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I´ve been following with interest the porting of touchflo interface to non-Elf (Touch) devices.
There have been lots of requests for developing a cab with files n settings for such an interface. It has been suceesfully ported to custom ROMs for Artemis, wizard...., but developers say that there is no way to build just a cab.
not being a developer, i would like to know the rationale behind "cab is no possible", as i can not undestand why, if touch flow can be ccoked to a ROM, it can not be made into a cab. Surely there is an explanation.
(i ask this question because i´d rather keep the stock ROM until warranty period is over, but i want to use my device (Artemis) as much as possible without reverting to stylus)
The Problem is that the Touch.dll must be replaced with the one from HTC Touch... this is not possible.
Only before cooking the Rom you are able to replace System DLLs
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hope this helps
So the solution would be to make an installation rotine that unloads touch dll from memory, ,overwrites it with the replacement "flo" one, and then reload touch dll.
is that a workable solution under MsMobile platform?
Sorry if i´m proposing a nonsense, as i´m no programmer at all (just "hello world" stuff)
I'm not one of the ROM cookers here but I think the system dlls that need replacing cannot be deleted because they are in ROM and therefore, the device needs to be flashed to change behaviour.
damac said:
I'm not one of the ROM cookers here but I think the system dlls that need replacing cannot be deleted because they are in ROM and therefore, the device needs to be flashed to change behaviour.
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or just the cab being reinstalled after every hard reset?
The touch.dll is different from device to device... so u'll have to have a "touch" dll that fits your device. Another reason is that the dll can not be changed after flashing the rom, has it is protected by the OS (not even using Total Commander...).
I try to overwrite Touch.dll via some program to replace the original Touch.dll.
After replace it, Touch-screen is no respond to any touch on the screen but Hardware button still working ,then I restore my device.
In my idea, I think Touch.dll is device specific and this file take control all of touch-screen. So Touch.dll cannot be replace by conventional method.
We have to rewrite Touch-Flo program to hook on another dll, e.g. Touch-Flo.dll. (This is just my theory) But I don't know "How to do it ?".
Does anyone have idea about it ?
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The touch.dll is different from device to device... so u'll have to have a "touch" dll that fits your device.
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Well, until Tytn II(Kaiser) is released, the only touch-flo enabled phone that can be bought off the shelf is HTC Touch.
So all cooked ROMs for Artemis, Wizard.....that include touchflo, must include touchflo dlls extracted from HTC Touch ROM.
Then, my understanding is that, as these touch-flo ROM do actually run on devices other than HTC Touch, the dll´s needed must be not so "device specific" but (more or less) generic for QVGA devices without graphics processor (or at least for OMAP 200 devices).
maybe its not only touch dll, but also other files which have to be replaced by files from HTC Touch.
Has any body managed to extract the touchflo files from HTC touch or TytnII??? If yes then kindly post them here. Maybe we can try to put it in other models like Hima..
c_shekhar said:
Has any body managed to extract the touchflo files from HTC touch or TytnII??? If yes then kindly post them here. Maybe we can try to put it in other models like Hima..
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There a number of ROMs that include TouchFlo in Prophet, Artemis n Wizard xda-dev forums.
i dont know how to extract specific files from a ROM file, nor which files are flo-related files, and have to be extracted.
Surely the cookers of those ROMs can advise and even provide the Flo files.
sirgawain123 said:
There a number of ROMs that include TouchFlo in Prophet, Artemis n Wizard xda-dev forums.
i dont know how to extract specific files from a ROM file, nor which files are flo-related files, and have to be extracted.
Surely the cookers of those ROMs can advise and even provide the Flo files.
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look in the wizard WM6 forum, there are several kitchen roms and links to OEM packs with all the touch stuf thats needed.
I agree ,
i dont understand why is not possible to make one application just to touchflo,
let´s take some examples:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321242
this stops, but i test and works, only whid some bugs, and is not reali a touchflo
http://www.pocketcm.com/index.php
this one makes touchflo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325223&highlight=iphone+media+player
this one is touchflo application
icontacts is a touchflo application
so...i dont understand why is not possible to make a touchflo cab
i have all this aplications in a s200 wm5!
Marcos200 said:
i dont understand why is not possible to make one application just to touchflo,
let´s take some examples:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321242
this stops, but i test and works, only whid some bugs, and is not reali a touchflo
http://www.pocketcm.com/index.php
this one makes touchflo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325223&highlight=iphone+media+player
this one is touchflo application
icontacts is a touchflo application
so...i dont understand why is not possible to make a touchflo cab
i have all this aplications in a s200 wm5!
