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Are there any stable ROMs floating around for the Galaxy S that are just vanilla Android 2.1 or 2.2 and work with all the hardware features of the phone? I hate all the crap UI junk Samsung (and every other manufacturer) throws on top of Android installations.
There seem to be lots of threads with various different ROMs in the development section, none of which seem to be vanilla.
kgk888 said:
Are there any stable ROMs floating around for the Galaxy S that are just vanilla Android 2.1 or 2.2 and work with all the hardware features of the phone? I hate all the crap UI junk Samsung (and every other manufacturer) throws on top of Android installations.
There seem to be lots of threads with various different ROMs in the development section, none of which seem to be vanilla.
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I'm actively keeping a lookout for the same thing.
So far no AOSP Froyo build exists that I can find.
I think a kitchen build from modaco is the next best thing (but currently can only build from 2.1)
also hope someone comes up with a solution for this.
any one can check out this?
"[ROMs] Monaco Releases"
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-galaxy-s/130486-roms-monaco-releases.html
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I'm not sure how many people seen this on here, but I've decided to bring it here. One link is the Deodexed version of the build that comes with all Galaxy S including TW 3.0. The other in case you don't like TW is the Vanilla Android....meaning clean, no TW, just plain ol' Android.
GalaxySDeodexed.zip
VanillaGalaxyS.update.zip
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Is there's a Vanilla Galaxy S update?!!
Ok so the only way you can run stock Eclair 2.1 or Froyo 2.2 is to use a Google Nexus One, which is already somewhat long in the tooth compared to new hardware?
Is that the approach for the foreseeable future with regards to Android devices? They are all just going to be loaded with worthless shovelware and UIs that bog down the performance? If that's the case I'll just stick with my old phone and wait for Google and the manufacturers to get their heads out of their collective asses.
Let's all hope that gingerbread will stop this BS ...
I'm eager to get my hands on a clean eclair/froyo release without the TW, though i have to say that it wouldn't be so bad without all the lags. I just wish we all could download the freebies that samsung provide seperately.
According to the publications so far, Android 3.0 (AKA Gingerbread) might just be the cure for all this nonsense... hopefully google will do the job with the UI improvements and stop all the manufacturers of waisting their and OUR time and nerves ..
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I'm eager to get my hands on a clean eclair/froyo release without the TW, though i have to say that it wouldn't be so bad without all the lags. I just wish we all could download the freebies that samsung provide seperately.
According to the publications so far, Android 3.0 (AKA Gingerbread) might just be the cure for all this nonsense... hopefully google will do the job with the UI improvements and stop all the manufacturers of waisting their and OUR time and nerves ..
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Yeah, I am definitely all for manufacturers allowing the separate downloads. AFAIK, it sounds like LG is going to do this better than any other manufacturer in the short-term and it's a trend I hope they keep up. They will launch their own app store, which I heard criticized but it does exactly what the majority of users want, free apps without bloatware. Sure, we would prefer to have those apps in the marketplace, rather than one more closed market created segregation, but these aren't software companies and if this helps them make more $ due to them being able to differentiate their product with software and by having less bloat then it's win-win to anyone who takes them up on both.
We will still see manufacturers, at least some, trying to dress up Android in the hopes they can create an HTC-Sense like following even through Gingerbread in the hopes of recreating HTC-like mindshare and growth.
Any chance of a vanilla rom?, no Samsung software, no themes, just plain old regular Google Android?. I dont care if its 2.1 or 2.2, I had a very nice vanilla rom on my Droid X, and I miss that. As it is I hate this phone intensely due to the lack of finding a Vanilla rom.
Does vanilla exist?
no the rom is not functional yet, but why don't you just apply the aosp theme
Super Clean, adw, asop theme. About as close as you'll get at the moment. It works well and looks stock.
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Jt's super clean and aosp theme by retro kid is what I use.
The feeling I've gotten is that it takes a ton of work to make AOSP (vanilla) run on this device, making sure drivers work etc. There's not a whole lot of reason for them to make all that effort when 2.2 is around the corner. Once 2.2 and its source are released I think we will see an AOSP rom, but not likely before. As the others suggest try a rom like blackhole and go with an aosp like theme.
Actually, there are a lot of really cool functions that you lose if everything was aosp
Should not be in the development forum.
