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Best Rom for Hero

Hi, for the past 6 Months i have been a htc Magic owner but ive just recieved my Hero which i have now rooted. Its currently running a Modaco custom Rom formware 1.5 but i want an update. I normally use Cynogens Roms for my Magic, Can anyone recomend a good Rom for my Hero thats very stable please?
This one has issues I.E the backlight and screen never switch off. Its constantly on draining the battery to death. I was thinking of installing the generic rom on there so it can update automaticly when the provider releases the Rom. is that a bad idea?
Thanks you, and Merry Christmas!!

Merry xmas bud,
if i were u, knowing what i do now, i would continue with the MCR's...
v3.0 is spot on for me w/regards to having no bugs/issues... (also looks sweet with Ratcoms ''Clear as a bell'' theme http://www.4shared.com/file/166539476/ad6fb729/clear30.html )
If u wanna venture into the Android 2.0/2.0.1 realms, i played with most of them but they each lack ''core'' elements which is a must for me for day to day usage...
hope some of this helps.
Dickie.

thanks for that, i've been holding out for a 2.1 hero rom for a while now. I guess i may go with the modaco rom until htc get their act together with the 2.1 hero rom.
I have to say i'm massively disappointed with the hero support... i guess this is what happens when open source fragments!

thanks a lot!
If i install one of the generic roms off Modaco http://android.modaco.com/content/h...-24-11-hero-roms-radios-in-update-zip-format/ i will recieve the update earlier compared to the T-mobile carrier Rom wont i?
Thanks

nolimit966 said:
thanks a lot!
If i install one of the generic roms off Modaco http://android.modaco.com/content/h...-24-11-hero-roms-radios-in-update-zip-format/ i will recieve the update earlier compared to the T-mobile carrier Rom wont i?
Thanks
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not as far as im aware...
as with most custom roms, someone usually gets hold of a pre release, and base their rom on that before anyone receives it OTA or via the appropriate website. Then, when the official is released, they update it with the kernel etc from that... (with their tweaks etc...)
Dickie.

zombiefly said:
thanks for that, i've been holding out for a 2.1 hero rom for a while now. I guess i may go with the modaco rom until htc get their act together with the 2.1 hero rom.
I have to say i'm massively disappointed with the hero support... i guess this is what happens when open source fragments!
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I use the latest generic HTC rom, i think its perfect, i had some issues with modaco 3.0, the most annoying being the device didnt remount the sd card after i unmounted it, i had to soft reset before it would read it again, the official rom is gr8 tho, its fast and stable, i havent had any issues to date

mancsoulja said:
I use the latest generic HTC rom, i think its perfect, i had some issues with modaco 3.0, the most annoying being the device didnt remount the sd card after i unmounted it, i had to soft reset before it would read it again, the official rom is gr8 tho, its fast and stable, i havent had any issues to date
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i agree mate

