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This is an easy way to tell if you have an Epson or Nova...
Use the Power Control Widget to switch your brightness, if it changes brightness instantly without fading then you should have a Epson display. If it changes brightness by fading in and out then you should have a Nova display.
Sorry if this has already been noted.
Thanks for all the great support you guys keep it up.
Confirmed with my Nova display showing the fading.
Same here. I have 003 with a Novatec -- verified both by dmesg and the tip the OP provided.
so based on what you are telling me, I should have an Epson display since mine dims instantly. I have 003 hardware.
So which one has the 30fps limitation???
@!! [email protected]! k!ng Evo!!!!
jm5503 said:
So which one has the 30fps limitation???
@!! [email protected]! k!ng Evo!!!!
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Both. The limit is in the code of Evo.
Danny DiMarzio said:
This is an easy way to tell if you have an Epson or Nova...
Use the Power Control Widget to switch your brightness, if it changes brightness instantly without fading then you should have a Epson display. If it changes brightness by fading in and out then you should have a Nova display.
Sorry if this has already been noted.
Thanks for all the great support you guys keep it up.
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Assuming the same for Settings>Sounds&display>Brightness ?? Mine fades and I am hardware 003. Hmmm
003 hardware, epson. Mine changes brightness right away.
03 nova.
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I'm on 003 with nova. Should I be sad?
Sent from my EVO from the Apple Store.
Mine fades so I must have a Nova? Is one better than the other (Nova/Epson)?
My hardware is 0002
LearnIIBurn said:
I'm on 003 with nova. Should I be sad?
Sent from my EVO from the Apple Store.
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Personal preference pretty much, Nova is brighter with more vivid colors and no screen tearing with the fps cap lifted and Epson is more accurate colors but less bright and less vivid as well as screen tearing with the FPS cap lifted.
If your a stickler for color accuracy then your better of with Epson otherwise Nova seems like the better screen to me.
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Personal preference pretty much, Nova is brighter with more vivid colors and no screen tearing with the fps cap lifted and Epson is more accurate colors but less bright and less vivid as well as screen tearing with the FPS cap lifted.
If your a stickler for color accuracy then your better of with Epson otherwise Nova seems like the better screen to me.
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It is worth noting that neither fps fix is perfect, both screens can experience tearing and at current more details are known about the nova vs the epson, possibly lending itself better to having a more thorough fix sooner.
As far as apperances go, it's largely personal preference. Personally I've seen how bright the epson can get (given that my phone has an epson), and it can get quite a bit brighter than I'd comfortably set for myself in actual use.
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Personal preference pretty much, Nova is brighter with more vivid colors and no screen tearing with the fps cap lifted and Epson is more accurate colors but less bright and less vivid as well as screen tearing with the FPS cap lifted.
If your a stickler for color accuracy then your better of with Epson otherwise Nova seems like the better screen to me.
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Although the Epson has more issues with tearing, it also gets about 10 more FPS with the most up-to-date versions of the kernel than the Nova.
Of course, that may all change as the FPS fixes become more robust.
The Epson takes longer to initialize as well. If you turn on your phone and it has a backlit dim scree for a second it is an Epson. It does the same thing when it is turning off. My Nova didn't do this.
OK so I have in front of me a novatec and epson unit.
I need to choose which one to keep and it is killin' me, for several reasons.
Off the bat. Pro's of both.
Novatec:
Looks better/more vibrant.
Brighter.
Changing brightness always fades in and out. (Noticeable from power control, screen timeout, and brightness control in the settings menu)
Epson:
More realistic.
White's and black's look better.
Problems. They both have light leakage (same amount).
However, the novatec has a stuck pixel which is why I got a replacement, also, though it looks better the coloration is very slightly off (strange, almost pinkish hue on white's).
Epson sometimes shows horizontal lines upon close inspection (especially on grays) where the novatec doesnt. Also looks slightly washed out..
The last problem that is really bothering me.. It doesn't fade in/out lol!
