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Is android worth it?

I know you can get lots of cool apps, and android is better than winmobile but if I install android on my htc touch hd my camera will not work and im not on contract so ill have to pay for internet usage. Even though I don’t use my camera much will there be a fix for this anytime soon? Also can you give me a link about which android to use e.g. ecliar or frosty?

mickeystar said:
Even though I don’t use my camera much will there be a fix for this anytime soon? Also can you give me a link about which android to use e.g. ecliar or frosty?
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Do you believe in GOD?
You're free to feel the same about possibility of working camera on android.
Nobody knows and only few developers care. We could only wait.
Concerning "ecliar" and "frosty" you'll find all the info hier.
Wish a nice xadnroid testing.

I Agree on the camera but what the ... I was able to run android on my HD so I`m happy as a kid with a popsicle!
I can only advise you to just go out and try it, if you don`t like it, switch back to WM, get yourself a hamer, smash your phone, smash your money box and buy a android phone

Dodo-tje said:
smash your phone, smash your money box and buy a android phone
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I had the same thoughts after trying android on my HTC HD)

mickeystar said:
I know you can get lots of cool apps, and android is better than winmobile but if I install android on my htc touch hd my camera will not work and im not on contract so ill have to pay for internet usage. Even though I don’t use my camera much will there be a fix for this anytime soon? Also can you give me a link about which android to use e.g. ecliar or frosty?
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It's not like you have to get rid of winmo when trying Android. Just restart your phone and you're back on untouched Windows Mobile.
Check this link for an easy start:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732362
As for me... I prefer running unfinished Android port on my Blackstone than this abomination --> Windows Mobile

it is worth it
The latest cab is by far the easiest way to try out androud on your htc touch hd, however if you can then goto the latest kernel downloads and "update" using the methods described you will get better stability and longer(slighty) battery life.
With any kind of situation where good people are investing their time and are in general outside of the official htc tech box, then issues will and do arise. If you wait some time then issues are sorted, and other problems crop up. This is how it is for now, but things are much better now thanks to all the efforts from the devs on this site(and others) and are making android for hd a real possibility.
My experience is that with the newer kernels and certain power saving techniques andoid is usable for a very busy person working an 8-10 hour day. It was a very hard slog for a newbie to load up new kernels etc, but they do make a diffrence and settle stability issues and quirky behaviour.
Remember, the touch hd is no rocket ship and making some of the graphic games/apps in a playable manner is a small miracle from the devs. Some inevitably wont work, but thats just the way it is. There are options for overclocking your hd and again it is up to the owner to do(or not) this and face up to the risks this may have on your device.
In short, no praise is high enough for the often free time and effort devs and forum helpers give to get and keep this project going.
Thanks to all,
steve.

Yes and No!
After seeing WP7 in use and trying android on my HD I have decided that there only is one real choice and that is Android on my next phone!
If you want to check out android without the commitment of buying a new phone then trying it on your HD is a great way. BUT it was not designed for our phones so yea no camera and bad battery etc are part of the package. If you like it then smash your piggy bank and buy a android phone! some good deals can had if you dont mind a used phone or dont need an unlocked phone.

When you have 'free' internet access, android is a MUST, I'll never go back to winmo
when I really need the camera I just restart my phone into winmo, take a picture/movie and then boot android
Without internet (3g internet) I don't know if it's worth it though...

I agree! I was amazed by the google navigator app but this is useless without internet. As a matter of fact, this is allready useless when you pass the border of your country as internet fees rise sky high when outside your country!

I am not sure what you mean by not having 3g, as i have it and it works a charm.

