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Hey everyone, Picked up a Vibrant last night, but ive run into an interesting issue.
The market is SOOO laggy. It takes up to 30 seconds to go between the main Market screen and the download screen (without any spinner). No data is going up or down, during that process. Also, when downloading\installing an app...it takes another 30 seconds or so after I hit install for the Okay or cancel options to come up (they came up instantly on my G1).
I cleared all my market cache, market downloader, etc and I am rooted.
Anyone w/ a suggestion or advice. This market issue is really a deal killer, as it takes like 5 minutes to install an app, let alone do several updates.
Thanks!
Seriously.....no one is having issues w/ the market lagging hardcore?
No issues here.
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zimphishmonger said:
Seriously.....no one is having issues w/ the market lagging hardcore?
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Not this bad, no.. but it does spend too much time on the loading page.
I noticed that too. it was on my Nexus too, I thought there was something wrong with the ROM, but now its on Vibrant as well. It was never this bad about a month ago.....
Same issue here, at first it was really, really bad and I had some other general lagginess. I did a factory reset and that seemed to help. It still has lag when compared to my MT3G Slide, but it definitely improved. I read somewhere that a lot of this lag is caused by the way the memory partitions are set up. Not sure about that though. Hopefully a firmware update with fix a lot of these issues. Fingers crossed.
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Well maybe its not unique to the vibrant?
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I believe this has a lot to do with the stalling issue that was reported before. I did experience the market lagginess you're talking about, but its gone now after applying the app data storage fix. This fix is a temporary solution until Samsung has something official.
Link: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=727279
(Sorry I couldn't post the full link because the moderator won't allow new users to post a link)
Interestingly enough, I attempted to isolate this issue, and I found it doesnt happen on a non-rooted phone, but as soon as I root it, the issue reoccurs. Very strange, considering rooting this phone does very little to it. Anyone w/ similar results? I will try the app data fix until Samsung makes something official, but at this point, the market is barely usable. I am even considering returning the phone if I cant get the results improved before the 30day grace period is up (although I really dont want to...this phone is great otherwise)
I also noticed that downloads never finish according to the market, they say "installing" indefinently, even though a "app was successfully installed" notification appeared, and the app can be run.
I have not had this issue on my vibrant, however on 3g it does take alot long to load as expected i guess, but I have not experience what you are, my vibrant is rooted as well and i have not applied the stall fix
I've noticed a little lag with the market right before I got my Vibrant using my Nexus One.
Well, glad others are having similar issues and its not just me. I am using WiFi to ensure 3g isnt causing the lag, and Ive completely wiped everything in order to try and diagnose this issue. Please post any suggestions or tips you have found helpful, thanks!
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Interestingly enough, I attempted to isolate this issue, and I found it doesnt happen on a non-rooted phone, but as soon as I root it, the issue reoccurs. Very strange, considering rooting this phone does very little to it. Anyone w/ similar results?
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I have had lagging issues, but not in the Market and certainly not as bad as you. I finally just rooted and applied the fix to move apps to NAND and my lagging issues have subsided a lot. Just wanted to let you know that I have had no Market lagging issues at all - rooted or unrooted.
I was just wondering if anyone else was having an issue with their web browser closing when surfing the web? I have been paying attention to this issue and I noticed that it could be sites with flash ads. I'm running stock, and I get the same results when I browse through skyfire. I'm just wondering is it just me experiencing this issue.
disable plugins and it works just fine.
Yeah I am pretty sure its flash because it only happens to me on certain sites and not all flash adds crash the browser...all the more reason that froyo can't come soon enough
Thanks, it was getting annoying when you're reading something and it just closes out on you. The phone has its up and downs, since I'm coming from a N1
I agree, disable plugins. I actually removed the Flash Lite that comes pre-installed and it stabilized the browser significantly.
I don't like flash, and probably would delete it from Froyo as well, though I'll give it a chance first. It's it's as buggy and unstable as most versions though, I'd rather not have it.
I didn't mind flash on the nexus one froyo. I can honestly said I liked it. Having the full product is way better experience, not once did the browser just close.
I don't even know why we have Flash. It's worthless
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I don't even know why we have Flash. It's worthless
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The version we have certainly is. I'll try the froyo version when I can, but I have been very disappointed in flash even on my powerful computers. It's just so damn slow.
I don't get it. I have compared my Vibrant to my Nexus one and 95% of the time the Vibrant is just as fast. Two exceptions, the market and speedtest.net app. Other than that, it flies! I will say before I did a hard reset the phone was in fact slow, it was a day and night difference after the reset. I get no lag, fast swipe through screens with TW launcher and apps open fast!
