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Does anyone have the file for the keyboard used in the froyo version
jasmo1984 said:
Does anyone have the file for the keyboard used in the froyo version
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it wont work on eclair builds, or desire builds. It is tied into the framework.
but, FWIW.... i attached the file
which brings up a good point... most of the items from the Desire builds, (and froyo builds) which are part of the Sense UI (or were added in Froyo) are not compatible on other builds. For instance, you cant just take FriendStream and put it in a froyo non-Sense ROM. Also, you cant take things from a froyo ROM and just throw them into an Eclair build. The API level is different as well as the framework.
There have been strides at getting things like HTC Music and the HTC Calculator ported over to builds, so before you go asking if it is possible. Just search, not mainly in this forum, but on XDA in general.
So, coming from a string of G1's and a Nexus, I cannot stand SenseUi. At ALL. I can live with the widgets and launcher- they are actually tolerable- what I cant accept are the keyboard, the way contacts are brought up, the lack of cut/paste in several areas, and all the frilly crud that goes along with it. I seek a TRUE vanilla rom, based on Android components not HTC. People constantly recommend using advanced launcher or one similar, but these are just launchers- they dont change the stuff back to stock that I seek. So my question is, can there ever be a REAL vanilla rom that has none of the Sense components? Is it possible to de-theme these areas in similar fashion to how the current de-sensing works, or would it require that HTC releases a vanilla version (which they never will). I guess I am asking, am I fighting a loosing battle?
You are coming from an N1 and asking this question?
Really?
Cyanogenmod ring a bell?
i was in the same boat as you. i am on cyanogen now, however there are a few issues with this port. on the nexus i didn't ever have any issues with cm6 but on the incredible you have to install another kernel after you install cm6 so that the camera will work, the camcorder just doesn't work yet, and when i have wifi on i get a reboot about once a day. i live with it because like you i hate sense ui but i wish they would have released a n1 for verizon. they did just release the source code for 2.6.32 which is froyo today, so the code shoulod be added into the nightlies of cm6 shortly.
It's been said that the latest radio fixes many (if not all) of those problems in Cyanogen on DInc. I can't attest to this being true or not, but some people were talking about it last night in the "Unrevoked - Forever" thread in the dev section.
cool! so there is hope. I figured the CM rom would be truly vanilla, but since it had so many little oddities I haven't given it a go yet. Good to know there is the possibility. Thanks guys
gospeed.racer said:
cool! so there is hope. I figured the CM rom would be truly vanilla, but since it had so many little oddities I haven't given it a go yet. Good to know there is the possibility. Thanks guys
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The new .32 kernel source that was just released will also allow koush to finish CM6 for the incredible. Basically now that this new kernel is out the bluetooth stack and everything else including the camcorder not working in CM6 will all work once implemented.
Even though the bluetooth works perfect in CM6 unlike normal senseui roms. /letting out BT steam
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I wonder when this will be ready?
Ok so here goes i'm thinking of working on a NAND ROM based on 2.3.1 (Gingerbread) Build: GRH78 FOR THE HTC HD2...but guess what...... i'm gonna try and throw HTC SENSE into the mix and see if i can get them to play nicely together....since this could take some time i just wanted to know if anyone is interested at all???? Just Post and ask if your interested......this ROM is going to based off ofMDJ's CyanogenMod 7 v. 2.3 with MDJ's Kernel: MDJ S10.3 OC (or whatever new Kernal MDJ releases between now and when i get this rom complete) and the Desire HD Sense including the Sense Camera...(THESE ARE MY GOALS FOR THIS ROM)I Will Be Posting Frequently Since I Will Need Testers to find all the little bugs that i miss....
( I WILL ONLY POST ROMS THAT I THINK ARE SAFE...BUT THERE IS THE CHANCE THAT IT STILL CAN BE BRICKED SO BY FLASHING MY ROM YOU KNOW THAT YOUR VOIDING YOUR WARRANTY AND I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU BRICK YOUR DEVICE )
EDIT: Im Gonna Try My Hardest to have a Version posted so everyone can play with it by 01/15/2011 - 01/16/2011....