[32a] Best rom's for HTC magic

My reason for doing this topic, is that i have tested roms, over a long period. My history is that i bought a used HTC Magic, it had a Hero Rom on it (Fata1ty) It was so full of bugs and errors, that after i while i started searching for alternatives.
I found the JacHero roms, and tried installing them according to the guides, but i couldn't, since they required Danger SPL and so on.
So i searched some more and came across MyHero (1.1.3) I installed it, and it worked surprisingly well.. I followed the updates until 2.05. But i found some bugs (Bluetooth didn't work!) So after a while i started searching again.
I then stumbled onto GyD's roms.. I Started with the 1.xx version, and updated until the latest 2.1.1, and this rom rocks on the stock spl and radio. Everything works and its has very little lagg. So i could actually have been stuck on that.
UpdateBut i decided to test some other roms, when i heard about the Android Eclair 2.1 coming out. I found Eugene373 and his Hero 3.1, which had been ported to 32a by ahmgsk. I had it on my phone a couple of days, but a lot of things didnt work (Like my language, danish, bluetooth, camera, and there was a few bugs, especially with the HTC apps) so i went back to GyD - But learning to use the xda forum taught me to check out devs statistics and i found that ahmgsk had ported some other roms, including the Expresso 2.0 and the SuperD. So i tested them - and that brought me to test Amon Ra's Ion and Cyanogens 1.6. I compaired the three roms (RAION1,6, Cyanogen 4.2.12.2 ahmgsk's ported SuperD) and i found that SuperD is the closest i can get to having a fully functional Android 1.6 rom.. Unfortunately it doesnt have HTC sense UI, and since i dont like the Sapphire Donut ui, i went further with my testing.
I read about CursorDroid a while ago, i saw that i had to flash radio and spl to use it, so i didnt go into that, since i had a bad experience trying to get JacHeroski 2.2 on my magic - I followed his guide on updating Danger SPL, unfortunately i somehow got the SPL for the 32b, and i bricked my phone.. I didnt like doing that again, but i felt that i had to try. And this i dont regret at all.. Its simply so fast, running so smooth and the guy is amazing. Updating the rom every day, and he responds to all the queryes he gets. I can recommend that all try this - Just follow Amon Ra's guide on upgrading radio and spl, and you cant do it wrong..
First postHi there - This thread is for sharing experiences with the developers rom's, not to ditch anyone, so i hope we can keep a good tone in here. I have tested the most of the rom's for the 32a, and i have tried changing SPL and Radio, and i have rooted a magic, from the latest HTC RUU..
In my experience there are two criterias for being a fast and stable rom.
-It has to support as many users as possible - This means multi language(HTC_IME, Locales and dictionaries from almost every country), no change of SPL and Radio.
- It has to have limited bugs, and Cam, bluetooth, wireless network etc. has to work.
So, i did some testing, i bricked one magic due to it, and i have tried installing the lastest update from HTC, getting root back on my magic, thanks to Amon Ra, and many others.
I always use Amon Ra's recovery images, since they have all the necessary tools. Latest is the recovery-RA-sapphire-v1.5.2H.img, which can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530492
The roms i have tested are:
Amon Ra's ION1.6 (Android 1.6) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538645)
Cyanogen ROM 4.2.12.2 (Android 1.6) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567610)
Ahmgsk's Expresso 2.0 (Android 2.0) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=608581)
Ahmgsk's Ported Hero 3.1 (Android 2.1) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592114)
Ahmgsk's Super_D 1.5.1 (Android 1.6) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609714)
GyD's 2.1.1 (Android 1.5) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548837)
Myhero 2.05 (Android 1.5) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5325344)
These are all tested with SPL 1.33.2010 and Radio 3.22.20.17.
In my opinion, the best, most stable and usable by anyone is GyD 2.1.1, this you just install and setup to your liking, and it runs smooth and fast. Myhero is also like that, but it has some glitches and bugs, like a brightness issue, and the screen seems interlaced when running it.
Of the other roms, if you want to run Android above 1.5, i would suggest that you try out Ahmgsk's Super_D - It is the one that has the latest UI, but it doesnt come with HTC keyboard, and only has limited multi language and dictionaries. You need to install HTC_IME yourself, Cyanogen has put it out on XDA here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567294
I have excluded JacHeroSki 2.2 in this thread so far, because i have been unable to make it run on any of my phones - And i have searched for help regarding flashing radio and Danger SPL, but have been unable to find it for 32a..
I then went and tested CursorDroid's CursorSense which has some complicated installing issues..
First you have to change Radio and SPL, and then you can apply the Rom. This is the only rom available for this SPL and Radio, so you have to revert back, if you dont like this Rom - CursorDroid claims that this is the closest to the real Hero, i wont say for or against, i can just state, that it really works.. This is the best rom on the market at the moment!
CursorSense 1.0final (Android 1.5) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592856)
CursorSense 1.0final has just been released, you can just apply without wipe.. Here is a list of apps i have removed from my version of CursorSense:
Use "adb shell rm"
/data/app/wireless_tether_1_60-pre3_htc.apk
/data/app/wired_tether_1_0.apk
/data/app/BizCardReader.apk
/data/app/AndroidNotes.apk
/data/app/TitaniumBackup.apk
/data/app/org.connectbot.apk
/system/app/com.htc.StockWidget.apk
/system/app/com.htc.StockWidget.odex
/system/app/com.htc.TwitterWidget.apk
/system/app/com.htc.TwitterWidget.odex
/system/app/DCSStock.apk
/system/app/DCSStock.odex
/system/app/HtcFootprints.apk
/system/app/HtcFootprints.odex
/system/app/HtcFootprintsWidget.apk
/system/app/HtcFootprintsWidget.odex
/system/app/HtcTwitter.apk
/system/app/HtcTwitter.odex
/system/app/LearnMore.apk
/system/app/LearnMore.odex
/system/app/Stock.apk
/system/app/Stock.odex
/system/app/teeter.apk
/system/app/teeter.odex
/system/app/WapBrowser.apk
After uninstalling, reboot with "adb shell reboot"
Last but most importantly, i would like to give big thanks to all the developers on xda, you make a tremendous effort, giving us all the best experiences with our phones. Without you guys, no one would have the opportunity to experience the full capacity of Android! Keep up the good work, and do you guys need any help, i would gladly help out in any way i can..

Cheers dude!
Thumbs up for CursorSense , indeed the BEST rom out there! ( Thanks Cursor! )
Regards,
Eyegor

Nice article!
And I couldn't agree more.
I have also tried a few ROMs, but I have never been as satisfied as I am now.
My ranking would be:
1. CursorSense 1.0RC1
2. MagicGyd 2.1.1
3. CaSense 1.11
4. MyHero 2.0.5
CursorSense is the only ROM that is currently under development, and we can expect a new version (1.0RC2) in the next few days. Updating Radio, SPL and using Amon's Hero Recovery is a requirement, but when following instructions, you should not risk bricking your phone.
Highly recommended!

CursorSense is still 1.5 right? Same as all other Hero roms? Just want to know what is so great about it.

evilmerlin said:
CursorSense is still 1.5 right? Same as all other Hero roms? Just want to know what is so great about it.
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The quick answer is speed and stability. Sure some version have had issues, but with the latest release all have been removed, and since it's still being improved, the developer is addressing any newly reported issues in future releases.
The best way to learn about the ROM, and get the full story, I recommend reading through the developers thread (or at least the last 10-15 pages)

To everyone looking for a clean ROM I would recommend Amon_Ra's
Its almost as clean as a stock ROM
But it provides a 1.6 update to the 32a board (where HTC didnt) and the cleaness make it as good as a HTC update

evilmerlin said:
CursorSense is still 1.5 right? Same as all other Hero roms? Just want to know what is so great about it.
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CursorSense is Android 1.5, but its running on upgraded spl and radio - Spl and Radio that are from a genuine HTC Hero phone, so its not like other Hero rom's available on Magic spl. It's really fast, and everything works..

