Have anybody figure out a hack to keep the EVO from double compressing recorded videos? Now since we have h.264 why is it still saving videos in 3gp? I once saw this hack in Droid incredible forum. Wondering if this been done on EVO?
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Are you saying that H.264 has better quality than 720p?
goldt said:
Are you saying that H.264 has better quality than 720p?
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He was talking about the compression of the videos, not the resolution..
Even with 720p, the way the Evo compresses the videos make them all look like crap
So the best way to record is still 720p? Video is not very good on this phone.
Yes I'm talking about double compression which make the video crap and sound crap. Instead of it just compressing it once its doing it twice meaning the quality of the video is lessen.it should give you the option to compress in 3gp along with the others. I know dumb phones can't play h.264 only 3gp. If you where to send video mms.
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He was talking about the compression of the videos, not the resolution..
Even with 720p, the way the Evo compresses the videos make them all look like crap
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A fix would be great. I swapped from the iPhone4 to.my evo and the 4 kills video in every way.
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with the x10's huge screen, i'd like to know where i can get high def movie files to put on my sd card.
anyone know?
u cant play high def movies... the highest resolution is 854x480!
oneonezerosix said:
with the x10's huge screen, i'd like to know where i can get high def movie files to put on my sd card.
anyone know?
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thats illegal sir
Even if you buy the blueray disk and reencode them?
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Even if you buy the blueray disk and reencode them?
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he asked for "download"
if you are to encode movie for x10, I think there is no point encoding it more than the screen's res, cuz it will look the same anyway
i didn't say download. look again. but even with a redeem code with dvds and blu rays, the file formats are mpegs
they don't have to be high res. just decent quality so i can enjoy movies on the x10
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i didn't say download. look again. but even with a redeem code with dvds and blu rays, the file formats are mpegs
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nah I was just kidding
I guess hd mp4 from youtube would work, not sure though, I'll try and report back
For encoding, try Handbrake. It works really well using the iPhone preset (just make sure to adjust the video width to 854 pixels).
A Blu-ray rip of an episode of Dexter I have looks amazing.
what is handbrake?
Google it!
http://handbrake.fr/ it's a free Windows app that allows you to re-encode video files.
Anyone try and encode an HD movie on handbrake ?
I convert a 8gb 720P movie, set the bit rate at 1500...The vid took about 8 hours convert, and ended up being 3gb when done...set at 854x480...I also tried designating the output file size to 1.5gb, still took 8 hours...Been using Handbrake for a while now, quite familiar with the "advanced" settings, but taking so damn long to convert 720p movies. Love it none the less...
What site can you get movies for the x10 on?
What site can you get movies for the x10 on?
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... non warez site; )
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Anyone try and encode an HD movie on handbrake ?
I convert a 8gb 720P movie, set the bit rate at 1500...The vid took about 8 hours convert, and ended up being 3gb when done...set at 854x480...I also tried designating the output file size to 1.5gb, still took 8 hours...Been using Handbrake for a while now, quite familiar with the "advanced" settings, but taking so damn long to convert 720p movies. Love it none the less...
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My conversions of BD rips of 1hr TV shows seem to take a bit over 60 minutes each. That's using the iPhone preset with an 854 width setting.
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Anyone try and encode an HD movie on handbrake ?
I convert a 8gb 720P movie, set the bit rate at 1500...The vid took about 8 hours convert, and ended up being 3gb when done...set at 854x480...I also tried designating the output file size to 1.5gb, still took 8 hours...Been using Handbrake for a while now, quite familiar with the "advanced" settings, but taking so damn long to convert 720p movies. Love it none the less...
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i concur, the X10 is capable of 720p playback. I've converted my own AVCHD 720p files and they play perfectly fine on the X10....which is AWESOME.
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i concur, the X10 is capable of 720p playback. I've converted my own AVCHD 720p files and they play perfectly fine on the X10....which is AWESOME.
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Technically, it's not playing 720p. The 720 refers to horizontal lines of resolution, not the vertical lines. 1280x720 is the resolution of 720p.
The X10 is capable of playing what YouTube and other sites call "480p", which is pretty much what DVDs are encoded at.
this is great guys. thanks alot, im going to try to download handbrake and convert my mpeg movie files
i agree, x10 can play some really HQ files though i find little use of it, a "normal" 350mb episode or 700mb movie will do fine when coverted to .mp4
it's a pitty x10 doesn't have TV-out capability...i had X2 and it worked pretty nicely
is there any way that picture from the x10 could be sent over wireless or am i just talking nonsence maybe an app that would show on your PC the screen which is on X10
saltorio said:
Technically, it's not playing 720p. The 720 refers to horizontal lines of resolution, not the vertical lines. 1280x720 is the resolution of 720p.
The X10 is capable of playing what YouTube and other sites call "480p", which is pretty much what DVDs are encoded at.
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This is incorrect. Yes, the X10 is capable of playing 480p, but you make it sound like it can't play anything above that resolution because the screen itself is 480p.
