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**Please develop this clever people**

I'm sure many people here agree that it's very annoying when you're speaking on the phone and your ear accidentally opens up windows and programs or even worse - ends the call!
Surely one of you very clever chaps can make an app that uses the light sensor so that the Diamond knows you are speaking and therefore locks the screen.
It would help so much,
S.

The clever people already did it but because we, normal people, are too lazy to search through, can´t see it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425650
...and this is just one example

I'm aware of this software but how does it work within phonecalls? I'm not talking about when the phone rings, I mean post-unlock during the phonecall...

read the post man, it`s not very large and you will find it like I did

The program doesn't do what I describe above, although the idea is brought up a few times in the thread. It can switch off the screen but i'm talking about the light sensor doing this automatically...

The Diamond already turns off the screen when you hold it to your ear (by using the light sensor)...

I thought the diamond shut off the screen on speaking/connecting the call? Plus, it doesn't turn back on without pressing the power button...

the light sensor is not sensitive enough for this use.

:-( Damn! That's a shame.

Blazeitup123 said:
the light sensor is not sensitive enough for this use.
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Interesting, the light sensor of my phone can do this. Initially, the screen turned off whenever I picked up a call. I found it annoying because many a times, I need to use the screen to key in some numbers (pin, a/c numbers, whatever). Then, I used Adv. Conf. to turn this feature off. And I found it even more annoying as I actually hanged up twice by my ear accidentally touching "end call" button. Now, I turned this back on again.... still annoying but less....
I think your light sensor should be able to do this. Maybe you can check this feature on Adv. Conf. to see if it's turned off by accident.

The only things that were turned off in adv.config were 'sleep during call' and 'fast sleep'. I have switched these on and the screen does switch off but is this due to the light sensor? I now use S2U2's feature to switch the screen off as it's faster (screen switches off on connection)...
But, with all these options, I also find it annoying when I have to key in my pin etc. That's why utilising the light sensor so when you take the phone away from your face it switches back on, would be great.

this is really funny! some ppl want this thing off and some ppl want this thing on.
for the record:
the diamond is by default switching off the screen after a few seconds. when i said the diamond i meant the light sensor.
now, from the history:
long, long time ago (about 3-4 months ) the devs here were trying to switch off this feature because if you have to dial one more number or want to switch yr speaker you'll face a black screen (just touch the middle/enter button and you are back in business). some said it is the light sensor, some said it is a timer.....mostly they tried by registry tweaks, don't even remember who was the first to succeed but it was a great victory ...hahahaha
today we have a few options. one of them (the most popular one i think) is schap's advanced configuration. another was is the famous twaek 3.2 (today is 5?).
on the last month we have a few ROMs that already had this tweak built in. i think our friend here has one of those ROMs of them (because he ha sit tweaked already).
m8 i think you can switch this option back to default (switch off the screen) with the advanced config tool.
this one is an example (i think this one was the first):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2278799&postcount=1-tweak no 8.
you can also look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406151&highlight=screen+call
or this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406094&highlight=screen+call
one more:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415356&highlight=screen+call
and so on ....everything a search away (i used "screen+call")

Thanks for the post, my issue wasn't how to get the screen off during a call. It was what causes it to go off and if it is the light sensor, could an app be made so that when the phone is taken away from your face, the screen switches on again.

I agree. I would love it to switch off as default, but also TURN ON when I pull the phone away from my face... I can't understand why this is not the default behaviour. I have some time later on this month I will look at this more carefully and possibly program the solution.

Sprint Diamond
I agree that would be great. My screen on my Sprint Diamond has never turned off during a phone call. I didn't even know that was a feature on some diamonds until this thread. I have tried making a call and then covering the light sensor but nothing happens. So, here is my vote for the ability to get a screen that turns on and off as you put it to your ear and take it away.

just work exactly the same as iphone and the problem will be solved.......

Screen not going off in a call!!!

Hy all
I have a strange problem with my X10! The will not go off in a call! (or at least most of the times it won't) The sensors should turn the screen off while the phone is to to my ear but most of the time it will not!
There is a hidden menu that have tests for almost every hardware component but the test for the proximity sensor only shows that the sensor is OFF and won't do the test!
Ideas?

The sensor is the little black circle (sort of) above and to the left of the "n"
e.g. Sony Ericsso'n'
Have you tried putting your finger over it during the test?

same problem here i tried the finger-trick doesnt work

I tried it and the test shows ON while my finger is there! So the sensor works properly but why the dialer is not using it to control the screen?