No.
As for a day to day using experience and with the need to trust that your phone doesn't shut down all of a sudden, its not worth the risk of using XDAndroid on your Blackstone yet.
As a "let try this and see what the heck it is!!" IT IS DEFINITELY WORTH IT.
Oh I hope the android devs aren't leaving Blackstone behind and just fucus on Leo... I would have to buy a Leo just for that reason then

mickeystar said:
Also can you give me a link about which android to use e.g. ecliar or frosty?
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1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7294275&postcount=1
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2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732362&page=98
thats how u get it going at least. works ok for me.

mo976 said:
After seeing WP7 in use and trying android on my HD I have decided that there only is one real choice and that is Android on my next phone!
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sage words, sir.
Just got home from giving my HD7 back - faulty device and a reasonably long list of unforgiveable omissions from MS which has meant my final residual warmth for MS has been expunged. Android 2.3 sounds like the business, and the Nexus S looks like the one to run it on, when it's out (shame the galaxy S doesn't have a flash - odd oversight!).
Until then, i guess i'll either
1. live with the latest feature-rich but hardware-overloading energy ROM, or
2. flash down to some combination of speed and features which works on the HD, or
3. dual boot to android, try to iron out the kins and live without a camera.
Vive the linux!

dez93_2000 said:
Until then, i guess i'll either
1. live with the latest feature-rich but hardware-overloading energy ROM, or
2. flash down to some combination of speed and features which works on the HD, or
3. dual boot to android, try to iron out the kins and live without a camera.
Vive the linux!
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no offense to Energy but KWBR's ROMs are far ahead for a daily use.

[Q] Windows mobile on ZTE Blade

Hi guys!
I want to run Windows Mobile operating system on my ZTE Blade.
It is posible?
Thaks for any reply.

yeh i think it would be cool
Sent from my ZTE-U V880 using XDA App

Any idea? :/

tothbence said:
Any idea? :/
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noo. No android phone has got a WM port.. it isn't open source. i would be grateful with android. i think my WM days are coming to an end... Itd driving me nuts!

BTW, why do you want Windows Mobile, any particular reason?

digital0 said:
BTW, why do you want Windows Mobile, any particular reason?
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I'm not the OP but i believe i may be able to answer that. First of all, for someone who has been using Windows mobile, using pim backup or other backup tools it is easy to transfer not just our contacts but also our pms from one WM device to another. For some, it may not be important but for others it is.
Another reason is that in a new WM device we can install the same apps we had in our previous device and learn quite easily how to use it.
Battery life is also a factor. To the best of my knowledge, android uses the battery much faster than WM.
You may ask, since i like WM so much, why do i post in this forum. It is because people who do have android keep telling me how good it is so i'm considering buying ZET Blade as a cheap way to try out android without crying over it if it turns out i don't like it. However, i would like to see the things i mentioned above being seen to

leocrow said:
I'm not the OP but i believe i may be able to answer that. First of all, for someone who has been using Windows mobile, using pim backup or other backup tools it is easy to transfer not just our contacts but also our pms from one WM device to another. For some, it may not be important but for others it is.
Another reason is that in a new WM device we can install the same apps we had in our previous device and learn quite easily how to use it.
Battery life is also a factor. To the best of my knowledge, android uses the battery much faster than WM.
You may ask, since i like WM so much, why do i post in this forum. It is because people who do have android keep telling me how good it is so i'm considering buying ZET Blade as a cheap way to try out android without crying over it if it turns out i don't like it. However, i would like to see the things i mentioned above being seen to
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Make the switch to android. i was a hardcore wm fan like you. i bought a zte blade to test android. it is amazing! so i got a galaxy tab a week later. from now on my next primary phne will be android from now on

Everyone who has ever used android says so but why? What makes it so good? And why did you change the blade within one week? is it not good?

leocrow said:
Everyone who has ever used android says so but why? What makes it so good? And why did you change the blade within one week? is it not good?
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Try it our yourselff... it has so many apps potential development, we switch from the blades software, because it comes with lots of carrier and manufacture bloatware

