Hi there
I successfully backed up my 64mb xda I unlocked it successfully. Only problem is that during the process I ended up having to do a hard reset. Now I'm trying to restore the SD backup and the process keeps ending without finishing.
The sd backup file is 55 megs, and it seems that after a hard reset there is not enough memory available to restore the backup - Is it just me or is this situation not completely daft.
I've also had grief with activesync - it keeps on saying device unrecognised, and makes me "disconnect the port" I've even tried downloading activesync 3.6 in case it fixes the problem.
I havent changed the default "device name" either on the xda.
I'm beginning to wish I hadnt done this... can anyone offer any advice on how to restore such a large backup file, why does it need so much memory to achieve this.
And more imporantly, why do O2/microsoft provide a backup program which wont restore properly!
Help!!!
I've done a few tests, since my last posting - and I can only presume that if you install a lot of software and or registry tweaks (like the low battery fix) then perhaps the whole 64 megs of memory is downloaded.
Using the memory management slider it is impossible to achieve the 55megs I need to restore the backup
On my xda after being "wiped" a backup does work,
as long as it is "not too large" e.g. smaller than about 43 megs
it seems that the SD restore program needs too much operating overhead to restore a large file such as my previous pre-unlock sd backup of 55megs...
Anyone else tried this?
Hopefully I can resynch all the contacts and calendar again, using the cradle and activesync and obviously all the downloaded software can be re-installed.
Hi Guys,
The strangest thing just happened. I'm on panic right now.
I left the phone unattended for a couple of hours today and when I came back I notice that the start menu was EMPTY, and when I say empty I mean completely empty.
So I soft-reset the device and is still the same. So I plug the phone with the PC and browse the device over ActiveSync and
ALL THE FILES ARE GONE FROM THE MEMORY, STORAGE AND SD CARD.
All the folders are still there, but they are empty. Only the files are gone!
I had a back-up of everything but the STORAGE (big-storage mod). Does anyone any idea on how to recover the files? Is this possible?
I tried to search on the forums, and I couldn't find anything on this.
I don't know if this might be related but a week ago I upgraded the ROM and used the BIG Storage mod.
My phone details are
Qtek S100
ROM: 1.13.00 WWE
Radio: 1.13.00
Any advice is welcome.
Thanks!
I'm guessing this means you don't use a backup program? It sounds like you'll have to hard reset the phone to recover to a basic startup condition. As for the card you can probably recover all that is on it using an inexpensive recovery program such as Photo Rescue(yes it recovers more than just photos). I've used Photo Rescue to recover a couple of different cards to my computer and then retransfer the information to my phone. Try the trial version at http://www.datarescue.com/photorescue/download.htm There are other programs that will recover your card, just Google file recovery and try a couple.
If you are using a backup program on your card, hard reset the phone and use a file explorer to start your backup program. I sometimes have to run my backup twice to get everything back as it should be.
I'm guessing this means you don't use a backup program? It sounds like you'll have to hard reset the phone to recover to a basic startup condition. As for the card you can probably recover all that is on it using an inexpensive recovery program such as Photo Rescue(yes it recovers more than just photos). I've used Photo Rescue to recover a couple of different cards to my computer and then retransfer the information to my phone. Try the trial version at http://www.datarescue.com/photorescue/download.htm There are other programs that will recover your card, just Google file recovery and try a couple.
If you are using a backup program on your card, hard reset the phone and use a file explorer to start your backup program. I sometimes have to run my backup twice to get everything back as it should be.
Was there some kind of not properly licensed software installed?
I'm guessing this means you don't use a backup program?
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I was using Sprite Backup, but turned out that by default it won't backup the contents of the Storage folder. I changed the settings and from now and go on it will do ;-)
As for the card you can probably recover all that is on it using an inexpensive recovery program such as Photo Rescue
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I already recovered all my data from the SD card using OnTrack Easy Recovery Pro. Great and powerful soft.
Was there some kind of not properly licensed software installed?
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To tell the truth the last soft I used was a new Sudoku game that I was "trying out" before purchasing. So this might have been the "killer"
Anyway, I had an old backup on some CD, so after a Hard Reset and some work, everything is back to normal now, or I hope so.
Thanks for the replies.
lol
i can tell you for sure it was that sudoku game you installed.. it waits till you play.. when you cleared one puzzle it crashes and deletes everything exept the folders.. even on your sd card..
That is the risk of downloading illegal stuff..
Greetzz
DvL
Funny, how can the data in storage(which is NAND ROM) gets erased by itself. I m hearing this for the first time in my life
It seemed some evil (not properly registered) software deleted all the files as "punishment". He was able to recover files with an undelete tool.