As stated before, if you cover the 'hole', the screen would not react to any of your finger touches. The screen would still be on but would turn off according to your settings (like 30 seconds or 1 minute or whichever). Try it. Call someone, cover the hole and try to hit 'end call' or slide up the keypad and then cover the hole and try to hit numbers.

The purpose of the proximity sensor is to turn the screen off in a call while the phone is to your ear! if i cover the sensor it must turn the screen off! but it doesn't! There is some kind of timeout set to this! The screen will turn off but after some time! this makes the proximity sensor almost useless!

No, it is to disable touchscreen buttons. It will turn off when time you've selected is over and turn on again and enable touch buttons when you take the phone out from your face.
Though i think you're right, it should turn the screen off to save battery, it is silly to have the screen on when you are using it.
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Zenghelis said:
No, it is to disable touchscreen buttons. It will turn off when time you've selected is over and turn on again and enable touch buttons when you take the phone out from your face.
Though i think you're right, it should turn the screen off to save battery, it is silly to have the screen on when you are using it.
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Quite right!
I guess the expectations are again set by Apple's standards. Their proximity sensor functions as one would expect.
However the sensor on the X10 does what it was designed to do, and that's to deactivate the touchpad whilst the device is held up to your ear.
The screen timeout is a different setting all together (unfortunately).

Baggyb said:
Quite right!
I guess the expectations are again set by Apple's standards. Their proximity sensor functions as one would expect.
However the sensor on the X10 does what it was designed to do, and that's to deactivate the touchpad whilst the device is held up to your ear.
The screen timeout is a different setting all together (unfortunately).
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Not the expectation set by Apple. It's expectation for any right minded individual.
SE software is just well known as one of the worst top players in the industry.
FFS, they spent all the time on DRM, lock the phone, developing battery hungry useless software on 1.6 rather than push out 2.1 asap, that tells you something.

superprelude said:
Not the expectation set by Apple. It's expectation for any right minded individual.
SE software is just well known as one of the worst top players in the industry.
FFS, they spent all the time on DRM, lock the phone, developing battery hungry useless software on 1.6 rather than push out 2.1 asap, that tells you something.
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Why not go through the Manual once before abusing Company left - right.....
Let me copy and paste it for you guys........
Sensors
Your phone has two built-in sensors – a light sensor and a proximity sensor. The light sensor is used for automatic LCD backlight control. The proximity sensor turns the touch screen off when your face touches the screen. This prevents you from unintentionally activating phone functions when you are engaged in a call.

TechGuru_x10 said:
Why not go through the Manual once before abusing Company left - right.....
Let me copy and paste it for you guys........
Sensors
Your phone has two built-in sensors – a light sensor and a proximity sensor. The light sensor is used for automatic LCD backlight control. The proximity sensor turns the touch screen off when your face touches the screen. This prevents you from unintentionally activating phone functions when you are engaged in a call.
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Yes and this is plain stupid use of the sensor! Take the HD2 for instance! Its proximity sensor turns the screen off the second you take the phone to your ear! This is done with every HTC device having the sensor! It is just misused on the X10! I hope that somebody here would correct this with a little program some day!

OrionBG said:
Yes and this is plain stupid use of the sensor! Take the HD2 for instance! Its proximity sensor turns the screen off the second you take the phone to your ear! This is done with every HTC device having the sensor! It is just misused on the X10! I hope that somebody here would correct this with a little program some day!
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This is the main problem with us ,,, we start to compare and complain rather than think why did SE will give two sensors instead of one.
Answer is not known to me but this much I know they know better than us.
If you think you know better, be my guest and throw some knowledge here. I am new to Android but not to SE.

So im new to the forums, but I was having a problem with the proximity sensor...
As stated in a lot of threads, the proximity sensor does work and will "lock" the screen so that once your face is near the screen it will not allow any clicking of the buttons.
Also the screen is supposed to turn off about 15sec into the call. Mine turned off, but then all of a sudden turned on again...this would happen repeatedly.
I found out the solution...it seems advance task killer was not allowing the screen to turn off.
I had auto kill enabled and set it to when the phone was locked to kill apps.
I turned off auto kill, and everything seems to be working fine with the screen and proximity sensor now..
hope this helps anyone having this issue!

thx, same problem here !!

so its pretty clear none of us know the answer to this, but yet we're still bashing each other. LOL! ppl let's get constructive, we dont have the answers so lets accept the fact and seek help some where else.

o2 Germany told me, that Sony Ericsson will bring us an update within the next 4 weeks to all devices.
It will be an update with alot of bug fixes (e.g. proximity sensor ) and speed improvements.
So, be cool. Sony Ericsson is working on that and with Eclair in autumn, our battery will perform very well.