I have no lag that I can notice, but then again I don't bog my phones down with a ton of apps and games I will never use.
No lag. Stock rom, haven't factory resetted either. No GPS problems either without GPS fix o.0
Guess I was just lucky. I applied lag fix for the benchmarks for the hell of it though.
How speedy a device feels is very subjective and varies under different conditions.
I do have a Nexus One too ( in fact two) and in some respects it feels more responsive (mostly the menu, home, back and search button). Applications open faster as well.
Now, the comparison is not fair, ad the N1 is running Froyo and doesn't have the bloatware services installed by TMo (visual voicemail, my account, et al)
Browser and rendering speeds are much faster in the vibrant. Noticeably.
Download speed are much faster in the vibrant as well. Using Speedtest.net the vibrant scores 6 mbs vs 2 on the N1, same place, same time, same servers.
I think the biggest issue with the vibrant (other than the compass and the gps) is filesystem access, probablu due to using a large flash-based memory for storing apps.
I expect that when (if) the Froyo update arrives, the phone will fly.
In the meantime, and depending which apps people have installed and how they use the phone, some will continue to have better experiences with the N1, others with the vibrant.
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I don't have an N1 to compare to, but, there was definitely a lag. Tolerable most of the time, but it would be completely frozen during a single install of an app from market. And don't get me started on a phone reboot. I wish I had timed it to be exact, but it must have been 5 entire minutes from reboot to when I could open and actually use the camera again to record something. Opera loads probably twice (maybe 2.5 times) as fast. Engadget would literally take 5 seconds to come up and at *least* 5 seconds *per page* to load, if not more. I would hit the arrow and have to wait..and wait..and wait. Now, I can hit the arrow repeatedly and it scrolls through news (both new and old)
Maybe not all phones lagged, but mine certainly did. Hope froyo helps some so I'm not forced to run a hack to get around poor rfs performance (or whatever it is).
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No lag. Stock rom, haven't factory resetted either. No GPS problems either without GPS fix o.0
Guess I was just lucky. I applied lag fix for the benchmarks for the hell of it though.
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Would really like to know when people without gps or speed problems got their phones. I bought mine the 19th of July from costco.
Also, the, "take off all your apps and games you don't use regularly. Don't use any widgets on your screens. Don't use all 7 screens for apps or widgets" comments are counterproductive. The phone was DESIGNED for this kind of use and if it doesn't perform as designed. Well, that's a problem.
One more thing - people like me who post about perceived problems are not HATERS. I love the phone and its potential with future upgrades to the software and firmware. That's why I come to this forum, to gets thoughts from the android community. Besides, if everyone who loved the phone and had zero problems with it posted all the time there would be no room for those of us seeking advice.
After youtube vid by AKASKRILLER IM ROOTED DID LAGFIX IN 10MINS W/NO PC NOW IM BENCHIN 2100+........HELLLA FASSST
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I see what you did there...
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LAG FIX IN 10MINS........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dSg3qsD7QQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I wanted to say that I did the lag fix via the update.zip method and everything flies now including the Geniewidget which would rarely load articles. Samsung needs to or has fixed this (not sure, we don't know until we get an official update) but.. I can use the TWLauncher now.
Coming from a G1 I don't see any lag compared to what I was used to. Running Launcher Pro I personally feel its a bit smoother than TW 3.0, but still works perfectly fine for me.
I often wonder if people just look for something to tweak because they simply can't leave things alone and constantly want to improve because they simply can.
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Coming from a G1 I don't see any lag compared to what I was used to. Running Launcher Pro I personally feel its a bit smoother than TW 3.0, but still works perfectly fine for me.
I often wonder if people just look for something to tweak because they simply can't leave things alone and constantly want to improve because they simply can.
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There is some lag that was very noticeable which happened every time you tried to use the market place and some random apps(the market was faster on my mt3g before the lag fix), after the lag fix the loading screen is gone if not instant.
Just did this update and I went from 983 to 2187! Awesome difference!
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Coming from a G1 I don't see any lag compared to what I was used to. Running Launcher Pro I personally feel its a bit smoother than TW 3.0, but still works perfectly fine for me.
I often wonder if people just look for something to tweak because they simply can't leave things alone and constantly want to improve because they simply can.
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Same story for me. I've never seen this lag that everyone is talking about (except for the one person that mentioned some lag when installing apps - EVERY Android phone lags for a few seconds while an app is installing). I run the standard TW home and rooted and uninstalled a few of the bloatware apps I'd never use. Don't really see any reason to do the "lag fix".