So you still have to wait for NAND ROM forget its data for the first time
Ok, I am exchanging my phone tommorrrow because.... well I should do it at least once... LOL, no just some issues... but seriously I am using spb backup and I want to know does this program save everthing and then I will be able to load my programs and files onto my computer when I am done and then load my phone with the same programs and what have you...
sorry I am a noob and don't want to screww this up...
christian15213 said:
Ok, I am exchanging my phone tommorrrow because.... well I should do it at least once... LOL, no just some issues... but seriously I am using spb backup and I want to know does this program save everthing and then I will be able to load my programs and files onto my computer when I am done and then load my phone with the same programs and what have you...
sorry I am a noob and don't want to screww this up...
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in spb backup, you can selesct what you want to backup. if you want to backup your entire phone memory and microsd memory you can. you then specify the save location (specify microsd location) and its done after a few minutes.
when you receive your new pdaphone, just double click the cab file in the microsd and the restore process will begin. Just ensure that your new replacement has the same ROM as the one you have backed up from.
I'm a noob myself, but I will swear by this program. I have had to do a few hard resets with my TyTN and have loaded a specific back up day and voila...everything was great again.
I didn't notice that anything was missing. And heck...even if there was something missing, I didin't feel it.
Ok, but the memory on the microsd card? not the whole sd card right... but the stuff on the phone like any files and what have you that will sync correct... lastyly there isn't a cab file it is a WCE file. just making sure because that is what it made...
oh and one more thing... do you use the unpackage tool from the pc or just use the file on the micro device and place it in the new phone...
in spb backup, you can backup your entire phone with all the settings and apps etc as well as all your files on the microsd card.
spb backup should create a .cab file. to restore, you simply click that cab file and the restore process will begin
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in spb backup, you can backup your entire phone with all the settings and apps etc as well as all your files on the microsd card.
spb backup should create a .cab file. to restore, you simply click that cab file and the restore process will begin
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Maybe I am crazy but I don't think it does the cab thing... and the file it saved is only 15 megs big... I know my sd card has about 800 megs on it...
can't be that small of a back up could it?
nope, something is seriously wrong.
800mb cannot be compressed into 15megs
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nope, something is seriously wrong.
800mb cannot be compressed into 15megs
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lol lmao... I knew that sounded wierd as heck... but, I don't think it backs up the card. I think just the device onto the card. I don't think this backup program would back up a card because you would have to back it up through the pc... that is not what this does.
my version of spb backup backs up all files - phone mem and sdcard, and places the cab file on he sd card.
not sure which version you have, mine is the latest
how could it compress the file of the storage card and place it on there. If I have a gig card and have used 900 megs... what size file would this possibly create to back up the card and the device. 900 megs is a lot. I am thinking minimum I dunno 300 megs. perhaps 600 megs. Where would this posibbly go to. not the storage device. SPB backup?
OH GEEZ/... I appologize... I am MORON... I was using the full backup selection ASSuMING it meant full back up including card. LOL... NOPE.. you have to choose custom... ahhh so silly.
now I have to remove the musica on the card... but really right now i don't need to deal with the card huh...
also... do you use WMP sync with WMP 11 on the pc... I need to reset my sync... I will post to my other thread so you can see what I mean... it will be at the top.
I have never successfully restored a phone with any of the backup programs availible.
They always miss something (like owner configuration, phone config, e-mail settings and so on..)
i have always done full backup included the sd-card. My reason for doing this was that I were the projectleader for buying and configuring 10 Hermes phones to my Boss's that would look the same, and then be able to restore everything in a flash..
although, this didn't work very good, i went fine as long as I used the backup on my phone, but when trying it on another phone (same model, same rom etc. ) some things would be restored and some weren't
so , just be careful, it might not go well, but then again , it might go very well.
I've never understood the logic behind SPB Backup. From what I understand, it's supposedly possible to back up the entire device, including the SD card, however, from the trial version that I used, it was not possible to save this file on the PC when connected with ActiveSync. So the problem is, if one has a full storage card, and wants to back up their entire device including the storage card, where could the output backup file be stored?
I use SPB Backup and I dont know why I would want to include my storage card in the backup. If I want to back up my storage card I just put it in a cardreader or use sync and copy the entire card over to a directory on my computer. If your device crashes or you just need to do a hard reset, programs installed on your storage card will not be effected. If you have a backup that works, all you need to do is restore from that file. Any program that was installed on your storage card will work fine as ong as you still have the card in your device.
Worked flawlesly... Thanks so much... but I think the card back up is just smarter to just put the whole card on the computer then take it back off...
christian15213 said:
Worked flawlesly... Thanks so much... but I think the card back up is just smarter to just put the whole card on the computer then take it back off...
