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voice command/mic/headphone bug

i have my 8125 hooked up to my car speaker system through the headset jack. the other day i discovered something by accident. i could hear the call through my speakers (which i already knew) but they could also hear me through my mic.
i tried it again and it didn't work. a week later i tried it again and it did work. i realized what i was doing that was different was using the voice command button while my car was connected to the headset. voila. voice command will function and my next call can hear me through the phone mic.
this makes for a great speakerphone. the cool thing is no one has ever complained that they hear an echo of themselves even when the audio is up high. try it out and let me know.

I have also been using my k-jam to listen to music in the car. i have connected the device to an FM-modulator using the headset socket and a mini stereo headset jack. At the same time I have also my BT-handsfree active.
I have a choice of either using the BT-handsfree for privacy (the BT-hansfree mic is used) OR the car stereo as a speaker phone when alone or if i need all passengers to converse (as the phone mic is used).
When a call comes I press the answer button on the phone the BT-Handsfree is de-activated. Press the BT-handsfree answer button and all calls are diverted to BT-handsfree and cannot be heard on the car speakers. The best part is that the music stops and resumes automatically in the windows media player.
Try it and have a Safe Drive.

i do that too. but i'm notorious for not charging my bluetooth headset

Speakerphone when 3.5mm jacked in?

Is there any way to get the speaker phone active when 3.5mm audio jack is connected? I use an FMtransmitter connected to the 3.5mm to get the sound out in my car speakers, works fine with music and tomtom sound... but when i get a phone call i would like to answer with speaker phone preferable with the sound still from my car speakers, but with the phone mic activated.
It seams like the phone mic is deactivated when 3.5mm is connected.
/ToKeN

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Is there any way to get the speaker phone active when 3.5mm audio jack is connected?
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I don't know the answer to that specific question, but...
I have a very similar set up to you (though the 3.5mm jack runs directly to my car stereo), using PocketMusic and TomTom.
The in-built mic is active in this case - If I get an incoming call, or make an outgoing call, the audio out is routed through my car stereo (i.e. I hear the other person over the car speakers). The mic still picks up my voice and I can have a conversion. I'm using a regular 3.5mm->double RCA lead (i.e. there is no mic present on the audio jack).

Handsfree calls using headphone jack + internal microphone

One of the features I miss of my Hero that my Nokia N95-8GB had was the ability to plug in a standard pair of headphones (or 3.5mm audio out cable) and use the built in microphone to make hands free calls.
I use the phone a lot in my car whilst driving to and from work to listen to music and would love for it to recognise the standard cable (which it does - indicated by a pair of headphones rather than the headphones/mic icon used to indicate the presence of the hands-free headphones) and be able to automatically answer inbound calls using the internal microphone.
Is there an app for this kind of thing - I'm guessing it is something that is/can be controlled by software?

have you tried it actually? because i use my ipod headphones quite often and it works as expected, sound from headphones and i hold phone closely to my mouth as its using internal mic.

Really not sure what you are looking for. If you plug the standard HTC headphones in using the jack on the top then you can use of the built in mike they have to answer calls.
Or have I missed something?

I've also done exactly what you're asking with my car. I've had my phone in a car holder w/ an audio cable from the Hero's headphone jack to my car's line in jack. I was able to answer calls just fine, and the person on the other end could hear me. (And it was just a standard stereo audio cable, my car doesn't have any sort of built in mic)

bjg222 said:
I've also done exactly what you're asking with my car. I've had my phone in a car holder w/ an audio cable from the Hero's headphone jack to my car's line in jack. I was able to answer calls just fine, and the person on the other end could hear me. (And it was just a standard stereo audio cable, my car doesn't have any sort of built in mic)
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im doing the same thing but people on the other end are complaining about an echo of thir voice. I figure its coming from thier voice being picked up by the internal mic. Anybody have any ideas? how can i cut the internal mic while theyare talking. would a cheap wired headset work using its external mic? i could cut the headphones off and splice it into the line in.

I have had my G2 since late September and quickly found out by accident that it does use the internal mic when a headphone is plugged in.
Mine is a simple adaptor from the 3.5 mm into the RCA in my car. If I have the volume up too high, it echoes. If I have the volume down low, I can have a perfect handsfree conversation.
With the headphones I have had problems. In the car, I have the phone laying down and the mic side up. If I am holding the phone in my hand, I have no problems. Shirt pocket, ok. Pants pocket, no way.

[Q] an issue with the speakphone microphone while connecting headphones on omnia 2

Hi friends,
I would realy like some help for an issue that i have with my omnia 2..
ok, so basically i was making a setup in my car so i could listen to music
by connecting a 3.5 male to male cable (which i've made myself so it would be as short as i need it to be) to the AUX input in my car stereo system.
The music sounds sweet.
I also liked the fact that i could hear the person i was talking to on my car's stereo system, and obviously the music stops when you get a call so it's very nice..
now I know that the omnia 2 has 2 microphones (which is amazing!)
one for a regular conversation, and another one which is way more sensitive
for the use while you're using it as a speakerphone.
The problem is:
when i connect the 3.5 plug in the phone it lets me select:
1. Headphones
2. Headset
3. TV-out
when i select either of 1 or 2, the phone uses the regular mic and not the speaker mic.
i can hear the sound of my speakers in the car
(or maybe i will even hear it the same with headphones)
but i can't have the other side hear me as well as he will with the speaker phone.
I know it uses the regular mic because when i disconnect the 3.5 plug from the phone and put it on speaker, the other side hears me much much better.
(phone and me stay at the same place at the entire test)
my question is:
is there anyway to change (perhaps in the registry?) something
for the phone to use the speaker mic while anything is connected to it's 3.5 jack?
any help will be much much much appreciated.
Thanks a lot!
Roy.