Screen stays off throughout the call.

Hey friends,
I am facing this problem while making calls that as soon as I press call button or receive button(while taking call) the screen turns off n stay that way till the call ends.
I have tried pressing all hardware buttons,even moved the dvp awayfrom me n into direct light but to no avial.though it did turn on once or twice out of twenty times.
Did anyone else experience this? Any suggestions are welcome..
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Do you have a screen protector or case that is obscuring the light sensor or proximity sensor? My first guess is that something is obscuring one or both, because during a call the screen being off is a feature.

Arcarsenal said:
Do you have a screen protector or case that is obscuring the light sensor or proximity sensor? My first guess is that something is obscuring one or both, because during a call the screen being off is a feature.
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i know about this feature n still have that plastic skin on the screen i'll remove it n check again don't think it d block light but then wats the harm?

screen stays black/off during call
The screen stays black during a call and this happens ramdomly. I have a dell venue pro a t mobile phone but it is a pre release so it works on att 3g and all. I have switched the sd card with no improvement. I have ordered a transender 32 gb sd that I haven't received yet. The firmware version 2250.1400.7004.025 hardware is 112.576.2.0 radio soft 2.2.50.14 radio hard 8250. I have been unable to get any of the hardware keys to hang up the phone which if I get voicemail or something means I have to power the phone down to get the dang thing to hang up. Sometimes it works fine but I cant find a commonality software or hardware that causes this. It happens right out of the box so even after a software reset it can happen. Is there any solution for this issue?
I can't understand why the button on top doesn't hang it up.
PS I got this phone for free and I got ripped off LOL

wow just got a replacement phone today and im having this problem, As soon as I go to make a call the screen goes black and cant do anything on screen during the call, so i cant enter my password when checking voicemail

I think it's related to the proximity sensor. When you put the phone close to your head, the screen switches off. When you move it away, it will switch on - most of the time .
If it stays black, have you tried tapping the power button on the top of the phone? It switches the screen on without disconnecting your call.

A coworker got a replacement the other day(they send a refurb) phone and it had the same problem. Had to go through Twitter to get Dell to send him a new retail phone since they had send him 3 refurbs prior and they all had different issues.

This is just a general statement regarding phone proximity sensors. I have had multiple phones made by different manufactures that experience this to some degree (including the Venue Pro). One thing that I have noticed is that if the phone goes from your face directly into a bright light (outside is most common) it will keep the screen shut off but if the sensor is somewhat shaded it will resume normal function.

I got the same problem too and while it may be a proximity sensor problem, it is not controllable on the user's end. Unless the phone call disconnects magically, a battery pull is necessary.
I'm gonna be on my third one soon and I hope that i won't face the same problem.
magicsquid said:
I think it's related to the proximity sensor. When you put the phone close to your head, the screen switches off. When you move it away, it will switch on - most of the time .
If it stays black, have you tried tapping the power button on the top of the phone? It switches the screen on without disconnecting your call.
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Yes i recently got a new refurbed phone and this problem has arised. Complained to Dell and they are going to send me a Brand new DVP. I see a lot of people having this same issue with the refurbs. Currently Dell is out of new DVP due to them upgraing the firmware, so I have to deal with a broke phone till the end of August. Talk about a dissatisfied customer. Im thinking about selling this brand new unit when I get it, hopefully Toshiba has their device out by then

This is a Proximity Sensor issue. You can fix it though in the EM app. You can adjust the sensor readings and the phone will function like normal. Let me know if you need the values or a step by step!

theusername said:
This is a Proximity Sensor issue. You can fix it though in the EM app. You can adjust the sensor readings and the phone will function like normal. Let me know if you need the values or a step by step!
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please explain because im getting frustrated

theusername said:
This is a Proximity Sensor issue. You can fix it though in the EM app. You can adjust the sensor readings and the phone will function like normal. Let me know if you need the values or a step by step!
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A step by step would be awesome. I like being able to see the screen during a call.