As far as vanilla android, its being worked on but right now there are no developments. Samsung hacked together the RIL used to communicate with the cell radio from a 1.5 device to work with our device, not easy to work with
If the new update is not out, well the sad truth is we will not see 2.2 for a long time. Ive swapped my phone out so many times Verizon has given me the choice of choosing a different phone.
I might have to move on myself...ive given android enough time to tickle my fancy. And im just sad the developers just dont want to make decent apps. Its so weird that a phone with such great specs as the galaxy s just isnt supported by devs, the carriers or even samsung. There has to be much more of a problem with the phone than we actually know about.
It is supported by developers. Very much so. However they cannot work with the garbage code,and this 1.5 ril bull****.
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I wasnt really talkin about the Hacking Community Devs. I meant Market Devs, carriers and manufacturers. Hacking community can only do so much!
BTW off topic did anyone see how Microsoft is workign together with HACKING DEVS? Smart move , good for them.
Did you see that the big hack was for a whopping custom ringtone? Damn. Go Microsoft. Hack in a song that plays when someone called. I've only had that functionality for the past 5+ years.
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The windows phone 7 unlocker was pulled because Microsoft is supposedly going to and the option of enabling homebrew on windows phones. Supposedly of course.
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The windows phone 7 unlocker was pulled because Microsoft is supposedly going to and the option of enabling homebrew on windows phones. Supposedly of course.
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Far from. Microsoft is in no way supporting hackers they just aren't taking an Apple stand against it. Go google the article they basically tell you if you mess up your device you're on your own. Same story different wording. Microsoft will never enable homebrew. Think about their history.
Actually they jailbroke wp7 then microsoft got together to work with them on opening restrictions.... very cool move!!!
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BTW if you use custom roms and root your android phone.........your on your own also!!! Warrenty is dead!!
Noone gives you warrenty when you alter the software. NOONE! But i think its a great move by microsoft.
I personally have alot of respect for microsoft. I think that windows phone 7 is a great product.
BTW we are way off topic haha.
Ok i know a few will agree and many will not but i don't see what the big deal is with Gingerbread.
I looked at the visual interface and it's nothing new....No New interface( ui )
looked into the app drawer and nothing new there either..
the on;ly thing i see different is the Keyboard.....
Htc Sense is a real achievement when you're looking for something New and fresh...
Miui also is something BUG and NEW ( I don't feel like Gingerbread has lived up to all the expectations.... BUT I CAN BE WRONG . LOL )
So i've opened this thread to get some insight on what you all are really so hype up about......
Find out by urself, its pretty nice.
Here
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=difference+between+gingerbread+and+froyo
Ugh....wrong section go to q&a
Another thing... This is Android development!!! Not "Q&A" google whats new on Gingerbread 2.3! www.google.com
This thread is poop. Sense is Over rated, MIUI is amazing as an iOS UI copy, Stock 2.3 is clean and to the point.
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-android-2-2-froyo-and-android-2-3-gingerbread/
For starters its much faster and smooth. This comes from tighter organization of resources from what I have read, and this also helps with battery performance. and even if nothing else, this alone makes it a good upgrade. I mean even if you think of it as Android 2.2 just with better battery and seamless performance it is a very desirable thing.
But mainly it seems that the upgrades are in the background of the OS and not to the UI. Although that is not the most exciting thing the effect was immediately perceivable by me when I picked it up in Best Buy, which I was happy with.
And finally, I guess this is personal preference, but for those that like vanilla Android this a nice upgrade. Even the Froyo 2.2 that came on my Nexus One had some spamware in it (Amazon MP3, Facebook, Twitter, etc) but this comes with strictly Google apps, which is great. I have found that I personally dont get along with Sense or any of the other skins. Personally I havent found anything superior to Vanilla android with Launcher Pro (except CyanogenMod , which wont install on my Nexus One b/c I dont want to void the warranty )
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For starters its much faster and smooth. This comes from tighter organization of resources from what I have read, and this also helps with battery performance. and even if nothing else, this alone makes it a good upgrade. I mean even if you think of it as Android 2.2 just with better battery and seamless performance it is a very desirable thing.
But mainly it seems that the upgrades are in the background of the OS and not to the UI. Although that is not the most exciting thing the effect was immediately perceivable by me when I picked it up in Best Buy, which I was happy with.