Are you sure the mic doesn't work when you select "headphones"? When I use it like you do in the car, it works perfectly. In fact, I was pleasantly surprised it did, as opposed to Omnia I.
"Headset" means the original headphones with the mic on the cord, while "headphones" means regular headphones, and then it automatically uses the built-in mic.
If it doesn't work like this, take it to the service if you're still within the warranty.

How does MyTouch 4G deal with headphones with no mic and how to favour bluetooth?

Hi,
I've been using the Car Dock Home v3 app launched from HTC's car dock when I'm driving. Yesterday I was also listening to some podcasts form the phone by connecting the headphone jack to my car's aux input. I had a bluetooth headset connected.
Then someone decided to call me and it was disastrous. The car mode causes the phone to read the incoming phone number and let you answer or decline by voice, which is neat, but instead of going through the car's speaker (headphone out) it goes through the built in speaker. I don't know why it would do this, but with the car noise it was impossible to hear it.
Then after answering the call, instead of going through the bluetooth headset, I heard the caller through the car's speakers (sounded great) but they couldn't hear me at all. I can switch to the bluetooth headset manually, but it's too dangerous to try and navigate the tiny buttons and text while driving. With another caller they could hear me, though.
So I can't figure out what the phone is doing when you have something plugged into the headphone jack but no wired mic. It seems like the phone's microphone is active, but not in speakerphone mode, so it's probably too quiet on the other end to clearly hear me unless I talk right into the mic, which I can't do while driving.
So questions:
1. Is there any way to increase the internal mic gain to use the phone connected to the car speakers as a true speakerphone (and can this be done without creating echo/feedback)?
2. Is there any way to have the phone automatically prioritize a connected bluetooth device over the headphone jack?
3. If the answers to 1. and 2. are no, is there any way to have a car mode specific dialer screen with nice big buttons for selecting audio source manually?
4. Can I get the car mode to read incoming call info into the headphone jack rather than the internal speaker?
Thanks!

Key action you must take when your phone rings...
DON'T touch the screen. Click your BT device to answer.
HTC Glacier CM7 #something

jggimi said:
Key action you must take when your phone rings...
DON'T touch the screen. Click your BT device to answer.
HTC Glacier CM7 #something
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Are you sure that works? I didn't try that, but I used my bluetooth headset to launch genius and dial a contact by voice. Everything worked through the bluetooth headset, but once the call connected, it switched to the car's speakers.

I'm pretty sure that the car mode initiates hands-free mode, which automatically turns on the phones internal speaker when a call comes in. See if there's a setting that prevents hands-free from turning on in the app. That might fix things the way you use them.
Sent from my HTC Glacier

While the phone is ringing, activate the connection via BT. It works for me now, and it worked on the stock ROM. But you don't ned to take my word for it, just try it.
HTC Glacier CM7 #something

I'll give that I try when I get a chance. There is an option to automatically enable speakerphone in the car dock app, so maybe disabling that will also fix the problem. However, so long as the headphone jack isn't in use, it works exactly like I want it to:
If the bluetooth headset is connected, it gets used for answering and making calls. If the bluetooth headset is not connected, when answering or making calls the phone's spakerphone is automatically enabled.
The issue is that with the headphone jack in use, it seems to take precedence over both internal speakerphone and bluetooth headset.
My guess is that if the headphone jack is in use the phone assumes that you're using a wired headphone/headset with its own mic. If that were the case, the behaviour actually makes sense: if you've got a wired headset in your ears, that's where you'd want the audio to go. I suppose if there is no external mic but you're wearing headphones, using the internal mic without speakerphone gain also may make sense: you'd hear through the headphones and hold the mic near your mouth to talk. The problem is it ignores the case of external speakers versus headphones. Especially in car mode it should be smarter about how it deals with these options. Of course, some of the issue may be due to the third party dock app, so maybe I'll have to try with that disabled or contact the developer to see if he can do anything.
It's little usability issues like this that make me want to drop Android, although I have no idea if there's actually anything that really works better.

tmagritte said:
...It's little usability issues like this that make me want to drop Android.....
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Training yourself to touch the earpiece instead of the phone to answer is not overly difficult. It only took me one or two "oops" experiences to stop touching the phone.

I use the phone and aux input all the time while driving, but the difference is that I don't have a bluetooth headset involved.
Audio comes out of the headphone jack and I speak into the phone's mic and it works fine. Turn the phone volume to max and use the headunit volume to adjust.

So I have had a chance to test it. It's true, if you use the bluetooth headset's button to answer a call it does get properly routed to the headset. If you answer by taping answer on the screen it gets routed the headphone/speaker + internal mic.
It does also seem like the internal mic is used correctly and pretty much sounds as good as the speaker phone mode, so answering a call while wearing headphones or using speakers doesn't seem like it should be a problem (assuming echo isn't an issue with speakers). Don't know why that one caller couldn't hear me, but that could be some other reason.
What doesn't work, though, is initiating a call from the bluetooth headset if the headphone jack is in use. Using the bluetooth headset button to initiate genius voice dialing works as expected until the call is connected, at which pint it then gets routed to the headphone/mic instead of the bluetooth headset. There doesn't seem to be any way around this. Of course, since you are initiating the call, it's probably not too bad to just unplug the headphone jack first...