[Q] Does Samsung plan to Fix the Bluetooth? - Galaxy S I9000 General

Hello,
We all know our bluetooth 3.0 is missing something like HID ( am i correct? )
And because of that we can't connect bluetooth devices to it, like Keyboards and Game controllers... Even heard some bluetooth stereo sets won't connect to it, like BMW's embedded ones ( am I correct again? xD )
Has samsung said anything about this HUGE issue? I find it HUGE because it is the only wall i "see" between using the full potential of this device or not using it and think how it would be if i could....
Best regards

BT is not damaged, so there is no fixing
but it can be improved to include more profiles to support more devices
supposedly in 2.2 we might get additional hardware support like the BT keyboards, mouse and such

AllGamer said:
BT is not damaged, so there is no fixing
but it can be improved to include more profiles to support more devices
supposedly in 2.2 we might get additional hardware support like the BT keyboards, mouse and such
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That would mean a profile which would allow us to finally connect a WiiMote ?
And in my opinion the BT is damaged, and needs fixing, it is unacceptable not being able to connect a Bluetooth headset to your 450€ Device
That is how i see things, others may not see it that way, but hey, we are free to have our own opinions right?

as it is right now
the BT is able to connect to standard mono headsets, and stereo headsets
as well as GPS satellite, and Car Stereos (i use it all the time great base/sub!)
it has profiles to transfer files via BT
from my point of view it's pretty complete, with the minor exception of the missing HID keyboard/mouse/game controllers support
the missing BT Profile is more like a missing Driver to support those last 3 devices

Just install blue input or get apps from google to install kb hid. Bt isn't missing anything in sgs. Screw wii input. How many. Normal bt devices do you know can accept wii as input without 3rd party drivers
Typed with bloodied fingers on a Apple Newton 2100. Hail Fuhrer Jobs!

katsuru said:
That would mean a profile which would allow us to finally connect a WiiMote ?
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install this app/driver
Wiimote controller
http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.ccpcreations.android.WiiUseAndroid

I'm pretty sure that Vibrant/SGS isn't supported by that application, AllGamer.
Quote: "This app doesn't work on phones with HTC Sense UI and some newer Samsung phones."
and:
"This worked fantastically on my G1, but sadly, I can't say the same for my Vibrant. Curse uou Touchwiz!"

ickyboo said:
Just install blue input or get apps from google to install kb hid. Bt isn't missing anything in sgs. Screw wii input. How many. Normal bt devices do you know can accept wii as input without 3rd party drivers
Typed with bloodied fingers on a Apple Newton 2100. Hail Fuhrer Jobs!
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Every single Vanilla Android phone? Plus other devices which weren't meant to run Android but do run it Vanilla?

katsuru said:
Every single Vanilla Android phone? Plus other devices which weren't meant to run Android but do run it Vanilla?
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Where is your proof? If that's the case then why did they make wii 3rd party driver? Seriously if you are going to ***** over a small thing like wii remote and kb hid (fixable if you find my bt kb fix in other postings ) then return the sgs and get a more mature phone like the google nexus one god phone. It seems everyone is whining and *****ing over nothing cosidering this phone is brand new without mature software. Every phone has bugs.
Typed with bloodied fingers on a Apple Newton 2100. Hail Fuhrer Jobs!

agree with ickyboo
my though exactly

ickyboo said:
Just install blue input or get apps from google to install kb hid. Bt isn't missing anything in sgs. Screw wii input. How many. Normal bt devices do you know can accept wii as input without 3rd party drivers
Typed with bloodied fingers on a Apple Newton 2100. Hail Fuhrer Jobs!
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Ironically enough, your "fix" was posted on the forum for the product on dealextreme, doesn't say what phone the fix is for, and doesn't work on the SGS.
BT is missing something in the SGS - the 3rd party apps you believe would fix the issue don't work. hcitool doesn't recognise a local BT device, and so can't connect to anything, all the wiimote apps error on connection - this is not a lack of profiles, it's a lack of (or at the very least, different; different enough to cause a whole host of devices and 3rd party apps to be incompatible with the SGS) implementation one way or another.
Please, try your fixes before you go preaching "screw wii input".

ickyboo said:
Where is your proof? If that's the case then why did they make wii 3rd party driver? Seriously if you are going to ***** over a small thing like wii remote and kb hid (fixable if you find my bt kb fix in other postings ) then return the sgs and get a more mature phone like the google nexus one god phone. It seems everyone is whining and *****ing over nothing cosidering this phone is brand new without mature software. Every phone has bugs.
Typed with bloodied fingers on a Apple Newton 2100. Hail Fuhrer Jobs!
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My proof?
G1, Magic, Desire, Nexus , Milestone and X10 Mini Pro all have HID drivers... I tested them all.
You should know that by now, every Vanilla android device and devices with vanilla intact BT connect to wiimotes...

