agree on needing this one! I frequently try to use my phone lying on my side and it's so obnoxious with the rotation. Would definitely be a nice option!
jerrya said:
• Random reboots. I can't believe that happens almost every 3 days once and it has been reported more often, with some series.. - I only rebooted the day I purchased it, otherwise, no issues there!
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I see rebooting within 3rd party apps more often now that developers aren't required to use managed code. This is one of the drawbacks of native code. I think the OS should be more capable of protecting against that though. An app really shouldn't kill the OS so easily just because the app is buggy.
On that same note, sometimes when a app crashes you can't open it again unless you restart the OS. This leads me to believe that something is still retained in OS memory. WP8 is essentially like a 1.0 version of the OS though, so there are sure to be issues like this initially. Even though the kernel is the NT kernel, it's new for ARM processors, so it's still a brand new branch of the kernel.
jerrya said:
• People hub tile should be have an option to show people profile pics or not. Sometimes in formal situations, on the phone stupid profile pics makes me shame.. Also favorite persons should,be included. I don't,want to see some,of ppl there,and I don't,get in,what logic ppl hub selects those ppl - Unfortunatly, all my pics are decent and safe for work
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He's talking about the people hub, not the photo hub. If you have your phone connected to Facebook or LinkedIn, the People hub automatically pulls the profile pictures for your contacts. You can argue that you only have contacts on your phone for people that will always have decent, acceptable profile pictures, but can you be 100% sure that will happen? Your choices right now are all or none. You can manually set a profile picture for every contact but that kind of defeats the neatness of the People hub cycling people. It would be nice if you could create a "Favorite People" group of people that you want the hub to show, as well as an "Excluded" group of people that include your pain in the neck brother that's always posting weird profile pics! Similar to the "Favorite Pics" in the photo hub.
Many of these items are similar choice things that would make the overall system better. While I don't agree with having the boatload of customization that Android has (way too messy), I think some simple additions would be nice.
On the subject of lock codes... I understand that some people would want additional security for photos or messages and things like that, but I think having separate codes for all of that is too much. If you need to be that secret, just lock your phone and don't let anyone use it!
I like the idea of the kid's corner and would like MS to expand on that to allow you to create a sandbox that would allow someone to use your phone, play games, make phone calls, without having your security code. Right now, if you have a security code, the kid's corner also has the same security code. Kids are smart! If you're unlocking your phone in front of them, they WILL notice your code eventually. Even the Android "move your finger around" security is a joke. It's fairly easy to watch someone (with the phone turned away from you) and pretty much tell by movement of their hand.
We've all learned workarounds for some of the items on this list and can say that we don't really care, but the truth is, if we have to constantly come up with workarounds, then the OS is missing something. Call Duration, Better Live Tile customization (such as the People Hub idea), better/easier sound/ring customization, etc.
Also, on the Live tiles. I think the medium tile is too big and the small tile isn't big enough for any detail. Coming from WP7, I'm so glad we don't have to have all "medium tiles" now, especially with a large (4.3+) screen. I just don't know how best to deal with this without making it too complicated.
bozzaj said:
I would like to have this option. Sometimes when I'm on a business call I need to know how long I was on the call for. You can say to use a timer or check the time before and after the call but that's extra work that the phone should be able to handle. There's enough other things to juggle during a busy day! Right now I just have to go online and check my account after 24 hours to record my time.
ACtually, I found that it does time the call, when I just hung up with my wife, it showed call duration just above her name, so I would say it does it. that being said, it doesn't 'record' it for later retrieval, so I see the point your making.
His point here is turning off vibrate, not turning off sound. Most of the time I like having vibrate on but during a meeting, not only do I want the phone silent, but I also want vibrate off. No way to do this unless you manually go into settings.
Gotcha, but if you don't use sound, strictly vibrate, then instead of turning on sound and vibrate in the settings once, you would only turn on vibrate. Then, you could either silence or vibrate when you select the toast. Of course, if you want sound and vibrate, yes, you would have to go into settings.
Yes, the first time you use an app it asked you about location. How do you turn off (or on?) that permission after the fact, or see what applications you gave location permissions to? You have to uninstall and reinstall the app to cycle the location permission. Furthermore, reinstalling the app typically loses any data you have. This isn't quite the experience that you should expect. Windows 8 allows you to toggle permissions of Metro apps from the charms bar. No such ability exists in WP8.