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touchflo requires Touch.dll, and Touch.dll is not an application. Itz part of the OS which is device dependent. Unless someone writes a fully working touchflo cube, managed to remove the current touch.dll with his own dll, then it is portable from device to device.
c_shekhar said:
Has any body managed to extract the touchflo files from HTC touch or TytnII??? If yes then kindly post them here. Maybe we can try to put it in other models like Hima..
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Hi C_shekhar
Is this can help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321844
The_hesham said:
Hi C_shekhar
Is this can help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321844
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funny thread in the sense some pple is asking the same again and again.
I would summarize state of art as follows:
-Some ROMs with Touch flo have been developed by forum members for devices other than HTC Touch.
-Touch flo files are available for those who want to cook their own ROM, at least for OMAP devices.
- As today,Touch flo files can not be installed in a device over an existing ROM because installation can not overwrite certain files as they are in use by the system.
Workaround (Yet To be made)would be an installation routine that unloads files to be replaced, and loads touchflo ones. This routine should be performed after every reset, as resets reloads the files from original ROM.
Here are a bunch of cabs to give you the look of the Touch but these won't give you the finger scroll feature.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311225
I personnally don't care for the eye candy on my wizard, but like the touch driver that lets me finger scroll. The OEM packs I've seen bundle this driver with the today plug-in, but there's just a few files specific to the touch driver that can be separated out from the today plug-in.
jorge_culv said:
Here are a bunch of cabs to give you the look of the Touch but these won't give you the finger scroll feature.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311225
I personnally don't care for the eye candy on my wizard, but like the touch driver that lets me finger scroll. The OEM packs I've seen bundle this driver with the today plug-in, but there's just a few files specific to the touch driver that can be separated out from the today plug-in.
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to get fingerscrolling you'll only need the touch.dll not othere file or regestry setting but somehow it doesn't seem to work for all devices. I don't know why... if it just can't work or no one figured it out yet?
The_hesham said:
Hi C_shekhar
Is this can help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321844
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No it does not help.....
Is there any Hermes ROM cooked with TocuhFlo?
Gullum , i need help, please.
Gullum,
thnks for the very profecional good work, in all app, roms, foruns, etc.
one question,
i dont need flash my prophet (S200 pt), but i use all the finger friendly applications that we have in xda.
i looveeee the finger scroll applications.
but i have now 1.5 years waranty, and i dont need flash.
just the scrolling feature, the touch.dll, like you say, but i dont now how i need to just install that in my wm5 rom in portuguese.
is there a solution?? a cab, or just put oem files and replace the ones that i have. i use the touchnav application, but i need more, also use the very best iContact v3, but i need finguer scroll in all applications, like the touch
Thanks in advance,
HTC X-Button (Task Manager) 2.0 (build 31261)
I been searching for a while looking for the cab. I finally found it and wanted to share it. Maybe you can add it to the OEM cab's thread and remove this one.
Enjoy.
-deck
kushdeck said:
HTC X-Button (Task Manager) 2.0 (build 31261)
I been searching for a while looking for the cab. I finally found it and wanted to share it. Maybe you can add it to the OEM cab's thread and remove this one.
Enjoy.
-deck
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Anth
This version of 2.x doesn't work on non-htc devices as well, you got any other version of it?
how is it different than 1.x?
Well the reason i posted this cab, it is the only version that i could find that worked correctly with WM6.1 rom. The others would cause and error and cause the device to reboot.
-deck
I have 6.1 htc mogul 6800, installing now. glad to hear it works for 6.1 and mogul
kushdeck said:
Well the reason i posted this cab, it is the only version that i could find that worked correctly with WM6.1 rom. The others would cause and error and cause the device to reboot.
-deck
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Would you mind tell us what kind of phone do you have? I cannot make it work on my Wizard after installing 6.1. Many different ROMs have been tried but all have the same problem.
Thanks.
I success installed on P3300. WM6.1 ROM by meschle.
How to remove the original WM6.1 Task Manager ? I don't know it will conflict or not.
HTC Task Manger 2.0 build 31261
I installed it on my hermes wm 6.1. The task manager seems to be working but there's no X button. I tried in options, reinstalling many times but nothing. Would anyone know if there's registry entry that could be responsible for that? Thanks
I used it in the past on a tmobile wing (htc herald) and the problem is it does not differentiate ok and close at all. If I tried to make a new appointment in my calendar and hit ok it would close the calendar program and didn't save anything.
