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I am so proud of Sony Ericsson.
You know... Half of the company is from Sweden, where I live!!!
I just updated the phone to the new firmware. And I am almost shivering from proudness.
In ONLY FOUR MONTHS Sony Ericsson managed to make the Opera browser the default web browser on the phone. I can't believe how incredibly good they are!!!
I haven't notice anything else though, but oh my god... Isn't this more than enough to accomplish in ONLY FOUR MONTHS?
Anyone complaining on Sony Ericssson have to answer before me. I absolutely adore them. They are unbelievably good.
Anyone... Please don't tell me they managed to do anything else. I don't think I could take it. Making Opera the default browser almost made me faint. If you say something else was fixed too, I think I will die.
/Michael
Rodin69 said:
I am so proud of Sony Ericsson.
You know... Half of the company is from Sweden, where I live!!!
I just updated the phone to the new firmware. And I am almost shivering from proudness.
In ONLY FOUR MONTHS Sony Ericsson managed to make the Opera browser the default web browser on the phone. I can't believe how incredibly good they are!!!
I haven't notice anything else though, but oh my god... Isn't this more than enough to accomplish in ONLY FOUR MONTHS?
Anyone complaining on Sony Ericssson have to answer before me. I absolutely adore them. They are unbelievably good.
Anyone... Please don't tell me they managed to do anything else. I don't think I could take it. Making Opera the default browser almost made me faint. If you say something else was fixed too, I think I will die.
/Michael
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Cynic enough???
Here's what has changed:
Here are some things that have been noticed so far with this update.
The device now boots faster.
Faster menus - switching tabs in settings is quicker.
Programs launch quicker and file explorer is quick in loading folders.
The Vodafone ROM update (not sure if others have this) includes a couple of other additional trial games including Bubble Bash, Block Breaker Deluxe, and Tetris Mania.
Bluetooth Problem reported to be fixed. (I didn’t face any bluetooth problems with the old software and am not facing any now.)
Wi-Fi bug fixed.
Panel animation is a bit smoother but still laggy on switching from portrait to landscape and vice versa. Overall a faster panels experience.
Video playback has improved a lot! CP benchmark on a video resulted in 90-92% on the old ROM and is now increased to 98%.
Word prediction in most text-boxes.
Media Panel improvements including; music indexing is a lot faster, image scrolling is almost as smooth as it should be, changing tracks show information about the track at the bottom of the screen, and most importantly it now only shows pictures from the My Pictures and Camera folders on the main and internal storage – say goodbye to all those images from program files and windows showing up.
Camera improvements include faster focus lock and more stable focus. Preview is also smoother and introduces a new setting letting you define the frame rate to use for the video to shoot.
Furthermore, I think they updated the 3D drivers too. TouchFlo 3D is running way smooth - especially the Pictures and Media tabs! (flicking through pictures and music is quick and smooth) + Slide2Play is performing much better with this new updated ROM; quicker and smoother movement in landscape, switches album/song images correctly on song change, and so on.
http://xperiancer.blogspot.com/2009/01/xperia-software-update.html
initially when i just flashed the new firmware it was noticeably faster. boots faster and faster file system. used to take 8 secs to open /windows folder and after flash took just 2 secs!
but now after reinstalling my apps, the file system speed has decreased back to that of the old firmware. still boots faster tho.
i have reported that my x1 is very fast but i dont have new firmware installed yet..
i want to ask you how to install the new ROM? i got the new ROM from the pavel and download it in rapid share.
msalmank said:
Cynic enough???
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I'm not sure I am able to be cynic enough. But I sure tried.
msalmank said:
The device now boots faster.
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According to some, maybe. For me it booted in about 55 seconds before, and so it does now.
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Faster menus - switching tabs in settings is quicker.
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It might be. I don't see the difference though, but that might be becuase it doesn't matter much to me. There are other things more important.
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Programs launch quicker and file explorer is quick in loading folders.
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Yes, I agree. Loading the Windows Folder seems a lot faster. But still, that isn't something the average user does several times a day.
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The Vodafone ROM update (not sure if others have this) includes a couple of other additional trial games including Bubble Bash, Block Breaker Deluxe, and Tetris Mania.
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I actually have no clue.
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Bluetooth Problem reported to be fixed. (I didn’t face any bluetooth problems with the old software and am not facing any now.)
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Maybe, maybe not. I've seen reports saying there is no difference in this area. I haven't tried it myself yet, so I can't tell.
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Wi-Fi bug fixed.
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I never notice that one myself. So I can't say it's better or worse.
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Panel animation is a bit smoother but still laggy on switching from portrait to landscape and vice versa. Overall a faster panels experience.
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According to some users maybe. I can't say I see any difference at all.
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Video playback has improved a lot! CP benchmark on a video resulted in 90-92% on the old ROM and is now increased to 98%.
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Well... 90-92% up to 98% isn't really A LOT. I've tried two WMV videos though and think they might have been a bit more fluid than before. But as far as I can tell the difference is not that incredible.
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Word prediction in most text-boxes.
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If this is the case, that's good. I haven't seen it yet.
