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Been on Cyanogen basically the majority of my android life. looking to try something new.. wanted eclair but there's so many no time to flash each individually.. which one is really the "best/stable" ROM out now?
Unfortunately you will get nothing but fanboys and each their own opinion. I personally tried xRom, King, and OpenEclair and must say so far the fastest, more stable, is OpenEclair. I've even gotten faster times than on Cyanogen.
Open Eclair eh? hmm thanks i'll keep that in mind.
On it now seems nice, only reason I kept cyanogen though is because of the bluetooth..
edit; open eclair isnt meant for mytouch is it.. stuff doesnt display centered?
it is meant for both i believe, check issue tracker via thread to see if maybe its an issue with the mt3g or maybe you just need to reflash.
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Unfortunately you will get nothing but fanboys and each their own opinion. I personally tried xRom, King, and OpenEclair and must say so far the fastest, more stable, is OpenEclair. I've even gotten faster times than on Cyanogen.
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I've tried a few Eclair builds, and none were anywhere near smooth. Even had one on day before yesterday. Also video recorder was borked and youtube was broken.
Super-D is stable. Completely to the best of my knowledge, on my phone anyway. For the last few weeks it has performed flawlessly.
Before that I was using a non-Super-D and experienced FC's and freezes.
Is OpenEclair as smooth and fast as super-D 1.8? I'm not a Fanboi and will gladly try a better ROM. But I do need everything to work. At least basic features.
Does the video camera work on OpenEclair? Is YouTube broken on OpenEclair?
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I've tried a few Eclair builds, and none were anywhere near smooth. Even had one on day before yesterday. Also video recorder was borked and youtube was broken.
Super-D is stable. Completely to the best of my knowledge, on my phone anyway. For the last few weeks it has performed flawlessly.
Before that I was using a non-Super-D and experienced FC's and freezes.
Is OpenEclair as smooth and fast as super-D 1.8? I'm not a Fanboi and will gladly try a better ROM. But I do need everything to work. At least basic features.
Does the video camera work on OpenEclair? Is YouTube broken on OpenEclair?
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So far on any 2.0+ rom is going to have a broken YouTube and Video Camera due to no drivers available yet in the AOSP. So unfortunately you do lose on that aspect. However yes to the speed of SuperD, they both clocked identical speed. Check the thread and read the latest posts, they are discussing this now.
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So far on any 2.0+ rom is going to have a broken YouTube and Video Camera due to no drivers available yet in the AOSP. So unfortunately you do lose on that aspect. However yes to the speed of SuperD, they both clocked identical speed. Check the thread and read the latest posts, they are discussing this now.
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I'm reading it now. It looks like they're doing some MB/sec type of benchmarks, and FLOPS and stuff.
I may have to flash it myself to check responsiveness, but I don't want to be disappointed.
Have you ever used Super-D 1.8?
There is a difference between MFLOPS and the smoothness of the GUI and managing multitasking and opening and closing apps.
Can you honestly tell me that OpenEclair is as smooth as Super-D?
Also I saw one guy a few pages back who had his screen black out and freeze when he unmounted his SD card, and someone else had a problem with MT3G rebooting when he plugged in the USB cable. And it's reported that aGPS doesn't work.
Here's an ugly one: "Anyone else having issues where the home icons, folders, and widgets disappear when the screen rotates? I have to restart the phone to get the icon/folders/widgets back.
I have seen this at random with the WG and CM builds...but happens consistently with the OE 1.1.1."
Most posts I've read there so far say it's showing potential but not yet a daily driver.
Well i havent had any those issues but then again i could just be lucky, the only thing is i use OE 1.1 not 1.1.1 because 1.1 uses JIT which makes it a very smooth and faster for me, transitions and apps. But JIT is considered unstable for some so 1.1.1 pulled it out.
My only suggestion is just to flash it like you said and try it out, if you dont like nandroid back.
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So far on any 2.0+ rom is going to have a broken YouTube and Video Camera due to no drivers available yet in the AOSP. So unfortunately you do lose on that aspect. However yes to the speed of SuperD, they both clocked identical speed. Check the thread and read the latest posts, they are discussing this now.
