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I have successfully rooted and have done the lag fix. Surprisingly, all went very smoothly despite my lack of knowledge in this area. I haven't flashed any ROMs or changed anything, I've just done the root and lag fix.
Now to my question...when the OTA update comes out, can I just update from my phone? Honestly, there is no need for me to be rooted since I have no idea what I'm doing. I just did it so I could install the lag fix. But if the update fixes lag, I have no need for either. Basically, I'd like to know that if I do the update via OTA, all will be well in the world with my phone, correct? It will just override the root and lag fix? Or will it jack up my phone because I didn't uninstall the two?
Thanks to all!
You will be able to install the update, you will lose root after the update, as for the lagfix, the 1Gig file is probably still going to be there but it's probably going to be useless(not sure about the lagfix part but since OTA does not format the memory this is probably the case).
Related to your post I would like to know if you can update your phone with out rooting it if you are not on T-Mobile's network anymore? And if not if you put a T-Mobile pay as you go card will you be able to update then?
jonathan75 said:
Related to your post I would like to know if you can update your phone with out rooting it if you are not on T-Mobile's network anymore? And if not if you put a T-Mobile pay as you go card will you be able to update then?
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there is another thread with the same question and someone said that someone is probably going to post the update on XDA, which is probably going to be faster than you getting it over the air.
I'm going to take a guess and say that most likely you will not get the update when your on a different net.
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I'm new to android and was wonder what adverse effects are caused by rooting the device. I know it voids the warrenty but does it effect anything else.
I read that it stops you from downloading paid apps from the market, is that true?
Thanks
Other than the warranty issue, there are no adverse effects of rooting. If you are rooted you can run any number of custom roms available, some of which are nearly identical to the stock. You can also use software that requires root access.
Paid apps are available from the market. One of the early posts in the dev area stated that paid apps did not work but that individual did not have their SIM card in.
Thanks for clearing that up.
But if Google comes with an update, you won't be able to get it??
Or am I wrong?
Depends on if its ota or download, but generally with root you will get updates before theyre official or published.
^ is right. Keep on this site, and if there are updates you will probably have it a month or so before it goes out OTA (if that is how updates will be sent for N1).
Another reason it could be an issue now, we do not know YET how to reverse it. With the G1 we can go back to stock and send it to HTC if there was an issue.... until we figure that out, you are stuck with the rooted phone b/c HTC will not be obligated to assist.
But that's only if I choose to install custom roms right?
If I only root it for getting full acces on the stock rom, then i won't get the pushed update?
And then I have to use costum roms for getting the update?
Please correct me if I'm wrong
If everything goes like it did for the G1/Dream, then yes, you are correct.
i wanted to do a battery saver mod, or a couple of mods maybe. i am not rooted yet, and i just took an OTA update (probably a bad idea right?) oh well, is there any way i can root it with this update?
this is the method i was going to use, any idea if it will work? i couldnt find anything really about kernel versions or anything just model compatibility, and mine is an i9505 verizon. so it should work, but the OTA is fairly recent and im wondering if it just hasnt been updated or what?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39901375
after doing a bit more research i MAY not root, just because of the fact that i heard it disables screen mirroring, i use this feature on the daily.
still if anyone can give me a definitive answer that would be great
fade2green514 said:
after doing a bit more research i MAY not root, just because of the fact that i heard it disables screen mirroring, i use this feature on the daily.
still if anyone can give me a definitive answer that would be great
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Dude how can it do that just try by urself and if it does just flash stock rom again to unroot and u wont loose ur data in doing so
So I got my first smartphone, and being naive, I downloaded and installed the OTA update from AT&T because I wanted to be able to store my apps on my 64GB SD card instead of the limited 16gb already on my phone. A few days later, I looked into rooting, only to find out that update breaks it. (at least as far as I know).