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Media Panel improvements including; music indexing is a lot faster, image scrolling is almost as smooth as it should be, changing tracks show information about the track at the bottom of the screen, and most importantly it now only shows pictures from the My Pictures and Camera folders on the main and internal storage – say goodbye to all those images from program files and windows showing up.
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Well, that was a really good improvement. I still would have liked to be able to chose folders for images myself, but this was a step in the right direction.
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Camera improvements include faster focus lock and more stable focus. Preview is also smoother and introduces a new setting letting you define the frame rate to use for the video to shoot.
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I see the framrate option. But I can't confirm it really works. As a matter of fact, I even don't know what to expect. I didn't get 30 fps before, and I'm sceptic I will get it now. But of course I may be wrong here.
As for preview and faster focus lock, I can't tell the difference from before. For me it's about the same.
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Furthermore, I think they updated the 3D drivers too. TouchFlo 3D is running way smooth - especially the Pictures and Media tabs! (flicking through pictures and music is quick and smooth) + Slide2Play is performing much better with this new updated ROM; quicker and smoother movement in landscape, switches album/song images correctly on song change, and so on.
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Again, I can't tell the difference. I doubt Sony Ericsson had in mind that you should use TF3D. So the possbible improvements in using TF3D is irrelevelant to me. Maybe it's faster for other applications using 3D, but I haven't tried them yet and thus can't tell.
One of the most annoying bugs is not fixed.
That does not apply to you using english keyboard. But for me, using the swedish letters Å, Ä and Ö it does.
Those keys seems to be implemented after all "normal" keys. So where all other keys seems to get into a keyboard buffer when you type them, the special swedish characters are written immediately to the screen. That means when I write a swedish sentence that should look like "Jag ska försöka träffa dig innan mötet." instead looks lite "Jag skaö fröska ätrffa dig innaön mtet."
That is, in my opinion a HUGE bug, which they should have focused on before doing anything else.
Regards,
Michael
@Michael, did you bother to tell them about your HUGE bug?
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@Michael, did you bother to tell them about your HUGE bug?
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Yes of course I did. October 24 I mailed them about this problem.
Should have been enough time for anyone with some competence to fix it.
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As a matter of fact I've mailed SE 24-25 mails on different matters on the phone. Most of them might be specific to the operating system which SE has no control over, but for me as a customer that really doesn't matter. But the response I've got was just that, freely translated from swedish: "SE has no direct control over the issues since that is a Windows Mobile specific matter".
They even told me that about the Radio Panel.
Do you understand why I am a bit upset?
I like the phone even though it still has some issues, but I really can't stand Sony Ericssons ignorance.
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Here are some things that have been noticed so far with this update.
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Oh, and by the way...
Why should people even have to "notice" differences between firmwares?
We should be informed about the changes without having to guess what's fixed, and what's not.
It is our equipment, and it's our time and efforts we put in it to try to see if we get any improvments. We shouldn't have to do that. SE should give us information on what is done so we could decide for ourselves if the update might be needed or not.
/Michael
wow..
yes it's annoying.
no you don't get better help when sending 25 emails in a few months.
welcome to the world of consumer electronics!
Why do you think that the iphone doesn't have a copy/paste function after the product has been on the market for 2+ years?
they don't give a **** .. you paid already
I think some ppl here have fixed some issues regarding swedish key press's.
not sure but try to search.. have seen some stuff come by.. but I don't need it so forgot where.
good luck
Just tried to update on the SEUS (sony ericsson) and it didn't work. Said It was already up to date. When I check my rom version it is NOT the new version
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Oh, and by the way...
Why should people even have to "notice" differences between firmwares?
We should be informed about the changes without having to guess what's fixed, and what's not.
It is our equipment, and it's our time and efforts we put in it to try to see if we get any improvments. We shouldn't have to do that. SE should give us information on what is done so we could decide for ourselves if the update might be needed or not.
/Michael
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I agree 100% to that.
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I'm not sure I am able to be cynic enough. But I sure tried.
According to some, maybe. For me it booted in about 55 seconds before, and so it does now.
It might be. I don't see the difference though, but that might be becuase it doesn't matter much to me. There are other things more important.
Yes, I agree. Loading the Windows Folder seems a lot faster. But still, that isn't something the average user does several times a day.
I actually have no clue.
Maybe, maybe not. I've seen reports saying there is no difference in this area. I haven't tried it myself yet, so I can't tell.
I never notice that one myself. So I can't say it's better or worse.
According to some users maybe. I can't say I see any difference at all.
Well... 90-92% up to 98% isn't really A LOT. I've tried two WMV videos though and think they might have been a bit more fluid than before. But as far as I can tell the difference is not that incredible.
If this is the case, that's good. I haven't seen it yet.
Well, that was a really good improvement. I still would have liked to be able to chose folders for images myself, but this was a step in the right direction.
I see the framrate option. But I can't confirm it really works. As a matter of fact, I even don't know what to expect. I didn't get 30 fps before, and I'm sceptic I will get it now. But of course I may be wrong here.
