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Im selling my n1 for this and just wanna here some feedback on people that have had the nexus one and why the vibrant is the better choice for them....
Whats better you noticed?
What do you miss?
Any similarities?
I want this phone badddd, trying to sell n1, but craigslist here has over 500 phones posted a day, hard when theres that much stuff for sale... Soon ill sale this for 200.. I mean common I need that phone.... lol... I feel like a idiot but thats all I want at this moment is the vibrant....
Thanks have a good day. Please no Stupid thread comments or etc.... Im getting tired of that. If its a double thread, ignore and let the mods delete, Im sorry if this is duplicate as well. Im tired been up all night. Peace, enjoy your new phone guys and gals, im jealous as hell and hope they dont sale out soon.
i dont think i would sell my n1 for it.
deviusdragger said:
i dont think i would sell my n1 for it.
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You havea vibrant?
I just got a Samsung a hour ago.. I have a Nexus One now with 2.2 on it.
After 1 hour.. My review..
The usb charging port for the Samsung is on the top of the phone.. Stupid because when you use it in the car the cable needs to reach the top and loop around..
It has 16GB internal and comes with a 2GB microSD card..
It does not seem any faster than the Nexus One, and the Nexus one has the roller ball which I actually use and the Samsung has no hardware buttons on the front..
Camera seems the same, pictures look close to me..
I am suprised how much better the bigger screen looks, I did not think it would be noticable but everything just looks better bigger!!!..
ONE REALLY big thing though... The antenna on the Samsung works better somehow. The Nexus One has never been 3G at my office and the Samsung has full bars on 3G. The Nexus One is showing 3 bars on Edge.. ( I flashed a few days ago to the 2.2 radio, same signal before flash)
So, after 1 hour the I am not sure which is better.. My N1 is pretty beat up and 7 months old (got it jan 5th) but I need 2.2 on the Samsung to actually like using it..
ALSO, the charging port on the top is retarded!!!
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I just got a Samsung a hour ago.. I have a Nexus One now with 2.2 on it.
After 1 hour.. My review..
The usb charging port for the Samsung is on the top of the phone.. Stupid because when you use it in the car the cable needs to reach the top and loop around..
It has 16GB internal and comes with a 2GB microSD card..
It does not seem any faster than the Nexus One, and the Nexus one has the roller ball which I actually use and the Samsung has no hardware buttons on the front..
Camera seems the same, pictures look close to me..
I am suprised how much better the bigger screen looks, I did not think it would be noticable but everything just looks better bigger!!!..
ONE REALLY big thing though... The antenna on the Samsung works better somehow. The Nexus One has never been 3G at my office and the Samsung has full bars on 3G. The Nexus One is showing 3 bars on Edge.. ( I flashed a few days ago to the 2.2 radio, same signal before flash)
So, after 1 hour the I am not sure which is better.. My N1 is pretty beat up and 7 months old (got it jan 5th) but I need 2.2 on the Samsung to actually like using it..
ALSO, the charging port on the top is retarded!!!
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Sweet. Thanks for that. Yea power on top sounds weird... awesome reception sounds like...
Also do you know where the antenna is on the vibrant.. top or bottom? Thanks...
I believe if i were to get this phone i would have better 3G because of the N1 antenna woes. But i dont think getting this phone is worth the jump but i will convince my brother to ditch is BB for this
Me! I love it! It feels smaller, screen is way better, it is super snappy, and touchcwiz is actually way better than I thought it would be. 3d gallery is now like butter, love it! Market wont download anything yet though, fails everytime. Sucks, but other than that... also, I am itching to uninstall bloat on it, grr
afive720 said:
Me! I love it! It feels smaller, screen is way better, it is super snappy, and touchcwiz is actually way better than I thought it would be. 3d gallery is now like butter, love it! Market wont download anything yet though, fails everytime. Sucks, but other than that... also, I am itching to uninstall bloat on it, grr
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That's interesting my market is working 100%
duglas said:
The usb charging port for the Samsung is on the top of the phone.. Stupid because when you use it in the car the cable needs to reach the top and loop around..
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This may not be a bad thing for everyone though. Would actually work well for me since it stays in my cupholder and I just use BT. Granted, with my G1, it's upside down but CM's orientation hack makes the screen right-side up (not sure if the Vibrant has that incorporated).
Otherwise, yes, the port on top is somewhat odd.
someone will come out with a 90 degree angled usb connection end - if there's not one out there already
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ONE REALLY big thing though... The antenna on the Samsung works better somehow. The Nexus One has never been 3G at my office and the Samsung has full bars on 3G. The Nexus One is showing 3 bars on Edge.. ( I flashed a few days ago to the 2.2 radio, same signal before flash)
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temperbad said:
awesome reception sounds like...
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This is very ironic considering the earlier thread.
Thanks for the feedback, duglas. Glad to hear that the reception is good.
gsvnet said:
This is very ironic considering the earlier thread.
Thanks for the feedback, duglas. Glad to hear that the reception is good.
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Get off my nuts dude. What you mean Ironic? How so?
edit: nevermind. I can tell your a kid. Im grownup... Im not here to spit and spat. Ive been warned already and so have you. But yet your here trying to start some ****... PEACE AND GROW UP
duglas said:
I just got a Samsung a hour ago.. I have a Nexus One now with 2.2 on it.
After 1 hour.. My review..
The usb charging port for the Samsung is on the top of the phone.. Stupid because when you use it in the car the cable needs to reach the top and loop around..
It has 16GB internal and comes with a 2GB microSD card..
It does not seem any faster than the Nexus One, and the Nexus one has the roller ball which I actually use and the Samsung has no hardware buttons on the front..
Camera seems the same, pictures look close to me..
I am suprised how much better the bigger screen looks, I did not think it would be noticable but everything just looks better bigger!!!..
ONE REALLY big thing though... The antenna on the Samsung works better somehow. The Nexus One has never been 3G at my office and the Samsung has full bars on 3G. The Nexus One is showing 3 bars on Edge.. ( I flashed a few days ago to the 2.2 radio, same signal before flash)
So, after 1 hour the I am not sure which is better.. My N1 is pretty beat up and 7 months old (got it jan 5th) but I need 2.2 on the Samsung to actually like using it..