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The rom I am using does video playback fine. Youtube and also videos that I already had on my sd card work great. Video capture does, however, result in a FC.
Hey all!
Brief introduction, just got myself a galaxy s a month ago....and shifted out from being a diehard hardcore winmo fan for the last 8 years! Android seems to be just brilliant and am totally loving it! Its a whole new OS compared to what ive been used to (winmo) for all these years - so yep, still exploring and figuring how things work on the internals
I've been trying froyo for the last month and it seemed nice in terms of the subtle refinements all across the os. However it still seems very unstable....overloading the ram causes the device to freeze, and then later it failed to boot...forcing me to restore factory settings. Finally, decided to roll back and give 2.1 a shot....and holy hell!!! its fasttttttt! Compared to our beta 2.2 build 2.1 is a world of difference! a lot more free ram available on the 2.1 build compared to 2.2 (almost a 100 megs more on 2.1!).
Anyway, I guess we'll have to just wait for samsung to clean it up and give us a stock 2.2 rom
same here... currently switching back to 2.1 ... 2.2 is nice, had JPC installed... has some cool new features and possibilities... but its still too buggy for me... today phone won't boot and i had to do a hard reset... this is annoying ... so waiting for the official realease of 2.2 and still looking forward to it
greetings from austria
aigolf
same here, switch back to eclair.
Although the 2.2 is a such pleasing experience over 2.1, it certainly is falling short on a lot of things for a daily phone. It also is being quite a pain in the rear while developing apps and trying them on the phone.
I quite agree with the fact that it would be much better to wait it out for Samsung to provide a proper 2.2 version.
Cheers....
Been using 2.2, now back using XWJM7. I have a good feeling about final version of 2.2 for SGS. I saw demos of Galaxy Tab using 2.2 on youtube, runs very smooth (almost same identical hardware with SGS). Expecting the same performance with SGS.
Samfirmware has just published their own package for JPC under the european FWs section. Do you think this could mean that all product code, IMEI, and other related issues with the KIES "leaked" JPC could be avoided and we can safely give it a try this time?
Since i got the phone one month ago i sticked with Eclair, trying several FWs for lag and battery draining aspect. Trying JM7 right now. Still have to find something fully satisfying.
Same here, I had JPC and Doc's modded Rom installed but still had a lot of FC's and it seems to me that the battery life is a tad worse than 2.1. Come on already Samsung! let's have the official Froyo!
Dont you just hate it when that happens
Seriously ?
I have had minimal problems with JPC.
Battery life has been massively improved, lag has been minimal.
The only real niggles i have had is the keyboard locking up a couple of times in the google search box.
Weird Huh ?
Exact same boat. Tried out Froyo and it was far too buggy so went back to Eclair. Waiting on Samsung to push out an official Froyo update.
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Seriously ?
I have had minimal problems with JPC.
Battery life has been massively improved, lag has been minimal.
The only real niggles i have had is the keyboard locking up a couple of times in the google search box.
Weird Huh ?
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Some people seem to be lucky but I've had hard-lockups regularly - my first install failed to boot after a couple days of use, I re-flashed and today had a crash/lockup, pulled battery, another one within 5 minutes of use, pulled battery, another one within 10 minutes of use. Only seems to happen when I'm doing certain things though, mainly web browsing / apps that render HTML, I played music on it for 2 hours straight with no trouble and games were fine.
Flashing back to eclair as soon as I can figure out which rom to use (I was on stock until JPC because I was happy enough with it and sick of buggy alpha ROMs from trying to make my 32B Magic more usable).
i have now jpc on my phone and works smootly
How to downgread back to 2.1, and where to get stock 2.1 firmware ???
wow!! this is by far the most active community ever i guess we have a lot of galaxy s users....and thats just awesome ;o)
im sure stock 2.2 from samsung should be really quick in comparison. 2.1 that im currently running works flawlessly and is also really really quick! I consistently have over 120megs of free ram...and when i clear ram it diligently goes back to 200megs free ram....always!