As for preview and faster focus lock, I can't tell the difference from before. For me it's about the same.
Again, I can't tell the difference. I doubt Sony Ericsson had in mind that you should use TF3D. So the possbible improvements in using TF3D is irrelevelant to me. Maybe it's faster for other applications using 3D, but I haven't tried them yet and thus can't tell.
Regards,
Michael
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As for the biggest BUG you are facing, i can't say much about that - since it doesn't realy apply to me, as you too pointed out. But maybe you should try flashing on a non-Swedish ROM and see how that goes? For definitely all the points i highlighted are pretty much what i saw - with both the Vodafone as well as the Generic UK ROMs.
FYI - when i say that they probably updated the 3D drivers... i'm not just talking about TF3D (i use that as an example 'coz it was usually buggy before this firmware), but games are actually running as they should have done before. No glitches or problems with Atomic Cannon, Archibald's Adventures, and more games that faced usual lags or slowed down a bit in menus or something like that. Furthermore, Slide2Play is also working way better with this updated firmware.
the framerate option on the camera is great and actually works. The media panel has been improved a lot! The bluetooh and wifi issues have definitely been fixed... and the device startup time has been improved too, way quicker now.
55 Seconds?!?!?! - i barely got that with my old firmware! Maybe it is the Swedish ROM? Definitely try out the Generic UK or Vodafone UK ROM for a few days...
Best Regards.
Started a poll here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478859
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55 Seconds?!?!?! - i barely got that with my old firmware! Maybe it is the Swedish ROM? Definitely try out the Generic UK or Vodafone UK ROM for a few days...
Best Regards.
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I use the Swedish updated ROM, and I, as other swedes with updated phones I've talked to, don't feel any improvements with the new ROM. In fact, the phone seems to be slower when using SPB Mobile Shell: When clicking programs, it takes some time before the icons appear. Same time when sliding into the second page of programs. I didn't have this lag before updating...
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I use the Swedish updated ROM, and I, as other swedes with updated phones I've talked to, don't feel any improvements with the new ROM. In fact, the phone seems to be slower when using SPB Mobile Shell: When clicking programs, it takes some time before the icons appear. Same time when sliding into the second page of programs. I didn't have this lag before updating...
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Hmmm... definitely try out some other version, like perhaps the Generic UK ROM. See if you face same issues with that one...
Alright I have thought about making this post and after making an intense review of the latest issues users are reporting I believe now its the time.
So after 13 days of using the Xperia i have suffered from:
Extreme battery flush even in standby.(I use Task Panel lite to auto-kill apps not needed and still get surprises...)
1.6 Android compatibility issues with latest 2.1 programs.
Snapdragon processor that cant stand lagging on Timescape and Mediascape
Phone calls not heard correctly on the other side of the line.
No fre GPS support like TOMTOM or similar even do the chip is there.
Multitouch debates.
No root as of today...(yes i know no one promised...)
...and many other issues users are experimenting on their devices that really aint freaking cool.
So the dilemma is... Is it really worth all the headaches?
I mean very few have gone clean without any issues but many others have problems from the moment the Xperia pops its head out of the box.
I am starting to feel like it was a major mistake to trade in my HD2 for this so new stylish and hot piece of s*** that is begging for major concerning updates on behalf of SE. Maybe something spectacular might happen on its own that will make my 489€ phone work like it should, but as the days go by I see that if it aint one thing is another involved in the issues evolving the super dupper Xperia X10 that had promised to be the next best thing since sliced bread, but turns out its looking more like an overtoasted slice to me...
How do you people feel about this ?
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How do you people feel about this ?
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Simply put, I feel it's a spectacular phone Timescape and Mediascape need some work, but otherwise I have zero issues and I'm enjoying this phone ALOT.
Many of those are not major issues and are really the result of someone complaining. I mean 2.1 applications dont work properly with 1.6? Really? I find the phone fast and the battery great. I and many of my friend who have iphones were immediately impressed with the speed of this phone. Do you have a ton of applications constantly updating? My phone easily lasts all day long on one charge with heavy use and thats all you can ask from a smartphone. An Iphone barely lasts 10 hours for me. Couldnt tell you it didnt have multitouch because I do not miss it, or even care about it.
I am actually ecstatic with this phone. It has exceeded my expectations.
Headaches, really? I don't know what the complains are. SE told everyone that it is being shipped with 1.6. I have been using 1.6 with the HTC Magic and I knew exactly what to expect.
Battery? Read about others phones. It is the same complain all over. I remember when I had the Nokia N95 and that was the first complain out of the box. Just be patient and wait a couple of weeks to see if there is a trend.
Root? No one promised you that the phone will be rooted. Root is at the mercy of whoever is interested in tinkering with the phone.
Multitouch? Over-rated. Never liked it eventhough my HTC Magic has it with the Amon_Ra rom. I prefer using the +/-.
In the end, it is a matter of expectations. There is nothing really wrong with the phone, as promised by SE.
With complete honesty I can say that after two weeks of using the X10 I am finding little to complain about.
Battery life has improved and I can use it heavily for a full days work without problem.