AllGamer said:
as it is right now
the BT is able to connect to standard mono headsets, and stereo headsets
as well as GPS satellite, and Car Stereos (i use it all the time great base/sub!)
it has profiles to transfer files via BT
from my point of view it's pretty complete, with the minor exception of the missing HID keyboard/mouse/game controllers support
the missing BT Profile is more like a missing Driver to support those last 3 devices
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Hey!
How do you use your Galaxy as an MP3 player for car audio?! You said good Bass, but isn't bluetooth audio only MONO?
Thanks

I tried as well, it was stereo and worked great!

hiraj_panosian said:
I tried as well, it was stereo and worked great!
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WOW!! How did you do it?! GOD! =))))

Phk said:
WOW!! How did you do it?! GOD! =))))
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Perhaps he connected it to something with proper bluetooth compatibility, so it didn't matter that the SGS has BT3.0 as backward compatibility worked as it should?

mickeko said:
Perhaps he connected it to something with proper bluetooth compatibility, so it didn't matter that the SGS has BT3.0 as backward compatibility worked as it should?
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I'm trying to "stream" some MP3 to my car audio but i don't know how

your car needs to have a Bluetooth 2.0+ receiver unit

AllGamer said:
your car needs to have a Bluetooth 2.0+ receiver unit
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Yes, the car is new, just came out from the shop
But i have it paired, i pickup calls, but then HOW do i play Audio to the car? Which program should i use and what options must i have?
Thanks

Phk said:
Hey!
How do you use your Galaxy as an MP3 player for car audio?! You said good Bass, but isn't bluetooth audio only MONO?
Thanks
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Er, you do know that bass frequencies don't only exist in stereo signals, right?

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FM Radio on Universal anyone?

Hello everyone,
Hope all is fine with each & everyone of you.
I have a question that I need to ask (especially for those who live in the US of A) or those who are very tech savvy with in depth understanding of HTC devices hardware, if any of you had tried this item (or can try it & confirm)
http://www.gomogear.com/detail.aspx?PRODUCT_ID=214620
It would be really cool to have an FM Radio in our (at least my ) PPC
It uses the SDIO technology, I dont know if its supported by Universal but as you can see in this table
http://www.gomogear.com/genDocs/SDFM2updatedCompatibilityList.html
They do NOT list any Universal device, but again if you see the bottom of the main page, it reads Copyright © 2005 GoMoGear.com
which means they do NOT update their site as often as they should, so maybe...
I hope to hear the good news soon, of course if you happen to know an alternative for this gadget, please let us (me) know
Thank you & have a nice weekend.
i don't know about radio, but i use sling media and watch my tv all the time. there is a setting that you can choose the uses audio only as well
Well one can use Nokia HS 12w BT headset for FM...I am using & its amazing...
dean56 said:
i don't know about radio, but i use sling media and watch my tv all the time. there is a setting that you can choose the uses audio only as well
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Hello Dean,
Well for a start I thought (Sling Media) was some GPRS service or 3G feature that your network operates, I did some search and I found out that this is a device you have to install somewhere & then have internet connection to be able to receive it's signal wherever you are, I like the idea, but this is not what I meant with the original post, this mean you has to have whole lot of equipments (TV, cable, satellite, etc..) somewhere (home or office).
The thing I referred to in the original post is a SDIO card, same as SD that we use for storage on our Universals, but these comes with built in IO (Input/Output) features, check this out for more details
http://www.sdcard.org/sdio/index.html
I found a product that provides FM tuner in an SDIO card, but they do not list Universal as a compatible device, not because its not (I think) but because they have not tried it it, as it is (the SDIO) compatible with previous HTC models.
I hope someone can confirm
Have a nice weekend
hdubli said:
Well one can use Nokia HS 12w BT headset for FM...I am using & its amazing...
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Well I didnt know Nokia HS 12w BT has built-in FM tuner, which is cool if it is, but I do already have a Motorola BT HT820 headset.
By the way, although Nokia headset are supposed to be wireless, the real thing is that they do have wires (Motorola HT850 is really wireless), but again this is not what we are talking about here, its the FM on Universal.
Thank you for your idea though mate!
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HS 12w has builtin FM TUner....
Can't comment on the one you're asking about but the link below has one that I can guarantee does work as I have one. http://www.c-guysusa.com/
Lakota said:
Can't comment on the one you're asking about but the link below has one that I can guarantee does work as I have one. http://www.c-guysusa.com/
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Does it work with Universal even if it is not listed?!
I read the compatibility page and something tells me that it IS the same device, as they both have SAME listed phones the SAME way, anyways I don't care what is the brand on it as long as it is working, so can you please confirm it is working with Universal?
Did you have any problem installing the software?
Thanks Mate & I hope you had a nice weekend!
Cheers
hdubli said:
HS 12w has builtin FM TUner....
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Cool! I will consider it for sure
Thanx!
CerberuS said:
Lakota said:
Can't comment on the one you're asking about but the link below has one that I can guarantee does work as I have one. http://www.c-guysusa.com/
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Does it work with Universal even if it is not listed?!
I read the compatibility page and something tells me that it IS the same device, as they both have SAME listed phones the SAME way, anyways I don't care what is the brand on it as long as it is working, so can you please confirm it is working with Universal?
Did you have any problem installing the software?
Thanks Mate & I hope you had a nice weekend!
Cheers
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Indeed I can confirm it works even though it's not listed. I had no trouble installing the software but the user interface is quite basic and not much to look at.
[quote="Lakota]
Indeed I can confirm it works even though it's not listed. I had no trouble installing the software but the user interface is quite basic and not much to look at.[/quote]
Thanks Mate!
This is what I needed to hear.
All the best!
Cheers