Well, at least in Greece (where I live) carriers are forbidden to lock the devices to their networks, so they don't bother to put too much bloatware in them either. However, i take it would you suggest another device as a first and cheap android phone? If so, what would it be? And since i'm affraid i have derailed the topic, please pm me your answer, because this is probably off-topic

leocrow said:
Well, at least in Greece (where I live) carriers are forbidden to lock the devices to their networks, so they don't bother to put too much bloatware in them either. However, i take it would you suggest another device as a first and cheap android phone? If so, what would it be? And since i'm affraid i have derailed the topic, please pm me your answer, because this is probably off-topic
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Well in uk they have a orange branded one with lots of crapware and it is slow. NO!!! This should defo be your first android phone! It has specs to rival most phones in today markets such as the nexus one! Read the reviews!
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as i was a hard winmo user with my hd2 i switch it completely to Android and i m happy so far.
For me it is much better than winmo more fast and stable and no need to reboot after install uninstall.
As for the apps there are so many that i can guarantee that most users will say bye bye to winmo...

A quick question if you may, zte blade with an LCD screen and 256 ram (that's the version they have in greece) or samsung galaxy 3 (i5800) at the exact same price, 159 euros ans as far as i can see the same characteristics

They can be unlocked to 512 RAM if you're comfortable with that sort of thing.

leocrow said:
Everyone who has ever used android says so but why? What makes it so good? And why did you change the blade within one week? is it not good?
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He did not change, he got galaxy tab, which is not a phone AFAIK, it's like iPad.

digital0 said:
He did not change, he got galaxy tab, which is not a phone AFAIK, it's like iPad.
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True, the SGT is lile an ipad, but ot is still a fully capable android phone/tablet. i still have my san francisco. i bought the tab because i wanted the android experience in a bigger package.

leocrow said:
A quick question if you may, zte blade with an LCD screen and 256 ram (that's the version they have in greece) or samsung galaxy 3 (i5800) at the exact same price, 159 euros ans as far as i can see the same characteristics
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Get the blade. It has superior hardware and a clean, bloatfree android.
Sent from my HD2 running Gingerbread

ZekeWolf said:
Get the blade. It has superior hardware and a clean, bloatfree android.
Sent from my HD2 running Gingerbread
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Yeh or if you want a dual boot get the hd2
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leocrow said:
Battery life is also a factor. To the best of my knowledge, android uses the battery much faster than WM.
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Not winding up anyone, but I'd be interested in anything - even quasi- scientific proving this statement.

leocrow said:
A quick question if you may, zte blade with an LCD screen and 256 ram (that's the version they have in greece) or samsung galaxy 3 (i5800) at the exact same price, 159 euros ans as far as i can see the same characteristics
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Ha-ha-ha! Exactly the same spec! Let's just start with the screen resolution, which is exactly 1/2 of the Blade's.
Right now, there's just no other Android device at a similar price point to match (even the LCD) ZTE Blade specifications

[Q] Huawei Ideos X5.

Hi!
Im just thinking about a own forum for Ideos X5. Its a great phone with really good specs for a low price. Its like the Zte blade but twice as good. It's also good for root because of the vanilla rom. So what do you people think?(Hope you understand, im not from a english speaking country)
//Isak

I completely second this. I'm getting mine this week and I'd love it if the phone had some xda support.
I know this phone is getting quite popular in the non american regions and might get more popular due to the amazing pricing.
Please give us a forum \o/

Yes! Would love a forum. Getting mine soon, looks amazing for the price.
Can't wait for some rom love - Time to replace my mytouch 3g. If this phone came out in the US I think we would be seeing a lot more dev support for it.

Yeah Its a amazing phone for an amazing price If it just come out some good roots and it would be more awesome

Yes! We need a Forum for it!

My friend just bought one of these and it looks pretty sweet, especially for the low price. hopefully it gets a forum and some attention from XDA Devs

These are great value in Australia really cheap. $299 outright from Crazy Johns. Will probably pick one up soon. Really want a gingerbread ROM for it though, please create a section.

