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I know this is going to be made especially difficult with all the different software/combo's that can be loaded, but I have to post this up and see if any one else has seen this and if it might be hardware or software.
I have a HERMS 100 (8525). I first got the phone in April with WM5 (don't know which build they might have been on then) and which ever Radio was coming on them then. My battery would usually last 2 days with my avg use.
This has been the case threw upgrades until the last 2-3 months. I upgraded From one version of WM6 to VP3G's 2.X build of WM6 and I upgraded the radio to which ever version was the newest at that time (maybe 1.47 or 1.50). I Noticed a sudden drop in battery life, but the phone pretty much always made it a full day even with high use, so I didn't think much of it. I did notice about this time that sometimes the phone would alarm me and say it had 20% battery remaining, but if I rebooted the phone it would say 80 or 90% power remaining when it came back on and work fine the rest of the day.
The following has been over the last month. I upgraded to VP3G's 3.0 and again later to 3.6 and again to 3.62. I noticed the battery continued to degrade throughout this time. So I upgraded the radio to 1.54. The battery continued to go down hill at an even rate, but I noticed something else, the battery would not take very long to charge, but was dying faster and faster.
Well I started tracking and experimenting. Starting last week (no change in software or ROM's for the last 2 or 3 weeks) the battery would rarely make it through the day even when the phone was not in use any during the day (Granted I get no cell service at my desk at work, but I never have even back when the phone would last 2 days searching for signal). Most days last week it wouldn't make it 5 hours from being unplugged even when the phone wasn't in use. I decided to run the battery all the way down to where it wouldn't even turn the phone on anymore as I had heard sometimes you needed to do that after a rom upgrade. It did not help, but I noticed that the phone said the battery was fully charged within 2 hours from being completely dead.
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Today was the worst, I unplugged it after being plugged in all night. Unplugged it at 6:45am. I did not use the phone, it just stayed in standby (I hadn't even taken it out of standby any today. I am at work with no service (When I say no service, I don't mean sometimes it finds something, I mean no cell service from any carrier makes it past 10 feet of the front doors entering the building and I am about 150 feet from the closest wall to the outside). I grab the phone at around 10:30am to check on a meeting notice, clicked on the phone to wake up and the battery alarm alerted and the battery said I only had 20% power remaining. In 5 minutes of doing what I was doing the battery had gone down to 10% remaining (so the phone went from lost 90% of it's power, never being used in less then 4 hours). I went back to my desk, plugged the phone back in and within an hour I noticed the amber light on the front that I relate it to telling me it's charging had turned green, I unplugged it and checked it and the battery said it was full 100%. Could the battery really charge that fast?
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I know this would be easier if I could remember what radio and what version of WM5 came on this phone and loaded it back on and I am in the middle of downgrading the radio since I had ran WM6 with no battery issues separate from WM5 until I did that one upgrade with the radio. I guess I am curious if this could be a hardware (phone or battery) where it's not charging fully or if this seems to be a software issue.
I know all the factors that can be involved make this hard, but thanks for any responses you guys can give.

ok, how about this one, Is my battery screwed? I notice while I am using the phone the battery gets really hot. Today it did the same thing of all of a sudden saying I had 10% power after only using it for 5 mintues, rebooted the phone and now I am back to 70%.

Hi,
There's a lot on here about this problem. Have you read the wiki?
Some solutions you might try:
- turn wifi off.
- turn off all beams
- put in the fake server trick.
- search to see if you have any software that continuously polls the battery or is seeking an exchange server
- ensure all your apps fully close rather than minimise
- invest in a new battery.
WB

Thanks, I have gone through the wiki Continuasly since I got the phone in April, but with all the stuff out there, I could have easily missed something.
- turn wifi off - Never turn it on
- turn off all beams - Beaming disabled
- put in the fake server trick - Have to research that one
- search to see if you have any software that continuously polls the battery or is seeking an exchange server - have to check, don't have exchange server setup. I do have it checking emails every 15 minutes, but I never had any issues with that setting and the battery lasting a couple of days
- ensure all your apps fully close rather than minimise - X button set to close not minimize and I often check it to see whats running.
- invest in a new battery. - Will be doing that next. Just waiting to see what case I might get for Christmas.
Thanks again, I will research those other items.