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glad to see you got it working
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I use SPB Backup and I dont know why I would want to include my storage card in the backup. If I want to back up my storage card I just put it in a cardreader or use sync and copy the entire card over to a directory on my computer. If your device crashes or you just need to do a hard reset, programs installed on your storage card will not be effected. If you have a backup that works, all you need to do is restore from that file. Any program that was installed on your storage card will work fine as ong as you still have the card in your device.
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This is true, but for the same reason, SPB is not a complete backup solution. Do you backup your storage card every time you back up your device internal memory? I have many files that I store on my storage card that are working files - that is, they change in content frequently. Included is an 80Mb SQL Mobile replicated database file. I have actually had a program corrupt my SD card at one point - such that I had to restore it (I did have a manual backup of this, but it was out of date).
At the moment, I still do SD card backups manually anyway, and just use Activesync for incremental backups every time I connect, because it's basically the same as using SPB, and saves having to use a 3rd part program to swap and copy files.
When restoring from Activesync, all I need to do is a soft reset, do a forced refresh of PIM data (contacts, tasks, appointments) from the PC, and everything else is fine. The only thing I find necessary is, after a hard reset, to soft-reset my device on the first 'boot' before the 3 second auto-installation. I don't use a cooked ROM because the programs I like to have on my PPC change all of the time.
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Just to clarify for me as I am a noob to WM5 and HTC.
If I use SPB to backup EVERYTHING except my SD card (which I can manually backup whenever and often using a card reader and PC), I will have a single CAB file with all settings.
So if I do a Hard Reset and lose everything, then before the 3-sec auto installs from the service provider I do a Soft reset to stop those. Then I run the backup CAB file and supposedly everything will be back to the way it was...meaning all registry hacks, email accounts setup, user info, today screens, ringtones, and other installs like previously installed jars and other cabs I had before.
Is this an acurate description of the SPB program?
hi there.
Ive a 2 gig sd card and loads of stuff stored all over the place. if i download Windows Mobile 6, whats the best way to migrate everything? will the unit upgrade link win2k does to XP ?
Mark
No. Rom upgrades wipe the device clean. You will lose all files and programs on the device. Files stored on a memory card will still be there but any programs installed to a card may not function after the upgrade.
yup. And usually you need to perform a hard reset before your upgrade process. So, don't forget to backup all your important stuff.
Also, you might not want to restore your files from a wm5 back-up. I tried it and nothing worked correctly. Had to load each program and tweak from scratch so make note of any serial numbers you may have for your programs.
Hello,
I am looking for some advice with regard to a speciifc problem I have with my HD2 which is running Android from SD using haret.exe etc to start the system from within Windows Mobile 6.5. The android files are currently held on a 8GB sandisk card. I have prefered this method of using android basically because I find it useful to remove the SD card and create a backup of the files onto my PC, which gives me peace of mind before installing new tryout software, just incase something goes wrong, I know I have the option to go back to a working system very quickly by reloading the files back to the SD card from the PC backup.
Recently I have been thinking that it might be easier if I could backup the files using the phone directly, so I decided to buy a 16GB card in order to partition it into two virtual 8GB drives and load my existing android os files onto one partition, whilst using the second partition to save a backup of android. I thought I should be able to create a backup of android from within WM6.5 instead of having to remove the card and rely on a PC all the time to do this job.
So, using MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition, I formatted and partitioned the new 16GB SD card, I used FAT32 for each partition and proceeded to copy my android files to the first partition of the new card. I installed the card into my HD2 and started the phone up which booted into WM6.5
From within WM6.5, I used the file explorer and could see both partitions appearing as separate SD cards, the first containing all my android os files etc, and the second partition was empty of course. Just as a test I thought I would try a copy and paste of a couple of files from the android partition to the empty partition, and this worked just fine. I thought to myself I am onto a winner here : ) Read on....
With that I decided to boot into android by clicking on haret.exe.
The system started to boot as normal and everything appeared to be going very very well. Booting completed and the system was ready to use..... Then I thought I would have a look around and see if it was running ok. OH DEAR.... It was reporting that it couldn't find the SD card, even though it had booted from it ! All my files and folders inaccessible and any programs that had been moved to SD card wouldn't start up or were missing from the list of installed apps. I still cant understand why the system has booted from an SD card that it cannot find once the system has booted......
This whole excercise was basically motivated by the need to be able to backup and restore the system from one partition to the other without the constant need to remove the SD card and do the job from a PC. (Constant removal of the SD card is starting to bother me incase I end up wearing the card slot out)
So basically my question is can this be done using my existing android install? (I wouldn't want to start again and install from scratch because the system is highly customised, and has took me a long time to get where it is now) I want to be able to have two partitions on my SD card, one which boots, runs android and holds all my files associated with android, and a second parition which I can use to create and restore a backup from within WM6.5.