ALSO, the charging port on the top is retarded!!!
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I have been playing around with mine for about 3 hours now and i have to agreee with every thing you said and it is pretty much dead on. My reception to is better on the vibrant than the N1 don't know why it just is. I will hold onto my N1 before selling it and play with the SV more to get a "feel" for it
I wish they would have given you a better way to take a picture or activate the shutter, and I wish there was a better way to "wake" the phone up instead of the side button or a double click of the side button.
Also I wanted to comment on the build of the phone I don't think the weight of this phone gives it a "cheap" feel to it I prefer how light it is compared to my N1 and it feels good in my hand.
Just my .02
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I have been playing around with mine for about 3 hours now and i have to agreee with every thing you said and it is pretty much dead on. My reception to is better on the vibrant than the N1 don't know why it just is. I will hold onto my N1 before selling it and play with the SV more to get a "feel" for it
I wish they would have given you a better way to take a picture or activate the shutter, and I wish there was a better way to "wake" the phone up instead of the side button or a double click of the side button.
Also I wanted to comment on the build of the phone I don't think the weight of this phone gives it a "cheap" feel to it I prefer how light it is compared to my N1 and it feels good in my hand.
Just my .02
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I agree, it felt very sturdy at the store. Im going to pick mine up in about 2 hours, thanks for your feedback as well.... Makes my decision easier...
sweet I'm thinking about picking one up as well
Just pick my up at the local store and is simply AWESOME, Download a bunch of apps but still can get it to sync or mount..
the wify kept my nexus and my HD2 went craigslist..
temperbad said:
Im selling my n1 for this and just wanna here some feedback on people that have had the nexus one and why the vibrant is the better choice for them....
Whats better you noticed?
What do you miss?
Any similarities?
I want this phone badddd, trying to sell n1, but craigslist here has over 500 phones posted a day, hard when theres that much stuff for sale... Soon ill sale this for 200.. I mean common I need that phone.... lol... I feel like a idiot but thats all I want at this moment is the vibrant....
Thanks have a good day. Please no Stupid thread comments or etc.... Im getting tired of that. If its a double thread, ignore and let the mods delete, Im sorry if this is duplicate as well. Im tired been up all night. Peace, enjoy your new phone guys and gals, im jealous as hell and hope they dont sale out soon.
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Had my N1 since Jan 5th as well and have LOVED it. Rooted immediately, ran Modaco's Desire Sense port for a while before moving back to CM. Got my Vibrant Monday (yes, really). Rooted Tuesday. Ran Modaco's script to rearrange the internal memory / apps configuration and made the Vibrant go from fast to BLAZING. TouchWiz not bad, but not overly impressed with Samsung's widgets. Some are good, some are a little finicky. Sense nailed widgets much better but Samsung's are decent and better than nothing.
Comparatively, N1 was snappier out of the box as no UI overlay. However with some modding this phone will be on par or perhaps outperform N1 (I say that sensitively as N1 has an extremely special place in my heart . Samsung's Hummingbird processor is phenomenal and outperforms N1 on side-by-side 3d rendering test (YouTube Nexus 1 Galaxy S Quake to see). Vibrant's SuperAmoled Screen is what makes this phone truly special-- it's nothing short of incredible and makes N1's screen seem small and dim in comparison. ESPECIALLY in sunlight- N1 was basically unusable, this thing is nearly un-impacted. Watch the preloaded Avatar on it-- it's just gorgeous. The size and weight are beautiful, the super-light weight does make it almost feel a hair toy-ish but as soon as you touch the silky-smooth screen that feeling disappears. I really was looking for a step up in screen size from N1 and this delivers without the almost-too-big feeling of Evo or HD2.
Cons- miss the trackball for precise in-text navigation and notification alerts. But there's already talk of a mod to flash the capacitive buttons on the bottom for notifications- this will help, especially as there's no LED or anything else to visually alert for notifications. . As previously mentioned, side-mounted lock / unlock button is kind of annoying and will take some getting used to. You can only partially customize TouchWiz's bottom static shortcut dock. Of course, installing ADW Launcher or Launcher Pro will solve that and completely hide TouchWiz but you then lose ability to use Samsung's proprietary widgets, again some of which are actually nice. Also, TouchWiz's unlock on screen method is AWFUL- just a big rectangular movement of the entire screen. Boring and ugly. But you can eliminate lock screen all together with free Market app called No Lock (go figure lol).
All in all, a screen that is definitely a contender for top in the market; all-around outstanding hardware that will take a bit of getting used to from N1; stock software that has improved; modding will make this device a fire-breathing lightning monster (lol).
Love it and highly recommend!!!!!!!!
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Had my N1 since Jan 5th as well and have LOVED it. Rooted immediately, ran Modaco's Desire Sense port for a while before moving back to CM. Got my Vibrant Monday (yes, really). Rooted Tuesday. Ran Modaco's script to rearrange the internal memory / apps configuration and made the Vibrant go from fast to BLAZING. TouchWiz not bad, but not overly impressed with Samsung's widgets. Some are good, some are a little finicky. Sense nailed widgets much better but Samsung's are decent and better than nothing.
Comparatively, N1 was snappier out of the box as no UI overlay. However with some modding this phone will be on par or perhaps outperform N1 (I say that sensitively as N1 has an extremely special place in my heart . Samsung's Hummingbird processor is phenomenal and outperforms N1 on side-by-side 3d rendering test (YouTube Nexus 1 Galaxy S Quake to see). Vibrant's SuperAmoled Screen is what makes this phone truly special-- it's nothing short of incredible and makes N1's screen seem small and dim in comparison. ESPECIALLY in sunlight- N1 was basically unusable, this thing is nearly un-impacted. Watch the preloaded Avatar on it-- it's just gorgeous. The size and weight are beautiful, the super-light weight does make it almost feel a hair toy-ish but as soon as you touch the silky-smooth screen that feeling disappears. I really was looking for a step up in screen size from N1 and this delivers without the almost-too-big feeling of Evo or HD2.