Yes, would like to see a forum for it too - it's quite a bit cheaper than equivalent phones.

Yes, forum please.

I bought one yesterday, here in Western Australia.
Been using it for several hours now total and so far have NOT been able to find any menu items for wi-fi tethering.
This post is coming using USB Tethering which worked right out of the box. Tethered to an Asus EEE 701 Netbook running Ubuntu Linux 10.04.
So, if I can't find wi-fi tethering menu item, I'll need to get root access and install barnacle again.
Compared to my Sony Ericsson X8, that I've had since late last year, it's blindingly fast! The big screen is nice too!
So yes, I'm all in favour of a dedicated forum ... I reckon that the Ideos X5 is going to be a big seller, at least here in Australia where I paid $349 for an unlocked, unbranded (vanilla rom) with version 2.2.1 rom.
Trev

Wait I thought x5 wasn't out yet....or is that just in America?
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I got one last week and it is a great phone

I agree, this phone definitely needs its own forum. I got an Ideos X5 or u8800 a few days ago and it is just awesome. This is my first 'real' smartphone as I just upgraded from an n73 haha. I'm really excited about getting a 2.3 rom (and SetCPU ) onto my phone and I would be glad to contribute in any way I can.

There is another thread requesting the same thing (U8800 = X5)
that is, forum plx :]
Own section for Huawei U8800? ( 1 2 3)
Originally Posted By: fjevel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928727
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+1 for own forum section.
I've had this phone a few weeks, I like it so far. Some minor things that I'd like to try to change, but I've been waiting for CM recovery before that. I mailed the ROM Manager creator if I could help him on March 8th, but no reply yet.
Edit: Looks like there's a guide on how to port the CM recovery for new devices: google "porting-clockwork-recovery-to-new.html". I think I might try this some day if someone else doesn't port it before that

ksatta said:
+1 for own forum section.
I've had this phone a few weeks, I like it so far. Some minor things that I'd like to try to change, but I've been waiting for CM recovery before that. I mailed the ROM Manager creator if I could help him on March 8th, but no reply yet.
Edit: Looks like there's a guide on how to port the CM recovery for new devices: google "porting-clockwork-recovery-to-new.html". I think I might try this some day if someone else doesn't port it before that
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Hope you get an answer Would be awesome if you tried it out and then post here how it worked

That U8800 thread has much more in the way of tips and useful info. While we wait for a forum dedicated to our Ideos X5 / U8800 phone, I suggest that we post any tips, info etc into THAT thread.
For example, I'll be copying my observation of the wifi tethering "gotcha" to that thread, now that I know it exists (thanks lyfkevin!).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928727&page=3

trevh said:
I bought one yesterday, here in Western Australia.
Been using it for several hours now total and so far have NOT been able to find any menu items for wi-fi tethering.
This post is coming using USB Tethering which worked right out of the box. Tethered to an Asus EEE 701 Netbook running Ubuntu Linux 10.04.
So, if I can't find wi-fi tethering menu item, I'll need to get root access and install barnacle again.
Compared to my Sony Ericsson X8, that I've had since late last year, it's blindingly fast! The big screen is nice too!
So yes, I'm all in favour of a dedicated forum ... I reckon that the Ideos X5 is going to be a big seller, at least here in Australia where I paid $349 for an unlocked, unbranded (vanilla rom) with version 2.2.1 rom.
Trev
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Wow. I'm interested in this phone too ... since you already own one, does it run stock Android?
Really think we need a forum for this phone!