Drag retarded Hero into 21st century

Bluetooth has been available on mobile phones for almost 10 years
My shiny new Hero which I consider to be an excellent piece of work is pretty useless in this department....file transfers hands free connection etc
If a phone that costs £30 from tescos can do this why cant the £400 quid hero?
Why is android incapable of this extremely basic functionality? Why are android phones on sale at all? the OS is not finished and will not be untill Bluetooth just works.
I have pissed off several friends by recomending this phone pre release assuming that the bluetooth profiles had been fixed on the hero. But if they cant send mates in the pub a photo of a friend falling over or use their hands free kits how can I blame them?
Is there a timescale for adding working bluetooth to android?
Ask Google. They're the ones that only programmed handsfree profiles in. Apparently it's supposed to be fairly soon.
Also, you know what they say about assuming.....
but yeah, it's a bit of a glaring omission. but then didn't the iphone do exactly the same when it first came out?
rhedgehog said:
Ask Google. They're the ones that only programmed handsfree profiles in. Apparently it's supposed to be fairly soon.
Also, you know what they say about assuming.....
but yeah, it's a bit of a glaring omission. but then didn't the iphone do exactly the same when it first came out?
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Don't just blame Google tho... Android is open source and the Hero's version is a seperate dev branch to the cupcake 1.5 thats on standard 'Google' phones. I mean they must have fiddled with it anyway as some things that worked on the standard 1.5 build don't work on the Hero.
So HTC are just as much to blame for this... what can we call it... oversight...
Ovek said:
So HTC are just as much to blame for this... what can we call it... oversight...
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No they are not! The reason that this functionality is not available is because the Bluetooth APIs have not be finalized. Whilst potentially HTC could have added their own, this would have fragmented Android as an OS and this is definitely not the way forward.
Unfortunately, Apple showed that the market will accept reduced functionality in devices, when they shipped the original iPhone.
However, with respect to Google, I fully agree that nearly a year down the line since the G1 was launched, they should've got further than they have with Bluetooth support.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
No they are not! The reason that this functionality is not available is because the Bluetooth APIs have not be finalized. Whilst potentially HTC could have added their own, this would have fragmented Android as an OS and this is definitely not the way forward.
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The Android OS will become fragmented, Android is designed that way it's supposed to be a base on which mobile phone manufactures can build upon. It's also the reason you get "with Google" phones, if you want a pure Android OS those are the phones you buy.
HTC should have seized the opportunity to fix some of the glaring ommisions from Android, epecially considering that there is no indication that any more bluetooth profiles are included in donut.
rhedgehog said:
Ask Google. They're the ones that only programmed handsfree profiles in. Apparently it's supposed to be fairly soon.
Also, you know what they say about assuming.....
but yeah, it's a bit of a glaring omission. but then didn't the iphone do exactly the same when it first came out?
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I say assume, but HTC posted bluetooth profiles on the android community as GAP SPP HSP HFP A2DP and AVRCP profile, so where are they?
I admiit I should have checked for OBEX, I was probably caught up in the hype, and the oooos and arghhs of the reviews, perhaps the reveiwers should have started with..... erm this phone does not work before we parted with our hard earned. Shame on you engadget
puckoon said:
I say assume, but HTC posted bluetooth profiles on the android community as GAP SPP HSP HFP A2DP and AVRCP profile, so where are they?
I admiit I should have checked for OBEX, I was probably caught up in the hype, and the oooos and arghhs of the reviews, perhaps the reveiwers should have started with..... erm this phone does not work before we parted with our hard earned. Shame on you engadget
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Just get BlueX and use one of the many methods to root the phone, then you'll have full send/receive bluetooth capabilities. It's very easy.
does bluex actually work on the hero? and is it one of the ones that seems to be hidden on some hero devices?
Didn't know that HTC had put those profiles out there...but if they're just in beta or being tested, then i am sure they'll be here soon.
and besides, the base android build on the hero is the same as on the magic, it's just had a few kernel changes for any hero specific hardware, it's still running 1.5.
i personally knew the device had no obex, and still got it. I suppose it's each to their own really. Millions of people got the iphone and were rabid about how wonderful it was even though it was missing some basic features. i bet hero will have the same kinda people, on both sides of the argument.
i like it and am happy, but am certainly not going to defend the missing features, i just rely on the fact that as i am happy with it as it is, anything extra is a bonus.....
rhedgehog said:
does bluex actually work on the hero? and is it one of the ones that seems to be hidden on some hero devices?
Didn't know that HTC had put those profiles out there...but if they're just in beta or being tested, then i am sure they'll be here soon.
and besides, the base android build on the hero is the same as on the magic, it's just had a few kernel changes for any hero specific hardware, it's still running 1.5.
i personally knew the device had no obex, and still got it. I suppose it's each to their own really. Millions of people got the iphone and were rabid about how wonderful it was even though it was missing some basic features. i bet hero will have the same kinda people, on both sides of the argument.