Cons- miss the trackball for precise in-text navigation and notification alerts. But there's already talk of a mod to flash the capacitive buttons on the bottom for notifications- this will help, especially as there's no LED or anything else to visually alert for notifications. . As previously mentioned, side-mounted lock / unlock button is kind of annoying and will take some getting used to. You can only partially customize TouchWiz's bottom static shortcut dock. Of course, installing ADW Launcher or Launcher Pro will solve that and completely hide TouchWiz but you then lose ability to use Samsung's proprietary widgets, again some of which are actually nice. Also, TouchWiz's unlock on screen method is AWFUL- just a big rectangular movement of the entire screen. Boring and ugly. But you can eliminate lock screen all together with free Market app called No Lock (go figure lol).
All in all, a screen that is definitely a contender for top in the market; all-around outstanding hardware that will take a bit of getting used to from N1; stock software that has improved; modding will make this device a fire-breathing lightning monster (lol).
Love it and highly recommend!!!!!!!!
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Can you you please provide links to step by step rooting procedure before flashing modacos rom ?
Thank you in advance
Sorry to revive an old thread, but I just traded in my Nexus One yesterday and figured I'd revive this instead of starting a new thread. Had it for a full day, and here's what I think about it so far. (I will try to revive this at a month in, then six months in, then a year in if I keep it that long.)
+ It's much lighter, but very plasticky. I loved the aluminum and heft of the N1, but all of the plastic is made up in spades by it's sleek, smooth design. It's a beautiful device.
+ 3G on the Vibrant is much more consistent than it ever was with the N1.
- I really miss my LED notifications. NoLED is alright, but not as dependable. (It doesn't work with Go SMS popups.)
+ The screen is AWESOME. It's much brighter and more color-accurate, though not by a terrible amount. I absolutely love the size of it.
+ 16GB...internal storage!!! I can not only fit all of my music without a SD card, but can fit my ENTIRE LIBRARY with ANOTHER 16GB card! AMAZING!
+ It's a really fast phone.
+ It's a really fast phone.
+ With Nero 4.1/Voodoo, it's a really fast phone.
+ Multitouch actually works well, since I can use Swype like a normal keyboard and rotate on Google Maps (which is FRIGGIN SWEET)
- No flash is a bit of a letdown.
+ Camera makes up for it; it's quite good. Haven't tried recording with it yet, though.
- GPS is a BIG letdown, though triangulation is getting me by.
+ I thought I would hate Touchwiz, and I found out I (sort of) do. I hate the launcher, but it's apps are REALLY good. For example,
+ The music app is solid, and has an equalizer!
+ Alarm app is full-featured (has a timer, stopwatch, etc.)
+ Daily briefing could be useful
+ Desk mode is nice
+ Galaxy Tab email is really nice, though it doesn't provide any better features over the stock email app.
The one disadvantage...
- Wow, there is Engrish EVERYWHERE
- Proprietary drivers suck, but that's tolerable
- Not as straightforward to unlock at the firmware level, but that's tolerable too.
- Will be last to get official updates, but most of us run rooted/modified stuff, so that point is moot. A Gingerbread port is in the works and there are plenty of great Froyo ROMs for the device right now. (Nero 4.1 is froyo-based, and there is an unofficial, "stock" Froyo-based ROM floating around that I put on my Dad's Vibrant. He loves it, no issues so far.)
Final word (at this point): Highly recommend. I absolutely loved my Nexus One, as it was easily the best phone I've ever owned. However, this and the Nexus S (for the Google support the Nexus One enjoys) are clearly superior devices.
I got an EVO right after launch and loved it. I had a problem with the camera not working (defect). Best Buy didn't know when they were getting any back in so I canceled my upgrade and waited for the Epic. The Epic is an amazing piece of hardware. The screen has to be seen to be believed. That being said my first Epic was returned because the capacitive buttons didn't work at all. Best Buy swapped me out without a problem. My second one seemed to to be perfect (aside from the movement of the screen when the slider was closed).
After having it a few days I really liked the screen and the idea of the physical keyboard. However, I soon realized that the honeymoon phase was over when I tried to use the GPS and could only lock 1 sat no matter where I was. Then I noticed that I was getting what appeared to image retention. For example the notification bar left a faint image on the screen when on a all white screen (I only noticed cause I started hiding the notification bar with LaunchPro). Then I noticed that I could also see a faint image of the dialer buttons when on the same all white or blue screen. There are threads on here as well as other sites that detail how and why AMOLED screens have this issue. I guess the Nexus 1 had the same issue.
The keyboard was nice but the buttons were to spaced apart for me. I also didn't like the location of the power button it was awkward. I know that Samsung is "supposed" to fix the GPS but that remains to be seen. In my experience the screen was REALLY nice but if the image retention happens that easily it kinda ruins it for me. It's like the old school plasmas.
I was going to just swap it out again but honestly I expected the same problems. I called Best Buy this morning and told them what was happening and I asked if they had any EVO's and they actually received 1 white EVO this morning. They held it for me and the rest is history.
I have to say that coming full circle back to an Evo really feels great. I know on paper the Epic is supposed to be better and many like me were on the fence but the grass isn't always greener on the other side. The Evo feels better in my hand and it works. I just thought I would share my experience with switching to the Epic.
I was actually considering a switch but the more I read about it the more I want to stay with our evo
Swyped from my cm6
I took the plunge cause I couldn't get a hold of a replacement EVO. I really liked it at first but then all the negatives present themselves. The GPS is a HUGE deal for me and the image retention that I experienced was a deal breaker. I wish I took pictures of the the retention but the only camera I had was on the Epic.
I couldn't believe I found an EVO again. My new EVO came with 2.2 already on it.
ptfdmedic said:
feels better in my hand and it works.
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thats what she said!
j/k, month 4 and i'm still loving my evo man
IceCreaMan said:
j/k, month 4 and i'm still loving my evo man
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That's what she said! (I'm her Evo man.)