I had a similar problem where the stock battery would only ever last for ~7-8 hours - even on standby. I got an extended life 3000mAh battery and that managed to last for about 14 hours.
I had a talk to HTC and they agreed to warranty claim it. I'm still waiting for it back... It was sent back to them on 14/11, and I'm still waiting.

Stop your device checking for emails for a few days and ses what happens. Definitely install the fake server trick. Activesync continuosly trying to do its dirty work can be a pain in the arsenal, at times.
Let us know how you get on.
WB

wacky.banana said:
Stop your device checking for emails for a few days and ses what happens. Definitely install the fake server trick. Activesync continuosly trying to do its dirty work can be a pain in the arsenal, at times.
Let us know how you get on.
WB
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Well I turned off email checks last night and disabled the radio this morning so it wouldn't search for signal when coming to work and set the phone on my desk. I never used it this morning, just had it sitting on my desk in standby, until about 4 hours after I took it off the charger and the phone buzzed me and when I checked the phone the battery said 0% remaining and the phone cut off a few seconds later (now I am sure if I would have turned it back on the battery would say something like 70%, but I didn't do that this time). I left the phone off and plugged it into the computer to charge, the LED on the front come on amber for about 20 minutes then went to green. I turned the phone on and it says 100%. I don't see how the battery went from 0 to 100 in a matter of 20 minutes.
I did a lot of searching the last couple of days and phone issues from email to bad manufactured batteries (which I happen to have the brand someone suggested as a bad one), I also saw people pointing out do the fake server trick, yet I can't find a single time where anyone said what the trick is or how to do it. Not even in the WIKI where the trick was mentioned as a possible fix (or google for that matter, just the same words first posted in a thread here about it).
So, how do you do this server trick?
I plan to get a new battery after Christmas at any rate.

Check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338421&highlight=fake+server+trick
I was having the same battery drain problem (less than 8 hrs on a full charge), I did the fake server and turned off auto day light saving time checking the clock settings, I now get 12 - 15 hrs on a full charge.
I'm running vp3G's 3.62.3 AT&T ROM with radio 1.54.07.00

Thanks! I was just finishing flashing a new ROM when I saw this. I did the fake server trick, but this rom doesn't have the Dya Light Savings time option where the instructions say it should be. Maybe that's all removed by this rom. TIme will tell.
Thanks again.

@ Firehawkns
hey buddy!!
I am using a JasJam for the last 2 months. i dont know if my reply is useful to you or not. As far as battery life is concerned am impressed with mine. Am using TNT's latest ROM and my radio version is 1.54.07.00. I use my phone all day with couple of calls that last about 2-3 min each. But every night I get calls from my gf, to whom I talk for 3 hours straight(mostly starting from 11pm to 2 am) and every day I put my phone to charge after I finish the call. So after finishing the call I still have 50% of battery. Moreover our call starts right after I leave work at 11pm so by the time I reach home which is around 11.30pm my phone connects to wifi too. So all the time am on the call as well as an active wifi connection.
So as per my experience the battery life is cool. So try TNT ROM!!!

Interestingly enough, now I've got my phone back from the warranty claim, it's only drawing 81mA with backlight on, no wifi or BT. Before sending it back, it was drawing ~180mA with backlight on, no wifi or BT.
This will just about double the battery life that I get in theory...
Install BatteryStatus on your device and see what it tells you.

That is a cool program.
First off I really hope it isn't the phone, for one it's my third one from Cingular since the first two died within 2 weeks (back in may), second it's got one big gash down the corner where it came out of the holder and hit the road one day. I think that would be just enough reason for them to not do anything with it.
Anyway, I am going to replace the battery because I can't figure out why the phone is doing things like saying it has 20% batt remaing, then I reboot and it goes to 70%. I am hoping this is a battery issue. So far the phone has been unplugged for a tad less then one hour, has not been used and the battery meter is on 90%.
Battery Status is a kick butt program and I plan to do some searching today to see if people have benchmarked there ratings/draw. I notice mine jumps randomly. With wifi, BT, all programs all terminated, backlight on the lowest it will go and radio has one bar 3g sometimes, two bars Edge sometimes, but didn't change during watching this list below, but the MA does this every 5 second refresh:
111--190----125-----109----250----210-----140----135----226---111---etc.
I am currently running a barebones fresh flash WM6 rom with nothing installed except Cingulars media net/ISP settings, radio is 1.47.10. Going to try 1.50 today I think.
I turned the radio off just now and the MA went down (expected) to 84 and is jumping between that and 104. The battery has dropped to 80% since I listed 90 above. The phone has now been unplugged for right at an hour. Also it might be interesting to note that the little battery percent/bar icon on the "Battery Status" software once in a while will display -1% like it is right now, the phones battery display says 80% and when I tap the battery icon on battery status it jumps to 80%.
Anyway, I am just listing points since this thread is here, I know I need to replace the battery first before any additional insight can be brought forward.
Thanks everyone.