I know it sounds stupid, but why would a different LCD change something like that? Which is clearly software.
Is there any way to bring that back?
It just seems like a really stupid thing to disable a feature that is clearly aesthetic for only the epson's.
I found one reason why the immediate brightness change is beneficial.
When you turn off a nova and turn it on, for a second it's at max brightness then ramps down to the set brightness.
Epson is immediate .
I think that is why they chose that method.
I'm still stuck here.. I want the higher quality screen, but i get mixed reviews from the web.
Most people think that the novatec looks better, but is less accurate.
I would have to agree with that.
So then which one is higher quality?
I would like some background on Novatec/k/ch. I cant find much about them other than this website.
www.novatech.co.uk
At least for epson I have heard of them before and they are known for their imaging products.
The only time you will notice a difference is when you have two in front of you.
Or you obsess about it enough to research it to much and create a post on a forum about it.
I have a Novatec and I am glad I do. I don't like the look of the epsons that I have seen. And mine fades nicely.
I'm a huge fan of my Nova. I've seen both versions, and I much prefer the Nova's.
One thing I did notice between the two though: on my Nova, I can see vertical yellowish/off-white lines on pure white screens. Look closely, you'll see it too most likely. Bugs the sh*t outta me
But on the Epsons, I also saw the horizontal greyish lines the OP mentioned.
Just my $.02
So keep a nova with a stuck sub-pixel (only noticed it on blue), or an epson with an otherwise flawless display.
Last option is to complain and have them ship another one and hope it's a nova.
Why can't I have the whites of an epson with a nova screen! DAMNIT
Side by side with my friend's Evo. Nova vs Epson, and I had a hard time seeing a difference as far as brightness and color. I really didn't take much time to compare the two however.
It seems like the entire spectrum of color is shifted slightly warmer for the novas.
The Epsons are probably better since the spectrum is baseline and more accurate.
Pure white #FFF is perfectly white on the Epson.
On the nova its warmer, slightly yellow but that gives everything a more vibrant/colorful appearance..
All I need know now is that epsons are reliable and high quality lcd's
I just got an Epic.
Reading several threads across the Galaxy line, there is apparently a variation in screen color temperatures. From my readings, I see a pattern where perhaps the newer/replacement units have yellower screens. At the same time, those newer units also get darker in auto brightness mode than the older units.
From my own observation, the color temp gets cooler as the brightness increases.
Is it possible that Samsung tweaked the auto brightness so that the phone now gets darker in order to save the battery? So perhaps the different color temp observed are a function of how bright the screen is?
I don't care for the yellowish screen on my new Epic. I like a cooler/colder screen. Comparing the Epic next to my LCD Evo and Touch Pro 2, it is outright yellow. Comparing the 3 phones next to my Nexus One, the N1's screen looks pink. (I can post some pics tomorrow).
Bottom line, I'm trying to decide if I should try to return/exchange the phone for another and hope for the best. I read that there are some potential software solutions out of XDA, but I prefer to have a phone that is natively "cold".
Any input would be great.
Thanks.
Mine's pretty yellow. :-( In brighter light, it is not a problem. Darker screen is the result of a software update. Got mine on launch day.
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APOLAUF said:
Mine's pretty yellow. :-( In brighter light, it is not a problem. Darker screen is the result of a software update. Got mine on launch day.
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Thanks for the information. Before the software update, when the screen didn't get as dark, did it appear less yellow at the [pre-update] low brightness?
In other words, does the screen now look more yellow than ever since the update and darker screen?
Cheers.
I got my Epic on Oct 1st, and I haven't noticed this yellowish at all, but maybe I need to do a thorough side by side with an older model?
Did you get any pics to post up yet? I'm interested to see this
Edit: Sorry, just saw you said you can't post pics until tomorrow.
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Thanks for the information. Before the software update, when the screen didn't get as dark, did it appear less yellow at the [pre-update] low brightness?
In other words, does the screen now look more yellow than ever since the update and darker screen?
Cheers.
