hi guys
im from Israel..
i just got a new HTC aria device
i unlocked it with a code for any GSM carier for supported Israeli's network
now the phone is no longer under AT&T, it for Cellcom (an Israeli company)
the device support this:
HSPA/UMTS/(1900/850MHZ) GSM/GPRS/EDGE (Quad band 850/900/1800/1900MHZ)
Cellcom SIM CARD support this:
HSPA/UMTS/(2100MHZ) GSM/GPRS/EDGE (Quad band 850/900/1800/1900MHZ)
when i entered a regular sim which is for GSM only the device worked just fine..
but when i entered the USIM (the HSPDA's supported sim card - that suppose to support the GSM frequency as well) the device couldnt recognize any carier..
what should i need to do?
is there a way for changing the sim card frequency settings from the Android's settings?
do i have any possibilty for using HSPDA supported sim card without supported frequency in Israel?? because the device soesnt know the 2100MHZ HSPDA freq.
cause i thougt that device will handle this issue (works for calls) and will block me only when ill want to web through the Cellcom mobile in HSPDA
but still will let me to web through GSM witch is more slowly..
HeLPPPPP
i think you're out of luck unless you get the proper sim card for the proper frequencies.
Since Cellcom uses UMTS 2100, you would have been better off to buy an Asian or European phone. AT&T doesn't use the 2100 band and decided not to include it in this phone. You won't get 3G on that carrier.
According to Wikipedia, another provider - Pelephone - has some of its 3G service on the 850 band which would be supported by the Aria. But in any area that is served only by the 2100 band, your Aria will not get 3G.
No idea why one particular SIM isn't letting you onto their GSM network.
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Currently I am using my phone with Cingular (GSM SIM Card), nonetheless my understanding is that with a USIM Card it should work WCDMA 2100, that means Sprint, please your comments, thanks
Sprint does *NOT* run a UMTS network - they run CDMA EV-DO
Therefore you cannot use the universal on Sprint (or verizon for that matter). You can use it on T-mobile and Cingular (and about 10 MVNOs in the US)
You cannot use the universal's 3G capabilities in the US because in North America we dont use the 2100 band - we use 1900 and in the future 800 as well
Hope this helps
Hi. Newbie in this forum. Bought an htc tytn from u.s. but am from Phil using smart carrier with gsm band at 1800. after going thru sev topics, properly identified device as Herm200 rom:1.18.255.3 07/22/06 extrom:1.18.255.106 radio1.03.03.10 protocol32.34.7010.01H.
All phone features working perfectly except for 3G. Smart carrier people cannot help. What could be wrong. Vendor says 3g works on 2100 band. Confusing statement. What can be done? Connects to umts but when video call is pressed will not connect.
Which carrier are you on again? Smart Carrier? .. From what I know no carriers in the US support video calling .. Also, Cingular is the only GSM carrier in the US with 3G which runs on the 1900Mhz band ..
also .. what does your phone display while connected "G" or "U" ... what are your phone band settings .. can you also goto dslreports.com/mspeed and see what speeds are you getting ..
According to GSM world SMART (a Philippine operator) uses UMTS 2100, which your TyTN does definitely support.
Have you checked if your SIM card is 3G-enabled? Most 3G networks require special USIMs for 3G usage.
I just learned, that Cingular uses UMTS 850 and 1900 to be exact. According to the American HTC website the Cingular 8525 supports "Tri-band UMTS/HSDPA high speed wireless data network support (2100MHz and 850/1900 MHz), Quad-band GSM®/GPRS/EDGE worldphone".
Does anyone know if there is a special hardware version, that supports UMTS850 & 1900 or will my European TyTN work on those networks, too?
TyTN is tri-band UMTS .. 850/1900/2100 .. so it should work on these networks without any issues ...
And my bad .. didnt realize that you are trying to use the TyTN in Phillipines ..
You should also check, if the called party has a 3G signal, while you call him. Further make sure video calls are activated by your network operator.
3g problems in the philippines
Everything you guys mentioned in order(am in a 3g area calling a 3g enabled party with a 3g sim card). Even the tech staff behind Smart Communications cannot make it work. Displays U and u. But video call cannot push thru even if pic on front camera shows. There is 1 thin line( or command?) stopping it from connecting. My last option is to borrow my friend's unit and see if her unit's 3g works here then it's my device that's a problem. Thnks for the input. Keep it coming.