Hmm.. On my Schaps 4.22full, radio 1.54.00 on good reception (on Finnish network) I get around 30 mA with GSM and 3G when idling(no wifi, no bluetooth, no beam, backlight around halfway). With airplane mode on I get around 28 mA. Tried with backlight dimmest and the drain was 15mA on GSM network.
Usually I put the 3G off so the battery would last longer.
The phone takes more power when searching the network so it would be a good idea trying to switch the phone part off at your office.

Well, looks like it was indeed the battery. Over the last week the phone would randomly shut off (about 4 times a day), the battery would be at 10% within 4 hours even if the phone hadn't been used, and while using the phone you could almost watch the battery go from 90% to 30% within a 5 minute talk time, reboot the phone and it would be back at 80%.
Put in the new battery yesterday after charging over night and the phone not only didn't shut off at any point, but I had 60% power remaining by the end of the day (with some data and voice use).
The old battery was a Dynapack from China, that I had read on here is prone to defects.
Thanks for the help everyone, wish I would have gotten a new batt sooner.

Sudden loss of battery capacity

had my hd2 for a couple of months now, battery has been ok, normally if i didn't do much with it it would probably last a couple of days.
But over the last couple of days i've seen my battery capacity disappear, today i unplugged it from the charger at about 9am, by 3pm i was down to 50%.
Of course i checked all the usual suspects, but found i have no apps running, no wifi, no bluetooth, no data connection and i had made or received no calls or text messages
while i investigate what might have changed over the last week or so, can anyone else offer some suggestions?

how is your signal where you are, if it drops from H and 3g it will use more battery power trying to get the signal back, or you could have a damaged battery

Having the same issue right here, just in the past few days. I got mine 'round christmas. Maybe the battery is of poor quality, so it looses capacity after "few" charges (remind how often you have to recharge your hd2 under normal conditions).

looks like it's solved
tried rebooting and resetting with the reset button but no joy...
i had installed a trial version of Navigon 7 last week, i removed it last night and the battery consumption is back to normal now. Strange as Navigon wasn't even running while it was draining the battery, maybe it has some process running in the background?

EVO battery and restarting problem

Hello all,
I've had my EVO for about 2 months so far. I've notice just like everybody that the battery life sucks to hades. I've rooted the phone since then.
1st problem) Maybe it's me or it's a problem no one addressed yet, The phone will start getting hot when it is in standby mode. When the back light goes out it gets hot. I've check to see if there were any wild or un-needed services running and there isn't, and its not like McDonald's Coffee hot but very very warm to the touch. And when it does that the battery life starts at 100% and ends at 20% within 40 minutes.
2nd problem) I've installed two programs in which I've deleted since the time it happen. A Super User Permission app, the one that's gray and has the jolly roger look to it. The next one is Juice Defender. I notice the problem after I installed them that the phone will start restarting itself like every 3 or 5 minutes. I'll be in the middle of a phone call and it would go blank and restart. The only time I notice it doesn't do it is when I connect it to the computer while I have debug on and when I do a hard restart in which I pulled the battery out. The battery trick only lasts for about half a day. I installed those apps 4 days ago, both at the same time.
My phone info is:
Software #
1.32.651.1
Firmware version:
2.1-update1
please help!!!! it's driving me up the wall.

I'm no expert but it sounds like a rogue app to me. If my phone were doing that i would wipe it and start from scratch.
Just my thoughts.......

