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The other day i surfed to google from my XDA exec.
mobile internet rocks!!
i was wondering how does google know that i surfed in from a pda, cause i think it sent me to
www.google.co.uk/pda
the web page probably detected your screen size and redirected you to a page that was more friendly to you PDA browser. i wish more sites would do this.
www.google.com/pda for us US residents.
LOL
Not the screen size but the type of your internet browser, in this case Pocket IE.
Correct--it's not the screen size.
Although a LOT of your information is sent over the wire, much more than most of us realize, your resolution information is unknown to most websites, unless you explicitly allow it to be given via some kind of an executable that transmits such information. An example would be an embedded ActiveX object in IE for Windows.
Back on topic, yes, your browser information is known, not only to Google, but to every other website you visit. Not only that, the website also knows where you came from (i.e. the http addy) and where you went when you left it. There's a whole bunch of information deemed to be private that we would rather keep to ourselves (such as our surfing habits) that's known to any website that installs a cookie (a common thing nowadays) on your computer.
This is also how Google knows where you are. For example, when I log on, Google send me to the local Saudi page at http://www.google.com.sa/ It knows this information by doing a reverse lookup on your IP address, and comparing it against known databases of geographically assigned IPs. Since IP addresses are assigned and tied to geographical locations, it's easy enough to do, although it's still very disconcerting to see.
Be careful folks, even your searching habits are being tracked by Google. I have nothing to hide, so I don't care, but many folks do. Witness the recent Federal inquiry into the searching habits of the users of major search engines. Yahoo and MSN gave up that information quickly enough but Google is resisting. I don't think it will be able to hold out for very long though.
Imagine...now the fact that you searched for p0rn on the 'net is well known to anyone in the know. Scary, isn't it?
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thanks monakh
so google can detect both my mobile ip address (is there such a thing?) and my browser, correct?
monakh said:
the website also knows where you came from (i.e. the http addy)
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Correct, through the referrer...
monakh said:
and where you went when you left it.
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Only if you click a link on the site itself, -and- it is handled via a special handler.
No information is sent to a website when you leave it through e.g. a bookmark in your browser, or by typing in a new URL.
Please correct me if I'm wrong
You are correct.
hey i mailed myself (google account) using my adsl modem and using the gprs/3g connection to check the header to see if i could spot an originating ip address
i found one common ip address
Received: by 10.xy.za.b with HTTP; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 05:34:45 -0800 (PST)
i guess this is the google server, correct?
is there any way to prise the originating ip address from an email
That's why there is a registry hack to set Pocket Internet Explorer works like Internet Explorer 6.0.
Tuningszocske said:
That's why there is a registry hack to set Pocket Internet Explorer works like Internet Explorer 6.0.
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Not entirely... I mean, you could - of course. But it also means that many sites will fail to send you PDA-specific content - which, with most plans/top-ups, means heavy costs.
Identifying PIE as IE6 is more used for stupid websites who check whether the browser is IE6 or above, regardless of whether that is actually required by the site.
There's three parts, the compatibility bit ('(Default) = Mozilla/4.0'), the browser string ('Version = MSIE 6.0') and the platform ('Platform = Windows NT 5.0'). If you leave the last bit intact ('Platform = Windows CE'), then you should still be able to get into stupid sites, while having PDA-friendly sites send you the PDA content.
oh i had not thought about the popups
i guess we wont get(suffer) popups with mobile ie5?
i just posted to this bulletin board to check my ip address
from the pc it looks like this 82.1a.bcd.efg
and fro my cda it looks like 193.abc.def.ghi
That's fine because presumably your mobile device and your home PC are on different networks so they sport different IPs.
IPs are a dead giveaway. In many cases, your position can be 'somewhat' and primitively triangulated to within 5 square miles of where you are. This may not be necessarily true for mobile networks, but those networks know where you are at all times anyway. In fact, there is now regulation in the US that mandates all handset makers to manufacture hardware with GPS functionality built-in. Between the two and a half dozen GPS satellites and your cellular network, you can run but you can't hide
This is, of course, so emergency services can reach you in time of need (in case you are unable to make the call to 911/999).
Of course...
monakh said:
This is, of course, so emergency services can reach you in time of need (in case you are unable to make the call to 911/999).
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Technically it's so they can find you if you do call 911/999/112/whathaveyou but are unable (due to injuries, or duress, etc.) to state your location.