i like it and am happy, but am certainly not going to defend the missing features, i just rely on the fact that as i am happy with it as it is, anything extra is a bonus.....
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I for one have not beeen able to get Bluex to work on Hero neither Root explorer????
Ok (Grits teeth)
Still love the phone would still buy it (friends probably wont till bluetooth fixed) would have liked a choice on the bluetooth though.
If the reviewers were paying more attention to the bluetooth deficiency I am sure google would be urgently fixing it!
Guess will have to wait. Please dont hesitate to let us all know when you find out they've fixed it
Ovek said:
The Android OS will become fragmented, Android is designed that way it's supposed to be a base on which mobile phone manufactures can build upon.
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Yes it is - and the bluetooth APIs are part of that base!
Google were very specific about why they chose not to ship Android with broken APIs (see http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/some-information-on-apis-removed-in.html ). If HTC had "done their own thing" they too would have been committed to support this for years to come.
As a developer, personally I'd be happy to wait for a single fit-for-purpose API to come to Android, than support a wide variety of vendor-specific extensions.
If Android wants to gain serious traction in the Smartphone market, they need to look at Apple and the iPhone. Here you've a single software and hardware platform which is going to make application development far simpler.
It is ok to build on top of the Android platform (as you said yourself), but if each handset vendor goes about changing the underlying nuts and bolts differently this will adversely affect market acceptance of the platform.
Regards,
Dave
so bluetooth does not work on shipped devices?
it works on the htcmagic hero rom but not on the dream hero rom. hack
i wonder why
bluetooth works, but only for headsets.
maybe the magic rom has bluex installed, as i know bluex works on the magic, but not on the hero
rhedgehog said:
bluetooth works, but only for headsets.
maybe the magic rom has bluex installed, as i know bluex works on the magic, but not on the hero
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Hero supports a few more profiles than just headsets.
From the HTC website:
Q.
What Bluetooth profiles are supported?
The phone supports Bluetooth Headset, Handsfree, A2DP, and AVRCP profiles. You can connect your phone to a Bluetooth hands-free headset or a Bluetooth car kit and use those devices to listen to music and send and/or receive calls. Transferring files between your phone and PC using Bluetooth is not yet supported.
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We won't see file transfer or OBEX until Google finalize the bluetooth APIs.
Regards,
Dave
puckoon said:
I have pissed off several friends by recomending this phone pre release assuming that the bluetooth profiles had been fixed on the hero. But if they cant send mates in the pub a photo of a friend falling over or use their hands free kits how can I blame them?
Is there a timescale for adding working bluetooth to android?
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Agree about the file transfer (although its a smartphone so use flikr/twitter)
As for handsfree I am using just fine with my Parrot MKi9200 car kit. Full handsfree and A2DP Stereo support with controls. Full address book sync etc.
So apart from file transfer its got a full set of useful features.
Russ
RussST24 said:
Agree about the file transfer (although its a smartphone so use flikr/twitter)
As for handsfree I am using just fine with my Parrot MKi9200 car kit. Full handsfree and A2DP Stereo support with controls. Full address book sync etc.
So apart from file transfer its got a full set of useful features.
Russ
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How did you get the address book to sync, I thought this didn't work, and it doesn't seem to with my Alpine kit. Did you install bluex?
The Bluetooth kit in my Land Rover Discovery 3 can pull the contacts list off my Hero and also notify me of who is calling in the head unit.
Pretty sure its not been pulled off my Nokia N85 when I used that as there is no storage in the kit as far as I am aware.
Its also just to note - a Nokia kit sourced / OEM'd by Land Rover and is the standard Bluetooth PTI they factory build.
ewans said:
How did you get the address book to sync, I thought this didn't work, and it doesn't seem to with my Alpine kit. Did you install bluex?
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No, I have the same car kit, it just works as is from the box.
Hi,
I was a bit confused by this thread and all the bluetooth problems. At the moment I have a Touch Diamond but I am up for an upgrade in the next month so I am looking at either the Diamond 2 or the Hero. I have a Sony BTNX20 stereo BT headset that i use for everything, Will I still be able to use this headset for stereo music on the Hero? Also what video files can it play? Or is there something like Core Player available that will play everything? A bit off topic but i thought id ask since i had a bluetooth question!
mightycaz said:
Hi,
I was a bit confused by this thread and all the bluetooth problems. At the moment I have a Touch Diamond but I am up for an upgrade in the next month so I am looking at either the Diamond 2 or the Hero. I have a Sony BTNX20 stereo BT headset that i use for everything, Will I still be able to use this headset for stereo music on the Hero? Also what video files can it play? Or is there something like Core Player available that will play everything? A bit off topic but i thought id ask since i had a bluetooth question!
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Your BT headset should be fine, as for video play back... well it's poor. And as for Core player it won't be out for long time (if ever!).

