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Swipe Lock & Pattern Lock

Normally I use Widget Locker, so I'm not sure how this all works...
I've set a pattern which comes on if the phone is off for 3 minutes. When that happens, first I have to swipe down and then also put the pattern in.
Can it not be set to one or the other? Simple down swipe if before 3 mins, just the pattern if longer than 3 minutes?
I've looked through options but I can't see any way to set it this way

Same problem here, my samsung galaxy s doesn't have this double lock issue

Yeah, me too.
I mentioned it to HTC Support, they said they'd pass on the feedback.
If they get enough comments they might do something about it!?
http://www.htc.com/uk/CS_Mail.aspx

If you enable the pattern lock, you need to go through with 2 locks...this is the way it has been since 1.6. If you disable the pattern lock, its just the Swipe all the way.
looks like the Swype will stay ON whatever you do.

v6kgang said:
If you enable the pattern lock, you need to go through with 2 locks...this is the way it has been since 1.6.
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Nope, not on standard Android. On the N1 you press the power button and get the pattern lock.
Maybe it's always been like that on HTC Sense... not necessary though.

[Q] Keyboard/Lock Screen not working with tasker?

Basically I just want to use Tasker to turn on a PIN lock when I'm not connected to my home wifi. I've tried it multiple ways - using the keyguard on/off built into tasker, using the secure settings plugin, etc. I can't get it to work. Is there something I'm missing here? Does the Nexus 7 have problems with this function? Any tips would be appreciated, thanks!

rm79 said:
Basically I just want to use Tasker to turn on a PIN lock when I'm not connected to my home wifi. I've tried it multiple ways - using the keyguard on/off built into tasker, using the secure settings plugin, etc. I can't get it to work. Is there something I'm missing here? Does the Nexus 7 have problems with this function? Any tips would be appreciated, thanks!
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I am having the same issue, did you ever find a solution for this?

PthPndr said:
I am having the same issue, did you ever find a solution for this?
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It turns out that Android is no longer allowing applications to lock / unlock screen, this is a security feature (even Tasker has this info somewhere in the documentation). The way Tasker currently turns off the screen lock is by some messy work around. The closest I got to having this feature working on ICS and later on JB 4.1.1 was that it was working as expected most of the time, but whenever the screen lock was switched off by Tasker and I clicked on any notification in the notification bar, the screen would get locked and keep locking itself from then on. This is really annoying and makes this feature pretty messy and useless. So I finally resolved to setting the phone to lock automatically after a long period (eg. 30 mins), which is good enough when I'm at home. That way the chances are that if I forget to lock the phone and loose it, it will lock itself after 30 mins. I also created a shortcut on the screen (using Secure Settings plugin) to lock the phone manually whenever I remember about locking it. I doubt there is currently a better way of doing that.

[Q] Smart Lock enabled but temperamental in Lollipop / N910FXXU1BOC3

So after a bit of digging around and research, I managed to find and enable Smart Lock. For those of you who didn't know, it's hidden under Security > Trust Agents. After you've enabled, a new 'Smart Lock' menu appears at the bottom of the Security settings menu where you can manage your Smartlock features. Interestingly, it also features the new 'on-body detection'.
So I set it up about 3 days ago but it doesn't always work for me and I'm questioning if it works at all. My lock screen is set to re-enable after 10 minutes of inactivity so it may just be that I logged in during this time and thought that it may be working. I have 3 differen't ways of using smart lock, all of which are enabled: 1= Bluetooth devices including my Moto 360 which is always connected 2=Location, my home address and 3=On-body detection.
But yeah, as I say, it doesn't seem to be working as 90% of the time, I still have to enter my pin to access my phone. Anyone else tried this or willing to test it out? I'm running the first N910FXXU1BOC3 release from Netherlands/Samsung Experience stock.

bumpy - Anyone!?

Went out of the country and decided to try it out, was working great, but here and there I noticed that the phone gets unlocked in the pocket on second day of using this feature, my pictures and music folder has been deleted, I suspect that it happened accidentally in the pocket... Don't have any other explanation. I would avoid this feature while traveling or if you have to pull out phone quite often.

I'm also having the same issue, mine doesn't work when using Smart lock with my Moto 360, it keeps asking for my finger print to unlock...

I have used On-Body Detection and I can say that it worked great from my point of view. One thing to mention, i don't keep my phone in the pocket of my pants, always pocket of my jacket so did not have any issues with unlocking by itself and performing random operations.
But on BOC3 i did notice that the phone was constantly awake and one of the things i tried was disabling on-body detection i can see now that the wakelock issue was resolved and i'm getting a estimated 3 Days left on 80% battery. From my point of view this is more important that unlocking the phone easier
And regarding the trusted devices part and pairing with a smartwatch, i don't see the security benefit of that as the Bluetooth range is quite big. From a security point of view, trusted devices based on a Bluetooth link is not a good idea.