I'm not sure of your definition of "stock Android", Jubei71 but when I said "vanilla rom" I meant that it has a standard version of Android without phone carrier branding, shortcuts etc. For example, when it boots it just shows the Huawei logo.
It has "Swype" technology for the on-screen touch keyboard that I believe is a propriotory, non Google prodcut but I presume that Huawei simply pay for the rights to include it in this rom. And I found that I don't need to use Swype if I don't want too, "normal" hunt-and-peck key taps work just fine too.
I've installed plenty of stuff from the Google Market (Google and non Google) and it all works with no problems, although a You Tube link from one of my emails crashed the phone very soon after playback began. I had to power it down then re-start to regain control. I'm still checking but that email link may have been malicious or it may have been a "Adobe Flash 10" compatibility problem.
If my Ideos X5 proves to have unlocked Nand write and boot process (evidence so far suggests that it MAY be), I'll love it to death because then we'll be able to install our own "non-stock" , super-go-fast rom eventually!

+1 from me to
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[Q] Android on DVP

Would it be possible to load Android onto the Dell Venue Pro? I got issued one by my company, and would prefer Android 2.2/2.3 to WP7...

then buy an android device...
y know like the dell streak...

domineus said:
then buy an android device...
y know like the dell streak...
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Let the xda-dev happen...please do not kill the thread. This is the forum where we can meet and get what we think is the best of all worlds..tweaks/roots.

sahuja said:
Let the xda-dev happen...please do not kill the thread. This is the forum where we can meet and get what we think is the best of all worlds..tweaks/roots.
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oh by all means please Please do that. You know first getting access to root commands which we haven't, find an ability to change the spl (which we haven't) and finally porting android to windows phone 7 through something not named haret...
oh yes but I'm killing the thread.
Let's be realistic. If you want an android device, get an android device. Get an HD2, but what's ruining the thread?
Users asking when can I get android like xda is waiting forever to serve your android needs.
Take my advice, get a device that runs android if you don't want the dell

SoulREX said:
Would it be possible to load Android onto the Dell Venue Pro? I got issued one by my company, and would prefer Android 2.2/2.3 to WP7...
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Perhaps when the Dell Venue comes out it may be possible, since both devices should have very similar hardware.

maybe you missed the part where he said he was issued one by his company?

PolishDude said:
maybe you missed the part where he said he was issued one by his company?
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maybe you missed the part that included selling it and getting a droid...

how nice... my post was randomly deleted for no reason.
Yay for overzealous mods?

I think if HTC HD2 (an android device) can be loaded with WP7, it's quite likely a WP7 device can be loaded with android.

HD2 is WM6.5

No, hd2 is with android, linux, meego, wm6 and wp7
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I for one would love to see a dual boot DVP, WP7 and Android.
Yeah, I have an Android phone (actually 2), and I love it, but I've also been playing with WP7 and it's great too. I actually have a DVP on order.
The big thing for me though is the hardware.
The DVP is a BEAUTIFUL phone, and I love the form factor. There's nothing else like it.
I think the next closest phone would be the BB Torch (outdated crap and no AWS), the Pre series (crap that HP will kill, also no AWS), or the Moto Spice (POS Android 2.1 with locked Bootloader)
I know it's not possible right now and I'll fully enjoy my DVP when it arrives.
I'm hoping that someone will be able to crack the DVP (wasn't GeoHot supposed to do it at Pwn2Own?) and since the Android Venue is supposed to be more-or-less the same hardware (minus the sweet keyboard), hopefully it will be possible eventually.

I own a Galaxy Tab and would second this since someone brought it up. Before my Tab I was actually eagerly awaiting the DVP, mainly for its build quality and portrait slide-out QWERTY. Didn't get it in the end cos of the teething WP7 issues, and also because it wasn't even launched in my country till today; but I would have disregarded warranty issues and imported it if WP7 didn't have all those issues.
After using Android I realised it fit my usage pattern much better, but I'm still pining after the hardware of the DVP. Would be great to have the best of both worlds.

What is it with people getting defensive about the idea of having a Dell Venue Pro running Android? I had a Touch Pro 2 that ran Android, the HD2 runs Android and HD7, Sure I can always buy an Android device (which I do, I own a Droid Pro and a Nexus One) but the hardware on the Dell Venue Pro is probably some of the best I've had (Returned the phone after a few weeks due to it being WP7)

I've started a Bounty on Android on the DVP here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13920817#post13920817
Please, contribute if you can!