Lots of reviews before release complained of lag, but I really have seen no lag on this phone, I am not currently using a task killer as I believe it does more harm than good.
My only 'customizations' have been to load the HTC keyboard and use K9 for email (I needed push!). Other than that I really think it is the best phone I have had.
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Yes, even with all the quirks, battery problem, unironed Mediascape (managing Playlist), X10 is my best phone yet. Can't wait for all of those stuff to be ironed out.
I had a HTC HD2 previously, was one of the first to own one. Now THAT was a phone with serious issues, pink camera pictures, sms messages stuck in outbox were the two biggest.
This Xperia X10 is a fantastic phone in comparison, I can't put my finger on what it is, maybe its the android OS, I don't know but I love it.
Issues for me inlude
Battery drainage, which I'm starting to be quite thankful for in a weird kind of way. Because it runs down by the early evening, I'm chargin g it every night, so it is always fully charged the next day
Lack of camera automatic flash is a pain.
Call volume is low.
The butons whilst making a call are odd. There are no call and reject hard keys which I find annoying.
I turned TimeScape off straight away as it was a waste.
Everything else is prety perfect for me, even the older Android OS.
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No fre GPS support like TOMTOM or similar even do the chip is there.
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What did I miss? Since when is Tomtom free? There are enough GPS packages out there:
-iGo/MotoNav
-CoPilot
-Sygic
-etc etc
You choose!
As for your other points:
-Battery will get better, I'm now getting 48 hours out of it. All smartphones suffer from this. I see some users getting amazing results with the battery. Better standby time than any of the competition. Just give it some time to break-in nicely.
-Android 1.6 .. I don't miss anything. If 2.1 was so important to have right away you should have bought the Desire/N1 (but then you wont have the good camera and spectacular design)
-Snapdragon lags, it seems to lag sometimes on the other phones too
-Phone calls work allright for me, maybe bad reception/bad sim?
-Multitouch, same as Android 1.6, you knew it hadn't MT when you bought the device, so why complain? With the 4" screen I don't miss MT, I don't game on the X10.
-Root will come, again you knew this when you bought the phone..
The X10 is the best phone I owned period. However it could give you headaches if it's not the right phone for you. However you should have noticed that when browsing specs/reading reviews/buy the phone...
I get all your points guys and I appreciate the feedback.
Slight correction: With free GPS I meant without using 3G assistance, like Igo08 for example.
But your right, the battery issue should settle in after a few more days and I really hope to adapt myself to the X10 way of doing things.
Obviously when Timescape makes the correct modifications it will kick some serious butt... BUT for now you gotta give it to me that it was presented in a way smoother way then it really is! anyhow thanks for the feedback once again.
I have to Agree with Cinner.....after 1 1/2 weeks with this phone, I still have a hard time putting it down. The battery life could better as 10 hours of life is not enough but the overall feel and UI make up for that shortfall.
The HTC magic I had was on its 3rd replacement before trading for the X10....so far no lock ups or freezing
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I get all your points guys and I appreciate the feedback.
Slight correction: With free GPS I meant without using 3G assistance, like Igo08 for example.
But your right, the battery issue should settle in after a few more days and I really hope to adapt myself to the X10 way of doing things.
Obviously when Timescape makes the correct modifications it will kick some serious butt... BUT for now you gotta give it to me that it was presented in a way smoother way then it really is! anyhow thanks for the feedback once again.
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You can use any of the Android compatible GPS applications(Sygic,N_drive,Motonav,Copilot)without 3G assistance(Turn it off)and still get a very fast gps lock.
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You can use any of the Android compatible GPS applications(Sygic,N_drive,Motonav,Copilot)without 3G assistance(Turn it off)and still get a very fast gps lock.
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Thanks for the tip, I will look into it
Well, none of them are free.
This is the only thing making me still use my 5800 XM as my main phone and the X10 as media device
issues with xperia x10
I agree with the original post.
I have been experiencing many issues too with xperia x10 and i am very disappointed with this device.
I had an HTC Hero before and when i now switched to xperia x10 it feels like going back in time. The user experience and usability of the interface is far from the HTC Sense UI. You can really feel that HTC has been testing, merging, integrating and polishing many nice widgets to make the user have a good use of the android phone functions.
As some examples, the x10 comes with 3 emails clients by default (e-mail, gmail, moxier mail), but none of them can show all mail accounts integrated in the same. Why so many applications for emails????
I have to switch from one application to the other to see all my emails from various accounts, ex gmail, outlook exchange i need to use moxier mail. It was also not possible to add IMAP with certificate to the standard e-mail client, you have to use another speciifc program (moxier mail) for direct connection to exchange server and synch. The calender had the same issue. The calendar widget only shows google calendar and does not integrate both outlook calendar and google in the same as the HTC Hero. HTC Hero provides a single email clienst which shows all the emails from all accounts, very nice, and so easy to set up, same for calendars.
When i first started the X10 phone it had very little on the start screan, no widgets really, only the timescape, which was empty, and a browser which was empty too. no music player widget. no weather widget by default either. very bad impression. HTc comes with all widgets pre-installed, the music player is really good. Xperia x10 media scape looks really bad in comparison.