Bluetooth devices that work

I thought I would start a thread for what works and does not for bluetooth.
My A500 connects and works perfectly with:
Sony headphones model DR-BT21G
Freedom Pro keyboard set to HID - no special driver needed
Think Outside folding Keyboard - this is no longer on the market
My wii controller using wiimote controller and pce.emu from android market.
Wiimote controller lets me play with all the tiger emus and pce.emu has native wiimote support.
Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk
godashram said:
My wii controller using wiimote controller and pce.emu
Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk
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Please expand, perhaps in another thread?
Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk
Motorola S305 bluetooth A2DP headphones - works brilliantly including music control buttons
This keyboard: http://www.amazon.com/Handheld-Bluet...5136916&sr=1-9
No mouse like controls but it is not needed.
This one.
Tested this one. Working well. No need a driver and any software.
xjarl said:
Tested this one. Working well. No need a driver and any software.
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where to buy it?
kmetek said:
where to buy it?
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I'm supposed to have one on the way for 'review' and see what it takes to get them US bound
xjarl said:
Tested this one. Working well. No need a driver and any software.
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what case is in the photo?
Rocketfish RF-MAB2 Headphones work and sound good
Case for G tablet
Petros_tigra said:
what case is in the photo?
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That's the case for Gtablet. Named by It2steve: Clip
OT
xjarl said:
Tested this one. Working well. No need a driver and any software.
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Why no one seems to be annoyed by this bright spot in the right of the screen??
It is only noticeable in bright colored backgrounds (white, light blue etc), but it completely goes away on dark backgrounds and you cant notice it at all.
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I ve seen this issue on every device i ever hold in my hands (demo display devices o9n stores), including my own.
I have started a thread about this some days ago : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1077527&highlight=light+bleeding , but there seems to be only few ppl worried about this..
So i wonder, does everyone else suck it up and live with it?? Maybe you havent noticed it yet?? Maybe its not so bad on your device ?? Maybe you dont have it at all ??
As far as i m concerned it really pisses me off when i look at this spot on a white background !!!
Sony DR-BT100CX Bluetooth headphones working great, incl. player controls (pause/play, FF, RW). I haven't tried the headset's microphone, but suspect it might not work yet based the user manual:
user manual said:
Note: Only A2DP stereo headsets (without microphone) are supported.
Please check for updates to the tablet's software which may add support for
additional Bluetooth devices.
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The Palm Wireless Keyboard (3245WW) works perfectly. Saw no reason to buy a different one when I had this one laying around collecting dust. You can still find them used and a rare few that are new. I'm pretty sure this is just a Think Outside keyboard with the Palm brand on it.
I have also gotten the Wii Remote working well with a Nintendo 64 emulator. I'm using WiiMote Control and N64oid.
I'll be following this thread because I'm looking to get some wireless headphones.
anstelios said:
So i wonder, does everyone else suck it up and live with it?? Maybe you havent noticed it yet?? Maybe its not so bad on your device ?? Maybe you dont have it at all ??
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Dude! Thanks for ruining my tablet for me! I hadn't notice this white spot at all...!
Targus Bluetooth keyboard for iPad
So far, I'm liking this keyboard. A few of the buttons are marked a bit oddly for Android, but overall, I really just wanted the basics. A few of the specialty keys work well - magnifier bring up search, volume keys work, arrows scroll and pan...
So, yeah..not too bad and pretty low profile as well. Operates off two AAA batteries Paired very easily. Occasionally after a long period of not being used, I have to turn it off and on again, but it reconnects Very Quickly.
Very Happy until the next one that's perfect comes along.
51.00 from tiger Direct (no shipping and no tax!)
my jaybird bluetooth headphones work great.
Qstarz BT-q818 bluetooth GPS unit.
I use my tab as a moving map in the airplane where the tab doesn't have a clear view of the sky. the BT GPS has a 42 hour rechargeable battery and works quite well. Download the Bluetooth GPS App from the market and enable Mock Locations to get it to work.
Astro
Polaroid PoGo Printer
My Polaroid PoGo Printer works well with the Iconia.
other than it being pricey, this works on my tab. I mainly use it for my media center
The Logitech keyboard for tablets works great!
I got mine at Best Buy - they did not have the "Android" model but the one for iPad is the same product.