I am not sure about that. I just checked 3 apps and could turn off location services. So maybe its app based on wether you can or cannot undo location services.
I agree on the shaking thing, but it would be nice to have some sort of undo. Occassionally I accidentally hit the wrong word or highlight a word (or sentence) and hit a letter instead of the copy. Suddenly, everything I typed is gone! Even a single-level undo would be nice in cases like this.
I guess I am lucky, haven't seen the need for that.
Many of these items are similar choice things that would make the overall system better. While I don't agree with having the boatload of customization that Android has (way too messy), I think some simple additions would be nice.
On the subject of lock codes... I understand that some people would want additional security for photos or messages and things like that, but I think having separate codes for all of that is too much. If you need to be that secret, just lock your phone and don't let anyone use it!
I like the idea of the kid's corner and would like MS to expand on that to allow you to create a sandbox that would allow someone to use your phone, play games, make phone calls, without having your security code. Right now, if you have a security code, the kid's corner also has the same security code. Kids are smart! If you're unlocking your phone in front of them, they WILL notice your code eventually. Even the Android "move your finger around" security is a joke. It's fairly easy to watch someone (with the phone turned away from you) and pretty much tell by movement of their hand.
I agree, I remember my daughter on her kindle was surprised I could access it. She was surprised how easy it was to monitor her swipe to get an idea of her access. What I don't like about kids corner is the turn off to access your stuff. Should have the same ability to swipe back to the lock screen
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See my responses in bold.
But I do have to say coming from a flashaholic Thunderbolt, the fact that I 'can't do as much' is a breath of fresh air. It is just nice having a simple, easy uncluttered OS to deal with. I had a friend running an TB unrooted, and he went with an S3 about the same time I went to WP8, and watching him use his, I really cringe looking at his screen. I look at mine and think - Ah, simpleton, thats me! And I am happy! Its all right here, no need to open this or click that to get to there. Just turn on, unlock, and blip, there it is.
You are correct that in a sense, this is WP8 V1, and I am sure as it gets more and more active, we will begin to see some of those simple things come into play.
My only real gripe, how difficult it is to make a playlist. But at least what I do have sounds fantastic!
My name is Jerry, and this is my Windows phone!
jerrya said:
See my responses in bold.
But I do have to say coming from a flashaholic Thunderbolt, the fact that I 'can't do as much' is a breath of fresh air. It is just nice having a simple, easy uncluttered OS to deal with. I had a friend running an TB unrooted, and he went with an S3 about the same time I went to WP8, and watching him use his, I really cringe looking at his screen. I look at mine and think - Ah, simpleton, thats me! And I am happy! Its all right here, no need to open this or click that to get to there. Just turn on, unlock, and blip, there it is.
You are correct that in a sense, this is WP8 V1, and I am sure as it gets more and more active, we will begin to see some of those simple things come into play.
My only real gripe, how difficult it is to make a playlist. But at least what I do have sounds fantastic!
My name is Jerry, and this is my Windows phone!
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Just a few more comments... I think the location service you can't change are the ones that use it only for ads. I've checked a few and don't see anywhere to toggle it. I don't mind ads but I'm not a big fan of targeted ads. Much like ad cookies, it's just really a personal preference.
Thanks for the tip on the call duration.
I agree with you as well! Having a phone that just *works* and is simple to use has been great! I wouldn't trade it for any OS right now. I look forward to next week and MWC to see what the next updates/phones might be!
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1- Windows Phone 8 Lackings
a) Items that Must be in a Mobile OS which Windows Phone Missing
• Call duration information is not exist in OS (I still can't believe)
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Yeah, would love that too!
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• There is No Notification center. If you miss it to see. You miss it.
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They say it's coming. We'll see
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• Folderizing those bunch list of application list cannot be scrolled faster. And I believe it should have been foldered.
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Press the alphabet. Addressed by jerrya
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• Photos doesn’t have custom folders. It supposed to be added for customization and also a security key would be good.
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I think the current way is good. Addressed by jerrya
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• There is no Sound profiles center you need to close vibrating in a long way from settings/sounds.