My reason for doing this topic, is that i have tested roms, over a long period. My history is that i bought a used HTC Magic, it had a Hero Rom on it (Fata1ty) It was so full of bugs and errors, that after i while i started searching for alternatives.
I found the JacHero roms, and tried installing them according to the guides, but i couldn't, since they required Danger SPL and so on.
So i searched some more and came across MyHero (1.1.3) I installed it, and it worked surprisingly well.. I followed the updates until 2.05. But i found some bugs (Bluetooth didn't work!) So after a while i started searching again.
I then stumbled onto GyD's roms.. I Started with the 1.xx version, and updated until the latest 2.1.1, and this rom rocks on the stock spl and radio. Everything works and its has very little lagg. So i could actually have been stuck on that.
But i decided to test some other roms, when i heard about the Android Eclair 2.1 coming out. I found Eugene373 and his Hero 3.1, which had been ported to 32a by ahmgsk. I had it on my phone a couple of days, but a lot of things didnt work (Like my language, danish, bluetooth, camera, and there was a few bugs, especially with the HTC apps) so i went back to GyD - But learning to use the xda forum taught me to check out devs statistics and i found that ahmgsk had ported some other roms, including the Expresso 2.0 and the SuperD. So i tested them - and that brought me to test Amon Ra's Ion and Cyanogens 1.6. I compaired the three roms (RAION1,6, Cyanogen 4.2.12.2 ahmgsk's ported SuperD) and i found that SuperD is the closest i can get to having a fully functional Android 1.6 rom.. Unfortunately it doesnt have HTC sense UI, and since i dont like the Sapphire Donut ui, i went further with my testing.
I read about CursorDroid a while ago, i saw that i had to flash radio and spl to use it, so i didnt go into that, since i had a bad experience trying to get JacHeroski 2.2 on my magic - I followed his guide on updating Danger SPL, unfortunately i somehow got the SPL for the 32b, and i bricked my phone.. I didnt like doing that again, but i felt that i had to try. And this i dont regret at all.. Its simply so fast, running so smooth and the guy is amazing. Updating the rom every day, and he responds to all the queryes he gets. I can recommend that all try this - Just follow Amon Ra's guide on upgrading radio and spl, and you cant do it wrong..

well the thread is a good, idea. the amount of changes required and also the higher risk of bricking it compared to other roms doesn't appeal.
I am leaning to wards gyd for my magic.

I have updated post 1, so there is some more news..
I also take recommendations to other roms than the ones i have covered, and i can test roms for you, if you want me to..

Wow, didnt' realize that all of this was going on!
Thanks guys, I appreciate the support!
Stay tuned for more updates!
For anyone scared to update radio/spl, there is no need to worry as long as you remember to follow directions and ask questions if you need help.
Cheers!

cursordroid said:
Wow, didnt' realize that all of this was going on!
Thanks guys, I appreciate the support!
Stay tuned for more updates!
For anyone scared to update radio/spl, there is no need to worry as long as you remember to follow directions and ask questions if you need help.
Cheers!
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yeah, juz flashed your ROM today and must say it's freaking awesome. I was on AmonRa's 1.6.3 and it was not as fast and crash-free as your ROM.

Yeah, its a really cool rom, and now its final.
I am currently testing Cyanogen 4.2.12.2 on my other phone - Its running smooth and stable so far. All i miss is the danish HTC_IME, so i dont have to have an Locale app, to be able to revert back to danish, when i had to write in english. And then the Sense UI, that would be nice..

How about posting up some videoreviews of Cursordroid on Youtube?
Can't believe there's almost no custom ROM reviews

i use myhero 2.0.5, it's good for me

jcbwng said:
How about posting up some videoreviews of Cursordroid on Youtube?
Can't believe there's almost no custom ROM reviews
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Great idea, I will most certainly think about it. Got a 8mp webcam, so..

IMO cursordroid's cursorsense is the most stable of the ROM's I have tried so far (i've tried cyanogen and Amon_RA's rom) but I didn't expect I was constantly gonna need the bluetooth FTP which made me change from cursorsense to back to cyanogen (it was very hard on me to let that ROM go)
Anyway, when cursordroid's rom gets upgraded to android 1.6/2.0 (i feel this is gonna be soon, very soon), I'll flash it again

rockmau said:
IMO cursordroid's cursorsense is the most stable of the ROM's I have tried so far (i've tried cyanogen and Amon_RA's rom) but I didn't expect I was constantly gonna need the bluetooth FTP which made me change from cursorsense to back to cyanogen (it was very hard on me to let that ROM go)
Anyway, when cursordroid's rom gets upgraded to android 1.6/2.0 (i feel this is gonna be soon, very soon), I'll flash it again
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Sense UI + Android 2.1 will be out eventually (The sooner the better) and when it does you know Cursor will be on it.

My opinion - which one is the best (most stable) one - CursorSense
Hi everyone
At the moment, my phone is powered on CursorSense (Updated to 1.2.6.1) and it has workiong so great so far.
I really tried, cnahged and tested many other roms before and this one looks like the most stable then any previous one.
It's the most stable rom for HTC magic (which including SenseUI) and the most featrues works.
Of course, everyone of u knows that there r some bluetooth issue and Android is based on v1.5, but upgraded rom and spl makes phone running really fast and stable
So, my recomandition to everyone (who hasn't tried yet) to run this rom
I belive that everyone would like it is based on Android 2.0 (or above ), bluetooth ftp works propetly...but there's no such a perfect rom, so, I hope this one will be upgraded to more stable version which will be deployed to my phone as soon as it comes out
Best regards!