Wallabe said:
My phone info is:
Software #
1.32.651.1
Firmware version:
2.1-update1
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Try updating to one of the rooted 2.2 Froyo ROMs. Be sure to do a full wipe (data, cahe, dalvik-cache) before installing a new ROM, unless otherwise instructed. You're running an old software version of Eclair (current Froyo is 3.26.651.6). I've received considerably better battery life since the update to Froyo, especially with a custom ROM and custom kernel. I personally run both SetCPU and Juice Defender with no problems or any overheating issues.
Mostly it sounds like you have something locking your CPU usage at 100% which would explain the heat and battery drain. I suspect you may be having software conflicts using the old OS version. Do a Nandroid backup before flashing a different ROM so that you can rollback to your exact setup you currently have if you do not like the results of the updated ROMs.
And by all means, DO NOT flash an unrooted stock Froyo ROM (or take any OTA update). There still is no method to root that.

Yeah I have been debating the whole wipe the phone and start with the 2.2 OTA and wait till they root that. This is driving me mad, cause it's seems it knows when I need it the most. When I'm at the house it last and stay up like a champ, when I leave it starts acting up.
Which leaves me with the question how do you save the apps on your phone?

Wallabe said:
Yeah I have been debating the whole wipe the phone and start with the 2.2 OTA and wait till they root that. This is driving me mad, cause it's seems it knows when I need it the most. When I'm at the house it last and stay up like a champ, when I leave it starts acting up.
Which leaves me with the question how do you save the apps on your phone?
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Appbrain is a good way to manage apps. Any paid apps should still show up in your downloads section of the market after a hare reset. I have no battery problems with the ota 2.2 patiently waiting root. Don't know if I'll root when they do figure it out because its pretty stable with decent battery life for me.
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk

So today is Day Two since I changed the ROM. I have notice alot has changed, some things are new, and some things are working that never work before. It's like having a new phone all over again. LOL
I also use the instructions in the thread about battery life
Edit: I can't link it due to new user access. But its in the General fourm.
15 hours and I haven't plugged it up yet to recharge it yet I still have 60% left on the battery. I made 8 phones calls that lasted 2 mins and more, plus ran the music app and more.
I want to thank you guys for your help

Do you getting more then24 hours on a stock battery?
Do you keep 3g on and always connected checked?
You have to be a real light user

No sir.... by no means I'm I a light user. As I stated I use my phone pretty heavy and that was only day two that I done that.
Yes....I now get more then 24 hours out of the stock battery.
At 7am I unplug and jet out to work. I use my phone as a MP3 player for the car. 30 minute drive to and from. When at work I play games and make random phone calls for 9 hours of the day. SN: I'm doing my job also When I leave work I go to my gf's house which has no signal out there. I use to have to put it on Airplane Mode to save the battery. Now I just leave as is without changing it.
Total time using the phone in 24 hours: 14 hours
Times I charged my phone in 24 hours: 0
Battery Percent in 24 hours after 14 hours of use: 45%
Longest hours since unplugged: 2d 2h 4m 10s with a 50% life left.
Yes I keep my 3G on. I turn my GPS off and Background Data, Set the weather app or widget to update every 6 hours (Why would you need to know the weather every hour on the hour, Just press update when you open the weather app) along with other things I don't need running while I'm at work or even not using them.
This is with the OMJ Froyo 2.2 Rom update. The phone is still running smooth and as it should (in my opinion)
One minor but major problem to some I wish they would fix.
Multi-touch though out the whole phone. The Droid X, Incredible, and Nexus 1 has it.
Why can't we have it. I would be so happy if we can get that.

