do u guys have to have task killer to but the setcpu in ignore list or is it better to have no task killer and let android os do it itself? tell us what you guys think? to get more battery life.
i have systempanel full version and process manager full version.
I am 100% sure this topic has been covered many times. Do a search.
Me, I never automate task killing (from time to time I kill a process manually), and my experience with SetCPU tought me it is useless. No improvement for my usage.
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I've read some posts and people said they are killing more battery.Other people said that they're good.So are they safe for your phone,or they can harm it.
I've used task killers since I got my phone and hadn't got a problem.
I found the answer by myself:
http://lifehacker.com/#!5650894/and...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
I tested ATK with 2.1 2.2.1 2.3.2 using my phone (Gps, 3g - ON) with same apk on board each ROM and modarate killing and my battery last longer without ATK.
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panoramixus said:
I tested ATK with 2.1 2.2.1 2.3.2 using my phone (Gps, 3g - ON) with same apk on board each ROM and modarate killing and my battery last longer without ATK.
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I got rid of my task killer.I will provide some feedback after some use.Thanks for the reply by the way.
its good n safe if u use it wisely
i ever killed a running system n my phone become frozen
I've been using AutoKiller Memory Optimiser which utilises presets and works well with rooted phones.
i think not
Task killers aren't necessary for Android 2.1 and above. Google has optimized the system so that if you run out of memory, it will start automatically killing unused apps in the background. Even though you might see that only around 20MB of RAM is available doesn't mean it's a bad thing. It means that you can load up your recently used apps more quickly as it is already "cached" in your memory.
Killing apps may also disrupt other system processes that require it to run properly. However, if you want to save that extra battery then a task killer is good to use. Otherwise, task killers are not necessary. I would recommended downloading an app called "Watchdog" in the market. What this app does is monitors your running apps for any memory hoggers. This allows you to kill that app or uninstall it.
This is just my thoughts and may not be entirely correct. Anyone wishing to correct me is welcome to.
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MegaBubbletea said:
Task killers aren't necessary for Android 2.1 and above. Google has optimized the system so that if you run out of memory, it will start automatically killing unused apps in the background. Even though you might see that only around 20MB of RAM is available doesn't mean it's a bad thing. It means that you can load up your recently used apps more quickly as it is already "cached" in your memory.
Killing apps may also disrupt other system processes that require it to run properly. However, if you want to save that extra battery then a task killer is good to use. Otherwise, task killers are not necessary. I would recommended downloading an app called "Watchdog" in the market. What this app does is monitors your running apps for any memory hoggers. This allows you to kill that app or uninstall it.
This is just my thoughts and may not be entirely correct. Anyone wishing to correct me is welcome to.
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Thanks for your reply.I also think that they aren't necessary.In the link above I read that task killers are dangerous for your phone.They are slowly killing your CPU and after some time the phone may start to crash.
Well i'm using a taskkiller and it doesn't do any harm.. And I think it makes my battery last longer.. But that might just be some kind of "placebo effect"
I personally don't use them on my phone, but on my tablet, I use them as it can get very slow without it.
Haque92 said:
Well i'm using a taskkiller and it doesn't do any harm.. And I think it makes my battery last longer.. But that might just be some kind of "placebo effect"
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I also thought that they were great,but after doing some research I decided to remove my task killer.My phone is working as smooth as before.But that's just me.
Anyone know which advance task killer is better?
Advanced Task Killer Pro by reChild or Advanced Task Manager Pro by Infolife.
Thanks.
akoni1p said:
Anyone know which advance task killer is better?
Advanced Task Killer Pro by reChild or Advanced Task Manager Pro by Infolife.
Thanks.
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I'm sure either will drain your battery like a mofo. I wouldn't recommend running a task killer at all.
This is one of the most persisting myths about android that you need a task killer. Maybe it was useful with 1.5 or 1.6 but with 2.2 and higher it is waste.