I think 2.2 has a load of memory leaks or perhaps a mismatched kernel...but seriously guys, its about time samsung gave us the stock rom!
They provide the source code, but they probably don't provide a fully stock rom because they don't want to encourage people to flash their phone unsafely.
JPC was terrible compared to JM7.
There are a few things I liked - the browser was making improvements, and high res cover art on the music player, and one or two other minor things, but otherwise, slow, buggy and annoying.
JM7 is the best I've used yet, WAY better than JPC.
I don't know about anyone else, but mine is staying that way now until a STABLE, FAST 2.2 firmware is out. Given how the 2.1 firmwares have progressed since it came out, I think I wont be flashing again for 2 - 3 months... I simply cannot be bothered with all this any more, all I ever wanted was for it to work properly in the first place. It is only because of this forum I've kept the phone as long as I have. I respect those who like to experiment, but I can't be bothered any more.
i'm staying with a clean install of jpc (SF Vers)
quadrant 1098
linpack 14.1
feels good to me
Tried 2.2 JP3 & JPC but 2.1 DDJG4 is far more better .. just rolled back to 2.1 its nice now..
Major problem with JPC for me was Exchnage mail reply block ... well repplied some official mails but recipients dint recd them ....
2.2 not ready yet for Galaxy .. We'll wait for Final release.
i have problems with zsjp2 and xxjpc, and both times i had used titanium to restore my apps. Even selectively restoring the apps, i do encounter problems of FCs, laggy, etc.
i did not roll back to eclair but did a fresh flash of jpc and discarded all the titanium backups. i did a fresh install of all the apps, and right now it is pretty good and smooth, and minimum lag encountered even without any lagfix.
of course eclair right now is a very much more stable rom, especially right now with the voodoo fix, it is indeed very tempting. however, after much deliberation, i decided to stick to jpc, until a new version comes.
p/s: my recovery had been downgraded to 2e and it does not require any signature verification at all, and all this is made possible by Leshak.
G00ndu
Do you sync with exchange?
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Hey,
im currently running Floyo on my HTC Hero. Im wondering what is the currently fastest and best running Rom out there.
Are the other Froyo Roms out there better than Floyo? Why are they better?
Shall i test the Gingerbread Roms? Are they faster than the Froyo Roms? Do they run better on your Devices ? What about the battery life?
fiden
from my experience I think elelinux 6.2 is the fastest, but for me it's also a little unstable unless he's solved that problem since I used it (which was a few weeks ago).
floyo is really good too though so you might want to stay where you are.
make sure to use launcherpro which is by far the fastest launcher on the hero.
gingerbread is fairly fast but not really as instantaneous to respond to your taps as some of the faster older roms out there. I actually find that cronos eclair light is the fastest rom to respond to my commands, but it's a highly modified 2.1 sense rom which means you're limited to 2.1 features (if that bothers you, it annoys me now that I'm used to gingerbread).
It's a trade off really. gingerbread is the best os so far, but it does have a couple of graphical framerate issues in UI screen transitions and some 3d stuff.
It's camera might not be quite as fast or good as with older roms also, however I'm not convinced of that yet.
You can always create a nandroid of your current setup (or a bart which will be a bigger backup but will include your ext partition - sort of a necessary thing imho). then wipe all and try a gb rom. you can restore to your floyo bart backup any time if you decide to.
Froyo at the moment is very rock stable and still faster than Gingerbread (Beta). It's like comparing Windows XP and Windows Vista. GB beta offers something interesting. However, from time to time, you may experience FC, lag, GPS problem, unexplained reboot and some apps not useable (not updated yet for GB). The default camera on GB is still bad, very colourless. If you use alternative like Camera 360, only then it is good. If you use GPS a lot, bear in mind Runkeeper or Buddy Runner will have problem connecting to GPS. My daily working ROM is also Floyo 1.20. Use Nandroid to backup your Froyo first. Wipe all, Flash any GB ROM (I had tried Ele's 0.6 and Cronos' 1.10) to try out yourselves.
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make sure to use launcherpro which is by far the fastest launcher on the hero.
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I haven't tried LP for a few months, but I am quite sure Zeam is faster
Of course Zeam doesn't have as many features.