Another issue was when i wanted to use TED application to see videos from TED talk, well no video at all, only sound plays back. the application worked perfectly in HTC Hero which had same android 1.6 version...hmmmm.
Another issue is the battery as well, i feel really as the battery is comsumed very fast, it lasted only 7h.
The screen and design cannot be changed either, or i havenät figured out how, it seems as you can change only the background picture of the desktop, but not the overall theme of the phone, incl sounds and colors of windows.
The white text on fading blue background color is very difficult to read, especially on the bottom of the device...so only the 2/3 upper part is readable when in menus/settings. I also have been missing the trackball.
In htc hero (and all other htc sense phones like htc desire) you can customise the phone screens and themes much more and the overall design is consistent in all places.
I also find no use of mediascape or timescape. Mediascape is a bit rudimental compared with other media player. Timescape is really unusable, since you can´t read the text over the images in the backgroud, and the smaller one have so small text as well.
Positive things? .. let me think hard ... yes 3: the sligthly large screen, the 8m camera, the accessories.
In xperia x10 you can feel that the SonyEricsson team was not really ready when they shipped this phone. I really hope that the 2.1 upgrade coming will also bring some better integration, consistency and GUI improvements as HTC does. Onother solution would be to get the htc sense rom on the x10.
This thread should be retitled to "So few issues with x10". The post preceding mine is downright laughable, not enough widgets! Are you serious? That's your niggle? This easily SE's most ready for primetime phone EVER.
no one is perfect. and this applies to cell phones. if you don't like it. sell it to someone else who will appreciate it more.
and btw. i am enjoying my new X10 VERY MUCH.
its nice that you point out some of the negative issues about the phone but dont make it sound like SE made the phone just for you and you are not satisfy with it.
email your pts to SE and hope they will improve base on your opinion
Completed my 15th day with X10. First few days I was worried about battery but all that got better as I know I was using my phone a lot more than I normally do the first few days as I am trying to customize and play with the phone. Now, it easily lasts me like any other phone I had recently (Nexus One, iPhone 3GS, X1, etc).
I feel it's the best phone I ever owned even though I have a long wishlist but mainly the ability to create playlists and also to be able to add a track to the listening queue and smart dialer. There are free apps for smart dialer but I love the look of X10 dialer so I end up going back to it even though I miss the smart dial feature.
I don't see any lag with TimeScape or MediaScape. All I notice is if I open TimeScape after several hours and I have several new updates on Twitter and Facebook, it takes time only because it is trying to download data to update the tiles. If I am on WiFi, even these downloads happen quite fast.
The only main mod I did is change the keyboard to Swype.
Yes The X10 have problems, some people can live and still love it, others just can't stand it. Nothing is perfect, if you can't live with it, just part with it really.
I love my X10 with all its quirks, just to be a little bit patient till the Pros root the device and start cooking. SE won't do any updates until they release Android 2.1, lucky if we get that by september.
i dont know what you talking about. i know some have batteri iddue but i think domthing is erong with the batteri or phone since i dont have anny problem. the only bug/ issue the phone has is bluetoth that will be fixt in a patch. yes it can take 5 - 10 sec load timescape but its not lagy at al at my phone. send your phone back for repair and it will be fixt
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i dont know what you talking about. i know some have batteri iddue but i think domthing is erong with the batteri or phone since i dont have anny problem. the only bug/ issue the phone has is bluetoth that will be fixt in a patch. yes it can take 5 - 10 sec load timescape but its not lagy at al at my phone. send your phone back for repair and it will be fixt
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I think you have demonstrated another 'out of the box' issue with the X10 in your post there ! The shoddy default keyboard included on the X10 I have updated to the HTC keyboard and that is workng fine now, though I still find the IPOD keyboard easier to use....
I got the very first android that was available in Japan, HTC Magic via docomo 2 years ago. It was a terrible experience back then, super slow, but somewhat relieved by cyanogen mods back then.
Finally I gave up and decided to get an iPhone until Android matures enough.
I went thru two iPhone cycles and what can I say ... while they are very boring, they just worked.
2 Days ago I decided to get another Android, the Xperia Arc from docomo.
I am running Android 2.3.2 SO-01C build. All stock.
It's a lot better of an experience than the Magic was, but still I am surprised how slow it is. I read all these fantastic reviews here and I am just thinking "don't you have these issues, too?"
Yesterday I was at a networking event and tried to pull out my phone (xperia arc) to get someone's contact details. I tried to launch the Contacts app, and it actually takes 10sec+ with a white screen, then some sluggish interface pops up.
By the time I was ready to enter the number and email, the moment had passed and we settled on exchanging business cards instead. (quite embarrassing)
I was very disappointed.
I am having the same problem with the browser and the Gmail app. They both go thru these 10-15 seconds loading stage with white blank screen. After that I can close the app and restart it quickly, but if you leave it for sometime it does the blank screen thing again.