Its not working at all for me with 'Trusted Devices' - I use my Motorola 360 as a trusted device and it all confirms its set up. The only change it actually makes though is that when I wake up my phone, I have to swipe up to access my pin entry screen. Whereas if I disable smart lock, I get straight to the pin entry screen! This was a completely clean flash of BOC5 (Lux) all data, system, cache, etc was wiped and formatted before install through ODIN.

maverick1103 said:
I'm also having the same issue, mine doesn't work when using Smart lock with my Moto 360, it keeps asking for my finger print to unlock...
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Iggy82 said:
Its not working at all for me with 'Trusted Devices' - I use my Motorola 360 as a trusted device and it all confirms its set up. The only change it actually makes though is that when I wake up my phone, I have to swipe up to access my pin entry screen. Whereas if I disable smart lock, I get straight to the pin entry screen! This was a completely clean flash of BOC5 (Lux) all data, system, cache, etc was wiped and formatted before install through ODIN.
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Are you guys sure that you're using the feature correctly?
Swiping from the little lock icon on the bottom of the screen, brings back your specified secure lockscreen. It is a way to secure your phone again, even if a trusted device or other set conditions for Smart Lock are met.
Swiping from anywhere else on the screen should unlock the phone without any security checks.
Works 100% of the times for me.
Check out this video I made to explain it better:

Smart Lock works awesome on my phone. I have my truck's bluetooth as a trusted device and I set up my home as a trusted location. Both work flawlessly but one thing I had to do was add an additional location for my home along with the preset "Home" location I had set up in Maps a long time ago. It wouldn't work until I manually added the 2nd home location.
It's a great feature.

iridaki said:
Check out this video I made to explain it better:
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Thanks!
It's just not intuitive. I didn't think to swipe outside the lock ring.
Is it possible ty by-pass unlock screen completely, when in "trusted zone"? Without root.
I'm currently using KNOX and have lockscreen disabled.
If I enable lockscreen (to check its features etc), to disable it again I would have to delete my KNOX container.

keekooceeaou said:
Thanks!
It's just not intuitive. I didn't think to swipe outside the lock ring.
Is it possible ty by-pass unlock screen completely, when in "trusted zone"? Without root.
I'm currently using KNOX and have lockscreen disabled.
If I enable lockscreen (to check its features etc), to disable it again I would have to delete my KNOX container.
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I suppose it's a matter of personal preference, I like the idea of being able to quickly secure my screen without, for example, disconnecting my BT earphones. Plus, it's more difficult to aim for the little lock icon than to actually swipe in the middle of the screen.
I am not sure about your question as I don't use the KNOX container, sorry! It sounds though as a security measure that is not possible to bypass. But I could be wrong.

iridaki said:
Are you guys sure that you're using the feature correctly?
Swiping from the little lock icon on the bottom of the screen, brings back your specified secure lockscreen. It is a way to secure your phone again, even if a trusted device or other set conditions for Smart Lock are met.
Swiping from anywhere else on the screen should unlock the phone without any security checks.
Works 100% of the times for me.
Check out this video I made to explain it better:
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Thanks for sharing, I figured it out in the end and forgot to post back with the answer, I couldn't believe I didn't realise it straight away ?

maverick1103 said:
Thanks for sharing, I figured it out in the end and forgot to post back with the answer, I couldn't believe I didn't realise it straight away ?
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Took me a few attempts too, can be confusing at first!

iridaki said:
Took me a few attempts too, can be confusing at first!
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Still it's the one main feature I have been waiting for with lollipop which I'm glad I have now!

iridaki said:
Are you guys sure that you're using the feature correctly?
Swiping from the little lock icon on the bottom of the screen, brings back your specified secure lockscreen. It is a way to secure your phone again, even if a trusted device or other set conditions for Smart Lock are met.
Swiping from anywhere else on the screen should unlock the phone without any security checks.
Works 100% of the times for me.
Check out this video I made to explain it better:
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Brilliant, it does work! It was purely me swiping up from the lock icon like you say! Doesn't seem very intuitive but I'm just glad it's working! I owe you a beer!

Keeps asking for password instead of fingerprint after APD1 update

After I've installed the 220MB update yesterday, the phone keeps asking for password almost every single time I unlock the phone. Even though I've got fingerprint enabled.
Keeps saying enter password according to device security policy.
Anyone else experiencing this?

Do you have a 3rd party launcher, I read somewhere Samsung made a change to what 3rd party apps are allowed to do, if you set something in the launcher that has to do with unlocking the phone this will be the result.

Thanks for the reply?
Yes, I have Smart Launcher Pro.
But is this new to this update? And is there any way to turn it off??

You can not switch it on and off. The only solution is to go back to the default launcher.