If you play a 720p video on the X10, it will be downscaled to 480p, but the X10 is still decoding the full 720p video which takes quite some horsepower. I used Handbrake to convert a 1080p Youtube trailer to 720p, which the X10 plays, but not without some stutter. Maybe my bitrate setting were a little high and the X10 could play it smoothly on lower encoding settings, but the fact that it plays a perfectly fine quality 720p even with some dropped frames is still pretty impressive.
And no, it's not really usefull to playback any video with a greater resolution that the X10's native screen resolution, but it's fun to play around with IMO. I do wonder if the media player has GPU acceleration. If not, that these results are all the more impressive.
I haven't seen anything one way or another but does anyone know if the Evo will support divx I know HTC has it planned for the desire and Samsung already had it on the galaxy s n the moment. It just makes sense with the hdmi out
It would definitely make sense considering everything. We'll have to wait and see.
The H.264 video codec and mp4 format provides superior video quality, especially on the screen that the Evo uses.
Apple has done 1 thing in their existence that is actually useful.
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The H.264 video codec and mp4 format provides superior video quality, especially on the screen that the Evo uses.
Apple has done 1 thing in their existence that is actually useful.
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If it wasn't for Apple, I don't think Android would be the way it is now.
There is a lot to thank the competition for.
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The H.264 video codec and mp4 format provides superior video quality, especially on the screen that the Evo uses.
Apple has done 1 thing in their existence that is actually useful.
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sure it does better quality, but I really don't want to have to encode all my files from mkv to mp4 just to put them on my phone, i'd rather just play em straight
I don't know about you, but I don't want to copy 15GB movies to my phone. Conversion is really the only way to go.
or just stream them to the device. I'm just not up to date with HD streaming, but normal video streams well.
you'd need nearly a 20mbit connection for that. 15GB/120min/60sec*8
divx plays okay on evo using xyzflash player but looks better and played smoother when I converted to h.264
Does DoubleTwist automatically convert stuff for you?
mrniceguy715 said:
divx plays okay on evo using xyzflash player but looks better and played smoother when I converted to h.264
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I noticed (in another thread) you saying you got to play with one. Do you still have access to it?
yes i do indeed
watzone69 said:
I noticed (in another thread) you saying you got to play with one. Do you still have access to it?
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dump it..dump it!
ehh im a puss. pics and my opinion on programs isnt proprietary and wouldnt risk my job. Ripping the source and uploading it before launch would be.... so im going to chill and be selfish for a good little while.
Slightly off topic, but would you consider recording some video on the Evo camcorder and posting it so we can check it out?
Hi guys, I see a lot of GB roms mentioning YouTubeHD, yet I can't seem to get it to work, I get the HQ button that's always been there, but not 720p, any ideas?
Well, mobile HQ isn't 720p either. I don't see why you would want 720p in the first place, your phone doesn't have that many lines?
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Well, mobile HQ isn't 720p either. I don't see why you would want 720p in the first place, your phone doesn't have that many lines?
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I'm quite aware of both of those things, but it has been mentioned that YouTube works in hd for the HD2 running Gingerbread. And I know from my own testing that a 720p encoded movie looks a lot nicer on the HD2 than a 800x480 encoded movie.
Uhm I haven't heard of any of that, and Google doesn't hint anything in that direction either, I think you're confusing some stuff. A lot of roms support 720p playback, but not in Youtube.
720p in se doesn't look beter than a 480p video by the way, on the contrary. You don't see the lines your screen can't show, and actually this may even result in a slightly worse video because of it.
A well encoded 480p video is at least as good as a 720p video, problem is that a lot 480p conversions suck. But that's not because it's 480p, it's because of the conversion.
That's why I don't think we'll ever have 720p mobile video. It's just wasted bandwidth over a nicely encoded 480p.
Oh, and I think Youtube HD just refers to the revamped app. Not 100% sure though so don't quote me on that.
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Uhm I haven't heard of any of that, and Google doesn't hint anything in that direction either, I think you're confusing some stuff. A lot of roms support 720p playback, but not in Youtube.
720p in se doesn't look beter than a 480p video by the way, on the contrary. You don't see the lines your screen can't show, and actually this may even result in a slightly worse video because of it.
A well encoded 480p video is at least as good as a 720p video, problem is that a lot 480p conversions suck. But that's not because it's 480p, it's because of the conversion.
That's why I don't think we'll ever have 720p mobile video. It's just wasted bandwidth over a nicely encoded 480p.
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Totally 100% agree. There would be more chance of performance issues with a downscaled 720 video on a 480 screen. It DOES NOT look better than a properly encoded 480 video. It is not physically possible for it to look better as your screen cannot show anything more than 480 pixels in each of the 800 columns. End of.
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Oh, and I think Youtube HD just refers to the revamped app. Not 100% sure though so don't quote me on that.
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I'm quoting you
Nah mate - it is the HD functionality in the "recent" update that gives it the name.
Damn Britts!
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Damn Britts!
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some people say it's mp4 with decoded with H.264 and some people say it's wmv. i've tried them both on my evo 4g but still can't figure this out.
have any ideas?
I personally don't see any difference in picture quality other than file size. However, if you plan on using your HDMI cable, I would be more concerned with the resolution size, than the format. That's my 2 cents.