1) Get the EM app, if you dont have it dial ##634# into the dialer
2) Get into the advanced menu by double tapping the black area and typing in "qwertyuiop"
3) Select "RD test", now enter *#6336# in the box that pops up.
4) Select "Sensors", and the "Proximity Sensor Config"
5) Set the following to these:
LED strength - 1
Diode select - 2
Pulse Count - 43
6) Hit set and then you are good to go!
I have noticed that one of my DVP's needs to have this put in again everytime I reboot the phone, the other saves it. Just an FYI for ya!

I get to step 3 and when i clock on RD test, I am prompted with a white box with blue trim and an X at the top right. can you advise on how to proceed?

Oh yeah, Im sorry I forgot that part. Enter *#6336# as the password.

When I dial *#634# it says thic code is not supported.
What does that mean?
I put in a different number combo before and it put me in the EM screen

937dytboi said:
When I dial *#634# it says thic code is not supported.
What does that mean?
I put in a different number combo before and it put me in the EM screen
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Try ##634#, Im made a typo there and put a * the first time.

did the steps and it didnt work for me am i doing something wrong

937dytboi said:
did the steps and it didnt work for me am i doing something wrong
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I dont know, you could just have a defective phone. I know thats hard to believe that from Dell.....

Always on 2nd screen in the dark issue ??

I bought a used V20 with a defective screen. I change it, everything work for fine, but i notice a strange behaviour with the second screen.
The second screen is always on and i can unlock it by only touching the finger print sensor. BUT at night (or in the dark), the second screen turn off and i need to press 2 times on the power button to wake the phone.
The Knock On feature doesn't work too in the dark.
The light sensor seems to work correctly.
I would love to post a video but i can't......
This is an issue or it is normal ??
Thanks for your help !

Sounds like Doze.

I don't find anything related to Doze or "standby" about this screen.

check "daily timeout" on Show when main screen off. Seem u turn this function on at night
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I bought a used V20 with a defective screen. I change it, everything work for fine, but i notice a strange behaviour with the second screen.
The second screen is always on and i can unlock it by only touching the finger print sensor. BUT at night (or in the dark), the second screen turn off and i need to press 2 times on the power button to wake the phone.
The Knock On feature doesn't work too in the dark.
The light sensor seems to work correctly.
I would love to post a video but i can't......
This is an issue or it is normal ??
Thanks for your help !
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thophan1975 said:
check "daily timeout" on Show when main screen off. Seem u turn this function on at night
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Don't seems to change anything
Could it me the last security update ??
I reset the phone today and same "issue"

David_26 said:
Don't seems to change anything
Could it me the last security update ??
I reset the phone today and same "issue"
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Sounds like there is an issue with the proximity sensor (not light sensor).
It's setup to turn the second screen off as well as disable knock on if the phone is in your pocket. Even during daylight hours if you put your finger within an inch of the sensor when the main screen is off, it should trigger it.
It seems your sensor may just be messed up.

David_26 said:
Don't seems to change anything
Could it me the last security update ??
I reset the phone today and same "issue"
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There are a few apps on the play store you can try to fix it if you are rooted. You could also try a sensor app to see if the proximity sensor is showing feedback properly although you might need to be rooted for the apps to show the proximity sensor properly (not sure). My note 4 had a hardware test in the service menu not sure how to do it on V20 though.

Same Issue
Edit: Resolved the issue. Please read this post. There is a small rubber gasket-type thing that sits in the hole of the phone's frame where the proximity sensor is positioned. That rubber gasket was not included with my replacement screen. I pulled the rubber piece out of my original, broken screen, and installed it into my replacement screen. I am no longer having issues with the phone in the dark.
I am experiencing the same issue. I have a T-Mobile LG v20 (H918) and I cracked the screen last week. I ordered a replacement LCD assembly and installed it myself. Everything works fine during the day or in a well lit room, but at night, in a dark room, I experience all of the issues you are reporting. I am finding other posts online with our same issue, but as of yet, no resolution.
Even though the second screen is set to always be on, at night, in a dark room, it turns off almost immediately after locking the phone. It is almost as if the phone is in a "deep sleep" or something, because the following also occurs:
Knock On will not wake the phone
Fingerprint sensor will not wake the phone
Even connecting to the phone via AirDroid / AirMirror the phone doesn't wake
Need to press the power button multiple times to wake phone
Providing a light source immediately turns on second screen and resolves all issues

Unintended taps during call: how to prevent them?

