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Charging cable - Is it generic?

I'm in the UK and want to save $20 on the charger
I have a couple of Micro USB wall chargers that i use on my blackberry. They will fit the N1 and plug straight into the wall. Would they be safe to use, to charge my N1. (These charges are rated 750mHA).
I know the N1 will be supplied with a micro USB cable. I also have an IPhone wall socket plug head, the ones where you just put the USB cable into the plug and then it goes into the wall. Are these safe to use too, for charging the N1?
Thanks

the Nexus one connector is standar microUSB and therefore will work with standard microUSB cables and chargers.

So there is no type of resistor or transformer in the official plug head? ... to restrict power. I thought there would be as my blackberry charger has a 750mha rating on it.
I can understand the USB cable will work as its a limited power output from a laptop port. But just wanted to check the official wall outlet plug current isn't being restricted. The last thing i want to do is fry my new N1.
Cheers,

Just plugged mine into my old nokia classic micro usb and it is charging fine

The specs for the wall charger are 5V and 1A.
http://www.htc.com/europe/product/nexusone/specification.html

do what i did. remove the charger from your basket and use the supplied USB with an old htc charger if you have one. If not get one for a few quid from ebay why spend $20 when you can get one for $5 odd from the market/ebay.

I can only speak anecdotally, but I used a Blackberry Storm charger and nothing exploded

this mini, micro, A B stuff is annoying. to clarify for my simple mind, will usb cables that fit into my G1 fit into the N1? or is it a different size?

Last year, Micro USB was decided as the open standard for cell phone chargers, so this should be replacing Mini USB as seen on earlier phones (BlackBerries, G1) in instances where the port isn't.. some.. proprietary crap.
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j.books said:
this mini, micro, A B stuff is annoying. to clarify for my simple mind, will usb cables that fit into my G1 fit into the N1? or is it a different size?
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No. The G1 used Mini USB, this is Micro USB. The phone comes with a charger and USB (USB-A 2.0 to Micro USB 2.0) cable.

It's not propitary so it will work with any other charger.

It's a funny thing to find. It's too new to be widely available
I went looking for a car charger and a straight USB A->Micro B cable. The former I found by poking in all the packages for different phones until I found it (found a Samsung charger that uses it, although they did want nearly £30 for the damned thing). The USB A->Micro B I drew a blank - the more clueless salesmen tried to convince me that I was mistaken and I meant Mini!
I thought the blackberry used them but I looked in the pile of blackberry cables the local shops had and they were all mini. Even my local electronics store has every kind of USB imaginable *except* micro.
Edit: Found one! (might be useful for UK users). It's out of stock though... http://www.cableuniverse.co.uk/catalog/cables/USB-A-to-Micro-USB-B-Cable.html

Just so you guys know, not all micro USB's are the same. I bought a car charger from a local Tmo store last week (I forget what phones it was for), and although it "worked" when the plug was perfectly perpendicular to the phone, it had quite a bit of lateral play (which the OEM plug does not), meaning anytime it moved in the car, it would stop charging.
I returned it, and am now just waiting for HTC to decide to manufacture accessories for this ever increasing bundle of worry...

I am using a TomTom charger for my N1, also the HTC hero and the Motorola Droid chargers works to charge my N1.

SANTilt said:
Just so you guys know, not all micro USB's are the same. I bought a car charger from a local Tmo store last week (I forget what phones it was for), and although it "worked" when the plug was perfectly perpendicular to the phone, it had quite a bit of lateral play (which the OEM plug does not), meaning anytime it moved in the car, it would stop charging.
I returned it, and am now just waiting for HTC to decide to manufacture accessories for this ever increasing bundle of worry...
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Seems like it was just a poor quality charger. If it's a micro USB, it should be built to specific specifications. I already bought a few chargers (including a car charger) and cables (for work, home and travel), and they all work perfectly. Technically ALL micro USBs should be the same, unless the manufacturer didn't follow the standards.