I did success install but I think use another company is better support and bugfix and cute and low memory usage.
Such as BatteryStatus Extended version have built in these function. or SPB Pocket Plus.
I am newbie too. No time to learn PPC. If i have another choice I will told here.
Works on the Duttys 6.1 - 5.2.19716 just fine. Needs a soft reset after install; and the installer complains that it might not work right; but seems to be working okay on my end.
X Buttons and all.
I definately prefer BatteryStatus Extended version for closing apps on my Hermes!
X-button file reloaded
This X-button cab works on the Mogul with 6.1. Not sure why it was labelled Taskmanager 2.
thanks . . . . downloaded
thanks, both downloaded
Any other users install this on WM6.5 Titanium? It works, but only from the Home screen, and it is in the same spot as the clock in the title bar area. It is actually overlaid on top of the clock and looks bad.
This makes the app pretty useless if it can't be used from the title bar from anywhere other than the Titanium home.
FYI this is on a xv6800 (titan).
Thanks
Works well on my HX4700 iPAQ
Hi everyone, i am opal user....
i am facing some strange problems in wm 6.5 rom made in earvius visual kitchen.......and since there are not great chef's in opal forum i need help from you guys to solve the current bugs......
here are the bugs......
After flashing the wm 6.5 rom when device reset
1) today settings not working
2) volume up down keys not responding
3) comm manager not working
4) internet sharing not working
these all bugs only happen with 6.5 rom not with 6.1......
here i am attaching the build log from my kitchen......
any help would be appreciated.........
nothing looks weird in your build log...
just change the name of your main folder kitchen its too long and dont put spaces betwen words... I use XDA word
Be sure that your commanager works in the 6.5
is 6.5 or 6.5.X wich version?
there are many commanager cabs or ext or oem pkgs to try
cooking M2D Mega is not good for old devices ... hope you can get your answers... and aboout your butons.. maybe you need to add the volume control pkg or try to search for the App buttons registry config and add it.
+ Que PPC said:
nothing looks weird in your build log...
just change the name of your main folder kitchen its too long and dont put spaces betwen words... I use XDA word
Be sure that your commanager works in the 6.5
is 6.5 or 6.5.X wich version?
there are many commanager cabs or ext or oem pkgs to try
cooking M2D Mega is not good for old devices ... hope you can get your answers... and aboout your butons.. maybe you need to add the volume control pkg or try to search for the App buttons registry config and add it.
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Thanks for quick reply...........
I am having everything working fine...but when i use ppc pim backup to restore my contact and messages....the next time i reset my device,then all these bugs appear......
i'm using comm manager for 6.5 compatible.....and for your information ..these all ext packages working fine with htc gene.....
It's not related with m2d mega....even if i build the rom without m2d it stills got bugs.......
same with the volume bug.i have already included volume control packages
i have all tried up.....recmodding my modules...to free up slot 0......
been flashing 100 times to solve my probem with different combination in ext packages....
if you are interested then i will upload my kitchen....just to look for...
I am having everything working fine...but when i use ppc pim backup to restore my contact and messages....the next time i reset my device,then all these bugs appear......
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Pim backup performs a backup of many regs... and ofcourse the structure of some things like sms... so... if your backup files was did in older builds... that backup is making problem due to the incompatibility.
+ Que PPC said:
Pim backup performs a backup of many regs... and ofcourse the structure of some things like sms... so... if your backup files was did in older builds... that backup is making problem due to the incompatibility.
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my back up files are not from older builds...these are from 21864 build.......
these opal bugs are not directly related to pim backup,some times it occur without pim backup.....but the strange thing is when i install sdkcerts.cab ......and do reset...the bugs disappear temporary......
the funny thing is why you add sdkcerts??? if the kitchen do that for us automatically...
nice avatar.. are you Doctor? or accountant?
+ Que PPC said:
the funny thing is why you add sdkcerts??? if the kitchen do that for us automatically...
nice avatar.. are you Doctor? or accountant?
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YES HE IS A DOCTOR.A FRIEND OF MINE AND CLASSMATE DUDE
cool
10char
+ Que PPC said:
the funny thing is why you add sdkcerts??? if the kitchen do that for us automatically...
nice avatar.. are you Doctor? or accountant?