Crazy battery drain in just a few hours

Hello.
I've been searching various forums for a fortnight now to try and diagnose an SII issue I've been having and Google inevitably brings me here. Unfortunately, the numerous threads on battery drain don't match the problem I've had and the solutions haven't helped.
Around two weeks ago I noticed the battery life on my handset was really terrible, draining in hours. I had been using it quite a bit at the time so assumed this was the cause. However, lately it has been draining within around 6-10 hours even when idle, usually dying completely overnight despite a full charge just before then. I don't have a huge number of apps installed - maybe 20, fairly standard ones like Twitter, Facebook, Amazon, no games and no 'battery defender' style apps. It's not rooted (it's 4.0.3) and I can't root it for other reasons.
The battery drain was a nightmare, basically going from power point to power point just to keep it topped up enough to use and it was draining during idle time and deep sleep. I very rarely ever have 3G, GPS or Bluetooth switched on. Wireless is on most of the time and it generally does have a signal in the two places I spend most time (home and work). It also has a strong Vodafone signal since I'm living in a major city centre.
I tried a few things:
1. Uninstalled all but the most-used apps I had. No change.
2. Uninstalled everything it was possible to uninstall. No change.
3. Installed BetterBatteryStats and CPU Spy. BBS plus many hours of searching kernel/partial wakelocks and so on showed nothing that looked odd at all, certainly nothing taking up a lot of time or regularly stirring the phone. CPU Spy showed it did deep sleep when idle.
4. Factory reset. This included no app installations except BBS, disabling the likes of Social Hub, Gaming Hub and all other stock apps I could. No tethering or wifi sharing, no wifi, no 3G, no GPS, no Bluetooth, nothing running. It was basically a handset sitting there doing nothing. BBS showed nothing odd that I could see but the battery still drains in hours. No partial wakelocks and a tiny number of kernel wakelocks taking up next to no time and occurring a handful of times. No change.
5. I charged it before bed, took the battery out and left it until morning. In the morning it was down at 79%. This seemed weird so I bought a brand new genuine Samsung battery and gave that a try. No change in the 6-10 hour drain but taking the battery out overnight showed no drain now.
6. The weirdest of all. I charged it fully before bed, switched it off over night and it was drained completely by morning. That seems crazy to me. I can fully understand poor software or bugs draining a battery but not when a handset is switched off.
I am lucky enough to be able to get a new handset through work but this issue really annoys me. I took very good care of the phone, never installed anything crazy, didn't over charge it, the handset never got warm at any time, I'm careful with Wifi/GPS/Bluetooth/3G and location services, yet I ended up with an effectively useless "mobile" phone.
Is there anything that comes to mind that could have caused this? Point 5 above made me think it was simply a battery issue and maybe it partly was (with two batteries, how unlucky) but point 6 is just crazy. What could cause a handset to drain a battery under these circumstances?
Thanks for any advice!

Take the phone to Samsung Service Centre. No phone should drain that quick when un-rooted and a full wipe has been done

Sounds like tha battery is shot.
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same thing happened to me yesterday, heres what i have tried to do so far:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821094

Um...widgets? Some widgets on stock Samsung ROMs kills your battery - I remember AP mobile news is a huge drainer. Try limiting the number of widgets you put on your homescreens maybe?

Hi...
Try:
01 - Full Wipe
02 - Install a clean ROM
03 - Disable Fast Dormancy ( *#9900*# )
04 - I use the GreenBatterySaver
After post your result !

I sugges too full reflash the stock rom and after count the batter time. If it does not help, it cold be HW error too - maybe it isn't.

Battery drain fixed

Well I'm not sure what to make of this but here goes.
My wife and myself have both got n4 mine is black hers is white both sim free UK phones.
I've been checking every time I get home from work what her sot is and what percentage battery she has left against mine and she always wins.
Example my phone would have say 50% battery and 2.5 hours sot and my wife would have say 70% with 2.5 hours sot.
So I thought maybe it's because she's at home with good 3g radio and I'm in a medium 4G area at work?
I've been through every setting on both the phones to see if one had something turned on that the other didn't but no and in some cases she had more things on that me ie haptic feedback was on and mine was off on everything calls text messages everything.
I planned on swapping batteries to see if that was to fault.
But I decided to do a factory reset as the only hassle I would have would be to re enter my WiFi password and all my apps would download automatically which isn't a big deal.
And now as we speak or as I type I have 71% battery with 2hrs sot unplugged since 7.30am it's now 15.50.
So what has caused my battery to be so bad?
I've been through all my apps and there is nothing abnormal and my wife even had stupid ones like candy crush and talking Tom that she has to feed and take out for a pee!
Anyone else noticed that there battery has got worse ?

i had issues with lock ups and poor battery because of google services (google now in particular). i ended up removing all the services - uninstalling the updates (play, gmail, music etc) and then re applying them.
That was a week ago and since then the phone has been smooth and rapid without the silly lock outs.
ALSO, when booting i have to goto the multitask screen and end all otherwise i cannot get wifi and the phone runs like a dog for a while.
I hoping that these are fixed with the next firmware that im still waiting for in the uk