TaFFeR said:
Seems like it was just a poor quality charger. If it's a micro USB, it should be built to specific specifications. I already bought a few chargers (including a car charger) and cables (for work, home and travel), and they all work perfectly. Technically ALL micro USBs should be the same, unless the manufacturer didn't follow the standards.
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Hah, just my luck; I pick up the one out of spec micro USB charger in the entire city!
Although, it must be that particular T-Mobile supplier, as I went to another store and test fitted the same charger, and it had excessive wiggle as well. Either that or my phone is just lame...

I just got a universal charger in Tesco for £5 that has changeable heads (Micro, Mini, Samsung, Sony Ericsson and Nokia 2mm)
Works perfect

- The cable is standard USB. You can use it to charge the phone from your PC, or use another micro USB cable or charger you have
- The Nexus comes with a US 2 pin charger that is dual voltage - works in UK and US. Just spend 50p and get a US to UK convertor plug.
- The charger is rates 5v 1A, so if you have another microUSB charger with the same voltage use that.
I find charging from the charger results in more battery life than USB. The only explanation is charge rate because USB is 500mA and the charger is 1000mA
PS. I removed the UK charger from the order too. You get the US charger regardless in the box.

Samsung USB cable Crap?

Since I have gotten the Epic I have had so many issues with windows seeing the phone and installing the proper drivers even right after restarting the phone. Im lucky if windows see's the phone one out of 10 times I have to plug unplug etc etc until my pc's see the darn phone.
So I caught a post earlier that suggested to try a different cable and BAMM!!! phone links every single time no issues. Im using the usb cable that came with my evo now. Just side by side you can see the huge quality difference.
Samsung might want to check these cables and I suggest if your having charging or communication problems with the phone to try a new cable.
Let me know if any of you are also able to reproduce this!!

Yes. My cable actually broke the 2nd day of owning this phone because it was tugged on a little too hard while i was using my phone with it charging. It wouldn't charge the phone unless it was being pushed upwards or held a certain way.
Pathetic.
I've since been using my girl's MyTouch 3g cable and have had no issues whatsoever.

I just purchased a few new cables from monoprice. I've always had awesome results from them and they are cheap.

Yes the cable that comes with the epic should not be used with a computer IMO. Just look at the charger that plugs into the wall and compare it to the USB pins on your computers case.
The pins are raised a lot higher on the part that plugs into the wall compaired to how raised the pins are on my PC's case. I'm running an antec 1200 and I would consider the front USB ports to be really "tight". I then tried a different cable and have had no problems.......OTHER THAN BATTERY LIFE IN GENERAL sucks on the epic.

I didn't Realize there was a problem with the usb cable on th
e computer side but I have been using my I mac since my pc took a dump b. i think the phone end of the usb cable is just crap.it seems to disconnect really easy and not near as robust as the one that came with my hero. Still love my epic though!
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Come on. Both the cable and the wall unit sucks. A phone that is 500 bucks and you give me a .7 amp charger and a cheap ass cable? My HTC touch pro came with a 1 amp charger, that looked nice, and came with a good cable.

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Come on. Both the cable and the wall unit sucks. A phone that is 500 bucks and you give me a .7 amp charger and a cheap ass cable? My HTC touch pro came with a 1 amp charger, that looked nice, and came with a good cable.
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Right? Well at least we got 16g sd cards. They have to give and take you know? lol

my cord works just fine.
However i only have one mini usb (the one that came with it) so i ordered some micro usb to mini usb adapters so i can use all my old cables.

Just order a bunch of microUSB cables from monoprice. It's like $1.20/cable. I ordered 7 so I have a large collection of easily lost cables.

How the hell did I not know about this site? THANKS

Where to get replacement USB cable?

I lost my usb cable and charger. I need to get a replacement. Where do I get such a thing?
THX!

Your mobile carrier should be selling a smilar one but it won't be htc
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Most Micro-USB cables will do, as long as you make sure they work for synching data, not just charging. Apparently some cheap ones will only charge, no synch data. You can find them at Best Buy or computer stores. I've even seen them at office supply stores and Target. Or you can buy them online at any number of places, like Monoprice, Amazon or Newegg.
Similarly, any charger that has a USB port will work with a Micro-USB cable to charge the phone.