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sdkcerts solve my problem.....that's why i choose to install it again.....
by the way i am doctor.......
I am looking a solution in order to cook a 6.5.x ROM with the default WM lockscreen?
I use the LEO_S_LockScreenAppLauncher_Default_Skin and LockScreenAppLauncher_1_0_20142921_00 packages without any luck.
The phone is freezing....
Any idea please?
Just leave the sys lockscreen packages out. Or, set the enabled value to 0 in HKLM\software\microsoft\shell\lockscreen. It's always a good idea to just look at the rgu's in a package; most of the stuff is pretty easy to find.
Edit: maybe I'm reading it wrong. If there's some kind of gawdawful HTC lockscreen that's giving you problems, then leave those packages out and cook in the sys packages.
The Enabled value to 0 in HKLM\software\microsoft\shell\lockscreen activate the WM6.1 Lockscreen.
I want activate the HTC 6.5 Lockscreen
totalcmdext said:
The Enabled value to 0 in HKLM\software\microsoft\shell\lockscreen activate the WM6.1 Lockscreen.
I want activate the HTC 6.5 Lockscreen
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Dumb question, but you did leave the HTC Lockscreen out, didn't you?
I don't include the HTCLockScreen_2_0_20192329_00 package.
I have tried also to cook it without Lockscreen and LockscreenNonEA packages without any result.
totalcmdext said:
I don't include the HTCLockScreen_2_0_20192329_00 package.
I have tried also to cook it without Lockscreen and LockscreenNonEA packages without any result.
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If you dont use the lockscreen app launcher package you should get the default wm lockscreen without any other changes.
This is a full and only german WM6.5 COM2 21901 ROM.
I made this ROM for my personal needs and my old Polaris. To give him a new live.
Thanks to all Cookers/Developers! Without their knowledge I would not succeed finding the present solution.
This ROM was build with Barin's wonderful OSBuilder kitchen and unlike other ROM's, you can dump and recook it. All RGU/DSM files are inside (it's a real signed ROM). Feel free to modify it, to fit your needs! Please share the knowledge with the community. Sharing the knowledge rather than keeping it secret is the biggest improvement.
ROM-Base:
WindowsMobile Build 6.5.x COM2-21901
Polaris Native Kernel 6.5 (101MB)
Polaris OEM 3.19 with (massiv) modifications
Packages from Mega (most), Iolite and Topaz
Some custom packages and tweaks
Q: Why to hell a COM2-Build?
A: I dont like the big buttom bar in COM5. That's all.
Q: What packages are inside?
A: Most of Mega, No Manila2D, EzInput 1.5...download and take a look
Downloads:
Please read Post #11! New ROM: 21901_007 (06.05.2011).
I will give it a try because I was searching a german 6.5 Rom for a long time.
Whats about the 3D-Drivers for the polaris, are they included ?
Happy Holidays
MrGame said:
Whats about the 3D-Drivers for the polaris, are they included ?
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Sorry,
3D-Drivers are NOT included. Because the used Kernel is incompatible. If I can find a NK 6.5 for the Polaris with 85MB-RAM (current 101MB) enabled, then I can try to build with the drivers included.
c.u.
MrGame said:
I will give it a try because I was searching a german 6.5 Rom for a long time.
Whats about the 3D-Drivers for the polaris, are they included ?
Happy Holidays
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if you really need a 3D-drivers for Polaris !!! This use
s_marth said:
Sorry,
3D-Drivers are NOT included. Because the used Kernel is incompatible. If I can find a NK 6.5 for the Polaris with 85MB-RAM (current 101MB) enabled, then I can try to build with the drivers included.
c.u.
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you should first edit the ROM using HTCRIE, after in edit you can add files 3D-ROM Driver files
Hakim Rahman said:
you should first edit the ROM using HTCIRT, after in edit you can add files 3D-ROM Driver files
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Wich part of ROM should I edit with HTCIRT?
You cannot use 3D-Drivers with the current Native 6.5 Kernel in my ROM. The kernel is hacked to use the area between 85MB -> 101MB as RAM. The 3D-Drivers like to use this area for DDI.
That's the problem. If I'm wrong, feel free to show me the right way.
s_marth said:
Wich part of ROM should I edit with HTCIRT?
You cannot use 3D-Drivers with the current Native 6.5 Kernel in my ROM. The kernel is hacked to use the area between 85MB -> 101MB as RAM. The 3D-Drivers like to use this area for DDI.
That's the problem. If I'm wrong, feel free to show me the right way.