Ha ha! Punctuation.
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I tried to use the GPS and could only lock 1 sat no matter where I was.
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This was the reason I returned my AT&T Captivate and switched to the EVO. Samsung claimed that the GPS was fixed in the Epic. Thanks for confirming that I made the right decision.
Yeah I've had my EVO since launch day June 4th, coming from the Touch Pro 2 I was honestly thinking of taking it back with in my 30 days and holding off for the Epic as well. Good god am I happy I didn't now. Even though I'm currently waiting on my 2nd replacement so in all my 3rd one since launch, it still beats all the bulls*** problems the Epic has. I mean image retention? really? The biggest deal breaker of them all has to be the fact that it's a SAMSUNG though. F*** SAMSUNG! HTC for life! I've been nothing but happy with HTC since the 6700, to the Mogul, to the Touch Pro, Touch Pro 2 and now my amazing EVO =]
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This was the reason I returned my AT&T Captivate and switched to the EVO. Samsung claimed that the GPS was fixed in the Epic. Thanks for confirming that I made the right decision.
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You know what, I was playing with my friends Epic this past Saturday, for about 4 hours, and I never got a lock on the gps, during those four hours.
meh, aesthetically the evo wins in art design. too sleek, too minimal, light red/chrome accents.... love it.
never liked samsung's cellphone designs or their logo.
would like to have the improved graphics capabilities in the evo though.
The screen issue should have been expected lol. I bet the hardware keyboad would be nice to have but I am getting better with this on screen keyboard. The multi-touch droid x keyboard is nice for landscape and swype is great for portrait.
Samsung still makes crappy phones I guess lol. On another note I have never said I "love this phone" as many times as I have with the Evo. Im afraid to upgrade to the next best thing. I feel like a freaking power house with the Evo. Yeah there are other phones with the same or better specs but man this phone just does it all and does it all well. The FPS is arguably the biggest down side and I havnt had any issues with that yet. I do have it unlocked to almost 60 FPS though with CM6.
Epic Fail
Epic Fail!!
I carry both at all times and love them both...although the evo is my main.
I got the Epic the other day, had it for about 6 days, then returned it today and put myself on the waiting list for a White EVO 4G. I got a free EVO from Google's developer seeding program, and it is starting to have that "white spot" where the B on the soft keyboard is - and it's driving me crazy. Since I was given a complimentary EVO, I cannot have it serviced. So, White EVO 4G for me it is.
The EVO is a one of a kind device. The battery drain and TIME WITHOUT SIGNAL issues on the Epic are a dealbreaker. The GPS sucks, yeah, but it still WORKS. The screen door effect on the screen sucks but oh man is that screen beautiful. The hardware keyboard is good but I found myself using Swype 90% more of the time with the Epic.
HTC makes some solid stuff, and this is definitely a solid phone. The Epic 4G had major creaking issues, instantly out of the box - and that is just inexcusable for a $249 phone. The EVO is better built than the Epic and it costs .. less? Hmm..
Anyhow, obviously we're all different, but the battery drain issues were too much for me.
Im currently in the process of switching to Sprint from tmobile and looking into these two phones. Im coming from the samsung vibrant which should be an easy transition to the epic but i dont now if i can deal with the keyboard. Ive been playing around with my freinds evo alot and LOVE the size. 4.3 in display is awesome. Most people think 4in is just right but im one of those guys that think bigger is better .
Here are my pros for both
Epic
FAR better screen.
Better battery life.
Far better 3d perfromance
Slightly Better processor
Evo
Awsome 4.3 screen size
Better Development support
Dual LED
Better design/look
Leaning towards the evo right now only because im not a keyboard guy.
I would add to your pros list:
Epic
Far better video recording and dedicated shutter button
Evo
Froyo
Sense copy/paste
BTW, battery life on the Epic, depending on the user, is anywhere from a lot better to a lot worse than the Evo. The issue is the SAMOLED screen and the increased power consumption it needs to produce whites. If you watch a lot of video, especially movies with dark scenes, the battery will last a good while. But if you primarily surf the net and those pages are pretty much black text on white background, your battery experience will be worse. So battery life is a YMMV. Some reviewers thought it was better than the Evo, but Anandtech uses internet surfing to gauge battery life, and it was significantly shorter than the Evo when using 3G (but a skosh higher over 4G). The Evo lasted much longer over wifi.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3891/samsung-epic-4g-review-the-fastest-android-phone/8
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The screen issue should have been expected lol. I bet the hardware keyboad would be nice to have but I am getting better with this on screen keyboard. The multi-touch droid x keyboard is nice for landscape and swype is great for portrait.
Samsung still makes crappy phones I guess lol. On another note I have never said I "love this phone" as many times as I have with the Evo. Im afraid to upgrade to the next best thing. I feel like a freaking power house with the Evo. Yeah there are other phones with the same or better specs but man this phone just does it all and does it all well. The FPS is arguably the biggest down side and I havnt had any issues with that yet. I do have it unlocked to almost 60 FPS though with CM6.
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Actually when I was testing the epic, fps2d showed <45fps. Tested on 3-4 phones in the sprint store.
I have had several Samsung devices. The i760, The Moment etc and EVERY one of them has GPS issues that Samsung "tries" in vain to fix down the road.
It is just frightening how you can count on some companies to make the same mistakes over and over again!
Just curious, does the Epic have that same "cheap plastic" feel that the other Galaxy S phones have? One thing I love about the EVO is its solid, heavy feeling.
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Just curious, does the Epic have that same "cheap plastic" feel that the other Galaxy S phones have? One thing I love about the EVO is its solid, heavy feeling.
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Its more solid than the vibrant, but it still feels lighter than evo. I guess its personal preference. Since i got used to the vibrant is feels great. First time i picked up the evo it felt to heavy, and because of its size i could really feel it when I put it in my pocket, but loved how it looked. But after playing with it for most of that day i got used to it and had no problems
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Just curious, does the Epic have that same "cheap plastic" feel that the other Galaxy S phones have? One thing I love about the EVO is its solid, heavy feeling.