So my question is, is there a way to root this update, or are the devs working on one? Or will they wait for 4.3 to be released? I'm not sure how this process goes, I have been jailbreaking iPods and iPads for the last 5 years, but I presume it is similar, seeing as they both gain root.
Also, is there a way to uninstall the OTA update so I can then root? I am new to all this, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
HeDsh0t said:
So I got my first smartphone, and being naive, I downloaded and installed the OTA update from AT&T because I wanted to be able to store my apps on my 64GB SD card instead of the limited 16gb already on my phone. A few days later, I looked into rooting, only to find out that update breaks it. (at least as far as I know).
So my question is, is there a way to root this update, or are the devs working on one? Or will they wait for 4.3 to be released? I'm not sure how this process goes, I have been jailbreaking iPods and iPads for the last 5 years, but I presume it is similar, seeing as they both gain root.
Also, is there a way to uninstall the OTA update so I can then root? I am new to all this, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Quick answer... You are stuck. No rollback or root for now. There are always people working on rooting and not waiting for.
4.3. Maybe someone will figure out how to restore old rom. Who knows.
All your questions have been answered in other threads.
Well a lot of people can't upgrade to MF3 so I say first thing first....what version are you on? MDL? or MF3? If you're MDL any of the rooting options should work. If you upgraded to MF3 like the previous person said you're stuck. Since you're used to iOS...think of it as upgrading to new firmware and CRAPPLE no longer signing the previous OS, and Android doesn't store your BLOBS and you can't use Tiny umbrella.
HeDsh0t said:
So I got my first smartphone, and being naive, I downloaded and installed the OTA update from AT&T because I wanted to be able to store my apps on my 64GB SD card instead of the limited 16gb already on my phone. A few days later, I looked into rooting, only to find out that update breaks it. (at least as far as I know).
So my question is, is there a way to root this update, or are the devs working on one? Or will they wait for 4.3 to be released? I'm not sure how this process goes, I have been jailbreaking iPods and iPads for the last 5 years, but I presume it is similar, seeing as they both gain root.
Also, is there a way to uninstall the OTA update so I can then root? I am new to all this, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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1) Confirm you are on MF3 and not MDL (settings/more/about device/last 3 letters in your build version). MDB is oldest, MDL is what you want to keep rooting, MF3 is the newest and unrootable for the time being.
2) You cannot root MF3. If you are on MDL and use Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper before updating to MF3, you might be able to preserve your root.
3) You can bet there are people trying to exploit this new build. Same as when a new version of ios comes out, you have to wait until someone jailbreaks it. We're waiting for someone to root MF3.
4) When 4.3 comes out they will try to root that one too...or hope that whatever root method we currently use, at that time, still works.
5) They used something called a QFUSE in the MF3 update that prevents us from downgrading once we're on MF3. Until (if) someone finds a way to exploit that, you're stuck on MF3.
I cannot enable wifi since I updated to 4.3 today. I've tried everything I know and wifi will not toggle on.
I am so frustrated!
I was rooted before the update and lost root afterwards FYI for anyone who has root using 4.2.2
Is anyone else experiencing this?
I did see a message saying something about it not finding something on my SD card but not sure if the message (that flashed briefly) had anything to do with this issue or not.
Restarting the phone doesn't help.
My S4 is useless to me without wifi.
I have done a factory data reset and wiped all data. Still having the same issue.
gbarrett71 said:
I cannot enable wifi since I updated to 4.3 today. I've tried everything I know and wifi will not toggle on.
I am so frustrated!
I was rooted before the update and lost root afterwards FYI for anyone who has root using 4.2.2
Is anyone else experiencing this?
I did see a message saying something about it not finding something on my SD card but not sure if the message (that flashed briefly) had anything to do with this issue or not.
Restarting the phone doesn't help.
My S4 is useless to me without wifi.
I have done a factory data reset and wiped all data. Still having the same issue.
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I know this doesn't help you, but it may help others.....