The best on it the one that you don't use. But if for some reason you feel compelled to kill a task, use the one built into android: Menu > Manage Apps.
I would recommend reading the thread 'android memory management' before using any task killer. Link to it is in my signature.
diablo009 said:
I would recommend reading the thread 'android memory management' before using any task killer. Link to it is in my signature.
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What I still don't understand is why Motorola integrated a task killer in Blur. I get now always this annoying popups that google voice uses battery etc even though I have not one application in the auto kill folder.
mgymnop said:
What I still don't understand is why Motorola integrated a task killer in Blur. I get now always this annoying popups that google voice uses battery etc even though I have not one application in the auto kill folder.
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Exactly! That's the point. If an application uses too much battery when phone is in sleep it pops this up. Esp useful when u r sleeping. Add the app to auto-kill list, and if it realizes it as a memory hog, it will auto-kill it.
I was logged in into gvoice the other day and there was a heavy messages transfer in n out, and that is when the popped up the message. I added it to auto-kill list, and started to save a ton of battery. When I wake up in the morning, I see it starting to work again. I am not sure how this killing/starting takes place, but its saving me a ton of battery esp at nights.
Edit: U can always freeze this in TiBu.
I'm no expert in android but I sell cellphones. When people have problems on android they like to come in and complain. I find a task killer on most of the buggy phones. The customer usually admits that they kill tasks several times per day. It's not exactly scientific, but I'd say there is a correlation between task killing and buggy phones.
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Well I had to create this thread. I am using ATk for last three days and it is doing a great purpose to save juice of my battery. But I saw these articles and now I am scared that if I should use ATK or not? There is no performance decrease I've noticed so far after using ATK. So what should I do, uninstall ATK as it could harm my device or keep using it as practical view is greater than technical one.
Please read these, and comment back on the same. I'll eagerly wait for you guys to response.
1- FAQ: Why You Shouldn’t Be Using a Task Killer with Android
2- AndroidSPIN Why you don’t need a task killer app with Android.
3- Android Task Killers Explained: What They Do and Why You Shouldn't Use Them
Regards.
Sure, it might be unnecessary if all things were running normally, but like in my original thread stated, it is the only way to ensure rogue cached processes are completely closed out... unless you like doing it manually everytime.
No, it won't harm it though... if you are asking if it will melt your SGSII over time. Silly question to be honest.
Thanks for your response mate. Well it's very easy to use a Task Killer app like ATK rather than manually killing cached processes. I am sure that a software will definitely not melt my GS II but could there be any problem with memory management? What could be the problem actually?
It won't harm your phone but it might become a little less responsive, because program need to be loaded again and the battery might drain a little quicker using ATK especially when you use autokill because some programs autostart and they keep on restarting and being killed...
It depends on which task killer you use how much battery (if any noticeable difference) it will drain.
Auto kill features should be turned off.
Well I use Auto Kill feature in ATK. In fact after using it there is at least no more non-synchronization of Awake and Screen On bar and that helps a lot to save battery. Frankly I don't see any other option but to not use it. Built in Task manager is not capable of doing a good job, so ATK is the option or the only option left! So I wonder why shall not use it!
Guyz, i found a way which helps increase battery life on CyanogenMod by Marcel(THNX to him).
I was wondering whether an app closes when we press back button,so i needed a task manager,but cyanogen doesn't have a task manager so i downloaded one from market and so many apps were open ,almost all apps were open.
So i killed them all and battery life has pretty much increased since then.
Also i set some profiles in setcpu and in the task manager to kill unnecessary active apps every 30mins.
Both these methods combined....i am getting a good battery life.
However the battery drain on internet still doesn't solve.However the overall battery backup has increased.
Also check this out:Install a task manager(i downloaded advanced task manager)then restart your phone then as soon as the phone starts check out the number of active apps on task manager.Almost all are open.Hope Marcel fixes this bug
My battery now is at 70% after 12 hours from 100%...(i browsed facebook for some time and listend to 12-15 songs on headphone) and that too i didn't charge the 100% fully,so we can hope for more battery backup.