EDIT: I just sent a message to cortulla....mainly if he has any tips or tricks that might help out with this build....01/14/2011
EDIT: Ok I'm sorry for not posting for so long i haven't forgot about you guys...i'm still working on this rom..its harder than anticipated...plus having the free time to do it gets tricky...work is having mandatory overtime since the iphone is being released on verizon...(SCARED MUCH AT&T????)..SO JUST WANTED TO UPDATE AND SAY I DIDN'T DITCH THIS PROJECT.......02/03/2011
Thanks Everyone and remember we couldn't do any of this if it wasn't for Google, Cyanogen, Cotulla & (DFT), MDJ, Markinus, gauner1986, danij3l, gpc, LeTama, Rajko and others...and if i forgot to mention you im sorry just yell at me and i'll be sure to add you to the list =-)....
Reserved...for future postings
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i am interested..
that would be great if gingerbread will have sense
ive loved to run it on my hd2
Count me in as beta tester...
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That is so funny, I have been searching yesterday for something like this .
Count me in.
WTH, why not
We are always looking for something new to put in our phones
Good luck and count me in...
Santroph
Also very interested...
And I'd like to be a beta tester.
Totally interested in this. Gingerbread has come along a great length in the last copuple of days. Latest stock release dated the 14th shows working lights and usb! Would be awsome to have sense built on top!
Please work on it man
Good luck. It's almost impossible; most of sense is dependant on the HTC framework and most libraries, which are in turn interdependent with the android version they run on (2.2). You pretty much have to replace the whole build with 2.2, which, in effect, makes the build a 2.2.
It would be easier to add to 2.2 the keyboard and animations from Gingerbread, along with the launcher. It's close, but it's not really 2.3 either.
Good luck anyway.
for me it's enough to have the desire hd cam on gingerbread. will it ever be possible to provide only the hd cam tool?
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Good luck. It's almost impossible; most of sense is dependant on the HTC framework and most libraries, which are in turn interdependent with the android version they run on (2.2). You pretty much have to replace the whole build with 2.2, which, in effect, makes the build a 2.2.
It would be easier to add to 2.2 the keyboard and animations from Gingerbread, along with the launcher. It's close, but it's not really 2.3 either.
Good luck anyway.
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+1.
It's hardly possible to get sense rosie.apk (the launcher) working on stock android... (afaik nobody has done it to date)
plus I bet its impossible to do it on a different android version.
Yet I would be interested.
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fruchtfliege said:
for me it's enough to have the desire hd cam on gingerbread. will it ever be possible to provide only the hd cam tool?
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Why?
Use Camera 360 or a similar app. They do the same (may look worse but who cares?)
(maybe no facial recognition - yet do you really need that?)
it seems to me that Gingerbread mostly enhanced aosp anyways, it tweaked the UI and didn't really have that many enhancements.
If you could just port the Gingerbread keyboard, icon set, Nexus S LWPs, and the screen-off animation to a Sense build then you basically have it.
(may look worse but who cares?)
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yep, and that's exactly what i want: a good looking camera app. technically i'm satisfied with the gingerbread cam, but it looks awful in compare to hd cam app...
I'm dreaming of it !!!
Bring it on!
I'd love to give sense a try on Gingerbread!
2.2 Sense ?
Sense HD would be cool but I imagine more work
I'll look forward to it !
+1 Beta Tester
sure man it will be revolutionary start .... good luck ...
Absolutely impossible. You need a HTC leaked ruu I tell you that. Unless you are a fremework wiz. If you are, 10-90 chance. Good luck. You may make history with it.
