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Video of EVO with the v2 Kernel and Decent Benchmark Scores

Fresh 0.3
T2v2
SetCPU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAjTo602sQM

Don't mean to go off topic, but what case are you using? And how do you like it?
Thanks.

Status Flow said:
DOn't mean to go off topic, but what case are you using? And how do you like it?
Thanks.
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I was thinking the same thing

Status Flow said:
DOn't mean to go off topic, but what case are you using? And how do you like it?
Thanks.
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doesn't look like it provides much protection at all, and no lay on the table protection is a deal breaker for me. still, i'd like to know what case it is too as i don't believe i've seen it anywhere.

Haha, I just posted the exact same thing on his YouTube comments. Great minds think alike!

Same one I have and is discussed here:
http://androidforums.com/accessories-evo-4g/98673-quest-tightest-thinnest-evo-case.html
Best case for the money bar none. And yes, it does protect lens on bottom and screen up top depending on how you lay it.

Status Flow said:
Don't mean to go off topic, but what case are you using? And how do you like it?
Thanks.
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It's just a cheap red rubberized case I bought on eBay for $6. I use it around the house. Don't really trust it if there's any chance I'll be out and about. I use an Innocase II when I'm carrying it around out of the house.
OneStepAhead said:
doesn't look like it provides much protection at all, and no lay on the table protection is a deal breaker for me. still, i'd like to know what case it is too as i don't believe i've seen it anywhere.
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It doesn't provide much protection. Honestly, IMHO, it's more for looks than anything. The top edges of the phone look cool with the red.

does this brain your battery? curious if it makes battery worse than out of the box

Jury's still out on battery. Overnight results were not encouraging. I usually drop < 10% with the radios off, last night I dropped 30%. I'm going to swap setCPU for oc widget and lower the off screen rate to see what happens during the day.
I may turn off overclocking and use stock freq setting because what I'm mostly after is the better fps. I don't really care about the benchmarking in practical use because I don't game on it.
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where might i get that kernel ?

Sporkman said:
where might i get that kernel ?
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It only works on nova panels I believe.
Here it is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711964

what theme are u running too

nice vid.
i have that same case and LOVE it. Best $5 Ive ever spent.

Wow nice!
Loved how much smoother Nenamark and Neocore ran.
27fps is pretty good on Neocore.
Pardon me if I sound stupid... but is there anyway to overclock the GPU.
I think the Palm Pixi has the same Adreno GPU, but clocked higher at around 190mhz? I might be wrong...

Multi-touch comparison video up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nmolaz4tMmo

Sporkman said:
what theme are u running too
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any info on that theme its pretty hot

Sporkman said:
where might i get that kernel ?
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I believe it's Toast's GodMode kernel you'll find it on this very forum. It's pretty sad that the developers on this site have done a better job on this phone than HTC themselves heck they recently released an official patch update that bricked a user's phone. That's worse than Apple's you're holding it wrong campaign. Where the hell is the QC with these new devices quality control has gone down the drain.

It's not really a theme, I just cobbled together a few things I like from various places.
- Wallpaper came from the DroidX chocmatic posted in the Theme Playground thread.
- Lock Bar is BlackBarLockScreen-signed (sorry, I forgot who made it). This also installs transparent Rosie.
- Clock is Godzson's Black Gloss.
I think that covers most of the visual elements. All of this stuff is downloadable from XDA.

Video Demo of Avalanchmods FroyoV8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNDloWLuq-s

So what's the best kernel to breaking FPS limit if having Epson screen? I'm currently using GoDmode

Screensavers for android phones?

There was only one previous question about this issue, but no replies!
I was thinking of something like the HTC deskclock but working as a typical screensaver, i.e. it runs when the screen is off.
Any suggestion?
Astro

I dont think many people would use this.. As it is, most smartphone users are looking to increase their battery life, and the single biggest battery drain is having the screen on. Ontop of that, Live Wallpapers, and in extension screensavers, tend to use battery power like mad since they are constantly re-drawing the graphics. Docks (like cradle and car docks) are only useful cause they are general plugged in when in use.
The only way I could see them being semi-useful, is if you set your backlight brightness to very dim which would save you most of the screen on power loss, but you'd still suffer from the constant redraw and processing power.

