[Q] back softkey - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

I wonder if there could be a softkey included in every menu. Like in iPhone. I want my hard keyboard to live longer. It would also be easier to use. But I don't know if it existst or is even possible, thats why I post it here at xda hoping on some good news. And maybe also an action button to get menu options. Would be so great.

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Anyone? I dont like quickdesk, i really need a kind of back and home button but not hardware, a toolbar

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configure optical button

Is there a way to configure the optical button on the htc incredible so that clicking it wakes the phone up (like pressing the top button)? I'm looking for functionality thats a little bit similar to how the iphone wakes up since I find that button at the bottom much more accessible than the button on the top.
id be interested in this as well. The top button isnt very intuitive to me
Search the market for "lock screen" or "lockscreen" or just "lock" (or maybe "button"? I thought there was a button switcher app too).
Many of the 3rd party lock apps will bring up the lock screen by pressing one or more of the physical buttons (volume, camera, etc). I bet at least one of them comes on with the optical button.
it has been done on the nexus one with the trackball. i think you need root access or at lease custom rom.
Ok, I found this.
http://androidforums.com/htc-incredible/69443-using-optical-trackpad-button-wake-phone.html
Try the "lockbot" app. It is probably about all that is available right now, but the Incredible will be extremely popular. There will be more hacks/tweaks/apps/whatever for this device than any to date, I suspect.
Humpa said:
Ok, I found this.
http://androidforums.com/htc-incredible/69443-using-optical-trackpad-button-wake-phone.html
Try the "lockbot" app. It is probably about all that is available right now, but the Incredible will be extremely popular. There will be more hacks/tweaks/apps/whatever for this device than any to date, I suspect.
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Thanks for the heads up. And I agree I think we are going to see a whole new level of geek with this phone
"myLock" in advance mode.
Great app, and thank you for the info. I was looking the same solution.
Mylock works great. Although I did have one occurence of it locking up the phone.
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daftlush said:
"myLock" in advance mode.
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Are you talking about the app called myLock auto unlock? I am not finding an advanced mode or way to get in advanced mode. Care to explain a little more? and this is able to make it so you can use the trackpad to wake/unlock the phone?
NoLock works for this as well but I wish there was a way to allow the optical pad to work without allowing the volume buttons to work at the same time.
Tried myLock just now and both seem like good apps.
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Thanks for the heads up. And I agree I think we are going to see a whole new level of geek with this phone
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just wondering why you sport the "Big Black" avatar?
And to those who think im being racist by calling him "Big Black", its his name on the Reality TV show with rob dyrdeck.

HD2 hard buttons alternative

Hi,
As we all aware of the frequent usage of home/back/settings buttons requirement when using android os. The issue with the hd2 being the case that these buttons are mechanical. Over the time it is certain that these buttons(especially on hd2) will become loose. I was just wondering if there is any solution for this. I remember seeing that Droidx has a built in soft button toolbar which pops up as required. If that is the case, is there a package/app available for hd2 that makes this possible? Any ideas or suggestions are welcome.
Thanks.
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I'm using Smart Taskbar as an alternative. Serves me well so far. Download from Market.
The smart taskbar is great, except that i wish it also had the back button and settings button action built into it. Do you know of any apps that simulates those actions?
Thanks though,
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Havn't come across any so far... you can customise and add the Settings app into the Quick Launch List. No back button alt though.

[Q] Is there any way to bring up the Softkeyboard with a softkey?