Yes, I also don't get why some people mind. I do own HTC Desire Z wich is great, but wow, the DVP is stunning! I love the way it looks and feels in the hand, and shockingly the keyboard is the best I've seen, even better than Desire Z's one. (shock)
There's nothing like it on the market, but WM7 is a deal breaker. That's why if someone ports Android on DVP, I sell my Desire Z in a heartbeat and go buy a Venue Pro!
So please, someone, do it!

Anyone try the rooting technique for the venue on a venue pro yet..? I may when my replacement for this one comes. I have been playing with some Droid ROMs, and funniest thing things is lots of these Droid ROMs remind me of the Energy ROM with HTC sense on WM6.5.. so if I can get Droid on my DVP, I may ditch WM7 until Mango update.
Sent from my Venue Pro using Board Express

Why would a root exploit for android do anything to wp7? And how would you run it? All the root methods I'm familiar with are either all's (z4root, gingerbreak, etc) or require adb (superoneclick or manual methods), neither of which has anything to do with wp7
Sent from my Dell Streak running StreakDroid 1.9 by D.J. Steve

Not owning a Droid phone wasn't sure if you could get the DVP to "connect to pc" screen and then run some kind of technique to install android on top.. I stopped hacking and generally screwing with my phones when is went from WM to WP
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can someone have a laugh and try holding down vol up and connecting usb cable to dvp while its turned off- and the same with volume down see if computer sees anything show up - anyone who owns a streak5 will know why i ask it

ZTE Open C worth buying?

Hi everyone.
Just recently I have decided to move away from Google services. I want to drop everything to do with Google because I find them rather overbearing - they seem to think that they are the entire Internet and everything in it! So I am tempted to move to a Firefox OS phone. There is a ZTE Open C on Amazon in my country for 36 pounds. Is this worth it and will it be able to run OS 2.1?
I currently have an ancient Nexus S which I still love so I am not after blazing fast performance - I just want a basic smartphone that is free from Google. I have recently made the switch from Windows to Ubuntu too - I just love the opensource ethos!
Thanks.

Warren_Orange said:
Hi everyone.
Just recently I have decided to move away from Google services. I want to drop everything to do with Google because I find them rather overbearing - they seem to think that they are the entire Internet and everything in it! So I am tempted to move to a Firefox OS phone. There is a ZTE Open C on Amazon in my country for 36 pounds. Is this worth it and will it be able to run OS 2.1?
I currently have an ancient Nexus S which I still love so I am not after blazing fast performance - I just want a basic smartphone that is free from Google. I have recently made the switch from Windows to Ubuntu too - I just love the opensource ethos!
Thanks.
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as a previous user of the nexus s i can say that you will like this phone as a current user of firefox OS 2.2 on the ZTE Open C it works if u build it which isnt hard at all the biggest thing im running into is building older versions? weird i know but the release of Offical builds is all up to ZTE unfortunatly and i dont know much about them but i took it into my own hands and am building it my self
as a basic smart phone it works well though truthfully android has more options FxOS is still very early think Froyo-Gingerbread lifespan thats my opinion of course but it it is moving quickly

Hi.
So it is capable of running more recent versions of Firefox OS then? Can you explain to me what you mean when you say that you are 'building' the OS.
Have ZTE supported this phone after version 1.3?
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the official stock rom wont be updated anymore by zte, CMIIW latest version was 1.4
u can use custom rom mod by YemSalat , it is version 2.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/firefox-os/general/zte-c-2-1-modui-t2853315
i like his build , no problem at all

Great. I think I will order it today.
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Or you can use this guide to flash your device with new Firefox OS builds (from the french mozilla community)
http://builds.firefoxos.mozfr.org/doc/en/devices/zte-open-c-eu