Being able to find you at any time is an added perk but it needs court orders even if you have been reported and officially designated a "missing person". Getting such a court order can take many hours, being declared a missing person can take 24 hours up to 48 hours (depends on the country and exactly what reasons you have to believe the person in question is truely missing).
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monakh said:
This is, of course, so emergency services can reach you in time of need (in case you are unable to make the call to 911/999).
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Technically it's so they can find you if you do call 911/999/112/whathaveyou but are unable (due to injuries, or duress, etc.) to state your location.
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Ahh yes, I stand corrected.
It's so we CAN make the call and are unable to state the location. That WOULD make sense. However, like you said, there are legal hurdles, although at least in the U.S., they are fewer and far between.
is there any ip address list out there which tells me which ip addresses are allocated to which country?
are ip addresses bunched like telephone numbers
e.g. +1 is north america
+3 and +4 is europe
+96 & +97 middle east
nope, that's not how they work
organisations can get an IP from their service provider, who get blocks from their service providers, who get bigger blocks from places like RIPE, who in turn get huge blocks from ARIN.
But if it's a specific IP you're interested in, try VisualRoute
hi,everyone .this bother me for a long time I ask many times to get some help but no one can tell me how to resolve this.
I am in USA and use as T-MOBILE I have T-ZONE service I can use my phone online watch news you tube etc.but just msn can't online.anyone know how to fix that problem? please help on this one.thank you
no one know??! anyone live in usa have same problem??
dont know about USA. But for Vodafone NL you need to add a proxy server to your connection settings in order to get MSN to work. Maybe something like that is also needed for your provider
Some phone operators have blocked a lot of ports in order to limit capabilities of the lines. Perhaps only http port is open so MSN can't connect as it uses a specific port range to access its servers.
In France, SFR operator is acting like this, so I can't use MSN Messenger, except if I use its own specific software, which is not very attractive.
In my case MSN, Skype, don't work with proxy.
When I deleted proxy server everything works ok.
fring™
Is a mobile internet community and communication service that allows friends to connect, share experiences and enhance their online communities together.
Using your handset′s internet connection, you can interact with friends on all your favourite social networks including Skype®, MSN Messenger®, Google Talk™, ICQ, SIP, Twitter, Yahoo!™ and AIM®. You can listen to music with your Last.fm friends, check out what each other are up to on Facebook, receive alerts of new Google Mail™ and tailor make your very own fring by adding more cool experiences from fringAdd-ons™.
fring puts all your online friends into one, dynamic fringFriends™ buddy list, which is always connected so you can enjoy free calls and instant messaging with all your online friends, see their real-time status, and even find each other’s actual location.
fring makes your mobile the ultimate social device.
As well as it′s social appeal, fring also lets you make affordable local and international calls to landline and regular cellular numbers using your SkypeOut/SkypeIn account or almost any internet voice service (SIP) such as SIPNET, EuteliaVoIP, VoIPVoIP and VoIPTalk, even from non-SIP enabled handsets.
What′s more, fring does all the work for you, automatically logging you into your favorite WiFi hotspots so you save time and hassle without having to configure your WiFi access points each time.
As easy to download as a ringtone and simple to install and use, fring is PC-independent and does not require any dedicated hardware. All you need to use fring is a supported handset with internet connectivity and an internet data package or WiFi access.
fringsters and taking all of their internet communities mobile. More features will be added shortly.
I have created this thread and posted this app because I liked the most and wanted to share with all who might still not knowing about this app. You can also put your feedback here so that fring may hear you and may improve in future versions..........
Get more info here
Download :
EXE : Enjoy, Mirror.
Cab : Enjoy, Mirror.
Thanks for your feedbacks and testings..........
believers?nooo!!
just for the record>>>
Fring is realy a great app..BUT!!!!>>> nobody knows how it works outside of the good and stong network coveredge.
I talk about Dubai,and many other city like Dubai.My net is 24
24/7 and very expencive!BUT FRING GAVE ME NO SIGN OF FUNCTIONS>
At home in EU. works fine.If anybody knows whats wrong with 3G network,please share with me.HSDPA comes as well,BUT FRING DON T WORK!!!
well before some one tells me the wise idea to download the phone specific app,I KNOW IT!!my HTC jade is ok,and the app is good.Just don twork.
insane.I rather have msn and skype separately than having a program what occupies place and looks good,BUT DON T WORK!!
helios
What does fring wants me to register a fring account first to use all the other IMs?
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What does fring wants me to register a fring account first to use all the other IMs?