Hi everybody,
Does anyone know a Method to bring up the softkeyboard with a longpress on the back key? Normally it would be done by longpressing the menukey, since the gs2 doesn't have one i'd love to bring up the keyboard, for eexample with a long press on the back key.
Thanks for some answers
DDeluxe
+1
I'd like to hide it. Do a web search and follow a link. Then get annoyed at how small the window is
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ddeluxe said:
Hi everybody,
Does anyone know a Method to bring up the softkeyboard with a longpress on the back key? Normally it would be done by longpressing the menukey, since the gs2 doesn't have one i'd love to bring up the keyboard, for eexample with a long press on the back key.
Thanks for some answers
DDeluxe
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Your phone doesn't have the menu key? How is that possible. Also it should bring up the soft keyboard I think.
RogerPodacter said:
Your phone doesn't have the menu key? How is that possible. Also it should bring up the soft keyboard I think.
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I think he meant long pressing menu brings up search because there is no dedicated search button.
I'd be interested in a solution for this as well.
I'm inclined to think there is a way to make long press back bring up the KB for rooted devices only, and might already exist from SGS1 complaints. Samsung took a page from Apple, by which I mean they made a form over function compromise.
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slice77 said:
I think he meant long pressing menu brings up search because there is no dedicated search button.
I'd be interested in a solution for this as well.
I'm inclined to think there is a way to make long press back bring up the KB for rooted devices only, and might already exist from SGS1 complaints. Samsung took a page from Apple, by which I mean they made a form over function compromise.
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Don't take this the wrong way, but I don't get how they made a form over function compromise like you said.
Unless I am missing something, I am assuming there is a field to type in whenever someone needs the keyboard. so what exactly would be the need for a long press on the back button, if you can just touch the field which brings the keyboard up?
Can someone explain to me if I missed something?
Sorry i ment that the galaxy s 2 doesnt have a dedicated searchbutton. Samsung decided to use a longpress on the menubutton as the searchbutton, so you cannot bring up the keyboard with the longpress menubutton. Sorry for the confusion!
And now an explenation for the question "why would you need it?":
If I want to play a HTML5 or a flash game within the Browser, where a keyboard (or only the arrowkeys) is needed, i can't bring it up without the "longpress menukbutton"...

Multitasking idea

Hi,
I was going to post this in one of the kernel threads but thought maybe it'd be interesting to more people. We've seen a few mods changing the navigation key behaviour (s2l l2h and what not). I previously suggested implementing the nexus layout into the htc using the logo as I'm a fan of having a recent apps key and I think others will like it too. However I think a better solution would be to re program the home key (or maybe the back key since home key uses google now) so that when you swipe up it opens the recent apps. I know it'd only save half a second but would make this more fluid than having to double tap. I'm not a developer but I'm just giving my idea. I thought it might be easy to do as well since it's already done with the home key swiping up to google now, so the same code can just be copied to the back key?
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So, what do you guys think? If its easily doable I think this will be popular and could be a standard feature in most roms (or kernels?) , like the 3-dot menu removal and such.
(Also, was having a hard time answering the 'is this a question', its more of a suggestion but I could be wrong so sorry
I use the logo for recent apps on my GPe One.
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How? Link? That's an ok idea though I don't like how it's not really the logo we touch it's the bottom of the screen, I always hit too high or too low.
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You can configure the buttons in ViperOne. I have long press home set to open recent apps. I also use LMT launcher as a menu button, and it also has a button to jump to my last used app. Its awesome for multitasking.
FangorX said:
You can configure the buttons in ViperOne. I have long press home set to open recent apps. I also use LMT launcher as a menu button, and it also has a button to jump to my last used app. Its awesome for multitasking.
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Thats cool I didn't know that. Although ViperOne is too unstock for my liking lol
3alaawi said:
How? Link? That's an ok idea though I don't like how it's not really the logo we touch it's the bottom of the screen, I always hit too high or too low.
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It's definitely not a perfect solution, and I'm still REALLY MAD at HTC for ruining what would have been the perfect android device, but it's better than nothing.
I flash a kernel tha offers logo2menu and go into system\usr\keylayout and change the bindings and reboot. Obviously requires root.
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It's definitely not a perfect solution, and I'm still REALLY MAD at HTC for ruining what would have been the perfect android device, but it's better than nothing.
I flash a kernel tha offers logo2menu and go into system\usr\keylayout and change the bindings and reboot. Obviously requires root.
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May i know which file under /system/usr/keylayout did u edit? Is it synaptics-rmi-touchscreen.kl?
This is the content for the file
Code:
key 102 HOME
key 158 BACK
key 139 MENU VIRTUAL
I would like to change the HTC logo to multitasking, but im not sure what to change key 139 to.
Any insight on this would be helpful.
Update: figured it out!
for anyone interested in doing this, here's how you do it.
Just modify key 139 to this
Code:
key 139 APP_SWITCH WAKE_DROPPED
Hi
Is it possible to change the home swipe up config or the long press home? I have rooted and custom kernel but any way to do so by file editing?
Thanks
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[WHINE] – Why a hardkey instead of softkey for “home” button