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I read on Android Central a long time ago that MP4 was the extension the EVO liked best. If you need help converting videos, I recommend using Handbrake. After you've downloaded your video file, load it into Handbrake and use these settings to make it EVO-friendly:
In the picture tab, set Anamorphic on None, and adjust the resolution. The EVO can only accept as high as 1280x720. Leave Keep Aspect Ratio checked. This will ensure the video doesn't get squished or is too tall.
Skip Video Filters.
In the Video tab, use MPEG-4(FFmpeg) as your codec. Under Quality, I find it easier to aim for a specific file size than bitrate. The EVO supports HD files up to 2GB, as I've noticed any higher results in lag.
In the Audio tab, choose whatever settings you please for output. You really don't need to change anything here.
And that's it. Any questions feel free to PM me.
Both h.264 and 3gp will give you the same result with this phone. Generally, h264 is a GREAT codec, it's what is used in blu-ray's as it compresses very well and leaves a lot of quality. However, on the evo of course, using h264 limits you to 800x480. Now, switching to 1280x720 would give you a better picture you would think. However, of course you have to use the 3gp codec, which is probably over 10 years old, and is horrible at compressing video. It really wasnt even meant to be used on video, just audio.
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Both h.264 and 3gp will give you the same result with this phone. Generally, h264 is a GREAT codec, it's what is used in blu-ray's as it compresses very well and leaves a lot of quality. However, on the evo of course, using h264 limits you to 800x480. Now, switching to 1280x720 would give you a better picture you would think. However, of course you have to use the 3gp codec, which is probably over 10 years old, and is horrible at compressing video. It really wasnt even meant to be used on video, just audio.
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I agree with you. What I do is convert using Handbrake and select iphone4 preset. Works great on my evo.
x2 on mp4 for a smooth running video, I use iPod or iPhone settings when selecting a conversion.
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I personally don't see any difference in picture quality other than file size. However, if you plan on using your HDMI cable, I would be more concerned with the resolution size, than the format. That's my 2 cents.
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hoho, maybe i'm just over concerning. Actually, i don't see any difference either.
thanks
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I read on Android Central a long time ago that MP4 was the extension the EVO liked best. If you need help converting videos, I recommend using Handbrake. After you've downloaded your video file, load it into Handbrake and use these settings to make it EVO-friendly:
In the picture tab, set Anamorphic on None, and adjust the resolution. The EVO can only accept as high as 1280x720. Leave Keep Aspect Ratio checked. This will ensure the video doesn't get squished or is too tall.
Skip Video Filters.
In the Video tab, use MPEG-4(FFmpeg) as your codec. Under Quality, I find it easier to aim for a specific file size than bitrate. The EVO supports HD files up to 2GB, as I've noticed any higher results in lag.
In the Audio tab, choose whatever settings you please for output. You really don't need to change anything here.
And that's it. Any questions feel free to PM me.
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yeah, i agree
actually i have always been using mp4 instead of wmv, i just thought i might be wrong. so thanks o lot
BTW, i use my own video converter - Leawo video converter. i think it's better for me
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Both h.264 and 3gp will give you the same result with this phone. Generally, h264 is a GREAT codec, it's what is used in blu-ray's as it compresses very well and leaves a lot of quality. However, on the evo of course, using h264 limits you to 800x480. Now, switching to 1280x720 would give you a better picture you would think. However, of course you have to use the 3gp codec, which is probably over 10 years old, and is horrible at compressing video. It really wasnt even meant to be used on video, just audio.
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So.. you mean 3pg is a better choice on this phone rather than h.264 ?
So.. you mean 3pg is a better choice on this phone rather than h.264 ?
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Re-read the first sentence in my post...
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I agree with you. What I do is convert using Handbrake and select iphone4 preset. Works great on my evo.
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Thanks works no more freezing.
I used Handbrake to convert a 1080p video to baseline.. I have a couple q's:
If ever ripping/downloading a video, should I just get it in 720p or is there a big quality difference between 720p and 1080p baseline?
Is there a big quality loss between regular 1080p and baseline? Or is it just the way it's encoded?
Is there a way to get handbrake to save the configuration?
Thanks! This is my first tablet, I love it!
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If ever ripping/downloading a video, should I just get it in 720p or is there a big quality difference between 720p and 1080p baseline?
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You should definitely get high-profile 720p instead of 1080p baseline one: especially in high-motion scenes you'll quickly notice blocking artifacts from the compression. Also 720p high-profile takes a lot less storage space.
Also do notice that the tablet screen is only 720p.
Is there a big quality loss between regular 1080p and baseline? Or is it just the way it's encoded?
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Yes, there is a noticeable quality-loss. You could in theory encode a baseline-one so that the quality is the same as on normal- or baseline-profile one, but you'd end up with a 15 gigabyte file.
Is there a way to get handbrake to save the configuration?
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Save it as a profile or grab one of my profiles from the sticky thread.
Wow, thank you so much, that answered all of my questions. I'll go for 720p from now on.
I just noticed an error in my post "If I ever ripping/downloading a video".. I meant "If I'm ever ripping/downloading a video".. lol.