Ive been running GB for about two weeks and have only had one lock up. (mind you I was reinstalling all my apps while trying to listen to music so probably my fault there..)
Only had 1 FC and that was in Gmail after I changed my signature in the settings but hasnt done it when I edit it since.
Havn't noticed any lag (then again I use Zeam, which flies along anyway),
and I get 3 days battery, half a day more than froyo with the same usage. (then again its using a different Kernel compared to what Froyo was using so that may be why).
As for colourless camera, ive not noticed any difference at all since updating. if it does worry people that much, you guys do know that the stock camera has settings for bumping saturation/contrast/etc up right..? and it remembers the settings so set and forget..?
But yeah. I switched to GB as soon as I was getting reports through it was all stable and nice and I have not been disappointed. In froyo I always used to run into market install problems every so often (items would download but not install, no matter what froyo rom I used this problem used to come and go randomly.) none of that yet!
Have not tried the GPS yet on a proper drive, but on preliminary tests (local runs around the block on foot and in car) I get a fix within 6seconds inside the house by a window and 4seconds out side, Google maps, Copilot and runkeeper all working fine.
As others said. Make a nandroid, full wipe, flash and have a try for a few days.
If you say the Ginger-Roms are still not stable, i will not test them and wait a little time until they are stable . Thanks for your help!!
So is there a difference between the Froyo Roms out there? Shall i test the others like Froyd or Elelinux or Cronos? Somebody made experiences with TastyFroyo from RaduG?
fiden
Im running Cronos Ginger (non-Anim)....
Its much faster than the froyo ROMs i had used in the past. Only problem is that some apps refuse to work... like Opera Mini, Angry Birds 1.5.1
But its not a big deal, its my day-2-day ROM and very useable
So far I'm finding the GB roms pretty damn slow (all of them, including fresh Cyanogen). The fastest ROMs are still probably modded 2.1 sense ROMS, but then your trading features for speed. There are a lot of very fast, stable and feature rich 2.2 ROMs out there though, so that is the safe middle-ground right now.
I've tried a bunch of ROMs, but as far as I can say, Elelinux's CM 7.0.0-based ROM (v0.6) is the fastest of all. Gingerbread ROMs for the Hero have gotten pretty fast over the last couple of weeks.
And concerning the launchers, I'd say Zeam's the fastest.
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I've tried a lot of rooms too. When I went from eclair to froyo, I found many useful new functions (tethering the first one), but from froyo to ginger what are the advantages? I tried, but then I went back to floyo, the froyo version which gives me the highest scores on tests...
Tests arnt the be all and end all
For example, Tasty gingerbread rom gave me the best scores. but the UI was laggy as hell. the tests are just how information is moved about as apposed to how fast YOU can interact with the device. I hardly ever run tests any more I just use the best testing equipment for me, my eyes lol
hey thanks to all you answers.
So i put an eye on the new Cronos Froyo 1.8.0, which is out since the 10th. Somebody here who tested Cronos Froyo and somebody who can tell me about his experiences with CF?
Cronos is a very good developer... ive tested his roms in the past and there were many good roms out there a couple of them were the best out there!
What about Cronos Froyo?
fiden said:
hey thanks to all you answers.
So i put an eye on the new Cronos Froyo 1.8.0, which is out since the 10th. Somebody here who tested Cronos Froyo and somebody who can tell me about his experiences with CF?
Cronos is a very good developer... ive tested his roms in the past and there were many good roms out there a couple of them were the best out there!
What about Cronos Froyo?
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CF 1.8 is great. Coming from CG 1.1 but CF is much much much faster! Try it, in my eyes no G rom is faster than Froyo.
Can you contrast and compare?
Too soon?
Midnote seems to have everything working from the getgo...fullroot...all features. Just stuck at 1200 speed.
Don't know about the others.
I'll be flashing the chainfire repack this weekend...
Hahahaha was just about to post the same question. Would love cm9 as I had that on my sgs2
sent from my gnote full of awesomeness
All current stable ics leaks are clocked at 1.2
Swyped from the white galaxy note. You're jealous, it's ok.