Hi!
I"m not the only having the problem: during a call unintended taps takes place while screen waking up is not registered during the call. So, you see, I'm not sure a proximity sensor is the reason of the problem as far as screen is kept turned off.
I have tried to reproduce the issue by fingers, but wasn't lucky.
Have you any ideas how to eliminate the problem?
I mean not-rooted official up-to-date stock firmware use case.
And, by the way, I haven't found proximity sensor calibration in service menu for A1. Is it placed somewhere into another place?

That happens to me all the time too.

Yup, me too. While in call I sometimes unknowingly turn on the flashlight and probably look like an idiot. ?

With the rn3p I would constantly end up muted. With mi a1 the problem is much less although I've noticed that numbers are still pressed. I've learned over time to switch to keypad so when something gets touched it's not the mute and at worst the other person receives some key tones.

I also have this problem a lot. I mute myself 9/10. To bypass to problem, I just lock the screen before placing it against my ear.

Yes, a simple soutions is just when you call someone, imidiately press power button to lock the screen (no password or fingerprint requred to unlock)

dejano said:
Yes, a simple soutions is just when you call someone, imidiately press power button to lock the screen (no password or fingerprint requred to unlock)
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That's what I've been doing. That and pushing the top part of the mobile on my face just to make sure. lol
Oh and use the Feedback app and send it to xiaomi and hope they fix it on the next update.

i had this problem too, has it been fixed in the latest of updates? its a really annoying bug.

You must be doing something wrong. This issue "must" have been in all smartphone operating systems in the world, if what you are saying is the truth.
There's no way to drop the call, or press anything while you are calling someone. The proximity sensor doesn't allow turning on the screen when it's close to an object. The gyroscope also turns off the screen when you rotate the phone vertically during a call.
But all I can say is that it's not a bug, this is how is your phone knows when you are in a call, and you put your phone to your ear, or when you use your "speaker", and so the phone knows it's supposed to used it's speaker to transfer voice through the call.
Beside my poor English, try to move your phone a bit vertically before putting it close to your ear.

same problem here, also disabling ambient display... i also tested proximity sensor with some apps and it seems ok

I have that problem too from the beginning. None of the updates came up with a solution

Same here: I mute, turn on the flashlight or even open apps sometimes with my face. And thanks for the input @SmallTarzan but i know how to operate a smartphone and did not have any similar problems for the last five years. Apart from that annoying bug it's a great phone.

Wow, i dont know of this bug since i'm using custom rom from very beginning.
Try to make a call then use your hand to cover top part of the phone, screen doesn't lock??

I am having this issue too and it is really annoying

And still nobody came up with a solution???
It's easy to understand why it happens.
Proximity activates while you're in a call, but apparently the touchscreen digitizer remains working (even though the screen is off). Touching the digitizer with your ears or cheeks activates different actions while you think your screen is locked.
I can't believe how this issue is not fixed yet! That's a shame!
Same applies for the network fluctuation issues. You need to either choose 3G or 4G to avoid loosing your data connection.
Xiaomi that's more than LAME! You need to be ashamed of yourselves.

It happens to me quite often, although not always.
It's more frequent during long calls. If the call lasts for less than a minute or so, it doesn't happen.
Proximity sensor works, and screen turns off as soon as I put it at my ear.
Keyboard is off and not responding for a while. Then, all of a sudden the phone comes alive.
In my case it's not the torch. What I activate unknowingly is the handsfree loudspeaker, which can be even more embarrassing, sometimes.
Maybe it's because I am left-handed.
In an attempt to have the proximity sensor fully covered by my face, I tried to make calls by holding the phone with my right hand, but to no avail, after some time the screen wakes up regardless of everything.

Happens to me too. Although I did notice some differences regarding the position of the phone on my ear or which side of my head I put the phone on, I started pressing the power button long ago to turn the screen off. It may not be ideal, but it takes care of it.

AlaiSalaam said:
Happens to me too. Although I did notice some differences regarding the position of the phone on my ear or which side of my head I put the phone on, I started pressing the power button long ago to turn the screen off. It may not be ideal, but it takes care of it.
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Try this app, some users say it helps.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ss.proximityservice

Any fixes yet?

simontol said:
Any fixes yet?
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None, same sh**