I think I found the solution. It uses Device admin rights to turn off screen on double tap. Disabling that seems to fix it.

i have the same issue
Im running stock launcher and i faced this problem as soon as i updated. nothing else is wrong with the phone except this fail to recognise my fingerprint.
After reading the post about launchers i remembered that i have 3 apps that tweak my phone, 'Galaxy buttons Lights', 'Easy Home' & 'All in one Gestures'. I disabled all and enabled each one and found out that 'All in one Gestures' was causing the issue. I had set up the app to have the top and bottom corners to toggle drop down menu and lock phone. These gestures where also active on the lock screen hence i think it was hindering the fingerprint recognition process. I guess the app has to push an update to fix this.

I now have this problem after update, I'm on stock its driving me mad!
Found my problem, its my screen off/lock widget.
I've now just tried 5 others and they all cause this problem, if I close by physical button then I don't get asked for pin on unlock, only if I use the widget does this happen

Same here. Although it's just S7, without the edges... And my password is over 10 characters long! So if anyone finds a true solution, that would be great... Stock launcher.

same with nova launcher, if you are using gesture to lock sreen, it needs pin/password to unlock, fingerprint is not enough...
samsung.. pls ..stahp..

Fingerprint Unlock not enough - OOS 3.0.2 requires pin when locked unconventionally

So I just upgraded to the OOS 3.0.2 MM build, and there's a new issue that's greatly annoying me. If you lock the phone with the power button, the fingerprint scanner will unlock it fine. However, if you lock it with something else (as I do with both shake-to-lock and Nova's lock actions), it will insist on ALSO asking for the pin/pattern unlock once your fingerprint has been scanned.
Anyone find a way to disable this security feature while still having a fingerprint unlock in place? Neither Gravity Box nor the security settings are presenting any obvious options

That's a feature of Android MM, not OOS. It can't be disabled.

baw2607 said:
That's a feature of Android MM, not OOS. It can't be disabled.
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There is no way to disable it? Even rooted? No xposed or system level hack?

It seems to be an error in design of Nova launcher and other solutions. They don't use the correct way of locking the phone hardlocking instead of softlocking, and therefore the phone will ask for pin just as if you restarted your phone.

Artemicion said:
So I just upgraded to the OOS 3.0.2 MM build, and there's a new issue that's greatly annoying me. If you lock the phone with the power button, the fingerprint scanner will unlock it fine. However, if you lock it with something else (as I do with both shake-to-lock and Nova's lock actions), it will insist on ALSO asking for the pin/pattern unlock once your fingerprint has been scanned.
Anyone find a way to disable this security feature while still having a fingerprint unlock in place? Neither Gravity Box nor the security settings are presenting any obvious options
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I had same issue when i used double tap to sleep in nova launcher prime.... i is because it uses device administrator to lock phone! I fixed by using root to lock my mobile....
Long story short you need your application to use root to lock your device!

But what if the shakelock app I use (and love!) doesn't use root....? It's sounding like I'm out of luck here. How have you managed to make Nova use root to lock?

I guess I'm more of an Apex guy, don't fancy Nova launcher even though I bought it a couple of years ago. I just double tap on top part of screen to lock, or press the power button, or let it timeout. For unlocking, I just use fingerprint, no fuss, no asking for code.

I was happy with Nova Launcher (which is currently on sale for $0.99 on the Play store), until I found out that it has a bug in voice searches from the Home Screen's search bar. It annoyed the heck out of me as it kept on complaining "App not installed" when clicking on the little mic. I had to click on the search bar and THEN click on the other mic that appeared, inorder to access voice search. Defeats the purpose of the voice search b/c I use it a lot while driving and I cant be bothered to be clicking through so many hoops. So I switched my homescreen launcher to Google Now Launcher, while keeping everything else Nova Prime.

For anyone interested, I have found a sort-of solution. Using a combo of Xposed Maxlock and Lockscreen Disabler, it's possible to have a lockscreen up that you can dismiss by using the fingerprint sensor. There's a fairly obvious downside in that it doesn't matter what fingerprint hits the sensor, as anything at all unlocks the screen (which is Lockscreen Disabler's function) but it works as a way to use a non-root lock method that still allows you to unlock the screen with just a touch. Until such a time as someone finds a better solution

I'm pretty sure that it's easy to write a simple apk that uses the root method to call the screen off function. Only if someone would write that
Why I tell that - because if You double tap the status bar - the screen locks and You can easily unlock it just with the fingerprint sensor... therefore, that function does exist already in the ROM.

Yeah, I've got the Nova rooted lock function working, so those actions or GravtiyBox stuff like double tap status bar will work and not require pin+fingerprint, but my specific ask is this way to lock the screen by quickly flicking/shaking the phone (which is GREAT and I don't understand what hasn't been included in stock) - none of those seem to use root to lock so this workaround is a way to have that convenient screen off + convenient fingerprint on.