Best Car Stereo for most functionality with android phone

I am in the search for the best, well best for a descent price that is probably double din card stereo with the best Android integration.
By that I mean mainly blue tooth and usb.
I know based on some of the bluetooth protocols there are quite a range of things that can be integrated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth#Bluetooth_protocol_stack)
For example pluging into USB and the deck seeing the internal memory as well as SD Card to be able to play files from it, bluetooth being able to push music to the deck as well as the deck being able to communicate with apps such as pandora to skip tracks and such from the deck.
My searches thus far have lead to me this model http://www.crutchfield.com/p_105KWHR81B/JVC-KW-HDR81BT.html?showAll=N&search=KW-HDR81BT&skipvs=T
But I know there is one more bluetooth feature I would like and that is (MAP) Message Access Profile, which allows for text related messages to the deck for text to speech functions an such. (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_...tooth-do-besides-make-calls-abcs-of-car-tech/)
So anyone have ideas, I think there are new models announced close to this time of year right?
Anyone have good suggestions for a review site?
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I am in the search for the best, well best for a descent price that is probably double din card stereo with the best Android integration.
By that I mean mainly blue tooth and usb.
I know based on some of the bluetooth protocols there are quite a range of things that can be integrated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth#Bluetooth_protocol_stack)
For example pluging into USB and the deck seeing the internal memory as well as SD Card to be able to play files from it, bluetooth being able to push music to the deck as well as the deck being able to communicate with apps such as pandora to skip tracks and such from the deck.
My searches thus far have lead to me this model http://www.crutchfield.com/p_105KWHR81B/JVC-KW-HDR81BT.html?showAll=N&search=KW-HDR81BT&skipvs=T
But I know there is one more bluetooth feature I would like and that is (MAP) Message Access Profile, which allows for text related messages to the deck for text to speech functions an such. (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_...tooth-do-besides-make-calls-abcs-of-car-tech/)
So anyone have ideas, I think there are new models announced close to this time of year right?
Anyone have good suggestions for a review site?
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This is what I'm looking into. Somebody sent me a screen shot of the app radio hooked up to their HTC and it even had the sense 4 lock ring displayed
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/AppRadio/AppRadio+2+(SPH-DA100)
CharliesTheMan said:
This is what I'm looking into. Somebody sent me a screen shot of the app radio hooked up to their HTC and it even had the sense 4 lock ring displayed
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/AppRadio/AppRadio+2+(SPH-DA100)
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That looks very cool but my phone is not on the list plus it seems like something that is in its infancy still. I think a broader technology like bluetooth that could be compatible with many more devices may be a better way of connecting. I think that kind of thing will be awesome in a few years when they nail down a standard for communicating audio/video to the head unit, almost like the head unit is just a monitor to the phone and a touchscreen monitor at that.
I'm actually looking for the same thing right now. I don't want to spend $500+ dollars on a head unit when I could buy a nexus tablet to do everything for half that. But I do want a stand alone radio that I can use with a phone or streaming data, plus a built in amp with preamp outs would be perfect.
App Radio 2 has many issues.
sureshot007 said:
I'm actually looking for the same thing right now. I don't want to spend $500+ dollars on a head unit when I could buy a nexus tablet to do everything for half that. But I do want a stand alone radio that I can use with a phone or streaming data, plus a built in amp with preamp outs would be perfect.
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I just purchased the App Radio 2, and am returning it to Crutchfield. The screen is nice looking, but otherwise it is the single most disappointing electronic device I have ever purchased. I won't go into the long list of complaints about the device, as the hatred I now have for it could destroy a small city. Suffice to say that the unit functions as designed, but was likely designed by a team of engineers who had never seen a car, radio, phone or normal human being. There are a few threads here for people who are still trying to make the device worthwhile, with a particular success in the ARLiberator App.
I'm tempted to try that out, but the reality is the radio software itself is the problem in my opinion. It would be great to use the ARLiberator phone functions, but I don't like the firmware of the radio.
I'm looking at other options and right now the Parrot Asteroid Smart is a front-runner. I'm conflicted as it has runs Android 2.3 and I was hoping for something more current. Search around on the forum for more details on both before you purchase, there are many potential show stoppers.
hey guys,
I've been searching for a Android Head unit for a while now. I too hate the fact that most of them are 2.3, but check this unit out.
ebay.com/itm/Hot-2-Din-Car-Radio-DVD-Player-Fast-Cpu-Android-4-0-WIFI-3G-GPS-Ipod-Bluetooth-/170939816360
recently stumbled over it. Wondering if any has seen one or has one, worry about the quality. Currently, I'm also considering Parrot's new unit.
Hope this helps.
Dan.S said:
I just purchased the App Radio 2, and am returning it to Crutchfield. The screen is nice looking, but otherwise it is the single most disappointing electronic device I have ever purchased. I won't go into the long list of complaints about the device, as the hatred I now have for it could destroy a small city. Suffice to say that the unit functions as designed, but was likely designed by a team of engineers who had never seen a car, radio, phone or normal human being. There are a few threads here for people who are still trying to make the device worthwhile, with a particular success in the ARLiberator App.
I'm tempted to try that out, but the reality is the radio software itself is the problem in my opinion. It would be great to use the ARLiberator phone functions, but I don't like the firmware of the radio.
I'm looking at other options and right now the Parrot Asteroid Smart is a front-runner. I'm conflicted as it has runs Android 2.3 and I was hoping for something more current. Search around on the forum for more details on both before you purchase, there are many potential show stoppers.
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I tried it WITH ARLiberator and I still hate it. I'm looking at the Chinese Double Din HU's now that run only Android (not wince and android).
RSO86 said:
hey guys,
I've been searching for a Android Head unit for a while now. I too hate the fact that most of them are 2.3, but check this unit out.