When going back to the home screen from any app, I first get a blank screen with just the wallpaper, then the dock loads, then some apps load, then the google widget loads. Feels like I am loading images on an 3x86 running windows 3.1.
Sometimes, it's even worse. I close "Pulse" newsreader app trying to return to "home" and I get to the home screen but "Pulse" turned into my wallpaper and it won't go away until I kill the process explicitly.
I mean ... can this really be thru? A brand new, top of the line phone running stock rom from Sony Ericsson.
They must've seen these issues when testing the phone.
Almost like XP writing to swap partition and my harddrive is falling asleep, except that my phone doesn't have a hard drive...
How can it still be that bad??
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Solved. It is crazy fast now!!
I reset the phone and DID NOT sign into any of the timescape stuff.
That did it for me.
It actually feels faster than the iPhone4 now. Wow, I am really amazed how far android got since I last tried it with the HTC Magic.
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vladuz976 said:
II read all these fantastic reviews here and I am just thinking "don't you have these issues, too?"
How can it still be that bad??
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They didn't and it isn't - you have a faulty handset.
Do you honestly believe that if the reviewers had handsets that took 10+ seconds to open an app that it would get the sorts of reviews the Arc has had?
That's ridiculous, no reviewer worth their salt would ever try and pretend that was reasonable performance, they'd lose all credibility.
Try resetting your handset or repairing it via SEUS, if that doesn't fix the issue, get it replaced.
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Do you honestly believe that if the reviewers had handsets that took 10+ seconds to open an app that it would get the sorts of reviews the Arc has had?
That's ridiculous, no reviewer worth their salt would ever try and pretend that was reasonable performance, they'd lose all credibility.
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... trust me, I don't want to believe it, that's why I posted here. I am very very disappointed after having spent a lot of money on this phone an then getting this.
It's a faulty phone, it happens - even to Apple.
^ Agreed. I also had the HTC magic before and just recently upgraded to the arc and what a world of difference!! The arc is so snappy and I don't have to wait 10-15 seconds to load up anything as I did before.
Suggest you reset and start from scratch....
I've seen almost similar problem. I reflashed and it never had the problem. Could be because of some Widgets or apps you installed are the problem. Also, very high resolution wallpaper could be issue. Some of the weather Widgets could be a pain depending on what add-on you installed. I find weatherbug elite slows my Arc.
Mate, 2 option;
1. go back to iphone. Sell you ARC.
and
2. visit your local Sony repair services, again for swap.
cheers
James
will try the reset now.
... sigh, so disappointed. Hope this is gonna help a bit.
Guys, I am using this app called "share my apps" to show you what I've got installed right now.
Also I am using the "nexus" live wallpaper. That should be fine, right?
my apps:
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Adobe Reader
Advanced Task Killer Free
Aedict
Amazon JP
ANA GLOBAL
AnkiDroid
AppMonster Pro
Chase
Chrome to Phone
ChromeMarksLite
CliphWeather
Clocks around the world
Docs
eBay
Expedia
Finance
Global Nuclear Watch
Goggles
IMDb
Kayak
Linda Manager
LinkedIn
MetroTouch
OurGroceries
Pulse
QR Droid
RunKeeper
ShareMyApps
Shazam
Skype
TripIt
Twitter
Wapedia
WebMD
xda premium
Zeam Launcher
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keijames said:
Mate, 2 option;
1. go back to iphone. Sell you ARC.
and
2. visit your local Sony repair services, again for swap.
cheers
James
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can't go back to my iPhone, I still have it. I have two contracts running. I wanted to use both simultaneously for half a year to really test it, while my iPhone contract is still running.
Get rid of the task manager, it'll do more harm than good.
Android manages tasks automatically, you don't need any extra apps to do so.
guys, I reset the phone and it seems a hell of a lot faster now. Unbelievable. I hope it stays this way, almost snappier than my iPhone.
Just one thing is weird, I cannot use the android market on my desktop anymore to install my apps remotely.
I haven't added cliphWeather widget back yet. I wonder if that was slowing everything down.
Don't use task killer and it won't help you anyways.
Try to do a factory reset or try and put a stock ROM without Docomo's stuff on it. You can simply flash with "Flash Too" program with no problem.
Even some apps in market says built for android 2.2 and up or 2.1 and up they are not yet ready with 2.3 therefore they have bugs which have not been worked out.
Flash a brand new ROM and don't install your apps. just set up your stuff and see if you have problem still.
If yes, then return the phone and get a new one.
If no, then you will be a happy person.
Good Luck
thanks for all the replies.
All I did was reset the phone and not install "CliphWeather" and it is lighting fast.
I am very impressed.
I also didn't sign into all the timescape stuff that SE offers.
Everything working as expected now.