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Just as yellow as always. Post-update, the screen dims more. At this point, it appears yellower. My Captivate also now dims more, post-update, and seems bluer at dimmest setting.
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The only time I've had problems with my screen was when my phone had gotten damage from water. I'm on my 2nd epic and this one doesn't have any yellowish tints. Only about a week old now.
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I picked up my Epic on 9/29 and don't see any yellow tint at all. I'm not an expert here but I think I would notice a tint like that. My blacks are very clear and dark also. I did notice that it seemed to run on auto brightness a little darker than it had...that was probably the D-118 update after I had it for only a few days.
I will follow this thread and see where it goes.
I don't think the screen color variation is based on release date. I have two of them since 8/30. One of them has a yellowish tint compared to the other. They both have the same DI18 update.
It seems like a coin-toss what screen color comes. I wish we have a tool that would allow easy color temperature adjustment.
I read a thread about a way using a modified kernel, but it would be nice to have an .apk that works (even if it requires root).
I got one on launch day that had more of a blue tint to it. I got another one last week that was a refurb, and it definitely is more yellow.
Weird. I just got mine today and it's very cool (read: blue) compared to my Evo... being a photo guy, this drives me nuts. I prefer warmer diplays.
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I have one of the cooler screens, and I kinda like it.
My thoughts:
1) Samsung is trying to extend the life of the blue oLEDs by altering the color temperature of screens. Since this seems to be happening independently of ROM version, it's probably something they're doing with firmware.
2) (IMO More Likely) The screens on different phones came from different assembly lines or different production runs, and have a slight variance in color production. The production date of the phone wouldn't necessarily matter in this case.
The only project I know that deals with the color temperature of the screen is voodoo:
http://project-voodoo.org/color
I currently have it running on my ROM. It adds a new "very low" brightness setting a the bottom that's much dimmer than even the lowest one available in DI18. (Note: it doesn't interpolate levels between them, either. Meaning there is a big jump in brightness from the voodoo lowest level to the DI18 lowest level, which is the next "notch" up on the slider.) It also adds a brightness level at the very highest brightness, which noticeably makes the display warmer. (The highest and next-to-highest brightness notches are the same brightness, the difference being the highest one is warmer.) At this point of its development, it's really of no use if you want to make your screen warmer at all brightness levels.
At any rate, the project leads me to believe that, with further development, we could have an app that allows us to freely change all the color settings for the display for all brightness levels, save them to profiles, etc.
The idea of the screen getting warmer as you decrease its brightness might be a natural phenomena, or just perceptual. In my experience, colors usually seem warmer as you decrease the intensity of the light. This is even true of light on a physical object.
My screen looks awesome. No yellowing or anything. I wonder if there is a difference based on who made the screen for that particular Galaxy S phone? I remember reading an article when all the Galaxy S phones started rolling out saying that Samsung was having trouble with the manufacturing of the AMOLED screens. Perhaps they started cutting corners.
However, there also seems to be issues with auto-brightness, etc...I have that disabled on my phone and the brightness set on its lowest setting (which is plenty bright for me and all my viewing needs) which may be the difference? But, I have cranked it up from time to time just to show others and I still don't notice any yellowing.
Is there a specific test image or something where one could view that would show/exaggerate the effect people are talking about? I would be curious to see...
Thanks for the great input and information.
Here is something interesting for the Nexus One screen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745248
Never noticed any of the sort.
Forgive My Brevity. To Be Or Not To Be...
I havent noticed it either. Had mine since day one
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745248
Should help in this case once Froyo arrives
Here is a quick picture taken by a Touch Pro 1. Sorry about the quality. I can try to take better ones if there is interest.
From left to right - Evo, Epic, Nexus 1, Touch Pro 2. All with auto-brightness on.