CursorSense by a mile
The first ROM I installed on my Rodgers Magic was Amon_RA's 1.6.3. Worked great BUT my Magic is one of those that reboots when the camera is used on a Donut or Eclair ROM. After trying lots of ROMS, I discovered that the camera reboots went away using the new radio and a Eclair ROM. The Eclair roms are too slow and buggy for me so I now have CursorSense and will upgrade to 2.1 when it is released by Rodgers and rooted most likely by CursorDroid.

Release of Official T-Mobile HD2 MR Software (Version 3.14.531.1 )

Hi guys
Received a sms message from T-mobile announcing the official release of ROM update. Check out the Tmobile HD2 site.
Edit:
Installed the update; found nothing new or exciting and now reverting back to Kumar's TMHD2 Touch Premium 2.9 WWE
For those who have flashed 2.08.HSPL to use unofficial ROMs, if you install the official release by USB your 2.08 HSPL will still be intact after the upgrade and you can go back to other ROMs with out any problem. That's what I did by reverting back to Kumar's ROM.

tm515 said:
Hi guys
Received a sms message from T-mobile of the official release of ROM update check out the Tmobile HD2 site.
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I am curious too about what it is for, it would be cool if it was Windows 7.
I am running Energy Rom, and Radio 2.15.50.14, so I am assuming updating would be a bad idea.

I just got the sms message too - I'm downloading it right now from the t-mobile website.
Figures - I just put a different ROM on my phone - yesterday! hahaha

i wonder why i didnt get a text, maybe because i was in android?
anyways how is it?

ceo4eva said:
i wonder why i didnt get a text, maybe because i was in android?
anyways how is it?
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Nah, I was in android as well and I got the message.
Win7 would be cool but android is the best.

Radio Version on this MR
what is the radio version on this Maintenance Release?

Can you tell me wich kumar's rom is the best yet...
and wich corecell roms are best yet?????????????
plz

salo0oh20 said:
Can you tell me wich kumar's rom is the best yet...
and wich corecell roms are best yet?????????????
plz
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download and try them both.. and then decide from there..

I got the text also. I am downloading it now. Is there anything different than the 3.14 ROM that was posted last a couple of weeks ago?

chadster214 said:
download and try them both.. and then decide from there..
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ya but there is versions for each of and i am confuse i dont know which one is better so if any one has any experience just feed me

Still no multitouch keyboard. Is this not possible with WM6.5? I just can't understand why, almost a year after initial release, HTC has not released a multitouch keyboard for WM6.5 on the HD2. Iphone and Android have had it forever, and it makes SUCH A BIG difference!

salo0oh20 said:
Can you tell me wich kumar's rom is the best yet...
and wich corecell roms are best yet?????????????
plz
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As so many forum members have said, perhaps for a million times, ROM preference is really an art of matching ones individual needs; I have been testing several ROMs, Energy, Kumar's, Omega etc. and currently find Kumar's ROM meeting my needs. To me Kumar's ROMs seem stable and do not have many programs that the chefs generally tend to add to their custom ROMs. I like my system to be as minimum and as stable as possible so that I can add and customize it as I want.
So the best thing is to try couple of Custom ROMs and see if you feel comfortable with the version of ROM you have installed.
Also, the latest version of ROM (both Official, Custom) are generally less buggy.
For those of us who do not want to go for the custom ROMs, I guess today's official release from T-mobile should be the one we should be upgrading to. T-mobile must have ironed out previous noted bugs in this new upgarde. For the brief moments that I played with the official new release; everything was smooth and working. But as I said earlier, I have now reverted back to Kumar's ROM.

It appears that today's 'Official" release is the same as the leaked release from a couple of weeks ago.
The size of the RUU_signed.nbh is exactly the same size. The date is different but I doubt that means anything significant.

I never got any text from tmo. :-(

after attempting the update, I get 7 vibrations in a row at the tmo boot screen and then it freezes. Anyone else have this issue?

Just installed, took like 3 mins and it runs ok, they added new icons: amazon Mp3, Myaccount, Shazam and T-Mobile Help... my account and t-help icons are useless they dont do anything, still testing, i saw some improvements like faster reading from memory, now when i insert the sd card with a bunch of images, videos and music it takes less time reading them, the only issue that i got was that im unable to run android cuz it gets a weird screen and it does nothing, but if i get some problem i'll post it ok? thx!

what does the update even do?