This is not a desperate requirement, but I feel it would be a lot better than needing to rely on having my PC to hand all the time. This idea has come from my longstanding history of creating backups using GHOST and similar applications in Windows XP. I would like to do the same with my phone. Obviously I would still periodically make a backup to the PC for safekeeping but it would be more convenient to do it with the phone itself.
Any advice on where I am going wrong would be very useful. Also if you can suggest any other ways of making a strong reliable backup that makes an image of 'EVERYTHING' as is from within android directly, please let me know. I have had a look at Titanium backup, but not sure if it would make a mirror image of 'EVERYTHING' the way I would like to do it (like Ghost does in windows). The way I am doing it at present works fine, except for having to constantly remove the card and rely on having a PC about.
Oh by the way the android version on my SD card is Froyo 2.2 incase this matters (I have never bothered upgrading because it works and does what I need it to do)
Many Thanks
Tony
Brookbond said:
Hello,
I am looking for some advice with regard to a speciifc problem I have with my HD2 which is running Android from SD using haret.exe etc to start the system from within Windows Mobile 6.5. The android files are currently held on a 8GB sandisk card. I have prefered this method of using android basically because I find it useful to remove the SD card and create a backup of the files onto my PC, which gives me peace of mind before installing new tryout software, just incase something goes wrong, I know I have the option to go back to a working system very quickly by reloading the files back to the SD card from the PC backup.
Recently I have been thinking that it might be easier if I could backup the files using the phone directly, so I decided to buy a 16GB card in order to partition it into two virtual 8GB drives and load my existing android os files onto one partition, whilst using the second partition to save a backup of android. I thought I should be able to create a backup of android from within WM6.5 instead of having to remove the card and rely on a PC all the time to do this job.
So, using MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition, I formatted and partitioned the new 16GB SD card, I used FAT32 for each partition and proceeded to copy my android files to the first partition of the new card. I installed the card into my HD2 and started the phone up which booted into WM6.5
From within WM6.5, I used the file explorer and could see both partitions appearing as separate SD cards, the first containing all my android os files etc, and the second partition was empty of course. Just as a test I thought I would try a copy and paste of a couple of files from the android partition to the empty partition, and this worked just fine. I thought to myself I am onto a winner here : ) Read on....
With that I decided to boot into android by clicking on haret.exe.
The system started to boot as normal and everything appeared to be going very very well. Booting completed and the system was ready to use..... Then I thought I would have a look around and see if it was running ok. OH DEAR.... It was reporting that it couldn't find the SD card, even though it had booted from it ! All my files and folders inaccessible and any programs that had been moved to SD card wouldn't start up or were missing from the list of installed apps. I still cant understand why the system has booted from an SD card that it cannot find once the system has booted......
This whole excercise was basically motivated by the need to be able to backup and restore the system from one partition to the other without the constant need to remove the SD card and do the job from a PC. (Constant removal of the SD card is starting to bother me incase I end up wearing the card slot out)
So basically my question is can this be done using my existing android install? (I wouldn't want to start again and install from scratch because the system is highly customised, and has took me a long time to get where it is now) I want to be able to have two partitions on my SD card, one which boots, runs android and holds all my files associated with android, and a second parition which I can use to create and restore a backup from within WM6.5.
This is not a desperate requirement, but I feel it would be a lot better than needing to rely on having my PC to hand all the time. This idea has come from my longstanding history of creating backups using GHOST and similar applications in Windows XP. I would like to do the same with my phone. Obviously I would still periodically make a backup to the PC for safekeeping but it would be more convenient to do it with the phone itself.
Any advice on where I am going wrong would be very useful. Also if you can suggest any other ways of making a strong reliable backup that makes an image of 'EVERYTHING' as is from within android directly, please let me know. I have had a look at Titanium backup, but not sure if it would make a mirror image of 'EVERYTHING' the way I would like to do it (like Ghost does in windows). The way I am doing it at present works fine, except for having to constantly remove the card and rely on having a PC about.
Oh by the way the android version on my SD card is Froyo 2.2 incase this matters (I have never bothered upgrading because it works and does what I need it to do)
Many Thanks
Tony
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Android looks at storage (and cards and file systems) differently. Assuming you created the partitions okay, you would have to use the Linux mount command (sorry, more reading).
A simpler way to accomplish your goal would be to have everything in one partition on the card. Create a folder and call it "Backup_Folder" or some other name meaningful to you. You will be able to copy/paste in Windows or Android.
Having said that you might want to read more about NAND installations when you have time. It would likely run better and give you more choices. Although a learning curve, once mastered it is as simple and safe as what you are now doing.
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