In real life:
The Evo looks whiter (cooler)
The Epic looks much yellower (warmer, almost greenish)
The N1 doesn't look as pink as it appears, but looks the darkest
The Touch Pro 2 looks the whitest (coolest)
To my eyes, the Evo/Touch Pro 2 looks good. Although the picture shows the Epic looking pleasant and only slightly warmer, the white elements (clouds in wallpaper, browser backgrounds etc.) look yellow/green.
Edit: Notice the Menu, Home, Back, Search menu LEDs look whiter than the screen. See the contrast between the two makes the screen look yellower.
I've owned 3 Epics since launch day. First one had a good screen, 2nd one had a yellow tint, 3rd was perfect.
The build dates of the first 2 were 10.08 and my current one is 10.09.
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I've owned 3 Epics since launch day. First one had a good screen, 2nd one had a yellow tint, 3rd was perfect.
The build dates of the first 2 were 10.08 and my current one is 10.09.
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By perfect, do you mean that it is not yellowish? It's interesting that the first two phones with the same build date has two different color screens...
The Epic I have has a 10.10 build date. It's yellow at dimmed levels and color temp gets cooler as it brightens up.
To the Community:
I just yesterday picked this puppy up at BB and, quite honestly, am very disappointed in the display, specifically the hue. All the yellows are washed out -- WTF???!!
Resolution is awesome but the white background when browsing looks like I'm looking at it under old-style fluorescent lighting -- YUCK!
I've played with all the Settings > Display > Screen mode modes and there's barely a change when going from one to another.
Is this correctible? Is it a TouchWiz thing? Will a different ROM help?
(FWIW -- I'm upgrading from a Xoom running Eos ROMs and other than the resolution, it was gorgeous. The Xoom was a great device: heavy, granted, but the bezel width really did set the standard that tablet manufacturers seem to be migrating towards.)
PLEASE TELL ME THERE'S A SOLUTION!!! THE COLOR RENDITION IS SO UNPALATABLE I VERY WELL MIGHT RETURN IT AFTER LUSTING AFTER IT FOR MONTHS!
Thanks.
Sounds like a hardware problem. I don't see how Touchwiz (or any ROM) could be responsible for that. Better have it exchanged.
Sounds like you're using reading mode
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Color accuracy is pretty decent on the Note 10.1’s display. As always I’m reporting color data using Samsung’s Movie mode, which remains the most accurate setting of those offered. Grayscale performance is excellent, but our GMB and saturations tests put the Note 10.1 on par with the original Nexus 7. It’s definitely a better calibrated display than any other Samsung Galaxy Note tablet we’ve reviewed. Not quite on par with the new Nexus 7, but getting very close.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7378/samsung-galaxy-note-101-2014-edition-review/3
My (AMOLED) N3 displaying the same yellow background as my N10.1-14...
My "whites"...
The screen on this amazing and nothing short of that.
You must have a bad tablet...
My screen is great.
I have minor light bleed on bottom edge but thats not bothersome and barely noticeable.
Never had any problems with color rendition. Not to the extent you said it sounds like. Its been pretty natural looking for me.
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I dont know what these numbers mean but here is a comparison against a crapple ipad: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-10.1-2014-vs-Apple-iPad-4_id3445
Don't get me wrong, I like the screen a lot. But it is not perfect. I think the pentile design shows when certain colors are next to each other (producing less than perfect transition from one color to another).
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To the Community:
I just yesterday picked this puppy up at BB and, quite honestly, am very disappointed in the display, specifically the hue. All the yellows are washed out -- WTF???!!
Resolution is awesome but the white background when browsing looks like I'm looking at it under old-style fluorescent lighting -- YUCK!
I've played with all the Settings > Display > Screen mode modes and there's barely a change when going from one to another.
Is this correctible? Is it a TouchWiz thing? Will a different ROM help?
(FWIW -- I'm upgrading from a Xoom running Eos ROMs and other than the resolution, it was gorgeous. The Xoom was a great device: heavy, granted, but the bezel width really did set the standard that tablet manufacturers seem to be migrating towards.)