LAGGY LAG!
I would be pretty much interested in the following: What is your guys experience with the well known lag of the note? After several weeks using a rom the note gets pretty laggy after standby sessions...evertime I unlock my note I have to wait a few seconds, until an app starts. This happened to me with stock & several RocketRoms & Kernels and I found many people sharing these experiences.
Will this change with ICS?
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I would be pretty much interested in the following: What is your guys experience with the well known lag of the note? After several weeks using a rom the note gets pretty laggy after standby sessions...evertime I unlock my note I have to wait a few seconds, until an app starts. This happened to me with stock & several RocketRoms & Kernels and I found many people sharing these experiences.
Will this change with ICS?
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I've been using Chainfire's repack for a couple days and it's sped everything up immensely. There's still the dead minor stutter with scrolling in some apps, but all in all it's definitely a huge change.
I'll probably flash Rocket's 1.5 now that the SMemo is working and has the stock ICS messaging app, but is devoid of most of the bloat.
Gonna see if HW acceleration still brings everything up to snuff with a deodex'd rom, too.
Thanks DarkShot666! You´ve mentioned the stock messaging app, one more question in this context: I haven´t read anything about the calendar...are we able to use the stock cal as well or am I still bound to the S-Planner (which I kind of dislike in comparison to the beautiful ICS one )? I didn´t give the memo integration in the calendar one single shot, don´t need it (yet)...
I've been using ICS since the chinese leak came out. First I used that and then, when Team Rocket ROM came out, I switched to that and have been using it since.
I also have used ICS CM9 alpha by maui for about a week as a daily driver.
All in all, there is a serious speed boost and everything looks nicer (IMO), yet there are also still bugs. The most notable for me is lack of "use wireless networks" setting for GPS location. At the moment the only GPS app I use is Foursquare (since my car is in service now, so no navigation for a while), and I have troubles locking on to GPS. It takes forever (meaning it takes minutes) and sometimes doesn't lock at all. This is in contrast to CM9 alpha I tried before, which would give me a quite good location in a few seconds.
The calendar is ICS stock, I think.. At least it looks like that.
What I don't really like is that there is no stock "contacts" and "dialer". It's a personal preference, of course, but I really like the ICS original apps, especially contacts and phone, which give you hi-res full-screen pic of the person calling. This one doesn't.
All in all, if I compare GB on Note to ICS on Note, ICS is definitely faster, smoother and generally way better. You have to suffer a few bugs and a few Force Closes here and there, at least for now..
If I compare the new leaked ROM and custom ROMs based on that with the CM9 build by maui, I must say that CM9 definitely would win if it didn't have the current major problems like camera not working and a bit more FCs than on leaked one. CM9 alpha seemed smoother and cleaner, it also had stock AOSP ICS apps and for the GPS issue - CM9 locked on almost instantly (2-10 sec, even indoors), way faster than any ROM on GB I tried, it also seemed to have a bit smoother animations and effects. One notable example would be when pinch-zoom-out is used in browser. If you watch a demo/review of proper ICS (for example, Galaxy Nexus) where you can see pinch-zooming in browser, when you zoom out, the previous full screen stays visible as a block, yet the new zoomed-out portion is not yet visible. When releasing fingers, the non-visible area fades smoothly to readable text. (hard to describe, so just watch a video if you don't understand what I mean). In CM9 Note does this, but in the new leak it doesn't fade - the area just suddenly appears.
To sum it up, I'm not going back to GB anymore, using Team Rocket ROM now but waiting eagerly for a new release of CM9 by maui.
try the leaked rom ,, its fine and working good and smoth
I've tried Chainfire repack and Midnote. I prefer Midnote - it solved a few things like apps update on every reboot, notification bar prompting for updates and the fingerprint changed to N7000 instead of I9220.
Midnote is the choice! Definitely!
Gona start flashing soon! But im gonna wait for a few weeks for a stable ics rom
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midnote 2.0 running for two days. no issue at all.even some games are working that was not working on gb rom.