A screensaver is (and that is not my opinion but a fact) probably the most useless peace of software that can be running on a smartphone (for arguments see the previous post )

Thanks for the replies.
However, a low consumption dim clock would make a great addition to android phones and would be a useful tool for the ones using their phones as watches as I do. I never meant to ask for a flashy screensaver such as the ones you find on computers.
Astro

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Thanks for the replies.
However, a low consumption dim clock would make a great addition to android phones and would be a useful tool for the ones using their phones as watches as I do. I never meant to ask for a flashy screensaver such as the ones you find on computers.
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That's still going to use up your screen and CPU. As previous posters suggested, it is not recommended, unless you want your juice to run out before you even manage to come from work. However maybe 'Digital Clock' does something similar that you need?

I believe it IS possible! All you need is to set the screen refresh rate to 1/60 a second, make it go to minimal brightness, make the text cover as small area as possible, make it grey, dark grey, and add the refresh cycle to the cycle where it checks for some regularities, like cell signal.

Dany0 said:
I believe it IS possible! All you need is to set the screen refresh rate to 1/60 a second...
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You can't do that. At least not without modifying the kernel...

And what is blocking you from doing that?

astrovale said:
Thanks for the replies.
However, a low consumption dim clock would make a great addition to android phones and would be a useful tool for the ones using their phones as watches as I do. I never meant to ask for a flashy screensaver such as the ones you find on computers.
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afaik that is included in the default ROM?

waebi said:
afaik that is included in the default ROM?
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Desk clock innit?
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DeFroST FAQ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6622965&postcount=2

Dany0 said:
And what is blocking you from doing that?
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Google's API. If you mean kernel, then nothing, apart from the warranty grey area.

martino2k6 said:
Google's API. If you mean kernel, then nothing, apart from the warranty grey area.
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Don't forget the fact that you need some knowledge on the subject in order to actually do anything about it.

zHk3R said:
Don't forget the fact that you need some knowledge on the subject in order to actually do anything about it.
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Very true indeed...

Screen is damn bright!

Screen is a bit too bright for me even on the lowest settting. I remember reading about an app that let's us knock the brightness below the minimum level, ideal for night reading by all accounts.
Can anyone tell me what this app is called? Does it need root?
Thanks.

No root necessary.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/screen-filter/com.haxor

Thanks I will give that a go ... not to keen on this bit though :
"Known issues: - Gingerbread: Filter prevents interaction with Gmail. "
Is this the only one available so far?

It's just buggy. It will "turn off" by itself, and yes mostly when you switch to Gmail. Gets the job done though.
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Thanks i'll try it I'd that's the extent of the issue.
Edit: works brilliantly for occasional use bit I'd like something that can be applied permanently and system wide if possible. Don't know if anything exists though... yet?

Nothing else exists, sorry.

ryude said:
Nothing else exists, sorry.
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OK thanks. Out of interest, am I the only one that finds the nexus s screen just too bright?
I'm sure an app will come along that caters for this if it's seen to be a common observation (though I'm not sure it is).

Na, quite a few people find the screen very bright.. right now Screen Filter is your only option.

Superfrag said:
Na, quite a few people find the screen very bright.. right now Screen Filter is your only option.
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Hmmm, let's hope that changes soon! Thanks.

xspyda said:
OK thanks. Out of interest, am I the only one that finds the nexus s screen just too bright?
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i don't have this issue. i keep mine on about 40%

Once the devs start doing custom kernels, we'll get one that can go dimmer. Supercurio, the VooDoo lag-fix guy for the i9000 and other Galaxy S versions is big on color correction and gamma and all of that. One of his early fixes including making it less bright on minimum. He's looking to get a Nexus S, once he does we'll see lots of good stuff.
Meanwhile, even without one, he's chugging out lots of stuff for the NS community. Big fan of his work.

this is why the colours were changed

i'm looking through the samsung.git (the kernel source) in the android source, and came across some very interesting commits from Arve Hjønnevåg on this page
http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/samsung.git;a=shortlog;pg=1
click on the commit link for the details
they point out that the colours were actually wrong, and have now been reset. so, actually, all's good - so stop whining!
personally, i prefer the new colours!
looking through the commit logs is actually really interesting. a really annoying bug in googles where, if you pressed flash, it would turn itself off was fixed here: http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=ke...it;h=65799b8cfd15cb61201a0492d8d7799136c4d440
and the explanation is informative too!