PLEASE TELL ME THERE'S A SOLUTION!!! THE COLOR RENDITION IS SO UNPALATABLE I VERY WELL MIGHT RETURN IT AFTER LUSTING AFTER IT FOR MONTHS!
Thanks.
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Was it exactly the same when you first turned it on or did it get the yellow cast after some use?
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Was it exactly the same when you first turned it on or did it get the yellow cast after some use?
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No, there's no yellow cast: rather, the yellow's are washed out and not at all vibrant. White backgrounds have a blue-ish gray-ish tone and the only analogy I can muster is that it's like the color temperature is "cool," as opposed to "warm." Canary yellows come out looking dull gold; skin tones are very off-putting and for a top-dollar device, it's really not pleasant.
Side-by-side with my GN2, the colors are much truer on my GN2, hands down.
@BarryH_GEG -- thanks for the useful post; I am using movie mode.
@bootx1 -- thank you, too, but I'm not using reading mode.
Here are some screenshots from today's XDA main page.
1st photo is from Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 ed., second is Galaxy Note 2; third is a side-by-side with the Galaxy Note 2 on the left (the dude's skin is a little reddish on the left but it's not bad -- the skin tone on the right is actually much worse).
WTF????
Thanks.
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Thanks for the useful post; I am using movie mode.
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I leave both my N3 and N10.1-14 on Adapt Display. On the N3 it's the only way to achieve maximum brightness in bright conditions; like an additional 150 nits. I'm not sure if the N10.1-14's Adapt Display works the same way. I have to confess, while Movie Mode may be more accurate I've come to like overly saturated colors on my mobile devices.
whatllitbenext said:
No, there's no yellow cast: rather, the yellow's are washed out and not at all vibrant. White backgrounds have a blue-ish gray-ish tone and the only analogy I can muster is that it's like the color temperature is "cool," as opposed to "warm." Canary yellows come out looking dull gold; skin tones are very off-putting and for a top-dollar device, it's really not pleasant.
Side-by-side with my GN2, the colors are much truer on my GN2, hands down.
@BarryH_GEG -- thanks for the useful post; I am using movie mode.
@bootx1 -- thank you, too, but I'm not using reading mode.
Here are some screenshots from today's XDA main page.
1st photo is from Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 ed., second is Galaxy Note 2; third is a side-by-side with the Galaxy Note 2 on the left (the dude's skin is a little reddish on the left but it's not bad -- the skin tone on the right is actually much worse).
WTF????
Thanks.
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To me......... In your (photo 3) side by side photo's I think the device on the left is to red and has to much color saturation the tablet looks good to me in that photo....
There is at lease 2 places in the control panel of the P-600 to adjust color, have you seen them?
If you not happy with the way it looks and you can exchange it you should. If you don't you will always have this thought in the back of your mind.
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as another user said, it sounds like reading mode is turned on make sure it's off. It probably unlikely that this is the problem though since the the only app that defaults with reading mode on is play books.
Thank you for your responses.
I'm not quite sure how to say this without sounding impolite but several of you seem not to have read my posts completely, so please allow me to start over.
My yellows are very washed out: what ought to be bright canary yellows are dull gold. For example: the yellow in the Chrome logo is what I define as "yellow." On the GM10.1, 2014 Ed. it appears gold and dull.
Skin tones are wan and blue-ish.
White web page areas are gray-blue-ish.
Overall color temperature is "cool."
Reading mode does warm things up a bit...but still, I can't get any combination of settings where yellows "pop".
Settings > Device > Display > Screen mode is set to "movie" and that barely affects the vibrancy of the yellows; in fact there is no real difference between all four of the options.
IN SUM: COLOR RENDITION SUCKS.
Take it back to Best Buy?
(I s'pose I just answered my question...)
Thanks in advance.
The subpixel arrangement creates a dot effect more seen in print when looking through a magnifying glass. While not overly distracting, I do notice it at times. My biggest complaint is the blueish hue shift in darker tones when putting the display at an angle. Is this a TN panel ? I've always had OLED and my Oppo Find 5 was the first smartphone I've owned that didn't have a OLED screen. Still, the find 5 screen was MUCH better than the note 10.1 2014. Especially the black levels are kinda disappointing. I think the screen is WAY overrated in reviews. I primarily use the note in darker indoor areas so I have no use for the extra brightness delivered by the white subpixel.
