i dunno why but i'm thinkn that my apps and downloads are saving to my phone and NOT to my storage card (which is where i want my stuff to be saved) is there anyway i can determine if this is in fact true? if it is going to my phone, how can i switch things to arrange for everything to go to my card???
Pretty sure on a stock phone all apps are downloaded to the phone, and cannot be changed. Froyo (2.2) brings the option to enable Apps to SD card. As far as downloads, there might be a way to download stuff to the SD card, not 100% sure though.
kidstechno said:
Pretty sure on a stock phone all apps are downloaded to the phone, and cannot be changed. Froyo (2.2) brings the option to enable Apps to SD card. As far as downloads, there might be a way to download stuff to the SD card, not 100% sure though.
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sooooo......if this is in fact correct, what purpose does the sd card serve? i mean what can be saved to it? i thought that all the apps and music i got from the market while viewed/listened to on the phone were actually saved to my card????
i think u can use apps2sd if ur phone is rooted. but no one confirmed if they were able to copy apps to sd card once rooted.
Putting apps on the sd card requires much more than root.
With 2.1 youlll need an EXT partition - which will require a recovery image which we don't have ATM. And you'll also need a boot script to symlink the new ext partition to the /data/data partition.
with FroYo the app has to be enabled for apps2sd in the Manifest file - though CM6 I think can override and force it to the SDcard regardless of its manifest.
Downloading stuff from the browser to the SD card should be easy enough by going into browser > Menu > Settings - But I think it defaults to SDCard\Download\ anyways.
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hello every body i am new in the android community.
i've just got a htc hero.
i've rooted it at http://theunlockr.com/ by using the
How To: Root Your HTC Hero in One Click! methode.
now i've put the modaco custom rom in by useing the recovery image.
so i've put it in the sd rename it to update.
applyed it in the recovery image so i've got a new rom.
and what now? to put apps to my sd?
Back up your as card. Go into recovery loader again. Use the format as: fat / ext / swap
I think modaco and fresh both default aps2sd so nothing else is required other than removing and reinstalling your apps so they get put on the sd.
Good luck and make sure you do step 1!
so anytime you install an app from the app market, it will automatically install on your sd card? (i have modacos rom) and how can you check to make sure it does?
all of my apps are on my SD card, maybe with the exception of WiFi teether since it is in the rom and I think needs to be in /system/ to work.
It's nice, my apps are persistent with factory resets and rom flashes.
If I pull my SD card they stop working, if I put it back the spring back to life.
so you dont have to install any apps for this to work, you just have to partition the sd card?
1. Backup your SD card, the Repartition wipes everything out
2. Boot into recovery
3. Run the Partition Fat16/EXT/Swap
4. Reboot
5. Reinstall your apps so they are moved to the SD card.
In really basic terms we trick the phone into thinking nothing happened but we move the App directory to the SD card and point to the card instead of internal memory.
You have to understand how the linux kernel works to really understand the whole "don't have to install software". One of the things Linux beats the crap out of micro$oft about is "things just work".
I'm currently running cyanogenmod 5.0.8, and my 8GB A-Data class 6 SD card should be here soon.
I downloaded a program called swapper 2 and it seems to be working. When I get the new SD card should I stick with this program or do the partition method? Does anyone have experience with this program compaired to the other methods?
I also have Comp cache enabled too. Any thoughts on if I should use both or one?
For App2SD I noticed in the settings you can enable it there but its grayed out. I imagine once I put the new SD card in there it will partition the space for it then?
Thanks for the help. If you have any links to some good info that would be great too.
I think the general consensus is that utilizing a swap partition is much more efficient than creating a swap file on fat32, which figures. Just out of curiosity, does your homescreen reload?
EDIT: Just noticed your A2SD question, it's greyed out because you need to add an ext2/3/4 partition. That's for unofficial Apps2SD which is a hack-job, Google has implimented an official A2SD method in FroYo, however the developer has to specify whether you can Apps2SD-ify their app (I assume because their method moves the apk to the sdcard which can be shared with others, increasing the chance of piracy).
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I think the general consensus is that utilizing a swap partition is much more efficient than creating a swap file on fat32, which figures. Just out of curiosity, does your homescreen reload?
