I guess tmobile is putting up a new 4G network, but will this phone work on their old AWS 1700/2100 network at 3G speeds? I want to get this phone and use it on the Wind Mobile network which uses the same standard.
Thanks!
EDIT: Oops, my bad, the Epic is on Sprint! Nevermind.
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I have am htc surround unlocked from at&t and using it currently with t-mobile everything works fine however the 3g is not working is there any configuration for the apn our something that I need to do to make it work please somebody help me.....
No. The hardware is different.
T mobile and at&t use different frequency for 3g data.
Unfortunately surround only support at&t frequency so u can't use 3g on t mobile network.
if i not mistaken the htc surround supports lte 4g.... so you might be able to
im not sure you might have to wait for a update
MackDaddyC said:
if i not mistaken the htc surround supports lte 4g.... so you might be able to
im not sure you might have to wait for a update
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Not true. The Surround does NOT support 4G LTE.
In reply to the OP, the Surround isn't getting 3G on T-Mobile because it only supports AT&T's 3G bands. Carriers do that so you cannot use the phone elsewhere if you try to weasel out of your contract. If you bought it off-contract, you should have stuck with AT&T because there is no configuration or any setting that exists that will get the Surround to use T-Mobile's 3G.
If you need 3G, you should probably consider returning the phone if you still have the chance and go get the HD7 instead.
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The Data bands used for AT&T are different yes, but this phone is a data quad band phone, so the antenna should be able to pick up the signal for T-Mobile or AT&T. It should be no more than a configuration issue. Both the HD 7 for T-Mobile and the Surround for AT&T have the same radio for data reception (/us/products/compare/120-121?view=1-1&sort=0&filters=0-11-0). Add www and htc and dotcom to the link.
Nope.
ATT offers UMTS or 3G using 850mhz(the old TDMA band) and 1900mhz.
While T-mobile offers HSDPA (technically 3.5g part of the UMTS specification) using 1700MHz for uplink and 2100MHz downlink.
The Surround would have to be 850/1700/1900/2100 3G and 850/1900 GSM (voice) to work on T-Mo's 3G.
Hi All,
I posted this in the SGS4G section, but feel I may have some luck here..
Is it possible to force data roaming to pick up an ATT 3g signal? I have Tmo but only edge where I live (USA), and for $30/month data edge just isn't going to cut it!
I have messed around with "service mode" to select a specific band frequency, but I either get edge or no service at all.
On a side note, my sgs4g is unlocked and I was able to get 3g when using a straighttalk sim (again ATT signal). Is it possible to get connected when using a Tmo sim?
Another thing I tried was (using my Tmo Sim) editing the APN settings to wap.cingular and THEN using service mode to switch frequencies. Doing this I was able to get the 3G icon, but my browser showed an error "No data connection"
Any Ideas? This could save me a HEFTY E.T.F. .... :/
no tmo and att uses different frequencys so they cant roam of each other.
My sgs4g allows me to select from 850, 900, 1800, 1900 as well as "wcdma" 1700, 1900, 2100. I am pretty sure att is at least one of those frequencies, especially since I got full 3g service with a straighttalk Sim.
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That phone should get HSPA+ from T-Mobile. Are there no 3G towers in your area at all?
When I travel outside of my town (an hour of driving) I can pick up 3g, and in more populated areas I can get 4g. Friends of mine have 3g in my town through ATT (they have ATT service plans), but I can't seem to connect.
I've been reading online that ATT doesn't allow roaming for data from other carrier plans, so I am not sure if this is the true problem or if there is a way to circumvent it..
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fredmc2020 said:
I've been reading online that ATT doesn't allow roaming for data from other carrier plans
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You got it. This is why the straighttalk (or an at&t) sim makes it work. There is no roaming on at&t's network with a t-mobile sim.
Does the Note work with any networks 4g? AT&T or T-Mobile maybe?
Does it work with T-Mobile's 3g at least? If so, any idea what is up and download speeds are?
Im thinking about getting this phone.
It works on ATT's H+ "4g network", 3g network, and 2g edge network.
and T-Mobile's 2g Edge network, not 3g or 4g.
And it should work on any other GSM Carrier in the US, just check the frequencies for 3g internet(if its the same as ATT, and if it is, it's most likely a subsidy of ATT anyway)
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It works on ATT's H+ "4g network", 3g network, and 2g edge network.
and T-Mobile's 2g Edge network, not 3g or 4g.