MidNote definitely. I tried RR 1.4, 1.5 & Midnote and Midnote was smoother by a mile. Stuff just works too. GPS, Bluetooth, Camera, Videorecorder, Market, Dialer, etc. I did make a bunch of mods, removing apps, adding others e.g. video player (instead of second gallery) Titanium backup also works awesomely.
BTW anyone thinking about coming from GB to ICS DO NOT USE CWM TO FLASH AN ICS ROM OR KERNEL. You must use Mobile Odin or PC Odin (careful of PC version it will raise your binary counter & give you triangle) or else you will not obtain complete root, and it will be a headache and a half to reflash backwards then forwards again.
If you haven't tried it yet here's a video I recorded yesterday showing how smooth Midnote is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v-EomtcS8g&context=C39a7de5ADOEgsToPDskIZbCCmZPM8mIA8w0m27pF4
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midnote 2.0 running for two days. no issue at all.even some games are working that was not working on gb rom.
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Can you give an example of this? Do you mean games that previously couldn't be installed can now be installed?
Thought I'd update.
I haven't tried MidNote so I can't compare but I've been running RR 1.5 and it's fantastic.
Buttery smooth and everything works as intended. Using ADW EX has never been more enjoyable. Used Titanium to remove a lot that I didn't need as well as restore everything and it works without a hitch. I've had solid performance on Wifi too. Bluetooth does seem a touch fickle but that too could be attributed to a low battery on my MBW-150.
The only issues I've had thus far would be that you can't set a wallpaper with forced HW acceleration on and the resolution is reduced when setting the lockscreen wallpaper for some odd reason. Nothing overly major though.
I might try MidNote if I'm really in the mood, but for now I'm pleased with how it's all set up.
I have been using the imilka's TOM and so far I haven't had any big problems. Of course there are some major and minor bugs to be fixed but the de is working really fast on this rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1516515
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I have been using the imilka's TOM and so far I haven't had any big problems. Of course there are some major and minor bugs to be fixed but the de is working really fast on this rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1516515
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yup i would have to agree with him. this rom is by far the closest we can get to cm9 or stock ics. it does have minor bugs such as usb file transfer and video player, and few extras, but everything else works flawlessly. camera works, all other apps work, faceunlock, etc, very fast and smooth. he has even made a flashable zip that can transform the note into an actual tablet form. he had some bugs in version 1, but he fixed them in version 2 (and i must say, the developer is really fast). although there are fc bugs in tablet form, but i'm sure he's going to fix them in the next day or two.
i tried cm9 for couple of days, but the lack of camera, usb mount, and some others took me off it.
before imilka's rom, i was on romow v1 ics. it worked pretty well. but as its not really full clean aosp ics, i couldn't deal with it. although it is pretty much ics themed, except the dialer, messaging, and contacts. but it is smooth and stable nonetheless. faceunlock works, which is really cool.
all other roms (midnote, rocket, etc) i can't deal with. the themes are all kinda "in your face" and i hate that. not really sure about the smoothness and stability on those so can't really comment on that as i havent flashing them really. (maybe once or twice to see how it is, but quickly restored to original rom)
by the way, i hope the devs don't take offense. a little criticism never hurts, and opinions matter
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BTW anyone thinking about coming from GB to ICS DO NOT USE CWM TO FLASH AN ICS ROM OR KERNEL. You must use Mobile Odin or PC Odin (careful of PC version it will raise your binary counter & give you triangle) or else you will not obtain complete root, and it will be a headache and a half to reflash backwards then forwards again.
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on a side note, follow this guide if your coming from GB http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1509703
k1ng617 said:
BTW anyone thinking about coming from GB to ICS DO NOT USE CWM TO FLASH AN ICS ROM OR KERNEL. You must use Mobile Odin or PC Odin (careful of PC version it will raise your binary counter & give you triangle) or else you will not obtain complete root, and it will be a headache and a half to reflash backwards then forwards again.
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I used redpill recovery to install midnote - worked great, and I didn't have to mess about with odin.