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Ya, We should first regsiter fring account within the device ( One time ) to use all other IMs.
Its 100% free app..........
Thanks and regards
important and fantastic
Dear ALL!!
As our senior member wrote earlyer,it is a truly amazing app.
Besides my problem,(happen to me) the program is working in EU or other modern countrys.Dubai is back in time with 20years in the communication yet.
The fantastic thing in Fring is that you belive it or not>> you don t need a sim card in your phone to use it!!
I advise you gyus to look at the youtube or google for the Fring videos!!You can be pretty surprised with the outcome!
Well,you def. need a strong wifi connection.!!!With 3G I don t guarantee full satysfaction!
Don t forget the phone specific download.On the Fring site,you need to find your own download cab.!
happy Fring helios
when on site of fring, no support for htc touch hd? Which version should i take then?
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when on site of fring, no support for htc touch hd? Which version should i take then?
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Download from my mirror or else select anyother htc devices ( i.e diamond ).
hmmm, just tried it, but it isn't very finger friendly... and no option to hide offline contacts....... it's got potential, but lacks user friendlyness
I just gave it another try too - and it still has the same annoying alert sound when receiving a chat msg! I can't find anyway to disable or change it other than muting my sound altogether with. If there was an option to change or disable the sound I might use it.
Skype or one of the others?
Thanks for the post.
So which is best and cheapest if I want to call
my folks thru fring to their cell phone, (but not smartphone): skype? Where can I find a comparison
of pros and cons between the different voice data internet systems? (I have a full data plan thru T-mobile, and use a Trinity wm5.)
green
is there a way to use fring with 3g WAP access?
in other words, for port 8080 only?
Screenshots?
Doesnt it work over GPRS? 3G? or WAP?... so it only works on wireless or while connected via activesync? O_O
starnge but happy
Heyyyahh All!
so many question about FRING.Why noone take a sneek wiev on youtube,or google,but the best is the Fring website.Planty answers,and even more pics films e.t.c are there.
When I met with this program first,I needed a free or at least cheap communication in Dubai!sorry FROM Dubai!Back to EU!
On 3G ,it works badly if you call your Mom!On wifi it needs a good signal.GPRS sometimes ok,but most of the week signals are just fine for chat!
The best option is to configure the SIP client.If you have voipbuster,it is easy!Check out the data on theyer website,and you can see what country is free to call?!!!!On the otherhand it is always free from computer 2 computer!!Or from Fring to another Fring user!
There is no cheaper tan FREE!!!!!
The annoying beep is there in the msg client.With the system sounds and noticication you can fine tune it.It is visible with HTC and some fresh Rom s !!
It is the IM client sounds in the notification setup.In the system setup tabell!
The connection is buffling stable on wifi,and it was specialy fantastic at the airports!!!Good to say helo I m alive for free!!The option to chat in the same time wit 6 different chat client is just great.
well: look at the website,and learn as I did.Find som wifi and Fring away!!!
helios
Checking it out
Thank Helios,
Good tips; will do. g
i have had this thing for a while.
at first they did not support bt headset, i don't know if it does now though. maybe they have updated it. I like it. definately recommend it,
BLOCKED in ETISALAT
heliosismagic said:
just for the record>>>
Fring is realy a great app..BUT!!!!>>> nobody knows how it works outside of the good and stong network coveredge.
I talk about Dubai,and many other city like Dubai.My net is 24
24/7 and very expencive!BUT FRING GAVE ME NO SIGN OF FUNCTIONS>
At home in EU. works fine.If anybody knows whats wrong with 3G network,please share with me.HSDPA comes as well,BUT FRING DON T WORK!!!
well before some one tells me the wise idea to download the phone specific app,I KNOW IT!!my HTC jade is ok,and the app is good.Just don twork.
insane.I rather have msn and skype separately than having a program what occupies place and looks good,BUT DON T WORK!!
helios
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ETISALAT UAE has blocked the website or IP for www.fring.com, which is required to authenticate the device before using other IM.
ASh
fring on etisalat
Ahdeshpande!!
You right,but as u probably know,etisalat in UAE. is just another fu..ng stupid company,who belives in fate,and the kingdom of communication!!
Well there are a number of softwares what u can use to go on any website in the world.!
Not proxy servers,but others!
just a few>> ghost surf,hotspot shild,ultra surf...This is a small list of softwares,u can use during sign up on the Fring site!!
I do,and work fantastic.After the sign up procedure it will work on your phone!