ebay.com/itm/Hot-2-Din-Car-Radio-DVD-Player-Fast-Cpu-Android-4-0-WIFI-3G-GPS-Ipod-Bluetooth-/170939816360
recently stumbled over it. Wondering if any has seen one or has one, worry about the quality. Currently, I'm also considering Parrot's new unit.
Hope this helps.
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Did you buy one? I'm looking at getting one like this or something similar...
I'm currently looking for a replacement for my Clarion CX501, any updates from anyone? Seems like the APT-X support has yet to hit the headunit market.
Has no one found a good unit yet? Please update!
copekyle said:
Has no one found a good unit yet? Please update!
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Get an android based double din radio, make sure its dual core, 1G Ram, DAB+ supported, 6.2-7" TFT capacitive touch screen, steering wheel controls supported and accepts WiFi dongle. you will have the mighty Google Play store to satisfy your imagination.
obviously such a unit would support most of the Bluetooth profiles.
I noticed few units on ebay but not from any known manufacturer. best i found was from some German supplier icar-tech
Alpha V800 and Alpha S600 are the ones, I haven't confirmed all the above requirements that I would wanna see in my next head unit.
Good Luck
maxpower2078 said:
I am in the search for the best, well best for a descent price that is probably double din card stereo with the best Android integration.
By that I mean mainly blue tooth and usb.
I know based on some of the bluetooth protocols there are quite a range of things that can be integrated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth#Bluetooth_protocol_stack)
For example pluging into USB and the deck seeing the internal memory as well as SD Card to be able to play files from it, bluetooth being able to push music to the deck as well as the deck being able to communicate with apps such as pandora to skip tracks and such from the deck.
My searches thus far have lead to me this model http://www.crutchfield.com/p_105KWHR81B/JVC-KW-HDR81BT.html?showAll=N&search=KW-HDR81BT&skipvs=T
But I know there is one more bluetooth feature I would like and that is (MAP) Message Access Profile, which allows for text related messages to the deck for text to speech functions an such. (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_...tooth-do-besides-make-calls-abcs-of-car-tech/)
So anyone have ideas, I think there are new models announced close to this time of year right?
Anyone have good suggestions for a review site?
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You want Android in your car...install a tablet in the dash. That's the best option, or you could go with the Parrot. But from the reviews I've seen I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.
Car Stereo
Hi,
Did you end up getting this head unit?
Does it work well?
RSO86 said:
hey guys,
I've been searching for a Android Head unit for a while now. I too hate the fact that most of them are 2.3, but check this unit out.
ebay.com/itm/Hot-2-Din-Car-Radio-DVD-Player-Fast-Cpu-Android-4-0-WIFI-3G-GPS-Ipod-Bluetooth-/170939816360
recently stumbled over it. Wondering if any has seen one or has one, worry about the quality. Currently, I'm also considering Parrot's new unit.
Hope this helps.
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I wanted to get in on this thread to see if anyone has actually pulled the trigger and bought something yet.
I share the same mentality -- the phone/tablet can handle most of the "smart" functions. All that's needed is rock-solid bluetooth support. If it does great USB, that's a huge bonus.
I have one of the older Pioneer stereos that first did Bluetooth. I got it around 2007. The market has matured a lot since then and I'm itching for an upgrade.
WuddaWaste said:
I wanted to get in on this thread to see if anyone has actually pulled the trigger and bought something yet.
I share the same mentality -- the phone/tablet can handle most of the "smart" functions. All that's needed is rock-solid bluetooth support. If it does great USB, that's a huge bonus.
I have one of the older Pioneer stereos that first did Bluetooth. I got it around 2007. The market has matured a lot since then and I'm itching for an upgrade.
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I've had a look around many different forums and stores, and I'm still at square one. I totally agree that all that's needed is rock-solid bluetooth support.
I've been into a few shops in the last few days and BT paired my GS2 running CM11 and Google Play Music with some head units....for what they can do via bluetooth, they all seem to do a decent job of it......I can skip/pause songs on either the head unti or the phone, Google Play Music on the phone updates as you switch songs on the HU.
But what it doesn't seem capable of (that I've seen or read about), which apparently iPhones can do, is change albums, browse by artist/genre, search, etc.....beyond the most basic of back/next/pause functions, unless I'm mistaken, it's just not possible when BT pairing an Android phone with any head unit on the market.
Can anyone definitively confirm that this is or is not true?
Well.... Now that android auto is in the making, maybe there will be some better offerings available for those of us looking for a good stereo!
1990clb said:
Well.... Now that android auto is in the making, maybe there will be some better offerings available for those of us looking for a good stereo!
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Until then what are we supposed to do ..buy an IPhone?
I have a Google Nexus 4 and went too the effort of looking into the options. I find it utterly amazing in an Android phone you can't browse albums over bluetooth its simply a joke!
The best option would be to try to maybe get a double DIN car stereo with support some kind of screen mirroring so you can change album from the touch screen maybe something like a AVIC-F60DAB but it costs a grand would be cheaper for me to buy an IPhone!!!
I belive you need the AVRCP standard if you want the track listing to display on your headset via Bluetooth.
Even if I could get a Car Stereo to support my mobile..the big problem with the Google nexus and it seems many Android devices they don't support Bluetooth very well. There is a bug in the Nexus 4 so that when you are using bluetooth in your car stereo after a while Bluetooth will just turn off Google don't seem to care about fixing this..I don't really want to get an Apple but if means I can listen to Music via Bluetooth and get access to Google Music then why not.!!
I have a Double Din car stereo. It's the Pioneer AppRadio 3 and it works well mirroring my Nexus 5. There's an app called "AppRadio Unchained" which let's you control your phone via the touch screen of the stereo. The only downside is the lack of power on the radio which makes the scrolling not as fast as any Android phone nowadays, but the Bluetooth has been working non-stop for me.
I had to buy an HDMI dapter to make it compatible though.
I've had a look at these but they are expensive! Maybe if I get a raise I'll buy one haha!
I was hoping to get something similar, but without having to use a HDMI adapter, a completely wireless solution would be kick ass!