So this cable is called a "Micro-USB" Cable?
And it is not some proprietary thing from HTC?
Thank God!

convolution said:
So this cable is called a "Micro-USB" Cable?
And it is not some proprietary thing from HTC?
Thank God!
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lol very well done.

convolution said:
So this cable is called a "Micro-USB" Cable?
And it is not some proprietary thing from HTC?
Thank God!
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Those are all correct!
I've tried several cables and chargers, including a cable from Boxwave, the sync cable and charger from my Logitech Harmony remote, and (I think) the charger for my Motorola Bluetooth headset. They all work.

redpoint73 said:
Those are all correct!
I've tried several cables and chargers, including a cable from Boxwave, the sync cable and charger from my Logitech Harmony remote, and (I think) the charger for my Motorola Bluetooth headset. They all work.
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Micro USB is pretty well standardized. I use the charge/sync cable from my Logitech MX revolution mouse and it works just fine.
One thing I would recommend is NOT going to a t-mobile store. Carrier accessories are often 10x + more expensive than from other stores, especially compared to online. Its just goddamn highway robbery the prices they sell those things for lol.

Yeah, the micro-USB interface is an industry standard (in fact, all future cell phones manufactured for use in Europe are required to use it). Very useful for the cable portion (if you check around online or in third-party stores, you can usually pick up one of the Blackberry cables for only a couple of bucks).
One thing you should take note off when buying the charger portion though is supported amperage. The USB spec is limited to only 500mA, so that's what many of the generic chargers will output. I think the HTC charger is 1A though. 500mA should be fine if you are only going to charge while the phone is off, but if you will be using the phone heavily while plugged in, you'll probably want the 1A variety (also charges faster).

[HELP!] Would not charge over wall charger!

Hello all.
I have had Nexus 4 for 2 weeks now. Absolutely love the device. Doesn't really have any problem with it. Last night, my phone didn't charge when I plug it in the wall charger (LG charger with Kindle USB cable). So I thought I forgot to charge it. I plug it in the wall charger at work, a HTC charger/USB cable. It is still not charging.
But if I plug it into my laptop, it chargers and I can transfer files between the phone and laptop.
I haven't even rooted the phone yet. Locked bootloader. Stock everything and the latest update.
Noticed that there is something similar going on with S3. So this is not a Samsung problem. It's an Android problem.
Any help is appreciated.
EDIT: Nevermind.
I think it's the charger's fault. Glad it's not our phone though.

Have you tried using the wall adapter and cable that actually came with your Nexus 4?
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Have you tried using the wall adapter and cable that actually came with your Nexus 4?
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the wall adapter was from LG. I don't think the USB cable is faulty since I can connect to Laptop ok.

wngmv said:
the wall adapter was from LG. I don't think the USB cable is faulty since I can connect to Laptop ok.
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You should try the wall adapter and cable that came with your phone just to be certain the phone is faulty. Different adapters have different current outputs and different cables are better Suited to handle larger or smaller outputs. The kindle cable you speak of I know for sure is not designed to consistantly output at higher levels. Also, Older Samsung wall adapters like the one that comes with the Epic never had enough current output to charge my HTC phones anywhere near as quickly as my genuine HTC wall adapters.
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[Discussion]Do you know why most of wireless chargers are still micro ports?

Wireless charging has been around for a good few years now, and USB C are also popular for several years. Most of new USB C phones are coming with wireless charging capabilities. But most of popular wireless chargers are still micro ports so far.
Why are most of the wireless chargers still micro ports? It's because of different agreements. As most of QI wireless chargers are Qualcomm QC agreement, while most of USB C chargers use USB-IF Power Delivery agreement. If you use a PD USB C charger to charge a QC agreement wireless charger on a usb c phone, it will cause some incompatibility, overheating and charging instability.
It seems there is no good way to solve these problems now. I'm also expecting to use a better USB C wireless charger without any compatible and overheating issues. Because I almost cannot find any micro cables around me.
Is there any other inconvenience of using a micro wireless charger? When can we change to USB C wireless charging? Let's talk about this topic together.