CharlonT said:
what does the update even do?
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Here's what the update fixes:
- Browsing Facebook photos is slow
- White screen while browsing the internet
- Cannot delete GMAIL messages from the preview screen
- SMS sends to the wrong person
- Twitter errors
- Cannot unlock the phone
- Cannot unlock the phone with the correct password
- No space bar on company directory keyboard
- Can’t hear Visual Voicemails
- Speakerphone stops working after using the Call Assist app to call 611

tm515 said:
Hi guys
Received a sms message from T-mobile announcing the official release of ROM update. Check out the Tmobile HD2 site.
Edit:
Installed the update; found nothing new or exciting and now reverting back to Kumar's TMHD2 Touch Premium 2.9 WWE
For those who have flashed 2.08.HSPL to use unofficial ROMs, if you install the official release by USB your 2.08 HSPL will still be intact after the upgrade and you can go back to other ROMs with out any problem. That's what I did by reverting back to Kumar's ROM.
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I just updated to 2.13 the other day, and I put a custom ROM on my phone that I really really like alot since my phone seems to respond better to this one with no small lag. I have a question though, if I update to 3.14 will I loose the ability to put the custom ROM back on the phone or is it safe to update and put the custom ROM back in?

hi,
I have stock ROM 2.13.531.1
i recently installed HSPL3 and radio 2.15.50.14
now my quuestion is will i be able to install the new ROM without any problem? i dont want to brick my phone. Also will i be able to install the same radio 2.15.50.14 after installing the new stock ROM.
Hopefully htc have fixed the sms bug coz everytime i get a new sms my whole phone freezes for like 5 sec. and its really killing me.
thanks guys

Is flashing a custom rom a good deal ?

Hey there,
im pretty happy with my phone, but sometime i feel like its some kinda bad to get apps for evey setting that htc did not provide in 2.2 (2.2.1 not available to me yet). Although i think enough "****" is running systemwise that noone needs.
So flashing to a custom rom seems to be an pretty easy thing if you
do it carefully and check all potential failure actions.
Will custom roms make the phone faster ?
To all that flashed yet: Do you regret it or is it like the best thing you can do ?
Do i lose any important functions of my phone ? Are the roms stable and working good actually ?
Thanks !

mydanny said:
Hey there,
im pretty happy with my phone, but sometime i feel like its some kinda bad to get apps for evey setting that htc did not provide in 2.2 (2.2.1 not available to me yet). Although i think enough "****" is running systemwise that noone needs.
So flashing to a custom rom seems to be an pretty easy thing if you
do it carefully and check all potential failure actions.
Will custom roms make the phone faster ?
To all that flashed yet: Do you regret it or is it like the best thing you can do ?
Do i lose any important functions of my phone ? Are the roms stable and working good actually ?
Thanks !
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Having been running Custom Roms since I had my HTC Magic, I would heartly recommend them to most users, It's all about what you want from your phone though. If you are unhappy with all the bloatware installed and dislike sense it's an ideal way to streamline functionality, your DHD will, in most cases , run smoother than stock and should have at least comparable battery life. Currently I am running CM7 which gives me a stable gingerbread based rom, with a decent custom rom there should be no loss of functionality (even the FM radio works these days).

Custom ROMs are by and large an excellent way to keep your phone up to date whilst taking advantage of new features.
There is a risk of introducing new issues, but the support you get is a million times better than you'd get from the manufacturer, and new updates are usually a couple of times a week rather than a couple of times a year.
The main risk, I find (at least from my Windows Mobile days) is that some ROM developers tend to let things run away from them a bit and end up sandwiching so many new features and launchers and eye candy etc that it ends up slowing the phone down more than the stock ROM did.
So far I've not seen anything like that on recent Android devices, but with older handsets like the Hero there are some custom ROMs that are noticably slower than stock.
As long as you realise that there is a performance limit on your handset that will eventually be breached, then you will have a happy experience with custom ROMs.

Sounds promising. Really.
Im just irritated with the instructions.
My Desire HD is yet rooted.
But there is nothing about S-OFF or Radio OFF mentioned.
I remember most instructions with S-OFF and then Rom Manager or something.
But in this case - Whats the "Wipe" ? Normally means all stuff gets removed ?
Im missing detailled information, especially how installing the rom (via app ?)
and which version i need of my desire hd and more :/
Is this the safest way to flash it ?
And waht the hell means "vendor = ace" ?
Which vendor i "got" ? Im irritated or maybe i translate things bad from eng into ger
ps: guess i got it. htc ace was/is the codename for the desire hd device.

mydanny said:
Sounds promising. Really.
Im just irritated with the instructions.
My Desire HD is yet rooted.
But there is nothing about S-OFF or Radio OFF mentioned.
I remember most instructions with S-OFF and then Rom Manager or something.
But in this case - Whats the "Wipe" ? Normally means all stuff gets removed ?
Im missing detailled information, especially how installing the rom (via app ?)
and which version i need of my desire hd and more :/
Is this the safest way to flash it ?
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In my experience, the easiest way to get ENG S-OFF and Radio S-OFF would be to use jkoljo's excelent tools for S-OFF and Radio S-OFF. Here's a guide to flashing a new radio after you have done Radio S-OFF.
In the Radio S-OFF topic, there's also a small guide for flashing a new rom. If you need a more detailed one, you can find one here.
The next step is to find the rom that suits you the most, for example Android Revolution HD or LeeDroid. Download the ROM you like the most, then follow the aforementioned guide to flash it.
When you go from one rom to another, it's always reccomended to do a full wipe (unless it's just a rom update, then you don't always have to do it). In this case, it means that all your data and settings will be lost, except for the stuff you have on your SD card. You can use your Google-account to back up your apps and contacts and stuff, so do that if you feel you need it.
Hope this helps.

