Not sure if this is a bug or not, but i wanted to get input from other 4G users who have the EVO.
I just can't seem to keep the 4G network connection to actually stay connected to the network.
I live in the San Jose Area, in my house i get full bar of 4G coverage.
It connects just fine, stays connected for 30sec and then disconnects and entering an endless reconnect loop.
It will only stay connected if i actually open up an application that constantly consumes data (like watching a video or listening to internet radio). As soon as i close this application the reconnect loop returns. needless to say it kills the battery.
Initially i thought it was the tower that i am connecting to, so i drove Palo Alto which also have 4G and the same thing happens there.
Either there is a serious bug in with EVO or the network is kicking my device off.
How is your experience with 4G? will it stay connected with good signal even if you are not going anything on the device?
I hope that doesn't become a common problem like a lot of people's problems with the Nexus One being unable to maintain a 3G signal.
Wish I had 4g in my area to test. Loving the sprint 3g vs t-mobile 3g.
To the OP - the network you are on is labeled as Sprint, but it is in fact Clear's "developer Innovation test network". Read more about it on Clear's site. This is basically a TEST network, with not full deployment - so building penetration will not be as good as it could be. Keep in mind also that 4G has a high spectrum and high spectrums have never been good at building penetration.
So, basically - this is not the full network we'll see at 4G launch in the Bay Area. This is just a test network. Don't think too highly of it. Hope this helps.
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To the OP - the network you are on is labeled as Sprint, but it is in fact Clear's "developer Innovation test network". Read more about it on Clear's site. This is basically a TEST network, with not full deployment - so building penetration will not be as good as it could be. Keep in mind also that 4G has a high spectrum and high spectrums have never been good at building penetration.
So, basically - this is not the full network we'll see at 4G launch in the Bay Area. This is just a test network. Don't think too highly of it. Hope this helps.
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This indeed crossed my mind. Even though i do get full bar of 4G at my house.
This is why i wanted to know if EVO owners in other locations (outside the Bay Area) are having the same issue.
This is a two part problem I believe. A) WiMax is a very young technology. As it gets older it will get better. Bank on that. B) I read somewhere that this Google I/O software has a bug in the 4g software that will keep disconnecting when not on a constant downstream of data. It will keep disconnecting and reconnecting. Basically, once this bug is fixed and WiMax gets older we should be fine.
Ghetto idea, turn on the wifi hotspot and see if that hold the connection open.
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Ghetto idea, turn on the wifi hotspot and see if that hold the connection open.
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Tried that. it wil stay connected if the laptop connected to the hotspot is pulling data. otherwise - reconnect loop.
I did the fix and i am on stock updated all the way from one of the threads in the dev section and before 4G worked with the old radio but cut out all the time So i decided to do this fix and now the 4G connects for about a minute and it disconnects and i am in an area with excellent 4G coverage. So if anyone knows of a 4G connection problem in the Kansas City area please tell me or if it is just my phone tell me how i can fix this problem.
Edit: It appears that 3G cuts in to do data instead of 4G because as soon as it cuts out 3G uses data.
Edit 2: Now if I go in to Setting>Wireless & Networks>4G Settings It says fair - Poor connection, Assuming because i am inside, but i am not connected.
Edit 3: After disabling mobile data in the network settings it now holds the 4G connection well but now i have to wonder why 3G would over take 4G while it is on.
I been having 4g problems since the recent ota update. I hardly get 4g and it's considerably slower.. I'm running full stock with no root. What fix is available?
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I been having 4g problems since the recent ota update. I hardly get 4g and it's considerably slower.. I'm running full stock with no root. What fix is available?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715915
I've had my evo for a little over three weeks now... I've traveled to alot of different areas and I've never seemed to drop below 3G even when I have zero bars....Is anyone else experiencing this???
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I live in iowa, sprint roams a fair amount of the time. I don't think the evo will display anything other than 3g when internet is available even though it is roaming on like a 1x network. I think sprint roams 1x on UScell, but I've gotten good 3g speeds roaming as well, which I assume is Verizon. Running a speedtest has confirmed max rates of ~200kbs even though I had full bars. I've never gotten less than 800 when not roaming. Is there a program out there that will specifically tell who's tower you are roaming on? Thanks!