I still think it's a great device tough, and for the price there is nothing like it. I would like to see some CM and Omni builds for it though which retain the wacom S pen "drivers". I don't care for the samsung features, I just want to use Autodesk Sketchbook.
Overall, I'm really happy with my display. My one complaint is that viewing angles seem to be a little off.
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Don't get me wrong, I like the screen a lot. But it is not perfect. I think the pentile design shows when certain colors are next to each other (producing less than perfect transition from one color to another).
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What I know is that this device comes with LCD display. Not amoled. So there.is not pentile design. Because it is not amoled. The color would not look as vivid as amoled, yellow will look like a bit washout because of the backlight compared to amoled
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Check this link: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PenTile_matrix_family
As you can see, Note 10.1 2014 edition is pentile. You can also see this when looking at the screen. Transitions between some colors are a bit blurry.
When talking about display performance there's the objective and subjective. GSMArena, AnandTech, and NoteBookCheck DE all run an extensive battery of standardized tests on all the devices they review. All praise the N10.1-14's display; especially compared to previous Samsung LCD displays.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_101_2014-review-1003p2.php
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7378/samsung-galaxy-note-101-2014-edition-review/3
http://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-10-1-2014-Edition-Tablet.105624.0.html
Sorry folks, you can't argue with the objective.
As for the subjective, assuming those not digging the display don't have a h/w issue, to each their own. The N5's display objectively produces very accurate colors. Those I've seen look washed out and dull. OP's not happy with the coolness of his display. I personally detest warm displays. You can't argue the subjective because it's both personal and opinion.
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When talking about display performance there's the objective and subjective. GSMArena, AnandTech, and NoteBookCheck DE all run an extensive battery of standardized tests on all the devices they review. All praise the N10.1-14's display; especially compared to previous Samsung LCD displays.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_101_2014-review-1003p2.php
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7378/samsung-galaxy-note-101-2014-edition-review/3
http://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-10-1-2014-Edition-Tablet.105624.0.html
Sorry folks, you can't argue with the objective.
As for the subjective, assuming those not digging the display don't have a h/w issue, to each their own. The N5's display objectively produces very accurate colors. Those I've seen look washed out and dull. OP's not happy with the coolness of his display. I personally detest warm displays. You can't argue the subjective because it's both personal and opinion.
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Thanks for that useful post -- the gsmarena and anandtech links are especially informative.
And my fears were confirmed: the display is just kind of average...objectively excellent, but comparatively average.
whatllitbenext said:
Thanks for that useful post -- the gsmarena and anandtech links are especially informative.
And my fears were confirmed: the display is just kind of average...objectively excellent, but comparatively average.
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Think average is a silly comment. I prefer the display to the ipad air. Sometimes wish the whites were slightly better. But I would like to see anyone who has a better screen on an Android 10 inch tablet
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Google releases November security patch that includes new display color modes (Boosted, Natural, Saturated) for the Pixel 2 XL to help with the screen color saturation issues/problems. Update includes fixes for screen burn-in and the ear piece clicking noises. Love that Google added this options, in that way people that want accurate colors can use the "Natural" mode, those custom to Samsung's "saturated" (candy) colors, can now pick "Saturated" mode. All about having choices.
:good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omu5r2v941A
Update:
In case someone hasn't got the update YET.... I just posted a step by step guide on how to sideload the OTA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTfgOeNfQqE
Just got the update, loving it !
Colors are much much better . To my eyes at least.
Do you guys experiencing any differences regarding the blue shift after the update?
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Do you guys experiencing any differences regarding the blue shift after the update?
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That's caused by the polarized layer afaik, not sure how saturation would change that
I couldn't really notice a difference... Will see when I get the phone and update is applied.