What was the point of "fixing" the colors? It's not a bug.
The colors may have been "wrong" before 2.3.3 but that's how I saw it in the store and that's what it looked like when I bought it. If I saw it at the store with the 2.3.3 colors there's a good chance I would have purchased a different phone.

I prefer the "fixed" colors as well. I mean, would you buy a TV or monitor with inaccurate color representation?

zero383 said:
I prefer the "fixed" colors as well. I mean, would you buy a TV or monitor with inaccurate color representation?
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Maybe, if I liked the way it looked. That's my whole point, I liked the way it looked when I bought it, and that's what I paid for. Bait and switch.

Colors were **** since 2.3.3 dont care what they say I have my own 2 eyes and lol that this "problem" was noticed so late into android
They should at least give the option to change them back threw the settings
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I prefer the "fixed" colors as well. I mean, would you buy a TV or monitor with inaccurate color representation?
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I sure as hell wouldn't want to buy a TV with fixed colors and settings
If you want to get technical most mainstream LCD TV and PC monitors are TN panel and they produce inaccurate colors anyways no matter what settings oyu put them on compared to lets say an IPS which have much more accurate natural colors

demo23019 said:
Lol colors are **** since 2.3.3 and OP its colors not colours
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Colours = Canadian / British
Colors = American

thanks learn something new everyday
SORRY MarkusPO
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zero383 said:
Colours = Canadian / British
Colors = American
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Countries separated by a common language ;D
Gotta love it.

svanheulen said:
What was the point of "fixing" the colors? It's not a bug...The colors may have been "wrong" before 2.3.3.
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things that are generally 'wrong' in software are bugs. your logic is wrong. let's face it, we didn't buy the phone for pretty colours.
and it's not a bug in android, it was a bug in the samsung crespo (nexus s) firmware that's been fixed. only users of the nexus s will see the colour changes. the samsung.git is the boot kernel code.

netarchy said:
Countries separated by a common language ;D
Gotta love it.
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well...calling english a language with its lack of grammar is stretching it a bit too far! most of europe throughout time has looked upon english as being a language for idiots! and besides, american is a subset of english

So are the colors now similar to the Epic or "washed out" as a couple of people have noticed.
I am going to store today to consider change from Epic. I love my phone, dont care as much about GB since it is rooted and rommed to 1.3, however
what I want is the size.
Just not sure about using my upgrade just for size since I know there will be newer, flashier things out, which I also don't know that I really need . .
Such a nice choice to have . .
Any other pros/cons

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If I saw it at the store with the 2.3.3 colors there's a good chance I would have purchased a different phone.
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Really? You base your phone purchasing decision on what the colours look like? No regard for hardware, software, capabilities? Wow. Just wow.

nmoreman said:
So are the colors now similar to the Epic or "washed out" as a couple of people have noticed.
I am going to store today to consider change from Epic. I love my phone, dont care as much about GB since it is rooted and rommed to 1.3, however
what I want is the size.
Just not sure about using my upgrade just for size since I know there will be newer, flashier things out, which I also don't know that I really need . .
Such a nice choice to have . .
Any other pros/cons
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The argument just stems from the fact that the original colours on the Nexus S were over-saturated and were not 'correct' by any definition of valid colour space. Those that accept that there is a 'correct' colour space are generally happy with the change, and so don't consider the colours washed out.
Those that prefer the incorrect colours and over-saturation consider the colours to now be washed out.
As for pros and cons of the Nexus S, check out the many other threads giving detailed reviews or 'compare and contrast' opinion pieces.
For me the biggest seller to getting a Nexus S was the fact that updates come straight from Google (previously was on Milestone and Motorola are crap at providing timely updates), closely followed by the speed and responsiveness of the phone in general.