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Lol yea from 1000 iPhone 4 maybe one is faulty. It is true. The arc is not what is suppose to be. Its just a beautiful phone that takes great pics... and I know u all going to say to op guy do a master reset. Get rid of crapware use launcher pro or adw lol. Here we go again. Look around here ..there is a lot of people complaining about same.issue. mine is running "OK" I use my thunderbolt more(blows this away 1000 times in.speed even running a beta 2.3.4 with sense 3.0 seriously) its the Sony UI ..definitely ...I'm gonna play around with the xperia play USA version tomorrow. Not Sony UI ..plain gingerbread and I guaranteed its way faster than arc. ..when sensations comes out this arc going up on eBay ..definitely. its 2011 no need to have headache with this when there is great faster devices out there. ... dude. Trust me. U gonna do a reset/re install rom maybe bla bla. At the end of the day u need to reboot cause phone gets laggy. Period. Unless a custom rom comes out without Sony UI then we talk
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Lol yea from 1000 iPhone 4 maybe one is faulty.
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Apple have similar failure rates to any other manufacturer.
Except unlike SE, they only give you a one year warranty.
vladuz976 said:
can't go back to my iPhone, I still have it. I have two contracts running. I wanted to use both simultaneously for half a year to really test it, while my iPhone contract is still running.
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are you comparing the iphone 4 or 3gs to an arc? what's your experience with speeds i was thinking of going to a iphone 4
iPhone4.
Arc feels much snappier.
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ajftl said:
Lol yea from 1000 iPhone 4 maybe one is faulty. It is true. The arc is not what is suppose to be. Its just a beautiful phone that takes great pics... and I know u all going to say to op guy do a master reset. Get rid of crapware use launcher pro or adw lol. Here we go again. Look around here ..there is a lot of people complaining about same.issue. mine is running "OK" I use my thunderbolt more(blows this away 1000 times in.speed even running a beta 2.3.4 with sense 3.0 seriously) its the Sony UI ..definitely ...I'm gonna play around with the xperia play USA version tomorrow. Not Sony UI ..plain gingerbread and I guaranteed its way faster than arc. ..when sensations comes out this arc going up on eBay ..definitely. its 2011 no need to have headache with this when there is great faster devices out there. ... dude. Trust me. U gonna do a reset/re install rom maybe bla bla. At the end of the day u need to reboot cause phone gets laggy. Period. Unless a custom rom comes out without Sony UI then we talk
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Lol are you seriously that cynic? Just because your phone, which you probably screwed up yourself, seems slow and crappy, ALL the other Arcs in the world have the same issues? You made my day man..
My Arc was facing the same slowness problem...
Seem if u sync facebook contacts the arc always connects to the net before opening contacts to sync the status updates... useless really....
Uninstalled FB ... is now lightning fast ....
This thread is in direct response to the concern regarding lost functionality after unlocking the bootloader and rooting an Xperia Z2 running 4.4 prior to any method of backing up the TA Partition.
I'm not too familiar with posting batches of photos on forums so I hope this works.
First photo in each set is Superior Auto and the second is manual mode at 8mp. Nothing else changed. Mostly flash off (first runs) some flash on (duplicates)
All of the inside shots I would consider pretty darn low light. Outside late dusk. Certainly not ideal situations, but I haven't had time for anything better.
For people stumbling on this thread the concern is that in past Sony phones losing the TA Partition has led to poor low light camera performance (among other things).
As I stated previously, I am impressed by the low light pictures taken with this phone. That's in comparison to my last lot of phones. Z1S, Nexus 5, HTC One, S3. It's why I'm so curious as to whether they could really be better and how bad could it have been on previous Sony phones that were even discussing it now.
The bottle of Jergens was photographed in a very dark room and the Old Spice was in total darkness.
I should note that the phone focuses just as quickly in daylight as it does in total darkness. Very impressive. I'm running DoomLord's custom kernel v2 w/ ClockworkMod Recovery.
I'll leave others with more experience to analyze the pictures, but I do have another related question: can you still use the built-in Sony media apps? Can you collect the free movies from the movie app or watch anything at all? What about the PlayStation Zone, can you download and play games from there? I'm hoping there is free content available in those apps for you to try, but I would love hearing about any experience you have with those apps.
Thanks for the thread!
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I'll leave others with more experience to analyze the pictures, but I do have another related question: can you still use the built-in Sony media apps? Can you collect the free movies from the movie app or watch anything at all? What about the PlayStation Zone, can you download and play games from there? I'm hoping there is free content available in those apps for you to try, but I would love hearing about any experience you have with those apps.
Thanks for the thread!
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Maybe you can enlighten me but I'm thinking it's NO. Attempting to log on to "Video Unlimited" gives me this message (I tried it several times and I have service)
I can log into the lounge but when I try to download or open anything it says the offer is expired. What else can I try?
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Maybe you can enlighten me but I'm thinking it's NO. Attempting to log on to "Video Unlimited" gives me this message (I tried it several times and I have service)
I can log into the lounge but when I try to download or open anything it says the offer is expired. What else can I try?
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I'm unlocked and rooted on custom rom and I can log into my music unlimited account with the Walkman app if that helps this situation at all.