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Yeah. Definitely a shortcoming.
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• Google apps are missing including YouTube at all. No Google apps is something really to be sad.
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Whose fault is that?
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• Percentage for battery level is not exist natively.
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Uhm, yes it does?
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
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• GPS toggle does not exist so location finding is not working in airplane mod. GPS doesn't work even if you downloaded offline maps and turned wifi on. You need to have cellular signal to make GPS on. So definitely GPS toggle must be build.
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Uhm, again, GPS works in airplane mode.
m_carleone82 said:
• Location center should be letting user to choose which application can use which not.. It is just one option to be on n off..
And somehow periodically I see location icon on top even those map and location background are fully limited, and I can't see what application is currently using my location. And this makes me feel phone is going against my privacy.
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Whenever you launch an app, the app will require permission for location use. It's one of the requirement for submission into the marketplace I believe.
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• When theme color is changed, OS based native tiles is changing color instantly but the Tiles that have been created by applications, doesn't change color unless being run once. And you need to open all those apps to update new theme color.
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Uhm, its due to the way the API is implemented. And why would you want apps running in the background just to update the accent colour?
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• Skype is fully buggy that doesn't let video chat. Neither doesn't work in background fully online. Cannot call online iphone users etc.. It may not be considered as developed application.
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It works for me.
m_carleone82 said:
• Whatsapp is buggy. Developer said that it’s because of windows platform and porting issues. If you lock screen in whatsapp there won't be any new notification, you need to check it manual. This is so annoying. So after you write you need to leave application. And lock phone to receive notifications. Also It can't send any picture from screen shots. Additional when you return back to application it always needs to be loaded and makes you waited 3 seconds every time which is a huge time that being wasted.
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Whatsapp background notification works for me, with my phone locked or not. And the devs are lazy. I heard they are working for a optimised WP8 version with Nokia.
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• Cannot close applications. Windows Phone OS cannot close any application. You need to hammer back button 15 times to resume beginning. But somehow also it’s not enough in some cases. There are some apps that asks to be exit and needs confirmations. Some apps directly being closed , some apps goes back inside its navigation like IE n Flickr until start page and then being closed. So Windows phone does not have ability to close app in one standard way.
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Double tap back to close, I believe.
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• In the messaging and, email There is no “Select all option” ... u need to select one by one each mail or message to erase
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3 dots -> delete thread.
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• I don't know outside my country but in computer when I open find my phone service that never works. It doesn't work at all. Even it is turned on settings. Nokia asked me to ask it Microsoft. And Microsoft didn't reply me. I think for some countries location services doesn't work. In Turkey it does not work.
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@winphonesupport <-- Tweet them.
m_carleone82 said:
• Phone alarm should have been working even phone is turned off.
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Not really possible with current gen smartphones.
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• Text writing should have undo with shaking, sometimes when using shortcut words over keyboard if you press wrong word u cannot go back and fix it so need to re write all. Shake left should make undo which is not exist currently..
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No thanks. Also, to correct words, just press on them.
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• Phone storage does not show you size of application music and pictures. Just there is one cumulative bar which is so useless to show overall instead of separating each kind.
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Again, it does.
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• Where I spend the battery? U won’t know where. This should be adapted because there are lots of people discussing it in forums that battery levels are normal if not for what reason. And since it is new OS and we all end users are behaved like testers, we need to make, things certain.
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Yeah, would love that also.
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• Wi-Fi saved passwords or rest of other password doesn't being seen again even there is a thick that says “show password”. There is this option but completely in functional and doesn’t let you to see passwords.
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Security. Show password only shows password you typed that instant, not stored ones.
m_carleone82 said:
• 3rd party music or video downloader apps makes its work. But those downloaded music’s are not being able to reach from native music applications. It just stays in the 3rd party applications library and can be reach from it. Native windows music player should have been reach all mp3 which is downloaded.
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Eh?
m_carleone82 said:
• Rotation option doesn't exist. It is mandatory to be rotated if u hold it horizontally. And it makes phone so un stable in bed when writing. That is so annoying that phone doesn't has this option. It is mandatory to use it vertical.
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Yeah, should be implemented.