shamarama said:
Really? You base your phone purchasing decision on what the colours look like? No regard for hardware, software, capabilities? Wow. Just wow.
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lol what do you think most people do before they buy a TV
you look the your screen 99% of the time you use the phone it plays a huge part in hardware decision for allot even its its colors
like someone said earlier its called bait and switch
and whats worst with this is that they are fixed with the exception of kernel with voodoo
Also i never seen once person complain before about the colors Google used prior to the update
BUT now that this "problem" was fixed i see tons of people complaining including me and then other just lay back and except it becasue Google said it was a good choice
also try owning a phone prior to this with OLED like i did with my nexus one and vibrant...even WP7 has accurate colors for and OLED panel.
Google is just made a stupid decision.
FYI im huge into hardware ill bet im one of the top enthusiast when it comes to this stuff ...mainly PC hardware

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lol what do you think most people do before they buy a TV
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apples and oranges.
still, google and samsung even give you the complete source code for your phone, so, you can:
a) continue to whine and have it fall on deaf ears.
b) buckle up and modify the source code to your heart's content and hell, maybe even fix other problems.
c) use an existing solution.
whatever you choose, no one really cares, you're either happy, or if not, make the change.
so, start today.
make the change
'cause i'm standing with the... uh... oh.

not apples and oranges since they are FIXED on the nexus S
MarkusPO what model phone are you using?
If you're using SLCD you have no say in this..well at least my rant im talking about OLED like i said numerous times
color change impacts both screen types differently

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thanks learn something new everyday
SORRY MarkusPO
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lmfao...
10 char
I know on Cyanogenmod for the Evo it had an option to change the colors on the screen... does the Nexus S version have that as well?

shamarama said:
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I didn't say that at all. There are plenty of other Android phones with similar capabilities and the screen was one of the factors.

They can say whatever they want my screen is now yellow ,I've even asked ppl at work who's never even looked at my phone before, what color is the white,and everyone says a tanish yellow color....smh
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Raver27 said:
what color is the white,and everyone says a tanish yellow color....smh
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exactly white is not white and this also impacts the contrast and that ultimately impacts the colors...they did this to conserve battery not that it look better
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lmfao...
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im sure you're far from perfect ...
im sure i can go threw your post history i can dig something up

Screen unable to show accurate yellows.

Has this been fixed with firmware updates or now that custom roms are able to be loaded?
Or is the screen just that terrible?
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I've heard this complain before but I don't seem to have this issue.. or perhaps I'm color blind or something lol.
I do intend to not have much yellow more so red and black on my screen than anything..
Is it really THAT MUCH of a nuisance?

it is really annoying, and unfortunately i'm pretty sure it's hardware-based due to the PenTile display. there are plenty of previous discussions on this so please search back and read up on it there.

seh6183 said:
Has this been fixed with firmware updates or now that custom roms are able to be loaded?
Or is the screen just that terrible?
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It's not terrible for me. It's just the way our screen is.
Our screen was built for -> battery saving, that's why color reproduction has problems.
And for me the choice paid off, I am getting the best battery life than with any android smartphone.
If color reproduction was more important to you, you shouldn't have bought an Atrix.

Supposedly pentile screens also have advantages with sunlight visibility.My wife has an HTC Desire S, and it is literally unviewable in the Sun and yet mine remained completely usable and clear. She was not impressed and I was left gloating