The step by step instructions in the midnote thread were brilliant.
midnote 2.0 for me is smooth and fast for me, fix some of issue that repack has, weird that they are some minor force close at first few boots after flash, then they are gone later. although fixed at 1.2ghz, it definitely smoother than GB clocked at 1.6ghz... havent tried rocket rom yet, but midnote 2.0 is great for me
Okay, so I was on official ICS, several actually. I kept hoping one would prove not to have the Super Brick bug. It seems nobody knows, still.
After working myself into a panic worried I would do something normal and suddenly have a brick on my hands, I flashed back to Gingerbread 2.3.6, Europe Open version (XXLA4). I decided to stick with Touchwiz launcher
After messing around with ICS and several different launchers I guess I had forgotten how smooth the stock is.
Apps are now opening and closing fast, the scrolling in the launcher is super smooth and overall, the phone is working very well. It's like a new machine!
It could help that now that I'm on a safe kernel, I've wiped data and basically started new, but I'm very impressed.
I still wish ICS would come out from Samsung with an announced fixed version. I miss the resizing of widgets and the ICS Voice to text engine. It really is much better.
I would rather feel safe in operating the phone, however, and give up those small ICS features I'm missing.
Has anybody else done the same? What do you think?
Just use Franco kernel or Speedmod kernel for your stock ICS rom and you'll have a "safe" kernel.
Or flash CM9 rom.
Since you are on GB, you can flash a CM9 rom and be perfectly fine easily.
I have to agree alittle with you , always when i reflash to a stock rooted gb, i always feel WOW its so smooth, but thats until i start installing all my apps i use.
I must say that batterylife is better for me on ICS, dunno why.
BTW, is there any significant speed difference between stock ICS (LPY for instance) and CM9? I'm on LPY and Franco r5 and even when overclocking to 1.6 GHz I haven't noticed any speed change.
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BTW, is there any significant speed difference between stock ICS (LPY for instance) and CM9? I'm on LPY and Franco r5 and even when overclocking to 1.6 GHz I haven't noticed any speed change.
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I've not tried CM9.
Currently its in nightlies but even still from past experiences with stock rom vs cm7 etc i got noticable stability and speed increases. different phones and roms though but generally the idea still applies.
Can't understand all the drama about the ICS update. I just installed mine OTA as instructed, installed Apex Launcher and I couldn't be happier. Everything seems a little smoother too.
Stock email widget works a treat (7x7 grid and above) and with the Smooth Calender widget I am in home screen heaven. Leaves TW on both Gingerbread and ICS.
Just gone from a great phone to a fantastic phone for my needs
I on the other hand still stick with GB right know.
I'm planning to flash CM9 this weekend.
Because I'm getting bored with GB, everyone seems already tried ICS.
I was waiting official save kernel from Samsung, but I just cannot wait anymore to try the ICS.
I will try CM9 mod first I guess, although Franco and CF kernel already release their 'safe' kernel but I still a bit worried since we're not yet sure if there's other reason of the hardbrick
Also back on GB stock with root
I have to agree with this that stock GB is alot more stable than ICS and smoother aswell.
I have tried nearly all the stock ICS releases and all the custom roms based on stock ICS that are in the development forum. Also tried with different kernel combinations and both full wipe / no wipe. Initially most of it seems great then you start using a few apps and it all goes downhill from there.
So GB ftw (well atleast till I get that flashing craving again)
Hi,
Using stock ICS update, had a bricked device after my inability to read, read, read, read & read more, lucky enough to find a solution (not able to disclose, not a technical solution - retail) I use Apex pro launcher & all runs like a dream.
Run chainfires got brickbug? & not happy x19. Rooting may have to wait, confidence bit dented (rooted & flashed my last HTC units & my SG2)
Will read, read & read for a while longer yet.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
I also don't understand the complaints for official ICS, I have updated mine and everything is running smooth...there seems to be a problem for people who did not factory reset before upgrading?
i had a lot of restarts - over and over again
i unplugged my battery and it kept happening
since upgrading to ICS - its quite a lot better but still sometimes i get the restarting issue - battery life on ICS is ok - maybe a bit worse than GB
ilegales said:
i had a lot of restarts - over and over again
i unplugged my battery and it kept happening
since upgrading to ICS - its quite a lot better but still sometimes i get the restarting issue - battery life on ICS is ok - maybe a bit worse than GB
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For the restart thing, there maybe an apk which is incompatible? I had this problem after installing several apks from the market when I was on GB once and did a factory reset to solve it.