But I was happy with the colours when I looked at it in the shops..
Wasn't so impressed with the blue screen off axis. 1 was spot on, 2 were shockingly bad.
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I don't like the saturated mode, colors are too bright and white is more red now. Sticking with the original boosted mode, I like the more natural colors.
Oh, and no help to the blue shift since that is hardware based.
Man I can't wait for kcal.
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Looks terrible to me. Yellow whites and colors are extremely off to me. Boosted is my go to.
Yup after using the phone in saturated mode for two days I'm back with the boosted mode. Saturated mode is REALLY saturated. I find it even more saturated than the Note 8.
Too hard to tell in a video, but in person saturated makes everything pop like it's a Samsung panel. Pretty nice, I love it when I'm not in the mood for the most accurate colors.
I definitely appreciate the update Google.
I've found that the saturated mode is great when navigating android, but when looking at real life pictures, boosted is best. I think we need a slider to fine tune it to our own likings. I think we need a little more saturation than boosted, but less than saturated.
Has anyone else noticed that when you look at a picture and angle it for the blue tint it actually looks better? I took a picture of my daughter and the saturation makes her face look red, but when i tilt it, the extra blue overlayed on top of it looks almost perfect!
PMad said:
I've found that the saturated mode is great when navigating android, but when looking at real life pictures, boosted is best. I think we need a slider to fine tune it to our own likings. I think we need a little more saturation than boosted, but less than saturated.
Has anyone else noticed that when you look at a picture and angle it for the blue tint it actually looks better? I took a picture of my daughter and the saturation makes her face look red, but when i tilt it, the extra blue overlayed on top of it looks almost perfect!
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I think it has helped the blue tint look better on mine too. Mine wasn't terrible to begin with but on boosted mode it looks even better. I would love to see a slider too like on the Note 8 I had. That would please many people.
Misterxtc said:
I think it has helped the blue tint look better on mine too. Mine wasn't terrible to begin with but on boosted mode it looks even better. I would love to see a slider too like on the Note 8 I had. That would please many people.
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I agree! With saturated mode i think they are also changing the color temperature because there's sortof on dark orangish or reddish tint over everything now where before it was more of a bluish tint. We need the slider!
PMad said:
I've found that the saturated mode is great when navigating android, but when looking at real life pictures, boosted is best. I think we need a slider to fine tune it to our own likings. I think we need a little more saturation than boosted, but less than saturated.
Has anyone else noticed that when you look at a picture and angle it for the blue tint it actually looks better? I took a picture of my daughter and the saturation makes her face look red, but when i tilt it, the extra blue overlayed on top of it looks almost perfect!
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I noticed this too, saturated mode is good but it is a bit too red for me and the colors do make pictures look unnatural but I managed to mitigate some of that with KCAL using root and snoke kernel. I turned down the red and green a bit so now it has a blue hue closer to the natural setting. I also turned down the saturation a bit.
Directly from Google; Further enhancements will be included in our planned December software update and on an ongoing basis thereafter. Our goal is for your Pixel phone to get more useful and delightful over time.
So maybe we will get a slider after all? We'll find out soon enough.
I still like boosted the best.
In case someone hasn't got the update YET.... I just posted a step by step guide on how to sideload the OTA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTfgOeNfQqE
I'm loving saturated mode. Besides the whites being more reddish instead of blue it's pretty close to what my OG Pixel XL was.
If you guys want to know what really colors should look like either buy or find a monitor with 100% coverage on sRGB range and which are properly factory calibrated.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/monitor-colour-spaces-adobergb-srgb-2949078
I am 100% the pixel or for that matter any phone out there lacks realistic representation of colors, and therefore images.
Whites should be at 6500k.
Also be wary of your photos you take, what you see could be severely oversaturated but in reality its probably not so good or vivid.
To this date, there is no phone with realistic colors.
Cost and people being addicted to neon colors could be reasons.
So is boosted the exact same as "vivid colors" or is it a little bit better?