Herm200 qwerty rom:1.18.255.3
07/22/06
extrom:1.18.255.106
radio1.03.03.10
protocol32.34.7010.01H.
Hi. I don't know how they did it but Smart Communications did it! Apparently and ironically their 3g sim card is not compatible with the htc tytn but their regular sim is. Thanks all.
are u using 3G now in Phil ?
Is there a Globe perpaid 3G simcard ?
3g problems no more
Hi everyone. After my first thread i have finally got everything on my tytn working: 3g, mms, internet, phone. The problem was on the settings. Smart and Globe, the primary carriers in the Philippines can both work on the phone if the settings are right.
sectorlord,
yes there is 3g and hsdpa along with gsm and gprs and wap in the philippines. and yes you can buy globe prepaid 3g sim card.
glad to hear you've got your problems solved jjc!
hello all, i have a x7500 original from israel cellcom company now it's sim free i have it with the orange israel gsm network and it's working fine with both networks cellcom,orange but i have also a new sim card from new israel gsm company "pelephone" they using some new gsm technology 3.75g not 3g or 3.5g -"hspa"(not HSDPA) when i put the sim card in side my athena he keep searching fro network and no bars aftersome time show me "no service" but i able to read the sim contact o notice that if i got new voce mail it will show me a notification
"you got new voice mail" although no service i tried to play with the phone settings tried select wcdma the different band still nothing i tried gsm with different band nothing
i tried the sim card on other nokia phone the same story then i selected use umts and it worked like magic the phone make income and out come calls
i tried select umts in the athena still same story
ive got the "umts 2100/800"
the new gsm network use umts 2100/850 mhz hspa
is their any way to make athena work with this network
2100/850 im using wm6.5 spl3.5 radio 1.58 and the only umts option that ive got is UMTS 2100/800 mhz
i need some how to make it work on 3G: HSDPA 850
i need some how to make it work on 3G: HSDPA 850
Hi all,
I am desperately looking for a solution to the above problem.
Background: I moved about a year ago from Germany to Canada. My HD2 worked well with the sim card from Telefonica/O2 on the network over here. The phone itself is not locked but branded. Anyway when I tried to change to a Bell sim card it did not want to work. So I looked up the frequencies. My HD2 works on the following frequencies:
GSM1800
GSM1900
GSM850
GSM900
W-CDMA(UMTS)
The providers over here have the following frequencies:
Telus (including Koodo)
2G
CDMA 850/1900
EVDO 850/1900
3G (and fake 4G)
HSDPA 850/1900
HSPA+ 850/1900
UMTS 850/1900
WCDMA 850/1900
1x EV-DO CDMA2000
Bell (including Virgin Mobile, PC Mobility)
2G
CDMA 850/1900
EVDO 850/1900
3G (and fake 4G)
HSDPA 850/1900
HSPA+ 850/1900
UMTS 850/1900
WCDMA 850/1900
1x EV-DO CDMA2000
Rogers (including Fido, Petro-Canada Mobility)
2G
GSM 850/1900
GPRS 850/1900
EDGE 850/1900
3G (and fake 4G)
HSDPA 850/1900
HSPA+ 850/1900
UMTS 850/1900
WCDMA 850/1900
I thought at least that with the frequencies like CDMA and GMS matching I could use any provider that works with these frequencies. Obviously I was wrong there Anyway I want to use the phone. Can anyone out there help me and get me the information which provider would work with the phone? I would use anyone as long as I can just use my HD2 again.
Thanks so much for any kind of help.
realShadow
EU HD2 will work on gsm in Canada but looks like will not match 3G wcdma used in Canada.
I used my EU HD2 in Canada on Rogers for a week & was fine on gsm.
Do check in phone settings to see bands are set to auto or gsm only, if set to wcdma only then will not connect to anything.
Not much you can do on 3G issue as hardware & not changeable, the australian Telstra HD2 & USA T-Mobile Hd2 is more compatible as hardware supports the 850,1900 & 2100 wcdma bands ....