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the keyboard does feel cheap. didn't like the buttons at all.
I just hit my 30 day mark on my Shift. I thought I would share my thoughts on the phone and encourage others to do the same.
I came from the Touch Pro and this is my first experience owning an Android phone. I am still stock and not rooted. The phone is running incredibly smooth. Battery life has been very good. I can easily go 15 hours with heavy usage on a single charge. I did buy a car charger, but haven't needed to use it even though I have used the music player and Pandora for over an hour sometimes.
While I didn't buy the phone for the keyboard, I have found I use it as my primary input method. The camera is decent, but won't win any awards. The camera needs to be absolutely still, or photos will come out blurry. Video is similar as fast moving objects will tend to blur?
All in all I am very happy with my purchase. This is the best phone I have ever owned. I have said this about my last 5 phones, but isn't that what technology is all about?
well at least ya didnt own a moment before this. that phone was just about enough to sour anyone on a phone. the only saving grace on it was rooting and android. otherwise it was a POS this phone absolutely rocks
I am coming from an HTC Aria that was rooted and a nightly build of CM7 on it. I have had my new Shift for for about a week now. I have it rooted and have all the bloatware removed. I love the phone so far, I can't wait to get some ROMs installed on it to see how it really performs.
Sure you don't want to return it for this thing?:
http://phandroid.com/2011/02/07/spr...a-dual-screen-android-ultimate-multi-tasking/
Looks stupid to me but *shrug* I've been wrong before
^ Shift Faced
I'll let you know when my new one arrives in the mail.
The slider on my current one is so insanely loose I had to get it replaced, and being on an employee plan they have to ship me a new phone and a mailer to return the old phone. Hopefully the slider won't be so loose on the new one--this one can rotate about 10 degrees when fully open and holding one side up....very annoying
This all sounds good being im available for a discount on a new phone. Coming from the Evo..fully rooted, it annoys me the processor can only go to 1.19Ghz stable on aosp. What turns me on about the Shift is that it can OC to 1.51Ghz so far. I may just give it a shot.
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This all sounds good being im available for a discount on a new phone. Coming from the Evo..fully rooted, it annoys me the processor can only go to 1.19Ghz stable on aosp. What turns me on about the Shift is that it can OC to 1.51Ghz so far. I may just give it a shot.
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Some are getting 1.8 =) Mine maxes at 1.6
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Sure you don't want to return it for this thing?:
http://phandroid.com/2011/02/07/spr...a-dual-screen-android-ultimate-multi-tasking/
Looks stupid to me but *shrug* I've been wrong before
^ Shift Faced
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Hmm, I wonder if an emulator for the Nintendo DS could be developed for something like that.
jesusice said:
Sure you don't want to return it for this thing?:
http://phandroid.com/2011/02/07/spr...a-dual-screen-android-ultimate-multi-tasking/
Looks stupid to me but *shrug* I've been wrong before
^ Shift Faced
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I posted the same link in the epic forums. Also notice the last line in the article says "Image courtesy of Engadget. Not indicative of the Kyocera Echo's design." So the picture is just a render. Not the real thing.
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I came from a Touch Pro as well. I absolutely love the Evo Shift. The size of the phone is perfect and the keyboard is great (two main reasons for getting this phone). The phone seems very fast compared to what I'm used to and the Android Market is great; I can't believe the number of free apps.
Loving mine so far. Also still on stock ROM. Dabbled with some temp rooting, but have yet to attempt the perm method. Might have to root soon as I'm running out of internal space =O. I still have 2 more days to consider returning it, but don't think I will. Didn't realize there were o/c'ing kernels already out. I'm curious if I can hit 1.8GHz =D
I upgraded all the way from a Centro. I was pretty good with that keyboard, so really wanted the hw keyboard again.
However, with Swype installed, I never use the keyboard! I've opened it a few times for some technical input, but other than that, it stays closed.
I hate the z hinge on the g2 and was happy to hear the shift was a slider. However, now I want the z-hinge! I feel like the shift slider is getting looser. Its no where near what some people report, but it definitely has some play in it when closed.
I am very happy with the purchase overall. I never would have thought I'd also be happy with a phone with the same screen size except no slider.
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I hate the z hinge on the g2 and was happy to hear the shift was a slider. However, now I want the z-hinge! I feel like the shift slider is getting looser. Its no where near what some people report, but it definitely has some play in it when closed.
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Did you remove the protective stickers on the keyboard and back of the phone? I have kept mine on and the phone is as solid as the day I bought mine.
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Did you remove the protective stickers on the keyboard and back of the phone? I have kept mine on and the phone is as solid as the day I bought mine.
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yeah, I removed mine right away out of habit, and it's loose enough that I'm getting a new one (which I won't be removing the plastic if it stays on good). I was actually thinking of putting a piece of scotch tape on the back to help with it, but never got around to it before ordering a new one.
I am thinking the Zagg screen protector might work if cut to fit in those areas. It should provide enough resistance to keep the keyboard shut.
Hi all,
I'm currently using my EVO (with Cyanogenmod) but pondering an upgrade to the Nexus S 4G. Has anyone else made that leap and, if so, what are your thoughts and experiences? Thanks.
I havent looked back. Its super fast, easy to manipulate, love my SGX540, 4"screen size is where its at in my opinion. Also, the thing I really found amazing was the huge difference in the displays but 16m colors should be the minimum. Although I enjoyed my Evo when I had it...for about six months. Ill be sticking with the dev phones from now on. Unless they reach a ridiculous screen size.
I made the jump and pondered for a good month going back too.
Overall i'm glad I did and stuck with it. The NS4G feels really light in the hand coming from the evo which is refreshing. A lot of the weird bugs with parts of the OS stopping working after a few days usage I was finding in CM7 on the evo aren't present on the NS4G.
Battery life outdoes the evo for me, even with heavier usage on the NS4G.
My only two complaints:
* The speakerphone isn't very loud. There is a kernel out there to work on fixing this, but i'm holding out for the OTA to see if it helps
* The wifi signal is much weaker than the evo in my house. Hoping the OTA helps there too.