I have never seen anything other than 3G, 4G, or nothing for the data connection. It's the way the phone was designed. If I have a data connection, it always says 3G (I rarely connect to 4G).
I've seen a screenshot with EvDo listed in the status bar, but I've never seen anything but 3G on my phone.
The screenshot with EvDo was a custom ROM, so it may have been something they changed. I'll see if I can find the screenshot again. (It was here on xda.)
yes, i've seen a triangle, 1x or evdo symbol and sometimes and x for no service at all lol. i tend to miss the coverage i had under at&t...
EVDO = 3G
1x = Not 3G
Triangle = Roaming
3G is almost always displayed on the stock rom even when its not in 3G
On custom roms you will see different combinations
I get the triangle when riding underground in Chicago's subway.
The Evo is screwed up in signal display. It always shows 3G even if you're on 1xRTT.
I'm working on a widget that'll show it.
In a spot where I get very strong signal, today it will connect but won't actually work. Toggling 4G mode and rebooting have no effect. 3G works normally. Anyone else having this issue? Wish I could test it in another 4G area to narrow it down to the local tower.
Happens to me intermittently. I wondered if it was maybe just maintenance on a tower but that would not account for it showing that 4g was connected, plus my buddy was connected on his Evo at the same time, getting pretty good speeds. Its very curious.
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Well, at least I know now it wasn't my phone. 4G is back, although weaker than before. 100% uptime doesn't exist in this world, yet.
I bought a business class Verizon extender for $400 because the Turbo has less reception than my LG G2 did, but there seems to be a serious flaw in the Turbos programming (or maybe it's the antenna). I can be right next to the extender with only a couple bars, if I go to make a phone call it suddenly jumps to full bars. The issue could be battery saving? Because if I walk 30 feet from the extender I will lose the extender connection all together. I can then walk back to the extender and have no connection even when right next to it. Basically the extender is useless at 30ft because it will always lose connection.
Before anyone says, it's a defective extender. It's not, this is the replacement extender for the first one that had the same issue (and a burnt out power LED).
Can you post a picture of the extender? The first two photos show its connected to the extender. The third is 3g and it won't connect to it on 3g.
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Can you post a picture of the extender? The first two photos show its connected to the extender. The third is 3g and it won't connect to it on 3g.
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The extender is the 4 blue lights in the background. It is the new business class one made by Samsung. It's supposed to have a range of 60ft.
The icon above your signal strength in the pictures shows that you are connected to the extender. It looks like a little house. Barely noticeable but its there. I have three to four bars at one end of my house but the other end only one. The one I have is the residential one but I have very bad 4g reception at my house. I dont really know anything about the business class one. The one I have has a range of about 100 ft. I can walk about half way into the back property without losing connection. I wonder If the materials of the building is causing an issue. I know a local government that bought these for several of its buildings. They didnt work for them because the buildings were concrete and brick. A phone could be 10 ft away from the extender but a wall between them and there was no connection at all.
Im sure this is stuff you already know but I would talk to verizon tier one support about it. They seeem to be a little more knowledgeable.
1 bar and I'm 1ft from extender.
It is showing 1 bar and I'm 1ft from the extender. So I walk 30ft and I got nothing.
The turbo can't do simultaneous voice and data because it has one radio, so whenever I make a call it shows 1x with no bars. I guess when you're on the extender and make a call, it switches to full bars like you said. I don't know anything about these extenders though.
If you place a call, you should see it go up to full strength.
You're seeing the 4G indicator, which is the 4G signal coming in from the network. The Network Extenders are 1X/EV-DO only.
Look at Settings-> About Phone-> Status-> Network Type and Strength and see what it says for 1x (or maybe 3g) strength.
I think digitaloutsider is right- when you're not on a call, and you're in 4G coverage, you'll see your 4G strength on the signal meter (or, at least, the low bar between the two). You can verify that you're going through the network extender by either dialing #48 or listening for a double beep immediately after you dial a number.
I don't have a business extender, but my consumer device doesn't have a great range. When I'm 30 feet away in my house (depending on exactly where I am), I'll see a noticeable drop in signal strength from the extender. It certainly still works anywhere in my house, though.