[Q] Motoactv pairing issues with LG Tone+ HBS-730: fixable?

Having an issue pairing my Motoactv to the new bluetooth headset I just bought, the LG Tone+ (HBS-730). Motoactv won't even see it. Headset connects just fine to the phone, and Motoactv connects to phone and old headset (Motorola S10-HD) without a hitch. Tried removing all existing bluetooth connections on all devices. On Motorola's advice, factory reset Motoactv. Nothing seems to be helping.
Does anyone know if this is something that a dev could fix? If it's a simple "no, there's no way modding will fix that", please let me know, so I can return this headset. I really appreciate any help. I bought this thing because it can connect to 2 devices, where the S10 could not. Doesn't do much good if it won't pair, does it?
I couldn't find a better place to put this, since Motoactv doesn't have its own section. Hope that was OK.
davidam091 said:
Having an issue pairing my Motoactv to the new bluetooth headset I just bought, the LG Tone+ (HBS-730). Motoactv won't even see it. Headset connects just fine to the phone, and Motoactv connects to phone and old headset (Motorola S10-HD) without a hitch. Tried removing all existing bluetooth connections on all devices. On Motorola's advice, factory reset Motoactv. Nothing seems to be helping.
Does anyone know if this is something that a dev could fix? If it's a simple "no, there's no way modding will fix that", please let me know, so I can return this headset. I really appreciate any help. I bought this thing because it can connect to 2 devices, where the S10 could not. Doesn't do much good if it won't pair, does it?
I couldn't find a better place to put this, since Motoactv doesn't have its own section. Hope that was OK.
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If the MotoACTV does not see the headset while the headset is in pairing mode then it won't work. It will not pair with something it cannot see. Not sure why it wouldn't see it though. The MotoACTV uses bluetooth 4.0 so the LG's bluetooth 2.0 should be seen with ease. My suggestion would be to remove all bluetooth devices from MotoACTV. Reboot the MotoACTV and try again. Also make sure that ALL other devices have their bluetooth turned as so they don't see the LG and try to pair with it. If that doesn't work then odds are it won't work at all.
I think this new version of the headset is Bluetooth 3.0. It's the Tone+ 730, not the Tone 700 original (which, apparently, has no issues pairing with the Motoactv).
davidam091 said:
I think this new version of the headset is Bluetooth 3.0. It's the Tone+ 730, not the Tone 700 original (which, apparently, has no issues pairing with the Motoactv).
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MotoACTV is still 4.0 so it should be compatible with 3.0, good luck
pairing
Ill let you know i own one of these headsets and should be recieving my motoactv in the mail soon.
Any ideas on the issue guys? I have a Motorola h500 and an LG-HBM 235 and neither will pair with the motoactv. It drives me absolutely nuts that the Motorola headset doesn't even work with the motorola motoactv. I mean really, WTF man? I don't want a big stereo headset. SMH. If i could finally get bluetooth audio, this thing would be great. In fact, they need to make a new model with a speaker and mic then it would be the greatest!
Figured it out. Your bluetooth earpiece/headset must be A2DP compatible.
heat22 said:
Figured it out. Your bluetooth earpiece/headset must be A2DP compatible.
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I can't post links yet, but on the LG site, it says the 730 has A2DP...
Man, this is driving me nuts. I love these headphones, and they seem awesome for running. But I'll never know at this rate...
davidam091 said:
I can't post links yet, but on the LG site, it says the 730 has A2DP...
Man, this is driving me nuts. I love these headphones, and they seem awesome for running. But I'll never know at this rate...
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I have these headphones as well but have always had them paired to the phone. I just tried to pair them with my actv just to see if my results were any different but unfortunately, I have the same issue.
It may be possible to pair them through a third party app but I haven't tried.
Artimis said:
I have these headphones as well but have always had them paired to the phone. I just tried to pair them with my actv just to see if my results were any different but unfortunately, I have the same issue.
It may be possible to pair them through a third party app but I haven't tried.
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Any suggestions for 3rd party apps that would do this? I'm willing to try.
Also, does anyone think that modding the ACTV with some of the work the guys here on XDA have done will have any effect? I'm reading threads dealing with similar problems with other devices (e.g. car kits) and some are saying its a bluetooth driver issue. Maybe a custom UI will include different bluetooth drivers?
I know it's annoying to hear people ask for free work, but if any of you ACTV programmers/modders think you can tackle this issue, we'd all really appreciate it. It's incredibly frustrating when you buy 2 things that should work together just fine, but for some unknown reason, just don't.
Thanks!
davidam091 said:
Any suggestions for 3rd party apps that would do this? I'm willing to try.
Also, does anyone think that modding the ACTV with some of the work the guys here on XDA have done will have any effect? I'm reading threads dealing with similar problems with other devices (e.g. car kits) and some are saying its a bluetooth driver issue. Maybe a custom UI will include different bluetooth drivers?
I know it's annoying to hear people ask for free work, but if any of you ACTV programmers/modders think you can tackle this issue, we'd all really appreciate it. It's incredibly frustrating when you buy 2 things that should work together just fine, but for some unknown reason, just don't.
Thanks!
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Perhaps something like this could work? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.IG.BluetoothManager
Alternatively, if your device is rooted there are .conf files under /system/etc/bluetooth/ that could potentially be modified to get this working. For example, audio.conf could be modified to remove "Disable=Headset" as well as enable HFP. These changes could possibly resolve the issue but I haven't tried tinkering with them.
Artimis said:
Perhaps something like this could work? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.IG.BluetoothManager
Alternatively, if your device is rooted there are .conf files under /system/etc/bluetooth/ that could potentially be modified to get this working. For example, audio.conf could be modified to remove "Disable=Headset" as well as enable HFP. These changes could possibly resolve the issue but I haven't tried tinkering with them.
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Ok, so I decided to tinker a little and the app I mentioned did not work.....neither did some of the modifications I made to to the audio.conf file.
However, I did download this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=es.qrr.android.btoolkit
In the app settings, I enabled experimental mode and was able to find the HBS-730 headset and pair with it. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to go any further than that. Even though it is paired, music wasn't routing to it (granted I didn't use the stock music player -- that may have worked).
I believe the actv is treating the HBS-730 like a phone, tablet, or comp rather than just a headset which is why it is not interacting directly with it. There may be another app with root privileges (like the original app I suggested) that could possibly route the audio correctly but I haven't had the time to tinker with it and don't typically need audio output from my actv anyway.
Hope this somewhat helps.
Artimis said:
Ok, so I decided to tinker a little and the app I mentioned did not work.....neither did some of the modifications I made to to the audio.conf file.
However, I did download this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=es.qrr.android.btoolkit
In the app settings, I enabled experimental mode and was able to find the HBS-730 headset and pair with it. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to go any further than that. Even though it is paired, music wasn't routing to it (granted I didn't use the stock music player -- that may have worked).
I believe the actv is treating the HBS-730 like a phone, tablet, or comp rather than just a headset which is why it is not interacting directly with it. There may be another app with root privileges (like the original app I suggested) that could possibly route the audio correctly but I haven't had the time to tinker with it and don't typically need audio output from my actv anyway.
Hope this somewhat helps.
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I had similiar problems pairing my motoactv with a pair of UE 9000's. It could see the device, but would not pair through the stock menus. Tried downloading some third party bluetooth managers and was unable to get any audio. I believe it has something to do with Apt-X codec for bluetooth not being implemented in 2.3 gingberbread on the motoactv
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However, I did download this app:
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Here's where I lose all credibility (and help)...
You mean download the app to my ACTV, right? So... How do I do that?
How do I download 3rd party apps to the ACTV? I haven't modded mine at all. Do I need to do anything to it?
I realize I have just exposed myself as a NOOB. Alas, I had no choice. Please continue to speak to me.
davidam091 said:
Here's where I lose all credibility (and help)...
You mean download the app to my ACTV, right? So... How do I do that?
How do I download 3rd party apps to the ACTV? I haven't modded mine at all. Do I need to do anything to it?
I realize I have just exposed myself as a NOOB. Alas, I had no choice. Please continue to speak to me.
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No worries .
Yes, you'll need to download the app to the ACTV. It will require rooting of the device and installing a custom ROM is the best way to get everything necessary for the market to work so that you can install these apps.
There is a step-by-step tutorial in the MOTOActv rooting thread in this forum.
Any further updates?
Just curious to see how this solution worked out. I am having the same problem and am definitely a NOOB. Attempting to download an app to my Motoactv seem a bit daunting to me...

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