Final5k said:
I also don't understand the complaints for official ICS, I have updated mine and everything is running smooth...there seems to be a problem for people who did not factory reset before upgrading?
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I wasn't complaining about ICS. In fact, I really liked it. Especially the additional widgets, and the voice search improvements.
I was just paranoid that something I did in everybody function would cause the super brick bug. While people seem to thinkI they know what triggers it and what doesn't, we just don't know for sure.
So for me, I'm staying on GB until Samsung admits and fixes the emmc bug.
Back to GB for me too.
I agree with the OP, I have gone back to GB.
For me the advantages of ICS do not outweigh the stabilty of GB.
ICS:
I lost 40-50% battery life but I gained Chrome ( a little bit buggy but good nonetheless). I also ran the risk with the EMMC bug.
GB : I get my battery life back again, have to use the standard browser but at least I can't brick my phone.
I use the note quite heavily for the web, notes, email and following tweets. It has become an excellent companion and I really don't want to lose it just for the sake of running the latest OS.
I have enough patience to wait until an "official" patch comes out that can repair the bug. After such times I will go back to trying the various ROMs on the site.
Me too recently on ICS Dxlp9 now back to more safer ROM stock GB 2.3.6 unrooted! loving it! gonna miss the resizble widgets and those new features but its worth to wait LOVE MY NOTE
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I'm back to stock UK XEU LA4 rom and all the better for it. The stability of GB definately outweighs the few advantages (that I've experienced anyway) with ICS.
My main issues with stock UK XEU ICS where
1/ Bluetooth connectivity problems with my car Nissan Connect system
2/ Adobe Flash player was unstable & some websites I frequent didn't work properly at all
3/ Screen responsiveness reduced
4/ Battery life was worse
heading back to gb too. Cant find any reason for using ics. and tw is so ugly. Waiting for the official Miui
I tried LPY and didnt like it - battery life awful and unpredictable then reverted back to GB - I think I will keep it this way until a much better ICS is available maybe CM9?
Likewise I've gone back from XXLQ2 to XXLA6. There wasn't enough good new stuff in the Touchwiz version of ICS to outweigh the battery drain and keyboard problems. And I did do a full wipe before flashing.
mingonn said:
Can't understand all the drama about the ICS update. I just installed mine OTA as instructed, installed Apex Launcher and I couldn't be happier. Everything seems a little smoother too.
Stock email widget works a treat (7x7 grid and above) and with the Smooth Calender widget I am in home screen heaven. Leaves TW on both Gingerbread and ICS.
Just gone from a great phone to a fantastic phone for my needs
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Main issues people have are:
1) TWizzed ICS is a horrible disappointment compared to an actual ICS experience. Samsung basically reverted half of ICS to a legacy Gingerbread UI.
2) Samsung did a ****-poor job of software quality control with their ICS releases. It's utterly stupid that the launcher force closes if you debloat unrelated apps - but that has been the case since the first I9100 ICS release. (There's a reason most custom firmwares use Apex instead of TWLauncher.)
3) Last but not least - Samsung has had a latent defect in the eMMC chips shipped in nearly all of their Exynos-based handsets up till now, and the kernel developers for the SPH-D710, SGH-I777, SHW-M250S/K/L, and GT-N7000 were stupid enough to enable the trigger condition for a known and documented MMC chip bug. The I9100 kernel development team was smart enough to remove MMC_CAP_ERASE from the MSHCI driver or not enable it in the first place.
Final5k said:
I also don't understand the complaints for official ICS, I have updated mine and everything is running smooth...there seems to be a problem for people who did not factory reset before upgrading?
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In general - if you perform a wipe data/factory reset on any stock ICS kernel, you run a significant chance of permanently trashing your phone's internal storage.
It's a MAJOR bug that Samsung should NEVER have allowed to go out the door.