It is truly a pain in the a.... how etisalat try to control the web.But u know,it is uncontrollable,and with one of the above mentioned software,u can browse anything!!ANYTHING!!!
P.S the ultrasurf programm is attached.It is a good start for invisible browsing!HAVE FUN
helios
etisalat the bastardo!!!!
Please don t forget>>>> the u94 program works only on explorer.Not on mozzilla!!
So u can open now the Fring with explorer.After u unzipped the program u94,and setup is ok,please give a few seconds for bild up the vpn connection.Don t let the automatic site to come and load fully.It is not important.A Padlock appears on the lower left corner on your desktop,if the MEDICINE is ready to use.U can use for many other sites.If u need some hard sites,it isn t the strongest encryption.So it doesn t work for all sites,but many!!
helios
Hello
I use Fishtext on my HD2 however I am having some big ass problems with the GRPS setting. I think it is something to do with the JAVA (JBLEND) program.. Can any one help?
I get a message saying that is it unable to connect to the server. I am connected to the next.
Thank you
Can any one help
I have the best phone in the world and I cannot get Fishtext to work. Keeping on saying cannot connect. Check GPRS SETTING.
I have tried everything
Please help
do other programs work ok over gprs? can you surf the web? (turn off 3g to test )
FISHTEXT
Yes. I can do everything. Internet, skype, straming music.. You name it I can do it.. FISHTEXT. no..
does fish text require you to connect to a special server?
have you emailed fish text support? more likely to get an answer from them than from here.
Ip address
IT does connect to a special IP address. I have thought it my be the JAVA???
I have tried the support. Not very good at all.
just been to their site and they have a special page just for people with gprs problems. did you look through that?(it also means that chances are it isn't the phone at fault)
http://www.fishtext.com/GPRS/
hmmm sorry don't think I can help then. I get free texts in my contract so I've never used a service like fish text. sorry.
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hmmm sorry don't think I can help then. I get free texts in my contract so I've never used a service like fish text. sorry.
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Thank you for you help
Can anyone else shead some light on this problem
Ok Guy
Esmertec Jbed 20081203.2.1.cab works however it does not access the phonebook so you have put in the number manually.
This means its is the JM. Does any have all the latests JM JBLEND, JBED etc etc.
Thank you
Any one
I just need the JAVA cabc for windows mobile so I can test them all
Every now and again I run out of things to watch on my laptop when abroad, so I turn on the hotel TV and find myself watching the same BBC World news or CNN news reports over and over.
When that happens, I normally try and set up FoxyProxy so I can watch iP***er etc. I usually spend about an hour trying to get the damn thing working before giving up and heading to the minibar!
I have never, ever found a working UK internet enabled proxy in probably 4 years. I don't know if I am just not using Foxyproxy correctly, or if proxies are that hard to find.
Anyway, long story short... has anyone used a proxy server on the Vega. Is so, which software did you use and more importantly which proxy and how did you set it up?!
It is possible, but unfortunately that is illegal. You are not allowed to watch bbc iplayer outside of the uk. I think this might break the site rules, and a mod might close the thread. Giving you info on how to circumvent might get me into trouble too. Sorry i cant help, but rules are rules
Circumventing a corporations draconian T&C's have never seemed to be too much of an issue for XDA. If it was, I'm not entirely sure it would be in existence
Nonetheless, edited...!
PS - The irony of being warned about legality by a member with your username is not lost on me
Ah, ganjaman just uses hemp to make phone/tablet covers.
what else could one do with that plant?
back on topic, there must be ways of obtaining foreign proxies, which in itself isnt naughty. As you could use this for many reasons.
Or is it that ipla yer recognises that fact and blocks ones attempt?
If the request is about the player then, fine, not allowed, but surely the proxy question is valid?
Playing devils advocate.
Rgds
Lok
The problem I encounter is actually connecting to a valid proxy, before even typing in a URL. As I said, I don't know if its an issue with FoxyProxy or the list of proxies that I work my way through on Google.
I was hoping to hear that somebody had successfully connected to a proxy server using Android. I can then test it myself, then go off and find a valid UK proxy with the knowledge that at least the program works as it should!
Not sure if you have seen this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=766569. Just have to find a good proxy list. Works on are vegas
Asking the question in a different way is all you had to do. Sorry if you took it the wrong way, i just dont want xda dev to have illegal content, and worst being kicked out for suppling it.
As orlok said, i am in the uk, its cases for my tablet only
Unfortunately some countries have draconian laws, like here.