And finally, I guess this is personal preference, but for those that like vanilla Android this a nice upgrade. Even the Froyo 2.2 that came on my Nexus One had some spamware in it (Amazon MP3, Facebook, Twitter, etc) but this comes with strictly Google apps, which is great. I have found that I personally dont get along with Sense or any of the other skins. Personally I havent found anything superior to Vanilla android with Launcher Pro (except CyanogenMod , which wont install on my Nexus One b/c I dont want to void the warranty )
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Atleast this guy isn't a smartass..
he responded to the Question that the OP of the thread needed.
Thank you for your grateful opinion.
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So you followed me here with you no useful information . Live and change a life
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hahaha great!
Hey,
I am NOT a dev, but I would like to know what kind of work work is going to be required now that gingerbread is on the forefront?
For example, VPlayer, doesn't work... it FC... How much work is it going to take to get the program back up and running???
Im just asking because, as much as I hate to admit it, fragmentation (as everyone calls it) is going to start causing issues. I get that google wants to offer the best and the latest and greatest, but if everytime a new API get sent out, and devs' have to rewrite their work, how much time is it going to take to get the proggy back up and running??
Thanks!
Theo
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I am NOT a dev,
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You should've stop right there.
You realize that at this point only 1(!) phone is running official 2.3 Gingerbread and it's Samsung Nexus S. It's a drop in a bucket comparing to all of the phones that are running official 2.x firmware.
Furthermore, if an app is properly developed against 1.x or 2.x SDK then it will work with gingerbreadas as all APIs are future-compliant. The only problem would be is if an app is developed using 2.3 APIs and you would try to use it on earlier roms or if it used undocumented/unofficial APIs that were not supposed to be used and were discontinued in future releases.
We don't know what 's causing vPlayer not to work, could be many things (kernel, unfinished rom development, missing libs) or it could be things in vPlayer that were improperly implemented.
Send a log to developer and see if he/she can help you. Given that you're not running official (or at least stable!) release, you may not get far though.
But please, don't jump on that "fragmentation" train, it's not nearly as bad as people make it out to be.
borodin1 said:
You should've stop right there.
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First off, I didn't ask for you to be a ****, if I would have posted this in the dev forum that would have prompted you to respond as such.
borodin1 said:
You realize that at this point only 1(!) phone is running official 2.3 Gingerbread and it's Samsung Nexus S. It's a drop in a bucket comparing to all of the phones that are running official 2.x firmware.
Furthermore, if an app is properly developed against 1.x or 2.x SDK then it will work with gingerbreadas as all APIs are future-compliant. The only problem would be is if an app is developed using 2.3 APIs and you would try to use it on earlier roms or if it used undocumented/unofficial APIs that were not supposed to be used and were discontinued in future releases.
We don't know what 's causing vPlayer not to work, could be many things (kernel, unfinished rom development, missing libs) or it could be things in vPlayer that were improperly implemented.
Send a log to developer and see if he/she can help you. Given that you're not running official (or at least stable!) release, you may not get far though.
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Thanks for the answer, i guess.
borodin1 said:
But please, don't jump on that "fragmentation" train, it's not nearly as bad as people make it out to be.
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Now that that is out of the way, can I ask you HOW you can honestly say that Android isn't fragmented. Seriously ask your self... I LOVE android, I really do, G1-cliq-MT3G-Nexus One-HD2(androided)-MT4G, but I can't even lie about that. There is 9 API levels!! 2.3, 2.2, 2.1, 2.0.1, 2.0, 1.6, 1.5, 1.1, 1.0.
NOW I DO UNDERSTAND THAT ALMOST 45% ARE ON 2.2 and 40% ARE ON 2.1.
Ok, so now most apps are going to be working on that 84% of phones running level 7+.
But this ALSO doesn't account for the manufacture API's that are implemented buy some of them, which I KNOW causes some problems. (skype on the Samsung Galaxy Series) just to name one very big one. Skype works on other devices with 2.1, but it doesn't on the Samsung 2.1? as a consumer, I'd ask wtf, even with their limited knowledge of android.
Fragmentation is defined as is the inability to "write once and run anywhere". Rovio complained about this. Albeit not directly, but they said that they were having issues with people on some phones, with some versions of software, and that it wasn't going to work across the board.