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• When typing text in a text box, there is no standard to how to hide keyboard. Every app works different. You cannot say a certain way to hide keyboard, and scroll to see what has been written. Also scrolling doesn't have a standard way either. Also, Text assisting, words are appearing in some apps, but not appearing in some. It doesn’t have standard too. There should have been one way for everything!
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Damn right. However, these settings are configured on an application level. For example, while typing an URL, autocorrect would be useless.
m_carleone82 said:
• Physical search button should be configured to run a search application which can be change into Google yahoo etc.. Also search button same time should have been looking email contents and apps
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Uh huh. You do realise this is a MSFT product? It's like asking Android to provide bing search. Phone search would be nice though.
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• Random reboots. I can't believe that happens almost every 3 days once and it has been reported more often, with some series..
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Never happened to me before.
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b) Optional Additions
• There is no Instagram
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Again, whose fault is that?
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• Multitasking gestures
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Would be nice
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• Unable to find enough local apps for turkey,
• Dropbox would be nice addition
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Whose fault is that? . . .
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• Lock button and keyboard click sound is bad for me. Should be personalized
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Turn it off?
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• Even it has graphics card, which game, exist to use it. We almost don't have a nice 3d game, to be impressed with graphics.
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Whose fault is that?
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• There is no live tile that shows clock, and date same as HTC does. Also it would be good if native clock app live tile enhanced including selected city times rotating in tile.
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Get a HTC phone if you really want that. Or enjoy your Nokia exclusives. Damn, I really want them.
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• Since start menu is customizable with a theme color , all applications must have been force a icon color weather is native or theme color and user should pick it up how to be.
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Ask developers to implement that. API available.
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• Screen brightness is just tree Level doesn't let to make a fine setting. And long way to reach from settings,menu.
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More fine tuning would be good. And hard to reach? Seriously. . .
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• People hub tile should be have an option to show people profile pics or not. Sometimes in formal situations, on the phone stupid profile pics makes me shame.. Also favorite persons should,be included. I don't,want to see some,of ppl there,and I don't,get in,what logic ppl hub selects those ppl
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Ok... You can remove profile pics.
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• There is Turkish language support,
There is Turkish keyboard
There is Turkish keyboard assistant
But there, is no voice command for, Turkish language. Downloadable content for languages is just a few. This technology is not completed for many.
Not only voice command but also
Bing search doesn't exist on my native language.
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Bug MSFT I guess
Windows Phone 8 was blessed as a Business OS. But thats not true!
There are missing still some important features like:
- Better calender view (weekly view)
- VPN
- signing e-mails ( S/MIME)
-encypt and decrypt mails
We are currentyl using WP7/WP8 (Lumia 900/Lumia 820) and Blackberry Devices in our Company. Since signing E-Mail is a must have in our Company we are not able to read our mail or attachemnts on our WP Devices.
With every other devices like Android, Iphone and Blackkberry is this possible but not with a Windows Phone 7/8. 2 year before i had talked to MS about this problem (good relationship in Austria) but there is still no solution for this.
I´m so sorry for this but we have now to Switch back to Blackberrys and Android Phones... :crying:
We are now waiting for the new BB Generation. In the next weeks i will upgrade our BES to BES 10
Hopefully MS will release this functionalities with the next update...
Privately i will stay with Windows Phone...
its missing an Office Suite with any functionality at all
How is Microsoft not going to have an Office suite, when both Android & iPhone have Office suites which rival the Full Office suite, both creating & editing MICROSOFT PPT, PPTX, DOC, DOCX, XLS, & XLSX, with more functions than you can imagine ...
microcrap includes a blank office page with 2 retarded options and no other functionality at all
can someone please shoot those people so they can rehire smarter employees?
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i need separate volume for ringtone / media / etc . (like android)
Things that WP 8 needs from my point of view as a user (seperate from IT policies that can be implimented). I have a Nokia 810 btw...
1. Alphanumeric password support. That 4 digit pin crap has GOT TO GO.
2. Full device encryption ahh the good old days of WM 6.5.X
3. Device search
4. A DEDICATED PHONEBOOK. I do not want all of my facebook, skype, etc contacts listed in with my phone book. That just plain sucks. To avoid this I use the seperate FB and Skype and TANGO (when available) apps.