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"if" you're able to pull it off, I sure will try it out
This is a request to all the developers developing for HD2, If you want a fully working, fully stable build on HD2 with top performance you would have to stop treating your device as Bravo, everywhere i look from recoveries to kernel i see Bravo, Evo, Passion. For God's sake the phone is different from all other snapdragon phones.The display, the drivers etc are different. Also please stop keeping the source of your edited files to yourself, if you open source them, they can be improved upon and HD2 can be made faster and better device. Also developers thing beyond overclocking. There are other things HD2 needs in the kernel. If you waste your energy in just overclocking then i would say its pretty dumb. Just a kind request to everyone. Your device is htcleo/leo not bravo/passion/supersonic. They are similar but not same. use htcleo as device name in build, init rather than bravo/passion/supersonic. Your device isnt a mix of device anymore, its a different device that stands apart
im not a dev but ... yes , is time when all work must be unified.
+1 on this.
All devs should work together and share their results.
Bump.
This thread needs to be looked at and acknowledged. Charansingh is trying hard to get our device working to its best possible method and not just patch everything constantly. If some kernel developers (Tytung, rafpigna, iamgpc, etc.) set up conversations with charansingh, I'm pretty sure all outstanding issues could be worked on and we could even fix issues we didn't know we had. Come on, devs! Work together to bring our HD2s to truly compete with android devices out there as a native solution!
Definitely worth a bump
Super bump. Seems like a lot of these roms are sort of half-baked ports of other devices. It's extremely difficult to find a stable rom to use as a daily driver. Coming from the Nexus One, the difference in rom development is staggering. If you go to the Nexus forum you can find tons of stable, fully functional roms optimized for the Nexus. I still haven't found a rom that's come close to the usability, speed, and stability of those for the Nexus. I don't mean to knock t he devs on the board, because they do great work, but I think the HD2 has the potential to be amazing.
Just my 2 cents.
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Super bump. Seems like a lot of these roms are sort of half-baked ports of other devices. It's extremely difficult to find a stable rom to use as a daily driver. Coming from the Nexus One, the difference in rom development is staggering. If you go to the Nexus forum you can find tons of stable, fully functional roms optimized for the Nexus. I still haven't found a rom that's come close to the usability, speed, and stability of those for the Nexus. I don't mean to knock t he devs on the board, because they do great work, but I think the HD2 has the potential to be amazing.
Just my 2 cents.
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The Nexus is a native Android device. Of course the ROM development will be different. It's a miracle we have Android on the HD2 at all. It was always going to be a painful development process. That said, wise words from charnsingh.
Keep rocking, Devs.
I'm not a dev, and this topic is not addressed to me but I think you should correct the name of the thread to "A request to All developers' except Pongster. Perhaps not only Pongster but I'm sure that He uses the real name our phone in bulid.prop for example and His bulid's it's not just a port from Bravo, Evo etc, etc. Correct me if i'm wrong.
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I'm not a dev, and this topic is not addressed to me but I think you should correct the name of the thread to "A request to All developers' except Pongster. Perhaps not only Pongster but I'm sure that He uses the real name our phone in bulid.prop for example and His bulid's it's not just a port from Bravo, Evo etc, etc. Correct me if i'm wrong.
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if you read craefully pongster thread,his build still use desire base..from source of desire
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if you read craefully pongster thread,his build still use desire base..from source of desire
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Hhhmmm I don't want to be a Pongster lawyer And I hope that HE will not feel offended but let me quote some parts of tread Hyperdroid CM7
Drawing inspiration from the Desire AOSP based Custom ROMs
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Again, THIS is NOT a PORT... its Completely Built FROM SOURCE, Fully Optimized and Tweaked for the HD2!
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ardianz said:
if you read craefully pongster thread,his build still use desire base..from source of desire
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The source is built from the following: Base is Pure AOSP, Framework Tweaks and Settings is Redux, Cool Features & Functions from CyanogenMod.
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from the gbx thread.
ardianz said:
if you read craefully pongster thread,his build still use desire base..from source of desire
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Have you bothered checking the source I use? and the device specific stuff by charan for the HD2 in there? I don't use the desire base. The source of the ROM is something any device can use, given the right kernel and proprietary libs the device may need. Just like CM7 is not just for the HD2, but for a myriad of different devices, the source can be used by anyone with the right device specific stuff.