Other handy tools for data backup before migrating to a new rom are MyBackup Pro and of course, Titanium Backup.
Don't forget that contacts, market apps, and wi-fi passwords are synced to your google account by default, so no need for huge app backup files unless you have several apks from other sources..
The guides about S-OFF and Radio flashing posted above are detailed and relatively easy for anyone willing to experiment.
Just make sure that you check the instructions carefully, and double-check whatever you type in adb. The few minutes of making sure you're following instructions to the letter can save you hours of un-needed trouble and aggravation..
Also take note, different custom ROMs often recommend specific radios for maximum compatibility. This can make a significant difference in battery and wireless performance, specially with power hungry devices such as ours.
And above all, try different roms, see what you like best. Running the bleeding edge in Android can be as fun as it can be frustrating, so try to find the best suit for your phone and you, and enjoy it

So alright - I think i got it:
1. Root Device (Visionary)
2. Radio S-Off (Tool)
3. Radio Off (Tool)
4. Download a Radio.img (How can i find out which works best with the crom i want ?)
5. Use radio tool and reboot
6. Find a suitable custom rom
7. install and voila - there we go
Some questions that came up:
- Whats the "best" radio out there ? Is this as important as picking a good C-Rom ?
- HTC Sync preinstalls only means that i got it on my PC already, right ?
- And can all of those steps (except root) kill my device (=brick) or am i safe at the moment when Radio S-OFF and Eng S-OFF worked properly ?
- Nowhere is something about the VERSION i need ? So will a Desire HD 2.1, 2.2, 2.2.1 and 2.3 work with all the STEPS ?
Which custom rom is the best for me ? How can i compare all roms out ?
I only heard bout Android Rev HD, LeedDroid and CYMOD.
I want speed and i want a nice User Interface (but i guess i can reach that with ADW.Launcher.EX or Launch-Pro no matter how the Rom looks ?)
Thanks guys for all the answers already !
Would be so thankful if you can finish this with me.
PS: If i "brick" my device is there 100% no chance to unbrick it ?
Was possible with psp 2000 e.g. after some months. think so with desire hd too ?

1. In most cases, the developer of any given rom will reccomend a spesific radio to use with his/hers rom (like with LeeDroid or ARHD). Usually I'd just go for that radio, but as with so many other things in life, your mileage with a spesific radio may vary. While one user might report good signal strength and battery with one radio, another user might say the complete opposite. Anyway, stick to the radio reccomended by the ROM developer. I think that's the safest to do.
2. I've not even used HTC Sync since I bought my Desire HD, and I don't see the need to use it.
3. You're never 100% safe, but in my experience, once you're past the ENG/Radio S-OFF and your new radio is flashed, it's usually smooth sailing from there. But always remember that **** can happen, and you might be unlucky, so if you're unsure of something, read up on the subject as many times as you need for you to feel comfortable doing it.
4. As for what rom is best, that's really up to you I think. I've stuck to ARHD, and I find it fantastic, but you might like LeeDroid or CM7 better. Just look at screen shots, and try to figure out which one is most suited for you. And as you said, with AWD or LauncherPro, and the right wallpaper, any ROM can look beautiful
5. If your device is bricked, I don't know of any method of getting it back to life. All I can think of is send it to HTC, claim that it's dead, and hope for the best.

I flashed my first ROM yesterday just (leedroid 2.2.2). I havent really had much of a chance to explore the real benefits of it, but im already delighted that i did it. Just by being able to add custom themes, fonts and skins to get the phone looking much brighter and colourful. Also nice playing with overclocking the processor.
Took a bit of work to downgrade the software to get root, then a few problems getting s-off etc, but in the end it was all a good learning experience. Certainly dont regret doing it, just sort of regret that i put it off for so long. Looking forward to much playing about with different ROMS and customising them.
Just make sure you read the threads on here about rooting very carefully. And also read very carefull the instructions that come with each ROM. Leedroid recommended a radio that works best with his ROM, so i flashed that. Dont know if others do the same as i havent got round to trying any others yet.

Am i right that only with Radio S-OFF i will be also able to install custom roms,
but NO new radio versions ? Is the problem the compability (with croms) or is there any other reason for new radios than better connection/battery ?
Which users are fine with only Radio S-OFF ?
As i can read, RSPOFF is safer than ENGSOFF.
Also: the question about the VERSION is really making me moving.
Hope someone can explain me, why nowhere is mentioned something about it.
I remember 2.2.1 cant be rooted and 2.3 - so is this the explaination
(cause you cant go over step 1) ? or whats the point ?

mydanny said:
1. Root Device (Visionary)
2. Radio S-Off (Tool)
3. Radio Off (Tool)
4. Download a Radio.img (How can i find out which works best with the crom i want ?)
5. Use radio tool and reboot
6. Find a suitable custom rom
7. install and voila - there we go
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Once you've done Radio S-OFF (not sure what your step 3 is - seems the same as 2) then I'd recommend installing ROM Manager from the Market and ensuring you have either ClockWorkMod 2.5.1.3 (up to Android 2.2) or 3.0.0.6 (android 2.3) installed. This then allows you do do all your Nandroid backups and System wipes that you will need to before you flash a new ROM.
- Whats the "best" radio out there ? Is this as important as picking a good C-Rom ?
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As said, there is technically no "Best" radio - but the dev of a ROM will recommend a decent compatible ROM. You are welcome to try others but you may notice weaker signal or degraded battery life.
- HTC Sync preinstalls only means that i got it on my PC already, right ?
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It's useful for getting the right drivers on your computer - but probably not much else!
- And can all of those steps (except root) kill my device (=brick) or am i safe at the moment when Radio S-OFF and Eng S-OFF worked properly ?
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Not "Safe" but at least much more likely to be able to recover. You can still permanently damage it - but doing so would be pretty hard work!
- Nowhere is something about the VERSION i need ? So will a Desire HD 2.1, 2.2, 2.2.1 and 2.3 work with all the STEPS ?
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Generally the steps are the same throughout...though you'd be hard-pressed to find a DHD ROM on 2.1!
Which custom rom is the best for me ? How can i compare all roms out ?
I only heard bout Android Rev HD, LeedDroid and CYMOD.
I want speed and i want a nice User Interface (but i guess i can reach that with ADW.Launcher.EX or Launch-Pro no matter how the Rom looks ?)
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Read their respective threads and see what you like and don't like. That's what everyone else does. No ROM is "better" than the other.
PS: If i "brick" my device is there 100% no chance to unbrick it ?
Was possible with psp 2000 e.g. after some months. think so with desire hd too ?
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Depends how badly bricked it is! (see above)