5. ability to choose background colors other than black or white in addition to more foreground color choices
6. Can we please crank up the volume of the handset? how I miss my HD2 and it's annoyingly loud alarm clock...
7. Task Manager anyone? Pressing back all the time is kind of stupid...
Lilttle things I would like Nokia to include:
1. Compass
2. Flashlight
3. Ability to connect to my phone at Wireless N speeds with my PC (G? really? in 2K13? come on now...LTE will be able to completely saturate that interface)
1. VPN
2. Task Manager
3. App to SD (For any device SDCard Support)
4. Read first post...
Sent from my Windows Phone 8S by HTC using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
I was going to buy a Wp8 Device but i just read this thread and i say to my self. what the hell is going on .
anhyeuemmaimai said:
Things that WP 8 needs from my point of view as a user (seperate from IT policies that can be implimented). I have a Nokia 810 btw...
1. Alphanumeric password support. That 4 digit pin crap has GOT TO GO.
2. Full device encryption ahh the good old days of WM 6.5.X
3. Device search
4. A DEDICATED PHONEBOOK. I do not want all of my facebook, skype, etc contacts listed in with my phone book. That just plain sucks. To avoid this I use the seperate FB and Skype and TANGO (when available) apps.
5. ability to choose background colors other than black or white in addition to more foreground color choices
6. Can we please crank up the volume of the handset? how I miss my HD2 and it's annoyingly loud alarm clock...
7. Task Manager anyone? Pressing back all the time is kind of stupid...
Lilttle things I would like Nokia to include:
1. Compass
2. Flashlight
3. Ability to connect to my phone at Wireless N speeds with my PC (G? really? in 2K13? come on now...LTE will be able to completely saturate that interface)
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Aside from colors and task manager(which is not needed anyway), you need a heavy dose of "learn to use a windows phone" my friend.
In fact, over half of the things "missing" are present and accounted for, you just need to look closer.
So, instead of QQing, how about you look in the phone settings, or...you know...USE the marketplace?
app2sd
some customization options
more popular apps (for services like catch notes, which i missing so much on wp8)/or more indie games from iphone/android devs ;/
normal SKYPE.. oh microsoft
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4. A DEDICATED PHONEBOOK. I do not want all of my facebook, skype, etc contacts listed in with my phone book. That just plain sucks. To avoid this I use the seperate FB and Skype and TANGO (when available) apps.
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Doesn't this work on your phone?
Settings, Applications, people, filter my contact list
And then uncheck everything except your primary contact list?
I find the biggest issue for me as a windows phone user [from the HD7 to the 810] is the still remarkably poor offerings. So apps aren't even present like Hulu, some are covered by third party providers [youtube - metrotube] and there is a good selection of games. The app market is the single biggest handy cap that the OS has atm and that's needs to be fixed.
Apps I use;
Battery Meter Pro [Provides a live tile with icon and % of battery]
Metrotube [an actual youtube client not a browser shortcut]
Amazing Weather HD [provides a live tile with updated weather]
Facebook for WP8 [more common android looking facebook app]
MediaFire Manager [file storage]
Skydrive [MS provided - there are dropbox apps too I just don't use it]
PinInterest [an actual client for viewing PinInterest]
PAypal
Ebay
Skype [VoIP]
Snes8x [The only emulator atm]
tumblr.viewer [an actual client to view your tumblr account - no downloads though]
Weave News Reader [like androids pulse news reader]
WiFi Live Tile [provides a live tile with information on wifi strength and goes straight to settings]
Tankopedia [World of Tanks information - wiki as a client]
World of Tanks Assistant
WoW Companion [MoP Compatiable WoW Armory app]
Touchmouse [makes the phone a mouse for computers]
Flashlight [Pro version, gives a live tile to quickly turn the flash on]
Crackle [like hulu, not so much selection though]
BBC News
Cellular Live Tiles [gives signal strength, Data info and goes directly to settings when clicked]
Netflix
The three apps I am missing atm is Hulu, a stand alone movie player and Teamspeak.
Battery lasts most of my days use, with an occasional charging here and there. The rest of the settings are easy enough to get too, the letter management in the app list makes it very quick to get to apps you want [just got to get used to it] and very seldom see a reboot [about as often as my Samsung S3 does actually.