In my ROM, I use the device specific stuff that charan has done for CM7 HD2 (with a few edits for GBX overlays and HD2 specific Settings).
Like charan has mentioned, most of what we currently have here (ROMs) are ports/kangs from other devices. In fact my old SD build was one of them.
His hard work paved the way for a device specific ROM, that being the CM7 RC's he builds (and you can build, which I also do for testing, from source) and the GBX I build now. If you take the source and add the device specific stuff (drivers, ramdisk, kernel, libs) you can build a ROM for other devices using the the device specific stuff available in the CM7 git. (Desire HD, Nexus One, etc. can be built using the source on Git)
As I understand it, from my limited knowledge on this, the device specific stuff is where the difference lies, from the 2D and 3D drivers, to the overlays for every device, down to the kernel for each device.
I don't know much about the kernel development at this point and how we came about using what we do now, but there is definitely room for improvement and we're lucky to have charan, tytung and the rest of the HD2 devs to help us out in this regard.
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I don't know much about the kernel development at this point and how we came about using what we do now, but there is definitely room for improvement and we're lucky to have charan, tytung and the rest of the HD2 devs to help us out in this regard.
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Well said pongster
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Hes right,we have to treat our HD2 like a native android device otherwise were not gonna advance that far if we treat it like anougher device.Our HD2s are amazing so lets advance and be happy
I'm in no way a dev, but its great to see common sense prevailing. I wish I had more time to get my head into these ROM's/kernal's etc but I don't. And I for one am eternally grateful for all the hard work done on this site to keep the likes of me interested in the HD2. It's a crackin phone, lets keep it that way!
i agree with you in lots of things but some roms just have to be ported.
htc won´t release a sense build for the hd2 or just a rom to get ported.
guys that want sense just need a ported rom.
and sorry buti dont´t think this is right in the development section.
maybe you should contact them on irc
I agree it would be nice if everything was done just for the LEO, but Im not going to say anything bad about Typoon his ports rock, are uber stable, and anything but half baked.
The reason why the bravo/passion base is used is:
a) Some apps only show up on the android market for known official Android devices. The LEO is not an official Android device.
b) There's no official/main AOSP/CM7 repository with LEO specific changes in them.
EDIT: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_htc_leo I guess this can be the closest thing to official.
c) In terms of compatibility, the bravo is the hardware closest to our own hardware. Yes there ARE differences which is expected. We do not have a ROM designed for our own hardware that we can refer to.
d) Sense ROM's aren't open source.
I completely agree on the overclocking front. We need improvements in kernel, not just kicking up the CPU clock-speed.
Yes, sources should be shared, however, chefs tend to keep changes to themselves. This is an issue.
In my opinion, an 'official' AOSP/CM7 ROM/repository would be ideal.
That said, I can't think of any bugs/issues now with bravo/passion based ROM's Most issues stem from using ROM's from other devices/chipsets. I'm personally happy with GingerBread based on Passion sources!
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The reason why the bravo/passion base is used is:
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a) Some apps only show up on the android market for known official Android devices. The LEO is not an official Android device.
Fixed- We only need to change the fingerprint of the build, same is done for bravo etc using passion fingerprint for gingerbread
b) There's no official/main AOSP/CM7 repository with LEO specific changes in them.
EDIT: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_htc_leo I guess this can be the closest thing to official.
Fixed - It works
c) In terms of compatibility, the bravo is the hardware closest to our own hardware. Yes there ARE differences which is expected. We do not have a ROM designed for our own hardware that we can refer to.
Fixed - The CM7 nightlies and RC i am compiling.
d) Sense ROM's aren't open source.
Fixed - For sense Roms it isnt an option
I completely agree on the overclocking front. We need improvements in kernel, not just kicking up the CPU clock-speed.
Yes, sources should be shared, however, chefs tend to keep changes to themselves. This is an issue.