To add the misstying under 2. or 3.
I meant:
2. Radio S-oFF
3. ENG S-Off.
What is ENG S-OFF in some easy words doing other than Radio ?
As i understood - without ENG S-oFF i cant install custom radio images, right ?
Means: New Roms, but maybe not the best compatible radios ?
Also: When installed Clockwork i can backup everything ?
Means a NANDROID backup i guess ?
I thought when i want to get back, i just need this Ruu Rom and
Set all Tools to S-ON ? So this Nandroid backup, whats that ? "Ruu" is the original rom and the "nandroid backup" is the system-backup/firmware/original radio.img?
Im just ab it irritated with all the words like rom, radio, firmware :/
Im so thankful for all the answers yet.
Never expected such useful answers, most forums full of guys that link
to other threads and do not really care. so until now - great work !

mydanny said:
Am i right that only with Radio S-OFF i will be also able to install custom roms,
but NO new radio versions ? Is the problem the compability (with croms) or is there any other reason for new radios than better connection/battery ?
Which users are fine with only Radio S-OFF ?
As i can read, RSPOFF is safer than ENGSOFF.
Also: the question about the VERSION is really making me moving.
Hope someone can explain me, why nowhere is mentioned something about it.
I remember 2.2.1 cant be rooted and 2.3 - so is this the explaination
(cause you cant go over step 1) ? or whats the point ?
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ENG S-OFF will allow you to flash rom's, Radio s-OFF will allow you to flash radio's as well (ENG S-off fools h-boot into believing it has radio s-off)
Radio S-OFF will not be reverted by flashing a new h-boot unlike ENG S-OFF.
Different rom's suit different people, seen as you are going to loose all your data falshing a custom rom, i would recommend flashing a couple and having a play around (leedroid and Coredroid etc have sense if that rock's your boat, Cyanogenmod is closer to vanilla android) as everyone has a different preference.
The Versioning of ROM's is a bit of a grey area all ROM's are based on an android release 2.1, 2.2.1, or even 2.3 etc but many have features ported to them from other release i.e stuff from 2.3 or even 2.4 may be present in a 2.1 based ROM so look for a rom with the features you desire rather than relying on the base. But some ROM's require different instructions for flashing i.e Gingerbread ROM's require clockwork recovery version 3.x this is due to different file systems used, to be safe make sure to read the first couple of entries in the ROM thread in the development section before flashing as it will list any special requirements or steps that need taking prior to flashing.

ghostofcain said:
ENG S-OFF will allow you to flash rom's, Radio s-OFF will allow you to flash radio's as well (ENG S-off fools h-boot into believing it has radio s-off)
Radio S-OFF will not be reverted by flashing a new h-boot unlike ENG S-OFF.
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Maybe im just reading it wrong, but do you mean that Radio S-OFF has all the features that ENG S-OFF brings PLUS the radio flash option ?
Then why all the instructions say, i need both (ENG and Radio) ?
Generelly, you recommend only ENG S-OFF or will the most good Custom Roms not work that good with the original radio version from htc ?
And Gingerbread Roms need Clockwork 3.X - But Clockwork 3.X needs Desire HD with 2.3, as i got told above.
And i cant upgrad to this by using HTC Updater. I guess, i have to manually upgrade my original Firmware then, right ?

Complete guide in my sig (check out the dev forums, lots of them out there)
Radio s-off and eng s-off are 2 different things and you need both if you want to be able to flash a rom.
And yes, I love my custom rom more than I will ever love stock. Why? because it looks like the stock one but it's lightning fast and drains less battery. Oh, and I have better reception

mydanny said:
And Gingerbread Roms need Clockwork 3.X - But Clockwork 3.X needs Desire HD with 2.3, as i got told above.
And i cant upgrad to this by using HTC Updater. I guess, i have to manually upgrade my original Firmware then, right ?
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Gingerbread roms need 3.X, but you don't need Gingerbread to install it. I have CWM 3.0.0.6 but am on a FroYo ROM. All down to my own personal choice!
Also, yes. a Nandroid backup is an exact copy of your ROM (not your radio). So all apps, settings etc will be exactly the same when you restore it. You can't do this without a clockworkmod recovery.
ROM Manager interfaces with CWM and allows you better management of your backups and also gives you an easy way to upgrade your recovery without having to mess around in a terminal emulator or command window.