I don't like the hardkey. It feels different to press than a softkey. It takes longer to press and takes me out of my rythm. Therefore I tend not to use it as much (have built some alternate shortcut gestures into my launcher and my Notification Toggle setup).
Also from what I have seen softkeys last longer than hardkeys... the softkeys have no mechanical parts to wear out.
The whole thing bugs me, but I think I'd feel better if I understood WHY this design decision was made...
So can anyone explain the ADVANTAGES of having a hardkey home button?
electricpete1 said:
I don't like the hardkey. It feels different to press than a softkey. It takes longer to press and takes me out of my rythm. Therefore I tend not to use it as much (have built some alternate shortcut gestures into my launcher and my Notification Toggle setup).
Also from what I have seen softkeys last longer than hardkeys... the softkeys have no mechanical parts to wear out.
The whole thing bugs me, but I think I'd feel better if I understood WHY this design decision was made...
So can anyone explain the ADVANTAGES of having a hardkey home button?
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I prefer a hard key for the exact opposite of what you said.
BTW, why do you own a S4 ???
The day I cant buy an Android phone with a real home button will be the day Ill switch to something else.
Switching from the straight talk galaxy S2 to the S4 took me a bit to get use to as the S2 didn't have a hard key.... but I like the hard key better.... I think its more of a personal preference than anything
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I miss the HTC Amaze.. Power, camera, and volume were the only buttons on the phone.
I miss the smooth glass home button at the bottom of the screen between the menu and back buttons
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Softkey takes screen real estate, but, will relocate landscape to portrait. When a major crash occurs softkey will not work. Softkey is more suscptable to accidental presses.
Hardkey has a completely different tactile feel.
This is one of many reasons why I prefer Samsung to Nexus. Each to their own.
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I love being able to wake the screen with the menu button. This is much easier when using a case.
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First of all, welcome to the late party.
Second, I hated the hard key also.
Now though, I love the fact that I can "feel" the key without looking for it.
Guess I'd rather have a capacitive key still, but it would need to be a raised button that I can "feel".
Didn't we do this thread like nine months ago?
About fourteen times, back to back threads?
I like the hard key as well. I can turn on the phone using it
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bennyboy78 said:
I like the hard key as well. I can turn on the phone using it
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It's amazing how there is no one feature that can please everyone.
I actually have that option disabled on my phone.
Drives me nuts because everytime I pick up my phone, I'd accidentally press that button and the phone would turn on. Or when I wipe down my screen, I'd hit that button and with the next wipe, I'd unlock my phone and inadvertently open an app or something. hahah
CZ Eddie said:
Didn't we do this thread like nine months ago?
About fourteen times, back to back threads?
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Unfortunately, that's about 90% of the threads in this particular forum now.
My bad. I'm new to S4. I didn't search but got the whim to express some frustration in what I thought would be a light-hearted conversational thread. Not the best decision in retrospect. Next time I'll do that on the Off-topic Cafe thread when I get that urge.
I think a big plus of using both a hard key and the touch sensitive keys (I really dislike the soft keys taking screen real estate, if they disappeared for full screen applications, I'd be more supportive – but I digress) is just being able to feel where the touch sensitive keys are without having to look at the phone. Long live the hard key

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