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Not sure what you mean by 'does your homescreen reload'. It usually does reappear when I exit an app, but sometimes all the icons/widgets are gone and I have to restart to get them back. Although this happened before I used swapper 2 aswell. doesnt happen very offten.
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EDIT: Just noticed your A2SD question, it's greyed out because you need to add an ext2/3/4 partition. That's for unofficial Apps2SD which is a hack-job, Google has implimented an official A2SD method in FroYo, however the developer has to specify whether you can Apps2SD-ify their app (I assume because their method moves the apk to the sdcard which can be shared with others, increasing the chance of piracy).
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Good to know that not every app can be put on the sd card. I didn't know that. When I get the new SD card and format a ~512mb ext4 partition; will it automatically move the apps to the sd card, will I have to reinstall the apps to move them, or is that grayed out option (app2sd in settings) allow me to choose (rather attempt, if the program allows for it) which apps to put to the sd card?
Thanks!
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Not sure what you mean by 'does your homescreen reload'. It usually does reappear when I exit an app, but sometimes all the icons/widgets are gone and I have to restart to get them back. Although this happened before I used swapper 2 aswell. doesnt happen very offten.
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Yeah I mean when it has to redraw everything when it gets kicked out of memory. It used to happen every time I excited an app on CM5 and CM6 (nightly build), but now that I've added a 32mb swap file with swapper2 (it doesn't like my partition :'( ) they've all disappeared.
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Good to know that not every app can be put on the sd card. I didn't know that. When I get the new SD card and format a ~512mb ext4 partition; will it automatically move the apps to the sd card, will I have to reinstall the apps to move them, or is that grayed out option (app2sd in settings) allow me to choose (rather attempt, if the program allows for it) which apps to put to the sd card?
Thanks!
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The ext/hackjob method will let you keep any apps on SD
I'm not sure if it will move them for you, but you can physically move the files yourself. It's just a couple of commands in the terminal in a reboot (wont get in to it now, it's 3AM and I'm tired, so I'll probably get it wrong ).
I would like to say that I've always used a partition. In the case that swap kills my SDCard, I would like it to be a certain fraction of the SDCard that dies, not a block here and a block there. I think that's more ocd, though.
I installed all my apps in internal memory ...
but all these apps created ''messy'' folders in my sd card ... making it even more messy.
Is there a way to ''ask'' these apps to install in specific sd card folder??
like \\sd\apps\data\
If you mean Froyo apps2sd they are all stored in a folder called .android_secure
Some apps also create folders on the SDcard for storing data regardless if you installed it on sd or internal.. Thats the developers choice I guess, where to put them.
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I installed all my apps in internal memory ...
but all these apps created ''messy'' folders in my sd card ... making it even more messy.
Is there a way to ''ask'' these apps to install in specific sd card folder??
like \\sd\apps\data\
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there just app data folders, any you delete will either be restored when you next boot up your fone or next run a certain program so your wasting your time deleting any
They haven't installed on the sdcard. Like others have said, these folders are actually what the app creates to store data on. Some are images the app uses, others may be cached items or backups.
i think what the op means, is,if there is any way to tell the app where to put his data on the sd card, like on windows where you can tell a program where to instal.
and as far as i know that is not possible.
Thats why i have My_Music, My_Wallpapers, My_Ringtones etc. folders in my card, so it can be as messy as it wants, but my own stuff is there in one place. Easy to find.
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i think what the op means, is,if there is any way to tell the app where to put his data on the sd card, like on windows where you can tell a program where to instal.
and as far as i know that is not possible.
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Exactly!~
I have formatted my SD card with an app that comes with Evil's ROM. Plus i have apps2sd program installed. When i install apps, some go to SD some to the phone. When i use apps2sd program and move apps to sd program tells me that they were moved. When i open Astro and navigate to SD\system\sd\app nothing is visible there. Also if i navigate there while sd is mounted on my computer, there is also nothing there. Shouldn't they show up there? How do i know for a fact that they got installed to sd and not to phone? Thanks.
You're confused between Apps2SD of Froyo and Apps2SD+ of EXT2/3/4. In both cases, Apps2SD is much more than a "program".
You can't mount EXT partition to your computer, so you don't.
There is no SD\...., there is /system/sd/apps.