Yeah I used the EVO since last August than I got the NS4G right around launch day.
I don't think I could have a non-developer phone any more. You don't have to deal with any carrier garbage you get to make the phone how you want not how someone else wants it.
Also I rooted both phones as soon as I got them and rooting the NS is vary easy. I would say take the jump if you like pure Google and modding your phone.
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Yeah I used the EVO since last August than I got the NS4G right around launch day.
I don't think I could have a non-developer phone any more. You don't have to deal with any carrier garbage you get to make the phone how you want not how someone else wants it.
Also I rooted both phones as soon as I got them and rooting the NS is vary easy. I would say take the jump if you like pure Google and modding your phone.
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I loved my Evo very much.... or at least I thought I did until I met my sexy nexy. I have not missed my Evo for one instant. Srsly.
Only thing I miss is the kickstand every now and then.
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I have had two nexus phones and each have had problems. I keep switching back to the Evo with good reason. Just sold my second Nexus on ebay. Love the size and weight of the nexus but that's about it. Radio and battery problems galore.
I have only had mine for about 4 days but will give you some comparisons since the evo is still fresh in my mind.
Size: NS is much easier to hold. especially when trying to hold in one handed in portrait. The weight and curves make it feel like it fits in your hand. I always had a problem with the weight and sharp angle of the back wearing into my pinky as that is the finger that would hold all the weight at the bottom in portrait.
Landscape is easier to hold as well... but still don't try to take pictures one handed.
Screen: Colors are much more saturated. I like this. screen is easier to read during the day and very few fingerprints. However whites are a little on the yellow side (warmer as i like my color palette cooler). In low light the screen is just the right brigtness. My wife does not get bothered as much when i leave it on auto brightness at night. That being said there are jagged edges on lines and borders and text if you read with it close. Most of the time you will not notice though. Blacks are AWESOME. Put a black background with white text
camera: Pictures are much better than the evo. options are highly limited though but work well enough for me. have not tried much with the video camera.
UI: I used cm7 with LP on my evo. I put LP on the NS as well. However after a day or so I took it off. I am running stock and have found no reason to root (except that i miss the notification bar widgets but the 4G one does not work yet anyway).....yet. I feel the stock android works and is kind of what CM was trying to achieve anyway + any bonuses they might have.
wifi and 4G: Both work about the same for me. I have seen the NS get further outside then the EVO on occasion so take that for what you will. But i have also seen drop outs on wifi on the NS for no reason.
Battery: battery seems to be better on the NS. I work nights so that throws off any calibration I can do. Will have a better answer next week.
Other: I traded in my evo and got the NS for 150... then got the 50 bucks back the next day for the price drop. so considering i paid 200 for my evo.. i think trading in was a good deal. (was gonna give it to my daughter but she needs to wait awhile)
feel free to ask if you have any other questions and remember yuo do have 30 days just in case something else comes out that may make you question your decision
After selling my second Nexus recently due to battery life and radio issues, I may be down for some of this:
http://thisismynext.com/2011/07/15/samsung-galaxy-ii-within-sprint-pictures/
EVO 4G to EVO 3D to NS4G here.
This is day one with the Nexus and other than the piss poor 4G speed and signal issues I love it (hopefully fixed soon)! I hate Sense.
I won't be able to say no to the SGS2 though. That's what I'm holding my upgrade for.
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i dropped the evo because htc sense interferes with bluetooth performance in my new vechicle.
honestly, i only feel that the nexus has a better camera.
i miss sense so much. the widgets were a big deal to me. and beyond that, there were little software tweaks such as the smart dialer which i couldn't believe were not stock android. also, the nexus is abysmal with signal strength and 4g performance. it also just feels cheap and plastic-y.
i dont believe in modding since non of the roms are totally effective with all features working properly. i hope the nexus update will at least make the phone a bit more bearable. otherwise i will wait patiently for the sprint iphone.
I went from a rooted EVO to a NS4G last week after being disappointed with the 3d. Love it. It's a huge upgrade over the 4G. Hell, it's as fast or faster than the dual core 3d in a lot of instances. You won't be disappointed
Thanks
Thanks all around for everyone that gave feedback. The NS4G's price seems unbeatable right now and everyone's feedback makes me feel like I'd be happy with the upgrade.
I use CM7 for the close-to-stock feel, so having an actual clean, stock UI would make me happy. The main gripes people mentioned wouldn't be features I'd care enough to miss (kickstand, for instance).
Thanks again to all and keep the feedback coming.
I am looking at getting the Nexus-S and i have the EVO-3D, and not so happy with it, with the beastly spec's the 3VO is not near as fast and smooth as I expected.
My Wife has the N-S 4G, and I play with it all the time, I dare say it is faster/smoother than my EVO-3D. Plus the screen is beautiful, and 4" is the perfect size, plus it feels great in the hand, very lightweight and fits in pockets easily.
If coming from the EVO 4G, I highly recommend the Nexus-S 4G.
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EVO 4G to EVO 3D to NS4G here.
This is day one with the Nexus and other than the piss poor 4G speed and signal issues I love it (hopefully fixed soon)! I hate Sense.
I won't be able to say no to the SGS2 though. That's what I'm holding my upgrade for.
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Wait a little longer for the next Nexus, don't get Galaxy S2, the Nexus-Prime, also made by Samsung with a brand new screen technology a HiDef AMOLED+. And will be the first phone on the market running Android 4.0. Plus higher memory and higher RAM than the Galaxy S2 .
Supposed to release by November.
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Wait a little longer for the next Nexus, don't get Galaxy S2, the Nexus-Prime, also made by Samsung with a brand new screen technology a HiDef AMOLED+. And will be the first phone on the market running Android 4.0. Plus higher memory and higher RAM than the Galaxy S2 .
Supposed to release by November.
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I really doubt that.
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I really doubt that.