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Look at Settings-> About Phone-> Status-> Network Type and Strength and see what it says for 1x (or maybe 3g) strength.
I think digitaloutsider is right- when you're not on a call, and you're in 4G coverage, you'll see your 4G strength on the signal meter (or, at least, the low bar between the two). You can verify that you're going through the network extender by either dialing #48 or listening for a double beep immediately after you dial a number.
I don't have a business extender, but my consumer device doesn't have a great range. When I'm 30 feet away in my house (depending on exactly where I am), I'll see a noticeable drop in signal strength from the extender. It certainly still works anywhere in my house, though.
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I believe you guys are correct. It is showing the tower signal, even when the little house extender icon is on. I took several screen shots and they seem to verify the bars are the tower signal. The one issue seems to be that I still am completely losing connection to the extender when I am not far away (45ft), as seen in one of the screens. Certainly not the 60ft range that Verizon claims the business extender can reach.
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I believe you guys are correct. It is showing the tower signal, even when the little house extender icon is on. I took several screen shots and they seem to verify the bars are the tower signal. The one issue seems to be that I still am completely losing connection to the extender when I am not far away (45ft), as seen in one of the screens. Certainly not the 60ft range that Verizon claims the business extender can reach.
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It looks like your phone is getting a stronger signal from a Verizon tower than your network extender in one of the pictures. Are you getting closer to a window in that case?
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It looks like your phone is getting a stronger signal from a Verizon tower than your network extender in one of the pictures. Are you getting closer to a window in that case?
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If you hover over the picture, it will show the file name for the location in relation to the extender. The extender is in an area of better cell tower coverage. I have a serious problem with intermittent cell coverage at this location. One second I'll have an amazing 4G signal, then 10 sec later it will be 1 bar 3G, then seconds after that nothing, then 5 min later great 4G coverage again. I am on the water in Seattle and I have noticed that when it switches to the 3G signal I am actually on a tower 3 miles away across the water. For some reason the signal goes up and down, then switches towers, it's a mess. So I was hoping the extender would give me constant coverage.
The one you are talking about I think is me on the phone, 45ft from the extender (is the phone icon at the top?). But if I get off the phone at that location the signal instantly drops as you can see in another photo labeled 45ft from extender. I honestly think the phone boosts it's reception when on the phone, then lets it drop when not. This would be fine if I only used the phone for phone calls (I use my wifi for data), except that I cannot then get texts when it does this.
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If you hover over the picture, it will show the file name for the location in relation to the extender. The extender is in an area of better cell tower coverage. I have a serious problem with intermittent cell coverage at this location. One second I'll have an amazing 4G signal, then 10 sec later it will be 1 bar 3G, then seconds after that nothing, then 5 min later great 4G coverage again. I am on the water in Seattle and I have noticed that when it switches to the 3G signal I am actually on a tower 3 miles away across the water. For some reason the signal goes up and down, then switches towers, it's a mess. So I was hoping the extender would give me constant coverage.
The one you are talking about I think is me on the phone, 45ft from the extender (is the phone icon at the top?). But if I get off the phone at that location the signal instantly drops as you can see in another photo labeled 45ft from extender. I honestly think the phone boosts it's reception when on the phone, then lets it drop when not. This would be fine if I only used the phone for phone calls (I use my wifi for data), except that I cannot then get texts when it does this.
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Use Verizon Messages, you can send+receive SMS over Wi-Fi and you can open your messages in a web portal from your laptop or another device. Verizon apps don't always suck haha
I am gasping at the remark the turbo has worse reception than the g2. My droid maxx definitely has better reception and hand off than my g3 but both work well.
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I really think it depends on your area as far as reception. The Turbo is the first phone I have used that gets cell reception in my neighborhood. That would be better reception than the OG droid, Bionic, Original Nexus, S3, HTC One, Iphone 4, iphone 5 and Verizon Ellipsis.
That said, due to all the reception issues of the past, I also have the business class extender. I have 2 bars of 4g and when I make a call, it goes over to 1x at full strength. As I move away, the bars drop. I live on half an acre and this thing still works out in the yard. You always know when you are using the extender because of the little bo doop sound it makes when you answer or make a call.