And it should work on any other GSM Carrier in the US, just check the frequencies for 3g internet(if its the same as ATT, and if it is, it's most likely a subsidy of ATT anyway)
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wow, im glad i asked. looks like i'll have to move to at&t then. No way could I use this phone on just 2g
I just bought an AT&T LG G2 plan on unlocking it for Tmobile/metropcs (they merged in my area) Will I be able to get full connections to everything once I unlock the phone for Tmobile network? I'd hate to realize I wont get any data or get very slow data after spending so much money.
Since MetroPCS uses Tmobiles system in my area but also still use their systems can I choose if I want to use a metropcs or a tmobile sim card? Or are they both on GSM towers and so there would be no difference? 4G for MetroPCS is available in my area but so is Tmobile HSPA+ which is better?
Not if you don't have the 1700 AWS band...
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Not if you don't have the 1700 AWS band...
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not sure what you're saying. 4G is 2100. but other than that if i leave 4G area i wont have any reception at all?
4G uses different bandwidths. Not all carries use the same... Still the same old "GSM/CDMA" scenario, just a bit more relaxed.
Just bought an AT&T Lg G2 and unlocked it for Tmobile/Metropcs use and after setting APN settings I still have no connection at all. Im unable to send a single text, get online or anything. Im sure im doing something simple wrong. Tmobile has 4G in my area so i should get great speeds. Anyone got any ideas?
I've entered APN for both 4G and non 4G
Did you reboot? Probably did but it already, right?
yup I've rebooted multiple times. Went into Networks searched networks it found AT&T Tmobile and MetroPCS and a few others. i've tried AT&T tmobile and Tmobile LTE and Metro PCs...all with no luck
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Just bought an AT&T Lg G2 and unlocked it for Tmobile/Metropcs use and after setting APN settings I still have no connection at all. Im unable to send a single text, get online or anything. Im sure im doing something simple wrong. Tmobile has 4G in my area so i should get great speeds. Anyone got any ideas?
I've entered APN for both 4G and non 4G
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I'm afraid that the AT&T D800 does not support AWS/UMTS Bands, which are T-Mobile's main frequencies. I've just pulled this list from Wikipedia:
AT&T - D800
GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS 850/1900/2100
LTE 1900(2)/1700(4)/850(5)/700(17)
T-Mobile - D801
GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS 850/1700/1900/2100
LTE 1900(2)/1700(4)/700(17)
Namely, you are missing UMTS band 1700 which manages about 50% of T-Mobile customers' HSPA+ connection. That being said, the fact that you cannot connect to T-Mobile's LTE band 1700 is weird. Also, UMTS band 1900 should also work.
Perhaps you're in an area with ONLY UMTS 1700 which would not work with the AT&T LG G2. Do you know if there's LTE coverage in your area?
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I'm afraid that the AT&T D800 does not support AWS/UMTS Bands, which are T-Mobile's main frequencies. I've just pulled this list from Wikipedia:
AT&T - D800
GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS 850/1900/2100
LTE 1900(2)/1700(4)/850(5)/700(17)
T-Mobile - D801
GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS 850/1700/1900/2100
LTE 1900(2)/1700(4)/700(17)
Namely, you are missing UMTS band 1700 which manages about 50% of T-Mobile customers' HSPA+ connection. That being said, the fact that you cannot connect to T-Mobile's LTE band 1700 is weird. Also, UMTS band 1900 should also work.
Perhaps you're in an area with ONLY UMTS 1700 which would not work with the AT&T LG G2. Do you know if there's LTE coverage in your area?
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Yes I am in DFW area which is one of the largest LTE areas Tmobile has. I'm unable to get a connection at all. It says phone is for "emergencies only" I cant make calls, text, or use web.
Sounds like the phone is not SIM unlocked. Need to verify it is SIM unlocked. Also where did you buy it. If the phone was bought from a person it could have been reported stolen or lost and blocked from T-Mobile.
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craigbailey1986 said:
Sounds like the phone is not SIM unlocked. Need to verify it is SIM unlocked. Also where did you buy it. If the phone was bought from a person it could have been reported stolen or lost and blocked from T-Mobile.
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I bought it off Swappa. Ill try the unlock code again but it said it was unlocked. it doesnt come up with any error when i put the new sim card in anymore.
You're likely in an area that does not have HSPA 1900 coverage; and since you're AT&T variant doesn't support the band, is showing no service. Locking onto LTE wouldn't help as HSPA is required for voice access.
I created a thread in the Q&A asking for ways to enable the missing AWS band on our AT&T / Canadian variant handsets. It was doable on Samsung and am hoping it can be done on our handsets.
turns out MetroPCS had to activate it. you cant just stick a sim into a new phone. they have to activate it on your account. $15 later (yeah i know...its BS) but the Lg G2 is up and running and getting 4G speeds