To use the full potential of Apps2SD+, you need to avoid using Apps2SD completely - since there's no point in it. Means - ALL your apps should show as "on phone". They won't actually be on the phone, but the phone system doesn't know it.
Read some more on the subject.
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You're confused between Apps2SD of Froyo and Apps2SD+ of EXT2/3/4. In both cases, Apps2SD is much more than a "program".
You can't mount EXT partition to your computer, so you don't.
There is no SD\...., there is /system/sd/apps.
To use the full potential of Apps2SD+, you need to avoid using Apps2SD completely - since there's no point in it. Means - ALL your apps should show as "on phone". They won't actually be on the phone, but the phone system doesn't know it.
Read some more on the subject.
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I am confused all i want is for my apps to go to my sd card so that i can have more free space on my phone
http://www.forceclose.com/questions/718/how-do-i-know-if-apps2sd-is-working
After you do that, if you see what's described - go to Settings / Applications / Manage, go to "SD Card", whatever you see there - press "Move to Phone".
That's it.
I want to know where App2SD moves the files. I have flashed my device with RUU (official) and before I did that I had lots of apps moved to SD and now am not sure if the files from those apps are still on the SD card or not and if they are, where ?
It moves your apps to a magical place where they can roam free and happy
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It moves your apps to a magical place where they can roam free and happy
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I could have guessed that myself (the name gives it away). What I meant is which directory on the filesystem and is it system directory that I can not access from the phone itself (unrooted)
If you are asking about Android's built-in App2SD functionality, check the .android_secure directory of your sdcard.
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If you are asking about Android's built-in App2SD functionality, check the .android_secure directory of your sdcard.
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Talking about this one
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.a0soft.gphone.app2sd&hl=en
As far as I know 2.2 doesn't have this functionality
froyo has it aswell check out .android_secure
nonione said:
froyo has it aswell check out .android_secure
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I am using the app that I mentioned so even if Froyo has it, it wont matter
The directory is empty
telerian said:
I am using the app that I mentioned so even if Froyo has it, it wont matter
The directory is empty
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Here's the thing - Froyo DOES have that functionality. If you're rooting you should try to know a bit more about your device before attempting something so drastic.
Now, that app does NOTHING that stock app2sd doesn't already do. Only if the dev allows the app to be moved can it be moved. If nothing is in the .android_secure folder then no apps are on your sdcard - plain and simple.
a2sd (a2EXT) is much different. It moves every bit of every app to an ext partition. You need Linux or a program capable of reading ext partitions if you're on Windows to see the apps and copy them over.
You could just get Titanium Backup and save the apps so you won't have to worry about any of this while switching between ROM's or whatever else you decide to attempt.
EDIT: Just to make it clear - the RUU doesn't touch your sdcard so whatever was on there before is still there, or should be unless you updated while on LSD and hitting yourself in the head with a hammer.
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Here's the thing - Froyo DOES have that functionality. If you're rooting you should try to know a bit more about your device before attempting something so drastic.
Now, that app does NOTHING that stock app2sd doesn't already do. Only if the dev allows the app to be moved can it be moved. If nothing is in the .android_secure folder then no apps are on your sdcard - plain and simple.
a2sd (a2EXT) is much different. It moves every bit of every app to an ext partition. You need Linux or a program capable of reading ext partitions if you're on Windows to see the apps and copy them over.
You could just get Titanium Backup and save the apps so you won't have to worry about any of this while switching between ROM's or whatever else you decide to attempt.
EDIT: Just to make it clear - the RUU doesn't touch your sdcard so whatever was on there before is still there, or should be unless you updated while on LSD and hitting yourself in the head with a hammer.
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Here is the deal, I rooted my phone and found out that I have no Arabic after downgrading my firmware to 1.34 so I got the RUU with Arabic (1.85) and updated the phone. before all that I used App2SD to move some apps to the SD card to save phone storage and after going toe Arabic RUU, the apps are not in that directory but everything else (photos, documents, maps, etc ..) is still there which means the SD was not wiped. I also used astro to backup my apps before doing the downgrade but it only backed up the ones on the phone storage and not everything.
I am a bit of Android newbie but am an expert in Linux (which is what Android is). I would love to root the phone but it is not possible to downgrade to 1.34 without losing Arabic .
Maybe I should mount the SD card on my laptop and do a find