I hate to admit it but there are certain things that need to be done to insure that Android will not only be the "Mobile OS" but it will also be the demanded one (IMHO):
1. Cut the bull**** manufacture stuff out, make only ONE set of API's, with 0 proprietary API's. Make it stuff that you can get if you want through the Android Market (custom UI's and such).
2. Control the god-damn market, find spammers, find shady devs re-uploading their apps multiple times to get ad dollars.
3. Get everybody on board to updates, require that all devices with X specifications be updated Y months after a source is released. That will get again get everyone on the same API level, and will make all apps compatible (maybe slow).
4. For the love of all holy, USE THE BEST COMPONENTS YOU CAN FIND! AND MAKE IT A STANDARD At least for the primary functions of the phone. For example, the Nexus One (my fave so far) did NOT have a competent touch screen, 2 point, and a BAD 2 point at that, and that is considered to be the new dev phone. Well who the HELL would want to dev for a platform that can only recognize two points (barely) that doesn't always even get them right? I sure as hell wouldn't. Finally I get the MT4G, the FIRST thing i did was test the touch screen, and guess what... It still is sub-par. 4 points, where my friends Galaxy S can do 6 or something. Now you are going to ask me, who uses 6 points idiot? Some games, do, and to top **** off, if you can't recognize 2 points properly, close together, how can some of the basic multi-touch functions work? (google maps on the N1)
I'm sorry for the rant, but I'm realistic. A mobile platform can't win like this.
http://www.comp.nus.edu.sg/~damithch/df/device-fragmentation.htm
Hey guys,
So I think it's about time we start making a big list of things that people want to see from Jellybean. A few weeks back the new CEO of Samsung announced that they are going to be focusing on software in the future, and although he didn't mention which OS (Bada or Android) I think it's pretty safe to assume he meant Android giving that it sells on the companies flagship device, the S3.
I personally think this new focus is fantastic, in the past the only thing that out me off Samsung devices was the software and even when I got my S3 home and saw that terrible keyboard they give you I was like 'not this again', personally I think HTC hits the spot with Sense but doesn't have the hardware right, and Samsung has the hardware right but just can't get the software spot on, though I must say the S3 is MUCH better than the S2 software efforts.
Anyway, enough of my rambling, what do you want to see in Jellybean? I've started off by saying what I'd like;
- Improved Messaging application.
- Good Project Butter integration.
- Slightly more reliable PC connections.
- Work on the Radios.
- Good Google Now integration.
- Improvements with S Voice and maybe it's own voice rather than the Google lady.
- TouchWiz with a bit more to it, better Samsung made widgets and just a bit more to it, like Sense 4.
- Personalized Skinning for TouchWiz.
- Better Camera app.
What I want may not be the same as you, but sound off below ;D
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jaaystott said:
- Improved Messaging application.
- Good Project Butter integration.
- Slightly more reliable PC connections.
- Work on the Radios.
- Good Google Now integration.
- Improvements with S Voice and maybe it's own voice rather than the Google lady.
- TouchWiz with a bit more to it, better Samsung made widgets and just a bit more to it, like Sense 4.
- Personalized Skinning for TouchWiz.
- Better Camera app.
What I want may not be the same as you, but sound off below ;D
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-We'll get the same messaging application.
-Good project butter integration??
Its in the code.
-kies is ****.
-probably.
-quite possible.
-why would they keep s-voice and google now?
-lighter touchwiz or no touchwiz, as good as this iteration of TW is, stock jellybean is a lot nicer to look at.
-not going to happen.
-meh.
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@ op.
we can discuss the same in the existing jellybeans thread, posting different thread for the same cause is not going to help any of our members
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736581&highlight=jelly
A good sense like rom(atleast comparable)!!!!!!
I want it to cook dinner for me and clean the house..
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Nice thought still not possible
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i want a gud noise free camera only with gud audio recording in video.
Ios/wp-like smoothness, that's all I'm asking for.
bala_gamer said:
@ op.
we can discuss the same in the existing jellybeans thread, posting different thread for the same cause is not going to help any of our members
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736581&highlight=jelly
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Closed, there is a thread on this already as per the quote above, search before posting or opening a new thread.
Thank you.