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sorry I have to straighten, not htcirt but HTC ROM Image Editor , yes it is definitely ruu signed.nbh in ROM which you make with HTCRIE you can add it or subtract the necessary application files survivors trying & good luck
Hello s_marth,
great ROM, I like it!!
But I use Radio-ROM 1.59.44.02, and I had also wakeup problems. Do you have another solution?
The keylock doesn't work. I don't want to use s2u2. Could you fix it?
Matthias
siggilein said:
Hello s_marth,
great ROM, I like it!!
But I use Radio-ROM 1.59.44.02, and I had also wakeup problems. Do you have another solution?
The keylock doesn't work. I don't want to use s2u2. Could you fix it?
Matthias
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Hi Matthias,
I also had wakeup hangs with 1.59.44.02 (not so often as with 1.59.46.12). I'm using 1.59.42.15 at the moment. Over the last 4 days I had no problems.
What you mean? Keylock or lockscreen? For keylock please have a look at: Einstellungen -> Persönlich -> Tastensperre. It works for me.
For automatic lockscreen I use LockDevice 1.6.
cu
Sven
Hi All,
I found a big bug in my ROM!
Please edit the registry to the values in the code window and take a soft-reset:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\TFLOSettings]
"EnableScroll"=dword:0
"EnableSound"=dword:0
"EnableCube"=dword:0
Setting "EnableScroll" to "0" is the most important!
If it is set to "1", the HTC touch.dll/biotouch.dll conflicts with the WM 6.5 builtin touch driver. Typical symptoms are random short hangs while scrolling and lame phone canvas. After edit and soft-reset you get a real fast device.
cu
Sven
Hi All,
here you find a new version of my german ROM for the Polaris.
Changes:
Titanium only! No more Manila2D inside. For me, it is useless bulk.
Fixed scrolling (post #10).
EzInput 1.5 fixed, Landscape added, US and DE keyboards only
LockScreen fixed, HTC-LockScreen-Enh. removed.
Transcriber, Windows Live, Footprints, Manila2D are only present in the kitchen (you can get by request)
EDIT-07.05.2011:
Switching from package "MEGA_Power" (powerexe.exe 2.28) to "POLARIS_Power" (powerexe.exe 2.14). I hope this was the end of search for the reason of random freezes or "sleep of death".
If you like to cook your own ROM, PM me for the kitchen.
Downloads:
EDIT-07.05.2011: New ROM with essential fix, you should upgrade
ROM: https://rapidshare.com/files/461069339/ROM_21901_007.7z
THX,
for this german rom in the Year 2011.
Rom Flash is done. Now i Test you Rom in the next weeks. I hope ist work for me.
Gruss Lothar
many Thanx to u for this great work. I installed it two weeks ago, and it works great. The only thing what is boring is the time to what until xda has manage contact or sms service. I dont know whats going on, and i installed htcs qwertz tab because all other tabs hasn´t work well. Hope i can help with your great work.
cheers
sorry 1 exception xda freezing if the display is fading away, until i push powerbutton. then booting finalized its work... any Idea how to handle it.
Just downloaded and its wirks fine.But it is possible, to make the icons and text in the menue bigger. 3 icon per line ?
zm
dl1bjy said:
Just downloaded and its wirks fine.But it is possible, to make the icons and text in the menue bigger. 3 icon per line ?
zm
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You can allways build your own ROM with my kitchen by request. 3 icons per line is the WM default.
cu
skysegel said:
sorry 1 exception xda freezing if the display is fading away, until i push powerbutton. then booting finalized its work... any Idea how to handle it.
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Hi skysegel,
sorry I forgot to put some modules to slot0. This is fixed in my last ROM (21901_006 from 10.03.2011). I had tested the new ROM over 1 month and got no freeze or SOD anymore.
cu
Little better, or streamline some better!
sleep of death within 5 minutes 3 times.
23.05.11:
Today, only one time
lazomi said:
23.05.11:
Today, only one time
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Hi lazomi,
please perform a Hard-Reset after flashing the ROM. This action formats the flash and loads factory defaults.
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Sven
hi,
i flash mein xda orbit 2 with your ROM_21901_007 few days ago, yesterday i have several times sleep of death only unplug the battery helps...
and yes i made a hardreset after flashing
at the moment i change the settings "Tastensperre" to "Tasten nicht sperren" and no sleep of death so far
what can i do?
p.s. sorry for my bad english