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What do you doubt, everything he said is correct, at least according to engadget and pocketnow
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i dropped the evo because htc sense interferes with bluetooth performance in my new vechicle.
honestly, i only feel that the nexus has a better camera.
i miss sense so much. the widgets were a big deal to me. and beyond that, there were little software tweaks such as the smart dialer which i couldn't believe were not stock android. also, the nexus is abysmal with signal strength and 4g performance. it also just feels cheap and plastic-y.
i dont believe in modding since non of the roms are totally effective with all features working properly. i hope the nexus update will at least make the phone a bit more bearable. otherwise i will wait patiently for the sprint iphone.
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launcher pro has sense-like widgets so you could use that
Gotta say I agree with most of what was said here. I went from an Evo to a NS4G to an Evo 3D, and I'm really at the point where I'm kicking myself now in some ways. The biggest reason I gave my wife the NS4G and took the Evo 3D on an upgrade was the signal issues. Two days later, the update was announced. I was really starting to kick myself at that point, and then it got delayed. I'm hoping the update comes out before my 30 days are up, so I can see the improvements first hand. If not, I'm gonna have to pick up a Photon 4G. I'm honestly not impressed with the Evo 3D. My wife's Nexus feels faster, to tell the truth. Not to mention, I LOVE the feel of the Nexus in my hand. 4.3 inch screen just feels too big. It's uncomfortable. If the Nexus' signal issue get sorted out, I'd say it's my favorite phone, period. But I just can't live with those kinds of signal problems. My wife can.
Same here sort of. Had an Evo 4G, was fine, great when i was running Cyanogenmod. Then i upgraded to an Evo 3D and its great and all, but i really really want aosp, and quicker updates.
so.... i bought a Nexus S 4g which should arrive tomorrow. Anxious to see how it is. I'll reply with my thoughts after i receive it. I have a feeling I'll be selling my evo 3d... we'll see.
These threads are getting redundant, but I feel like I have to chime in.
I have a very rare illness, called AMOLED. If a phone doesn't have an AMOLED screen, I can't use it </firstworldproblems>.
A while back, I dropped my Nexus One, and somehow cracked the touch screen. I've dropped it dozens of times, onto concrete, tile, wood, but for some reason, this three foot drop onto carpet did it.
After a couple of weeks, I gathered up the guts to try and replace the touch screen, and succeeded! I lost a rubber gasket that sits behind the microphone, and now the mic is no longer insulated from the vibrator motor; call waiting notifications always result in on the other end. Also, I managed to wreck WiFi reception.
This got me looking at new phones, and after finding a good deal on a Rogers RAZR, I bit. Super AMOLED. Not-Samsung (read: real build quality, thumbsup to Motorola for building a SOLID good looking phone). Amazing call quality. Noise cancelling mics. It felt like a true upgrade to the Nexus, rather than that Galaxy junk. It feels awkward in my hands compared to the N1, but I'm starting to get used to it.
I took the N1 apart again to try and fix it before selling it, and managed to get the WiFi working! The mic is also somewhat insulated now. After jamming the microSIM + adapter in there, however, I'm not too thrilled with the RAZR anymore. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's the trackball. Or proper RTL language support. Or the unlocked bootloader. Or the size/weight. Or the battery life (sorry Moto). Even with its dying loudspeaker, rattling vibrator, and finicky touchscreen, I don't want to give the N1 up.
Anyone else having withdrawal? Part of me wants to wait until the (inevitable) Motorola Nexus. I got a new battery for the N1 a couple of months back, and it actually beats the new phone on battery life. I've found brand new loudspeakers from Hong Kong for $5, and for $5 I can't go wrong. I'm probably going to keep my eyes open for a broken one to yank the gasket out of as well.
Right there with ya. My T-Mo bands AMOLED N1 is still going strong. Power button is fine. And original battery still does well! (got mine right at release in Jan 2010)
Thanks to CM7 it still feels like everything I need. And now with Blackrose, CM9 and other ICS roms coming, I plan on another year at least.
Size is great (>4" screen is too big for a phone IMHO), build quality/solidity, trackball wake and notifications (and use in fine cursor positioning!)... its got just what I want. Haven't seen any issue with processing power yet (I don't game on my phone, so 3D performance is immaterial for me) so the 1GHz single core is fine.
Long live the N1!
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Right there with ya. My T-Mo bands AMOLED N1 is still going strong. Power button is fine. And original battery still does well! (got mine right at release in Jan 2010)
Thanks to CM7 it still feels like everything I need. And now with Blackrose, CM9 and other ICS roms coming, I plan on another year at least.
Size is great (>4" screen is too big for a phone IMHO), build quality/solidity, trackball wake and notifications (and use in fine cursor positioning!)... its got just what I want. Haven't seen any issue with processing power yet (I don't game on my phone, so 3D performance is immaterial for me) so the 1GHz single core is fine.
Long live the N1!
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Well said!
I just wish T-Mobile would get off their lazy butt and release something new. My contract just finished but I would prefer to be able to use the N1 as a backup phone.
I wanted to upgrade mine this year but I also find myself very emotionally attached. I am running an ICS rom and even though it's a bit slow and it's beta I can't picture myself using a different phone. This was my first android phone so I feel it's my first child
IMHO our N1 is much better than the current releases in performance.
I bought mine jus 2 months before but researched almost 3 months prior and zeroed on Nexus one.
I m jus lovin it :thumbup:
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I've been using my N1 for exactly 2 years now. I never thought I'd keep it this long, but frankly, no other android phone has come out that I would prefer. The biggest deterrent for me these days is the screen size. I don't want a screen larger than 4 inches, it's just too big for me for a mobile device.
I am eligible for an upgrade, but I haven't seem anything I want. I would get the T-Mo SGS2, but it's not supported by CyanogenMod (stupid TMo swapping the CPU for their "42Mbps 4G"). Guess I'll wait til my Nexus dies, re-up my contract, sell the TMo phone I get for an unlocked phone.
My power button still works. My Case-Mate Tough Case has saved my phone a bunch of times. Got a PowerGen battery a few months back (having two batteries is really nice)
Loving ICS!