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Wireless charging has been around for a good few years now, and USB C are also popular for several years. Most of new USB C phones are coming with wireless charging capabilities. But most of popular wireless chargers are still micro ports so far.
Why are most of the wireless chargers still micro ports? It's because of different agreements. As most of QI wireless chargers are Qualcomm QC agreement, while most of USB C chargers use USB-IF Power Delivery agreement. If you use a PD USB C charger to charge a QC agreement wireless charger on a usb c phone, it will cause some incompatibility, overheating and charging instability.
It seems there is no good way to solve these problems now. I'm also expecting to use a better USB C wireless charger without any compatible and overheating issues. Because I almost cannot find any micro cables around me.
Is there any other inconvenience of using a micro wireless charger? When can we change to USB C wireless charging? Let's talk about this topic together.
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Why does it really matter? In my experience, Micro USB cables are cheaper, and much easier to come by. I can walk into a gas station and buy one, but not USB-C.
Also, I have bought 3 wireless chargers since getting my S9. A stand up CHOETECH, the new panda pad they have, and a car mount by Iottie. All 3 have come with a cable. I also have dozens of micro usb cables from old devices.
While USB-C is the future, it's not mainstream. It's only really being offered in higher end devices. Until it's more standard, the cables are slightly more expensive because they aren't being as mass produced.
Is it more convenient? Sure. Will it replace Micro-Usb? Most likely. Until it becomes more standard on electronics as a whole, your likely going to see things like charging pads, Bluetooth headphones, etc still coming with micro usb. It's still the most used standard.
Keep in mind, USB-C is set to replace more than just micro usb. It can be used to replace Hdmi, and I think I read even networking cables (not that most people go wired anymore). It's already replacing power cords in MacBooks. It's truly a one cable to rule them all, but it's got years before it's done away with everything it can replace.

... I'm using the official Samsung wireless convertible charger, with a USB-C port.

The only issue I find with having a micro USB cable on the wireless charger is that you can't simply unplug it and plug it into your USB-c phone when you need to charge faster.

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Why does it really matter? In my experience, Micro USB cables are cheaper, and much easier to come by. I can walk into a gas station and buy one, but not USB-C.
Also, I have bought 3 wireless chargers since getting my S9. A stand up CHOETECH, the new panda pad they have, and a car mount by Iottie. All 3 have come with a cable. I also have dozens of micro usb cables from old devices.
While USB-C is the future, it's not mainstream. It's only really being offered in higher end devices. Until it's more standard, the cables are slightly more expensive because they aren't being as mass produced.
Is it more convenient? Sure. Will it replace Micro-Usb? Most likely. Until it becomes more standard on electronics as a whole, your likely going to see things like charging pads, Bluetooth headphones, etc still coming with micro usb. It's still the most used standard.
Keep in mind, USB-C is set to replace more than just micro usb. It can be used to replace Hdmi, and I think I read even networking cables (not that most people go wired anymore). It's already replacing power cords in MacBooks. It's truly a one cable to rule them all, but it's got years before it's done away with everything it can replace.
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:good::good: You're right. USB-C is the future, but it's not mainstream now. We still need Micro cables somewhere.

Cost. It's not a selling point so it's not worth the extra $ to upgrade it to USB type-c. The convenience of type-c is the ability to put it in in any direction. A wireless charger doesn't get plugged back in and unplugged. A manufacturer like Samsung is going to have a huge surplus of type-c so it makes sense for them to use it because there's no point of having different types in stock. But for things you buy on Amazon most of those are made from the same factories in China who I'm sure have millions micro USB in stock. There's just no incentive. Doesn't really benefit anything other than the niche person that wants to plug it in to their phone. Most by 1, plugging in, put it wherever it's going to go like a nightstand and that's where it's going to sit until it dies lol.