As we are aware that there has been a official Froyo release for the captivate. Ive done some reading and cannot find conclusivly if things have been fixed as this may well be a good view of what the international version will look like.
The questions i have is
1. Is the GPS fix a completed fix and all is now well with teh gps.
2. Is JIT enabled and does it improve the speed.
3. Is the lag issue no gone or will we need to do a lag fix.
4. What other improvements are there? and whats not fixed?
Cheers guys if anything this will allow us to discuss the leak from our i9000 point of view.
You know there's a thread for this in the Captivate forums, right?
To save you some time, here's what I've gathered from the mammoth thread:
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The questions i have is
1. Is the GPS fix a completed fix and all is now well with teh gps.
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Some claim that the GPS is working better. Some also claim that it hasn't made much difference.
2. Is JIT enabled and does it improve the speed.
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JIT is enabled but the software hasn't been optimised for the SGS' processor yet.
3. Is the lag issue no gone or will we need to do a lag fix.
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According to some, there is less lag. But as with the GPS fix some are still claiming that there is still lag.
4. What other improvements are there? and whats not fixed?
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See this article and this xda-developers thread.
thanks for the update but i had seen those and like you mention its a mixed bag so i just wanted to get an overall feel of what the version is like as alot of people complain endlessly and they seem to be the ones posting well as the ones that are happy post less as they have nothing to complain about.
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thanks for the update but i had seen those and like you mention its a mixed bag so i just wanted to get an overall feel of what the version is like as alot of people complain endlessly and they seem to be the ones posting well as the ones that are happy post less as they have nothing to complain about.
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It is unlikely that lag has been fixed as Samsung is still using the RFS file system. The problem with the lag is that it gets worse over time so even those claiming they have no lag immediately after installing new ROM will probably get it after a few days.
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GPS is definitely NOT fixed.
Leaked FROYO on Captivate - excellent so far
ATT Captivate
One of the pre-Nov 6, 2010 Korean machines - and, yes, it has had the random turn-off issue both pre and after upgrade to FROYO.
Use LauncherPro for the Home Screen.
Used SuperOneClickv1.7-ShortFuse to root.
Working around the random turn-off with NoBars app - we'll see if it works.
RESULTS:
Phone is WAY faster than 2.1
GPS works fine
Good new additions and look in Settings
Apps I use simply do NOT FORCECLOSE! ...like some did incessantly with 2.1
Of course, voided warranty, but phone is now fast, stable, and seems to be much more reliable.
Andrew
Orlando
ATT Captivate FROYO update re random shut-down....
Well, I know there are threads about this - ones I've seen are closed.
So, a quick update just in case anyone finds this useful:
The random shut down continued, despite NoBars app.
Installed APN OnOff. Turned it ON, disabling 3G/EDGE/GPRS, and after 3 hrs, no turning off. Turned it APN back off, and noticed the screen would go blank, and I could bring it back by pressing power button without then having to enter my security code, every time something accessed 3G/EDGE/GPRS. Put phone into standby - shut itself down within 10-15 mins.
Solution I am trying: following above I went into sync settings and disabled Background Data, and Auto-sync. So far so good - no shut down.... if it does, it does look like the APN OnOff app will prevent this, you'd just have to turn it off when needing to use the 3G/EDGE/GPRS.
Andrew
Orlando
Ok, so stock Vibrant "lag". What does this mean, precisely? I'm a rooted but otherwise stock JI6, and I don't see any lag anywhere on the phone.
If I were to be experiencing this lag, what would it look like?
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Ok, so stock Vibrant "lag". What does this mean, precisely? I'm a rooted but otherwise stock JI6, and I don't see any lag anywhere on the phone.
If I were to be experiencing this lag, what would it look like?
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Get Xscope V5 (V6 is buggy) browser for free x-labs.net and use it for a day or two. Notice how slow it loads webpages sometimes. Or try Miui Browser (not in market) GUI lags a little too
The LAG that most people are talking about is when you switch windows or open a new app. Sometimes when doing this, the phone will seem to freeze for a moment before going to the new app or page.
With Voodoo lagfix, I have not seen this happen once, where with stock it happened all the time.
If you have rooted your phone and gone down the mod rabbit hole, lagfix is well worth it.
I installed a LagFix recently like I did months ago and saw no huge change in performance (barely any change really) This "lag" problem is about as overblown as it could be. Firefox runs as smoothly as it can (it's not that smooth, beta and needs 40MB of ram on my phone. JFD firmware was did have some lag issues though that we're a problem. Some serious lag was solved by a factory reset or by reloading the OS. The lagfix isn't worth the reduced app space or lesser reliability. If you have no problems with how your phone is running, don't bother with any hacks like that.