-krfan1
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I bought a used N1 not too long ago. I'm having issues with the return key not responding. Even when I hit slightly above the arrow key it doesn't respond most of the time. Otherwise I love the N1. The build quality is excellent. I love the size of it, esp since I have small hands. I wish Google stuck with HTC to make their phones. I'm sorry to say, but Samsung devices feels cheap. They use cheap plastic materials. At least HTC use some metal in their devices. I have the HTC Amaze and that phone is rock solid.
To the OP, I had the Motorola Razr and it's an excellent phone. RF and call quality rocks. But the Razr was too wide for my hands. My hand started hurting after holding it for 20 mins. I returned it. If it wasn't for the size I would have kept the Razr. That phone kicks ass!
P.S. I don't plan on selling my N1. I only had it for less than a month and I'm already attached to it.
sexy nexy
N1was the phone introduced me to android environment that was 2 years a go after having some financial problems i sold it after the financial storm passed my first try was an andrid phone again but none of the phones inclouding many HTCs never gave me the same taste so i went to some second hand shops to find one but no succes many of them i found was cosmeticly in bad shape than i found one laying under a pile of broken phones i asked for its prize the seller said it is bricked knowing it is allmost imposible to brick a nexus1 i took the risk and asked for the prize at the and i was the owner of a bricked but nearly brand new n1 i charged the battery at home knowing if the chargin lite comes on there is hope so it was chargin after coyple of hours i fired the phone and i saw the recovery screen i wiped it many many times an tried CM 7 on it result i am able to write this here with the same phone runing flawlessly i am sure this adventure is only can be possible to a happy end with an nexus one
I Love my Nexus One
Love my N1 still but my 2 biggest complaints are the fake multitouch and no tv out/hdmi capabilities.
I'm still waiting for a new phone that is enough of a bump to upgrade, hopefully the SGS 3 is everything I need.
LOL. I have a thread similar to this going.
Isn't it weird that we get attached to our devices? My SGS2 will be delivered today and I'm excited about it but at the same time I don't want to retire my N1. The phone has been out for so long that there is a ton of good dev and a strong sense of familiarity with it. Now I've got to learn a bunch of new tricks on a phone that isn't getting a lot of dev yet and that has a locked bootloader.
I understand where you are coming from.
i got the mytouch 4g (htc glacier/htc panache)
ive been looking to replace my n1 for a while and always had my eye on the mytouch4g. its an upgrade without breaking the wallet. ill wait for really innovative technology before i spend a lot on a phone
the only thing i miss is the trackball LED notifications. the MT4G has LED notification but only 3 colours
Aside from a couple of (admittedly nasty) manufacturing defects, HTC broke the mold with the N1. The supplied pouch has kept mine pristine after all this time and the OEM dock that i drop it into every evening when i return home still works perfectly too!
The only other phone that i know of that even has that docking ability is the GN, and the dock still can't be found anywhere to buy yet.
Kudos to the CM team too. It's largely down to them that this phone is still amazing to use on a daily basis. I'm sure a year from now they'll have turned ICS into something decent too, and perhaps with a nice GB theme i'll consider flashing it to give my N1 another year of life!
Long may it last!
I'm searching for a new phone since a few month now but nothing seems to be able to replace the n1 even though mine is pretty beat-up (n1 had a date with my washing mashine -> no fm-radio, no camera, no bluetooth).
The only thing that is starting to bother me is low nand memory.
Spec wise there are amazing phones like the sgs2 out there but who whants to have a plastic bomb after owning such a solid build device like the n1? Mine fell to the ground a bunch of times and it allways survived. Even 6 foot on concrete couldn't kill it.
In my opinion there are three important things about a new phone:
- specs
- build quality, design
- community
There is no phone on the market or on the horizon that will be able to be top notch at all those fields.
Those are the phones I think about:
- Galaxy Nexus -> humongous plastic beast (specs +, comm ++, build -)
- SGS II -> similar to the GN but smaller (specs +, comm +, build -)
- Sensation -> bad community, "low" ram (specs o, comm o, build +)
- G2x / Optimus Speed -> plastic + huge bezel (specs +, comm o, build o)
- Nexus S -> (specs o, comm ++, build o)
- Evo 3D -> Sensation with 1Gb Ram worse screen, battery life and no community (specs +, comm -, build o)
- Atrix -> (specs +, comm o, build o)
I think atm the best option seems to be the sensation since build quality is a major point to me. I can live with not so great specs.
But I'm not sure if the community is big enough for a crack flasher .
Hi,
I have a mint perfect Nexus One which I bought on release day. The phone has absolutely no physical blemishes and apart from it getting a little old in the tooth, it has been the perfect phone for me.
It was a phone that never failed to impress me and any other people who wanted to compare it to their ***insert choice of mobile phone / operating software***
So many people decided to choose Android after using my Nexus One and that in itself is testament to how good this phone really was! And in a lot of instances, respectfully still is.
I now use the Galaxy Nexus and my wife uses the Nexus S.
My Nexus One is now on vacation... something it definitely has earned.
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I was extremely sad when i let go of my N1 :-(. I wish i had it back.. I had it since the very first day it was available and had it two years and it was so awesome! If You still have one DON'T SELL it!!! Trust me.
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I was extremely sad when i let go of my N1 :-(. I wish i had it back.. I had it since the very first day it was available and had it two years and it was so awesome! If You still have one DON'T SELL it!!! Trust me.
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never ... or at least not so fast the sad thing is that after 2 years a proper sucessor still has to be found.. i hope for htc making the next nexus phone maybe we can have it all ... again
Hey guys!
I also love my Nexus one, it was a nicely balanced phone: it looked good, great build quality, had good specs and had all the things you'd need.
It was a little hard choosing a new phone to replace it. But like op I have the amoled thing So that narrowed down my choices alot. I personally feel that the nexus line is the line to get if using android, you get a long life support and overall the phones aren't too shabby.
That obviously left me with a galaxy nexus. I feel the only thing it can improve on Is the camera (it's not crap, just not omfgbbq quality, but it's very fast) and build quality (feels much better than the nexus s and previous galaxy). But I think a large phone with a metal body would be heavy. The curved, featureless front is very sexy though...
I'm overall very content with gnex
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