In my opinion, an 'official' AOSP/CM7 ROM/repository would be ideal. It is there lol
That said, I can't think of any bugs/issues now with bravo/passion based ROM's Most issues stem from using ROM's from other devices/chipsets. I'm personally happy with GingerBread based on Passion sources!
i am not a dev but there are some roms in this forum that we must give credit to as not being half baked like motomans mytouch rom everything work on it and it is very snappy and responsive also typhoons rom is really good too i can see from there rom that there are those who really treat hd2 like a really android phone
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_...gingerbread_on_16_may_in_the_uk-news-2638.php
The above article says that HTC Desire HD and Incredible S get Gingerbread on 16 May. Today is the 17th. Anybody got any news?
I'm sure these updates could help speed up the efforts to have a fully working version of Ginger-Sense for the HD2.
It's better to stick with your favorite Gingerbread Sense ROM for updates. If your favorite ROM thread is still support by the dev, he will surely upgrade his Sense build. Instead of making a thread that won't fasten his work. Give him a week or two after the official release date to update it in his thread.
I was asking because there's no Gingerbread Sense ROM that really works.
There are only 2 Sense ROMs that are Gingerbread based: imilka's Gingerbread Sense and RafDroid HD Gingerbread. Each of them has a long list of known issues and I assume they are made from bits and pieces of other Sense ROMs.
I assumed that having a Desire HD Ginger-ROM would stimulate other developers to get on board of similar projects.
I don't own a Desire HD so I don't know if the update has been released. I thought some of the people on this forum should know more on this issue.
I'm not trying to waste anyone's time, I was just asking a legitimate question.
PS: right now I'm running the same ROM that you are running.
of course there is no fully working one yet because the devs need access tothe source code and libraries used to be able to hack them to work on our hd2
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I was asking because there's no Gingerbread Sense ROM that really works.
There are only 2 Sense ROMs that are Gingerbread based: imilka's Gingerbread Sense and RafDroid HD Gingerbread. ...
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There are some more Gingerbread Sense rom's, but max. Android 2.3.3.
There are no V2.3.4 sense rom from HTC available.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058110
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989289
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076951
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075703
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075621
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1066279
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062881 (Post 4+5)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052298
Have tried some, the stablest are the roms with the Sense 2.1 lock screen or the 3.0 one without the app-links. Pictures from the camera are a little bit unsharp with less light, camcorder works in no rom. But Dungphp said, it was working nearly. If you can live without the camera, you will have no graphical glitches. Had often start problems of the sense launcher, after install or after some reboot's.
All problems should be solved if HTC will release the code of the desire gingerbread kernel (!not desire HD, this is already released but hardware is more different).
I will check today and let you know.
Yeah i tried a few Ginger sense builds and whilst they are good they are still way too buggy for everday use not to mention the camcorder issue not resolved so i wont be flashing any more until they are stable.
Forgot the only solution to record a video. "Videocam illusion" record video's in .mov format at our sense gingerbread rom's, but the quality is not so good.
jonny68 said:
Yeah i tried a few Ginger sense builds and whilst they are good they are still way too buggy for everday use not to mention the camcorder issue not resolved so i wont be flashing any more until they are stable.
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+1, returned to stable froyo sense.
The stablest one was the sbryan12144 v0.2, no installation problem's and everthing working very fast. But the glitches and the bad camera and camcorder was 1 problem too much for me.
[16.May.11]BOYPPC-SHIFTPDA DESIRE HD V14*GINGER 2.3.4_Sense&HoneyComB V21*MIUI V2
Richy99 said:
of course there is no fully working one yet because the devs need access tothe source code and libraries used to be able to hack them to work on our hd2
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Yes, I know what they need to make the magic happen. I'm also a developer (C++/C#/SQL Windows software), and though I have little to no experience on Android software & ROMs, I know how hard they work for everything they do.
BTW HTC should kiss XDA's feet each and every morning. I got more support on this site than I ever got from HTC.
^^^it just so
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[16.May.11]BOYPPC-SHIFTPDA DESIRE HD V14*GINGER 2.3.4_Sense&HoneyComB V21*MIUI V2
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tried it but wayyyy too buggy at present.