If anyone has any other ideas to increase battery life on cyanogenmod plz post here
vivekdumbre said:
Guyz, i found a way which helps increase battery life on CyanogenMod by Marcel(THNX to him).
I was wondering whether an app closes when we press back button,so i needed a task manager,but cyanogen doesn't have a task manager so i downloaded one from market and so many apps were open ,almost all apps were open.
So i killed them all and battery life has pretty much increased since then.
Also i set some profiles in setcpu and in the task manager to kill unnecessary active apps every 30mins.
Both these methods combined....i am getting a good battery life.
However the battery drain on internet still doesn't solve.However the overall battery backup has increased.
Also check this out:Install a task manager(i downloaded advanced task manager)then restart your phone then as soon as the phone starts check out the number of active apps on task manager.Almost all are open.Hope Marcel fixes this bug
My battery now is at 70% after 12 hours from 100%...(i browsed facebook for some time and listend to 12-15 songs on headphone) and that too i didn't charge the 100% fully,so we can hope for more battery backup.
If anyone has any other ideas to increase battery life on cyanogenmod plz post here
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Advanced task manager is not recommended by many devs in various different forums for some reason it's not good for the phone.
may i know why is it harmful to the phones?never heard of this before!!
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may i know why is it harmful to the phones?never heard of this before!!
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Maybe Google can help. I just know its not recommended
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Take a look on this page... It's a good explanation
lifehacker[dot]com/5650894/android-task-killers-explained-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
sry for this stupid link, but as I'm new here, I'm not able to post third-party-links...
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http://lifehacker.com/5650894/android-task-killers-explained-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
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Here u go
One basic point is that Android will automatically open certain apps by default. When you kill these apps the task killers claim they will stay killed but because Android opens them by default they will be launched again so this cycle of killing and re-launching apps will just continue which will use up more battery instead of conserving it.
settings --> applications --> Development --> Stop app via long-press.
You can always chek this option, so you know that you close all applications everytime you use them.
I will recomend you Auto Memory Manager. You can modify the values in that android stars to close process.
Y use it on agressive mode, and always have around 80-90 mb free of RAM memory (less apps open == fasther phone == less memory used
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i think using task killers is not a good idea.
we can use task manager (default app) it is better than any other app
What are your opinions on task killers, I know that they cause a bit of battery drain since it relaunches apps. But do they actually speed up your phone?
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What are your opinions on task killers, I know that cause a bit of battery drain since it relaunches apps. But do they actually speed up your phone?
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They're pretty worthless and probably do more harm than good. You won't see any speed up.
Since lollipop theyve been pretty redundant.
I just use greenify nowadays along side Amplify and im getting days out my battery
Task killers kill tasks that afterwards turn around and re-enable themselves anyway. There's more battery wasted on the killing of the task then actually saved by leaving the OS manage the system.
Also killing running tasks may end with data loss or corruption.
Not exactly a task killer, but I really like Chainfire's "Recently". It allows you to automatically keep your recent app list free from clutter.
Also using gravity to "Kill foreground app" on long-press-back is a must have feature. When you accidentally hit the wrong app and pandora starts blasting in a meeting, being able to quickly kill the app is essential.
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Task killers kill tasks that afterwards turn around and re-enable themselves anyway. There's more battery wasted on the killing of the task then actually saved by leaving the OS manage the system.
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Prevent Running (xposed) can remedy this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-prevent-running-greenify-supporting-t2757969
A while back, I used Clean Master. It gave you that placebo effect that it was actually doing wonders for your phone. But really, it may speed up your phone for a little while, but then it just feels like normal and you end up noticing the junk you just cleaned built up again. They're pretty much worthless, other than a one time use to delete some obsolete stuff, because Android runs itself fine. I recommend apps like Amplify, Powernap, etc if you want to save battery.