Mister B said:
EU HD2 will work on gsm in Canada but looks like will not match 3G wcdma used in Canada.
I used my EU HD2 in Canada on Rogers for a week & was fine on gsm.
Do check in phone settings to see bands are set to auto or gsm only, if set to wcdma only then will not connect to anything.
Not much you can do on 3G issue as hardware & not changeable, the australian Telstra HD2 & USA T-Mobile Hd2 is more compatible as hardware supports the 850,1900 & 2100 wcdma bands ....
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Thanks Mister B
I was with my German sim card also on Rogers. I just did not know if the phone would also be able to handle the local sim card. I will try Petro Canada or Fido. Rogers is a little expensive. Anyway thanks. Gives me hope
realshadow
Mister B said:
EU HD2 will work on gsm in Canada but looks like will not match 3G wcdma used in Canada.
I used my EU HD2 in Canada on Rogers for a week & was fine on gsm.
Do check in phone settings to see bands are set to auto or gsm only, if set to wcdma only then will not connect to anything.
Not much you can do on 3G issue as hardware & not changeable, the australian Telstra HD2 & USA T-Mobile Hd2 is more compatible as hardware supports the 850,1900 & 2100 wcdma bands ....
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Hey all,
I just wanted to give a feedback on my recent experience. I yesterday checked at a Fido shop and I can confirm that it works. I now can use my HD2 again :good::victory::victory::victory::good:
I will get a sim card next weekend and then will see how to update my phone to something more current.
Thanks again for the tip Mister B
realShadow
I recently own a X829 variant with 16S stock rom. Use dual sim feature and this is all I can get in data usage (voice works ok do):
SIM 1: 4G 2600 mhz OK, 3G and 2G 1900 mhz NOT WORKING
SIM 2: 4G 2600 mhz OK, 3G and 2G 850 mhz OK
The phone detects 1900 mhz band (either 2G or 3G) and I can use it for calls, but it cannot use it for data. I want to use the data plan of SIM 1 because I have much better data plan.
If 1900 mhz were not supported (Information says it is), even voice call wouldnt work, right?
Maybe I will need a unlock band feature provided by this user?: https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-max-2/how-to/guide-unlock-bands-leeco-le-max-2-fix-t3439154
Best regards to all
Your using T-Mobile in the states? ( location and available bands might be a factor)
Sounds like maybe just a settings issue. If you remove one sim, can you connect to these bands?
I'm using at&t in the states and specifically use one sim for data, and second for calls/texts, but can only use ONE at 4g at a time.... Can't have both at LTE connection.
I'm afraid not, I'm from Chile so I'm using local providers:
SIM1: Entel
SIM2: Movistar
I already test switching SIMs trays, I know I cannot use tray 2 for 4G/data. but it's funny I can only use 4G in both SIMCards in tray 1, but not 3G/2G in Entel carrier.
So If I use SIM1 in tray 1 only I get 4G, wich is good, but as I move far from city and 4G is not available, it will switch to 3G/2G (it appears in phone tray) and data will not be available anymore.
Install official Chinese s23. From the official leeco page. That will upgrade radio firmware and fingerprint firmware, from there, then you can flash any other custom ROM or stay with s23. Which is stable and good. Also full date wipe is recommended.
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I'm afraid not, I'm from Chile so I'm using local providers:
SIM1: Entel
SIM2: Movistar
I already test switching SIMs trays, I know I cannot use tray 2 for 4G/data. but it's funny I can only use 4G in both SIMCards in tray 1, but not 3G/2G in Entel carrier.
So If I use SIM1 in tray 1 only I get 4G, wich is good, but as I move far from city and 4G is not available, it will switch to 3G/2G (it appears in phone tray) and data will not be available anymore.
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I'm not familiar with those carriers, but google says all those bands should be supported. My only other suggestion would be to upgrade the firmware like already suggested.
16s on x829 was made for the states, not sure if that's what's holding you back,
Remember to backup, save your data and modem files.
Ok, so I tried Indian 16s, and a (slighthy) moddified chinese 23s without success, same issue: can call in 2G/3G 1900 Mhz Band but data doesnt work in that band.