dLo GSR said:
it is really annoying, and unfortunately i'm pretty sure it's hardware-based due to the PenTile display. there are plenty of previous discussions on this so please search back and read up on it there.
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Im well aware of the problem and there is no need for me to do a search. This is why I'm asking if the problem has been addressed. Doing a search will only net me what I already know as no one talks about this issue anymore.
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xploited said:
It's not terrible for me. It's just the way our screen is.
Our screen was built for -> battery saving, that's why color reproduction has problems.
And for me the choice paid off, I am getting the best battery life than with any android smartphone.
If color reproduction was more important to you, you shouldn't have bought an Atrix.
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You're getting the best battery life of any android phone because you have the biggest battery of any android phone LOL
And there is no reason in the world why inaccurate color reproduction would EVER result in better battery life. Unless of course you're talking about switching a screen to black and white.
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seh6183 said:
You're getting the best battery life of any android phone because you have the biggest battery of any android phone LOL
And there is no reason in the world why inaccurate color reproduction would EVER result in better battery life. Unless of course you're talking about switching a screen to black and white.
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He was saying that the screen technology on the ATRIX gave it better battery life. Not the color errors. Clearly.
I haven't noticed any colour reproduction errors.
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Magnetox said:
He was saying that the screen technology on the ATRIX gave it better battery life. Not the color errors. Clearly.
I haven't noticed any colour reproduction errors.
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Its too bad some color panel hidden behind the scenes couldn't be accessed to correct the color. It would have been a top contender for some time to come. Love how big the battery is.
Have they ported cm7 to it yet? Are they still doing the 2nd init hack or has the bootloader been unlocked?
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seh6183 said:
Im well aware of the problem and there is no need for me to do a search. This is why I'm asking if the problem has been addressed. Doing a search will only net me what I already know as no one talks about this issue anymore.
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wasn't trying to upset you.
but if we're on that wave, if you're well aware of the problem and searching only netted you no new answers, what did you expect asking would do? net you more non-new answers.

The Atrix screen indeed makes everything a little "bluer" (are your yellows slightly green?).
I read that in CM7 you can alter the color scheme a little bit, or there's an app that can also do this...I'd have to search a little bit to find what I'm talking about, but I'll post a link in just a sec.
Edit: this is what I was thinking of...Might not be exactly what you're looking for, as it requires you to have CM7 it looks like (not that that's a bad thing, but of course it's still in pre-beta and you might not want to use it). It's a start though, and gives you a little more info.

It's an unfixable hardware "problem".
It not a huge deal (can't really tell a huge difference)
Who cares.

seh6183 said:
Its too bad some color panel hidden behind the scenes couldn't be accessed to correct the color. It would have been a top contender for some time to come. Love how big the battery is.
Have they ported cm7 to it yet? Are they still doing the 2nd init hack or has the bootloader been unlocked?
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No need for 2nd init...
Bootloader has been unlocked for a couple of months now.
CM7 is in early beta stages right now.
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dLo GSR said:
wasn't trying to upset you.
but if we're on that wave, if you're well aware of the problem and searching only netted you no new answers, what did you expect asking would do? net you more non-new answers.
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You're wasting mine and everyone else's time.
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Monochrome ftw.
I voided my warranty and your mum.

thebeardedchild said:
The Atrix screen indeed makes everything a little "bluer" (are your yellows slightly green?).
I read that in CM7 you can alter the color scheme a little bit, or there's an app that can also do this...I'd have to search a little bit to find what I'm talking about, but I'll post a link in just a sec.
Edit: this is what I was thinking of...Might not be exactly what you're looking for, as it requires you to have CM7 it looks like (not that that's a bad thing, but of course it's still in pre-beta and you might not want to use it). It's a start though, and gives you a little more info.
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This is excellent information and essentially a fix to the problem. I may pick up an Atrix for this very post right here!!! Thank you for the info!!!!
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BravoMotorola said:
It's an unfixable hardware "problem".
It not a huge deal (can't really tell a huge difference)
Who cares.
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Read the post above yours lol
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seh6183 said:
This is excellent information and essentially a fix to the problem. I may pick up an Atrix for this very post right here!!! Thank you for the info!!!!
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Lol sure thing. Just remember that, from what I can gather, it requires you to use the CM7 ROM (which in turn requires unlocked bootloader, etc. etc.) so make sure to look into all that first!

thebeardedchild said:
Lol sure thing. Just remember that, from what I can gather, it requires you to use the CM7 ROM (which in turn requires unlocked bootloader, etc. etc.) so make sure to look into all that first!
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The only thing I use is cm7 so not to worry
I just need to ask around about a couple of other things about the Atrix before I decide to buy one again.
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The atrix is the bomb diggity yo.
I voided my warranty and your mum.