The relationship between Kernel, Radio (Baseband) and a custom ROM? So in theory, can you mix and match different version and combination, but there seems to be proven combination that works better, is that correct?
Base on what I am reading, they are can contribute to a faster, more stable, and a more battery efficient phone system.

wid0w said:
Complete guide in my sig (check out the dev forums, lots of them out there)
Radio s-off and eng s-off are 2 different things and you need both if you want to be able to flash a rom.
And yes, I love my custom rom more than I will ever love stock. Why? because it looks like the stock one but it's lightning fast and drains less battery. Oh, and I have better reception
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Nice Guide. Has everything i need.
Why i need both ?
In case i dont need/want a new radio version and ONLY a new crom,
i dont need the Radio S-OFF. Cause you say i need both ? Why ?
Maybe gimme a short answer to that.
Will be thankful !

wid0w said:
Complete guide in my sig (check out the dev forums, lots of them out there)
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For flashing under windows that is, the instructions here, whilst a little more complicated cater for all OS'es

ghostofcain said:
For flashing under windows that is, the instructions here, whilst a little more complicated cater for all OS'es
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Link not working.
Whats that ? Another guide ?
Whats the differ ? Oo

Htc desire hd s-on ??

can you please help i got htc desire hd i would like to update over air the new FIRMWARE 2.3.5 ?
I have rooted my phone with aahk software all I did was just run the program NO custom firmware that's it and it unlocked my phone
can I update over air the firmware 2.3.5 I don't mind if loose the rooting
THANK YOU

OTA updates are dependent upon your network releasing them... so you'll have to wait, or perhaps contact your network to see if you can get an eta out of them. You also might have to get AAHK to 'return you to stock RUU' in order for the OTA to even kick in.
...however, since you've already used AAHK anyway, you have the option of flashing your '2.3.5' roms of different flavours, or even the 4.0.x ICS. Though bear in mind that flashing the latter would give you an early development rom that probably won't be as stable nor have the complete set of features as say... some of the more established gingerbread roms.
Were I in your shoes, I'd just flash the custom roms that will suit my individual needs, no rom is better overall... its literally 'horses for courses' in regards to what's currently released.
Just do your homework and read as much as you can in regards to the rom you want to choose, as well as the RADIO/RIL/Kernel you want to pair it up with.
The 'search' tool here in the forum is quite good for doing this, and the stickies... though not updated frequently, does have the important threads still linked.
Good luck and happy hunting. ^_~

Basehumax said:
can you please help i got htc desire hd i would like to update over air the new FIRMWARE 2.3.5 ?
I have rooted my phone with aahk software all I did was just run the program NO custom firmware that's it and it unlocked my phone
can I update over air the firmware 2.3.5 I don't mind if loose the rooting
THANK YOU
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Downloading an OTA can mess up your phone since you have rooted, so technically its S-OFF. In theory you could download the OTA and it MAY appear as available but hearing mixed replies on similar topics, the results vary from returning the phone to stock to seriously messing with it.
I'd do what the man above me suggested, browse through the dev section and stickies, use search and read as much as you can about custom ROM's. Some are seriously amazing and will give you more then any custom ROM can offer.
Good luck.

thanks
thank you guys for your advice
where can I get custom files for HTC desire HD t-mobile UK
also if anyone know how can I fix my GPS it takes long before I can get signal
that's why I wanted to upgrade the firmware IF I CAN FIX THE GPS I DON'T MIND STAYING ROOTED PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME
THANK YOU VERY MUCH

...you're supposed to do the research yourself.
However, since I'm in an ok mood, here are links to the roms you might want to flash.
BTW, assuming you ran the Advance Ace Hack Kit successfully, you're phone is now technically SIM unlocked... meaning you don't have to get 'custom files for HTC desire HD t-mobile UK' ...so all the ROMS i've linked below will work on your phone.
Note - General direction on how to flash these ROMS/RADIO/RIL/KERNEL:
download the ZIP to your SD
reboot your phone to recovery by shutting down, once its completely shutdown... press and hold vol-down and power, then choose RECOVERY on bootloader menu
choose 'install from SDCard'...
find the ZIP file of the rom and let it to its thing.
However, PLEASE READ the thread's first couple of post, and consult the support threads which the ROM links to in order to get a more detailed info on installing and confirguring the rom
Sense 3.5 ROMS:
RCMix3D 4.0 Runny
EREBUS XL3.5
Virtuous Affinity 1.48.0
Sense 3.0 ROMS:
Android Revolution HD 6.3.1
Beatmod FlyerDOM V2.0
RADIO & RIL thread
(YOU MUST FLASH THE RECOMMENDED RADIO FOR YOUR ROM, or at least the recommended one on the 1st post of the radio thread.
YOU MUST ALSO FLASH THE MATCHING RIL TO THE RADIO IF YOU'RE USING A SENSE ROM!
Kernels (flash the one that 'feels' ok in regards to your phone performance):
LORDMOD (latest is V5.0)
KLquicksall RCMix3D (Latest is V12, but most stable is V11.1v2)
...there'd be more, so search the forums for them... the above is the most popular ones.
For everything else, please consult this thread... or perhaps use the SEARCH function of the forum.
...I think that's enough spoonfeeding from me... =P

faster gps fix
Hi Basehumax, here's a fix for ur GPS:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239713
I'm in the Uk myself and can confirm it worked for me. I'll get a fix in 5-10 secs outside and 10-15 inside. If that doesn't work there's also this fix, but it's a hardware job and will take some phone dismantling:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1101066

thank you guys for your advice
I will try first gps if everthing well gps i will stay on my rom
thank you 10000000000000000000000000% without you eyes will not open