Some people randomly got major lag when updating from JFD to JI6. A data wipe solves it.. and they couldn't be happier.
The 'lag' that you see people complaining about does not happen on all phones, all the time.
And I need to remind you to be careful about installing any lagfix. Read up on what it does and how it may affect your phone BEFORE installing it.
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The LAG that most people are talking about is when you switch windows or open a new app. Sometimes when doing this, the phone will seem to freeze for a moment before going to the new app or page.
With Voodoo lagfix, I have not seen this happen once, where with stock it happened all the time.
If you have rooted your phone and gone down the mod rabbit hole, lagfix is well worth it.
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Agreed, you might think the phone is fast now but when you install the lag fix you'll definately notice a difference.
It amazed me when I had to go back to stock (after soft bricking my phone) and I had to install rom manager from the market while everything was stock and it was crazy how slow it was.
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I installed a LagFix recently like I did months ago and saw no huge change in performance (barely any change really) This "lag" problem is about as overblown as it could be. Firefox runs as smoothly as it can (it's not that smooth, beta and needs 40MB of ram on my phone. JFD firmware was did have some lag issues though that we're a problem. Some serious lag was solved by a factory reset or by reloading the OS. The lagfix isn't worth the reduced app space or lesser reliability. If you have no problems with how your phone is running, don't bother with any hacks like that.
Some people randomly got major lag when updating from JFD to JI6. A data wipe solves it.. and they couldn't be happier.
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Gonma take our two vibrants to tmo and use my camcorder to rexord us using different phones after fresh reboots soon to shut up idiots like u.
The lag issue is far from overblown.
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N8ter said:
Gonma take our two vibrants to tmo and use my camcorder to rexord us using different phones after fresh reboots soon to shut up idiots like u.
The lag issue is far from overblown.
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N8ter is a troll, just read their posts. Where did I say "fresh reboot"? Nowhere!
N8ter said:
Gonma take our two vibrants to tmo and use my camcorder to rexord us using different phones after fresh reboots soon to shut up idiots like u.
The lag issue is far from overblown.
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Am interested in seeing said video.
Here is a video I took a while back. I'd be interested in seeing the lag. I know someone with a DROID X, behavior is exactly the same when opening apps. It was the same when I installed the lag fix.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl1Q2qlRNwE
I'm on stock JI6, non-rooted.
I think what I'm experiencing is considered lag.
It doesn't happen all the time but it is annoying when it does.
Sometimes it'll take 10 seconds for an app to launch.
It's especially bad if I have more than a couple of apps going at the same time.
Some of this can be worked around, keeping as few apps going as possible. I don't use a task killer, I just back out of apps instead of switching home and keeping the app in memory.
There are certain apps where it seems to be worse in.
The Facebook app is horrible to the point where I don't use it but I'm not sure if that's the app or the phone. I can't scroll a page without the phone locking up for 3-4 seconds. Clicking on anything takes about 3-5 seconds for it to register.
I'm pretty disappointed in Samsung in general with their software. The hardware is great, the software just sucks.
One of these days I'll get around to installing another ROM.
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I'm on stock JI6, non-rooted.
I think what I'm experiencing is considered lag.
It doesn't happen all the time but it is annoying when it does.
Sometimes it'll take 10 seconds for an app to launch.
It's especially bad if I have more than a couple of apps going at the same time.
Some of this can be worked around, keeping as few apps going as possible. I don't use a task killer, I just back out of apps instead of switching home and keeping the app in memory.
There are certain apps where it seems to be worse in.
The Facebook app is horrible to the point where I don't use it but I'm not sure if that's the app or the phone. I can't scroll a page without the phone locking up for 3-4 seconds. Clicking on anything takes about 3-5 seconds for it to register.
I'm pretty disappointed in Samsung in general with their software. The hardware is great, the software just sucks.
One of these days I'll get around to installing another ROM.
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You obviously have something else going on here.. Facebook runs with no problems on my phone. If you flash another rom everything will be wiped, just the same as what I said above. The FB app taking 10 seconds to load and locking up the phone is NOT normal behavior.
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You obviously have something else going on here.. Facebook runs with no problems on my phone. If you flash another rom everything will be wiped, just the same as what I said above. The FB app taking 10 seconds to load and locking up the phone is NOT normal behavior.
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I think you're right. It doesn't make sense that facebook would be so bad.
Everything else is pretty much okay.
I think I'm going to try one of the other ROMs. Just need to find some time.
Also, I'm dreading having to go through the whole process of reinstalling and reconfiguring everything. I might have to try titanium backup so that I don't have to do that.