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Well I must say you have cute dog. And yes you have lost the TA and post processing over all is okay.I think now the software itself handles it. No need of worrying about it at all. As you can see there are some noise your on your 4WD, Like if you take a closer look you can see the RGB colours going all over. Overall I don't think you lost the camera functionality yet I wish Sony won't screw this with their software update, It was heavily affected when Xperia Z was updated to 4.3. and there was a huge smoothening process was going.I was lucky I backed up TA back then, Many thanks to DevShaft for that contribution. Here I will share my drop box link where I did a comparison about UB and LB different firmwares on Xperia Z. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hhp7cuvy2sr1nhy/8U7gIP9I-v
Hi all,
I've just picked a Z3+ and was hoping the update had resolved the heat issues. Sadly not.
The phone is always hot, not warm, hot. I've got nothing running in the background and even just using text, maps or music is causing extreme heat problems. In the camera, same thing. I don't care about the AR Mask, but I don't to use the standard camera for more than 5 pictures at a time. The 4K video works, but the heat is ridiculous. How Sony let this release is beyond me.
Anyway, to the point. Is there something I can do to reduce the heat? I don't want to root or install another ROM really. Ideally I would like it swapped out if this is not an issue for other Z3+ users.
Has anyone continued to have issues after the update to 28.0.A.8.251?
Very frustrating from a £500 phone!
did you tried a repair trough sony PC Companion ?^^
barrygoddard said:
Hi all,
I've just picked a Z3+ and was hoping the update had resolved the heat issues. Sadly not.
The phone is always hot, not warm, hot. I've got nothing running in the background and even just using text, maps or music is causing extreme heat problems. In the camera, same thing. I don't care about the AR Mask, but I don't to use the standard camera for more than 5 pictures at a time. The 4K video works, but the heat is ridiculous. How Sony let this release is beyond me.
Anyway, to the point. Is there something I can do to reduce the heat? I don't want to root or install another ROM really. Ideally I would like it swapped out if this is not an issue for other Z3+ users.
Has anyone continued to have issues after the update to 28.0.A.8.251?
Very frustrating from a £500 phone!
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I'm totally agree with u, a "flagship" phone shouldn't be unable to make something easy like take a couple of photos or browsing (or use XDA app while charging and see how battery going down) because ridiculous overheat...
The only way at this point is try to repair through PC Companion or make factory resets until the phone works better....
Personally, is very frustrating install and configure all apps every wipe (w/o root "backup and restore" from pc companion sucks), but is the only way at the moment.... I have dual version and last update bring back to me overheat and radio active bug (after three repairs), but I'm tired to download all apps again after a downgrade... So I'll just let it be xD
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Hello,
One month ago I bought the Z3+ dual sim through Amazon.com and I'm using it in Spain with Vodafone and Movistar service providers at the same time.
The first thing I did (following the advises from this forum) was restoring the phone's firmware with the last available firmware through PC Companion. A few days after doing it, the very last firmware was released by Sony and available again through PC Companion.
With the stamina mode on, the phone is never hot. It's warm when watching YouTube videos, surfing the web or using the camera. But the phone is never hot, and not even warm when the phone is on stand by mode. In my case the battery lasts up to 2 days with up to 4h of screen.
Did you try to restore the firmware to factory settings?
Good luck!
What you could do is root the phone (there is an auto-root kernel in the Android Development section).
After installing it I got rid of some of the Sony applications on my Z3+ and it's working fine so far without Stamina mode or any other battery saving mechanisms (only the built in battery saver at 15% and the Sony one at 10%).
Not getting too hot as well, only a little bit warm to the touch but not too bad during normal use.
I had the same problem i updated first then still hot. So i did a factory reset and everything went fine until i started installing apps. So the phone got hot again, and i started to force close apps, put stamina mode on took away autosync everything that had with battery and background to do. Så the heat was gone until i started to use apps. There was this one app that basically did the overheat that was causing the heat. Everything time i used it the phone went overload so i uninstalled it, now everything is fine. So that's what i went through for the phone to work properly. I hope it helped you or gave you a hint at least.
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Thomas231 said:
What you could do is root the phone (there is an auto-root kernel in the Android Development section).
After installing it I got rid of some of the Sony applications on my Z3+ and it's working fine so far without Stamina mode or any other battery saving mechanisms (only the built in battery saver at 15% and the Sony one at 10%).
Not getting too hot as well, only a little bit warm to the touch but not too bad during normal use.
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Root is not good on Xperia. Will lost some DRM keys . Badly camera and sound quality. NO more Bravia and some other Sony goodies.
propov said:
Root is not good on Xperia. Will lost some DRM keys . Badly camera and sound quality. NO more Bravia and some other Sony goodies.
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Didn't notice any difference in recording quality on mine and quite frankly I don't really care for the Sony stuff, because I don't see that much value in it for myself since I don't use any other Sony products. But that's just me.
propov said:
Root is not good on Xperia. Will lost some DRM keys . Badly camera and sound quality. NO more Bravia and some other Sony goodies.
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Thats not true. You will lose DRM Keys and Functions ONLY If you Unlock Bootloader. Still, you can Root a Xperia phone without Unlocking Bootloader
Jonfensu said:
Thats not true. You will lose DRM Keys and Functions ONLY If you Unlock Bootloader. Still, you can Root a Xperia phone without Unlocking Bootloader
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Not this one.