Don't EVER take an OTA while rooted. Jeez, I thought that was the cardinal rule when deciding to root ones phone.....
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I know this doesn't help you, but it may help others.....
Don't EVER take an OTA while rooted. Jeez, I thought that was the cardinal rule when deciding to root ones phone.....
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People just assume they will fine. This guy/girl, I'm sure wasn't that patient and flashed the zip. The main thread for the update shows that members have been having problems with WiFi while flashing the update zip on stock rooted.
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People just assume they will fine. This guy/girl, I'm sure wasn't that patient and flashed the zip. The main thread for the update shows that members have been having problems with WiFi while flashing the update zip on stock rooted.
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I'm familiar with rooting somewhat and figured for sure I'd lose root. I didn't know about the wifi issues though. I'm really not a dumb butt (and I'm not suggesting that's what you're saying exactly), it's just that after searching and searching for a primary thread and not finding one on the issue, I went ahead and did the update being fine with potentially losing root temporarily till another root option came out.
I feel like a dumb butt because I still cannot find the thread that you're talking about. Maybe I'm just overwhelmed. I have no idea why but my continued searches are still turning out fruitless for finding any info on wifi troubles at all except for people in Germany on different carriers.
Will someone kindly point me in the right direction for the thread you're referring to and in the right direction as to how I can flash my phone back to stock/unrooted?
I was just excited to get this update and have never ran into issues like this before with updating OTA on other devices, except for losing root.
I really do appreciate any help and I'm sorry for having a putz moment.
Garry.
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I'm familiar with rooting somewhat and figured for sure I'd lose root. I didn't know about the wifi issues though. I'm really not a dumb butt (and I'm not suggesting that's what you're saying exactly), it's just that after searching and searching for a primary thread and not finding one on the issue, I went ahead and did the update being fine with potentially losing root temporarily till another root option came out.
I feel like a dumb butt because I still cannot find the thread that you're talking about. Maybe I'm just overwhelmed. I have no idea why but my continued searches are still turning out fruitless for finding any info on wifi troubles at all except for people in Germany on different carriers.
Will someone kindly point me in the right direction for the thread you're referring to and in the right direction as to how I can flash my phone back to stock/unrooted?
I was just excited to get this update and have never ran into issues like this before with updating OTA on other devices, except for losing root.
I really do appreciate any help and I'm sorry for having a putz moment.
Garry.
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If you already updated to mja update, you went to the path of no return; well for awhile. You can odin or anything or go back to other firmware. Its like apple's ios firmwares now. Being stuck when you upgrade and cant downgrade sucks really.
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I am currently rooted with MM on my S7-Edge, SM-G935A and yesterday I got the notification from AT&T that it wanted to update my phone to the newest version of Android, Version 7 (Nougat).
I thought about UN-Rooting my phone and let the OTA finish the process and complete the upgrade. But after looking around there isn't a stable version for Root on Nougat yet for the AT&T Phone, so I think I going to wait.
But my question is if I just let OTA update the phone without Un-Rooting it, what would happen to the phone. Would it just become Un-Rooted and be an Updated Android 7.0? Or would there be problems? I can say for sure that I would not do this as I like having Root Access and I don't think I would like living without Root. But I was just curious what would really happen?
I only have one phone and don't want to mess it up, but there are a lot of people on these forums that experiment with phones all the time.
Anyway, just a question for all of you in the know.
Judging from what happened with a minor update on my at the time rooted s6e, it'll just error out before anything is done due to the engboot not being what it expects.
It checks the hashes of that file and a lot of others before applying the update from what I can tell
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Judging from what happened with a minor update on my at the time rooted s6e, it'll just error out before anything is done due to the engboot not being what it expects.
It checks the hashes of that file and a lot of others before applying the update from what I can tell
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Thanks for the reply. That is what I expected. I am not going to try this but like I said just curious. And you answered my question.
Again thanks.
Yup it wouldn't update.
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