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xperia x10 final doubt

hello
today i'm going to buy my new phone because i've sold yesterday my samsung i8910. i was going on the htc desire but i've see that xperia is already rootable. thanks to that. can you tell me if now, with the root, we will have2.1 sooner than we expect and custom roms? the hardware of the xperia is better than the desire but i was going on the desire because of the faster and more actual os. thanks

The X10 is NOT rooted yet people working on it but it is difficult.

so what's your opinion, should i go for the xperia and wait for the root or should i buy the desire?

nosidefcp said:
so what's your opinion, should i go for the xperia and wait for the root or should i buy the desire?
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its risky. the X10 might never get rooted. however.
X10 rooted = million times better than desire/nexus
X10 not rooted = POS you should avoid. unless the phone design is the only thing matters to you

I have my hopes up for the froyo petition, especially answer to that. Ofc nothing confirming but atleast it was'nt a defenitive no.. still, if you want an up to date phone X10 is not your choice as of right now. Sad thing couse its one damn fine device and im pleased with it, but ofc i'd like to see some updates soon
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serious hardware that is crippled by an outdated OS. if it would get 2.1 or if the OS gets a fix for the laggy interface, i would say it's a good buy.
you should wait and see what's up.
because if this phone is rooted, it's a different ball game.

So, what ods am i looking?i'm afraid i buy the desire and tomorrow the x10 gets rooted. Lol. I've read that paul is working on this. Should i have hope on paul?

nosidefcp said:
So, what ods am i looking?i'm afraid i buy the desire and tomorrow the x10 gets rooted. Lol. I've read that paul is working on this. Should i have hope on paul?
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You must have hope in people

think you should give yourself a timeline
if paul is not able to root and SE is not giving a better announcement before your timeline
then you give up x10
for us user with a X10 already we can only pray=..=

gaolinde said:
think you should give yourself a timeline
if paul is not able to root and SE is not giving a better announcement before your timeline
then you give up x10
for us user with a X10 already we can only pray=..=
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sorry but is paul even working on the phone? from what i understood he doesnt even have the phone and people were thinking to buy him one.

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for us user with a X10 already we can only pray=..=[/QUOTE said:
WE DO........... we don't have anything else to do
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lol SE have alot to answer for what a let down. Mind you I think if SE announced another fantastic android handset to be launched, with better specs then x10, i fear most people would probably fall for that aswell.

people need to stop moaning . x10 does everything it needs to do and does it great. the only lag is when using timescape (and se promise to fix this in the next update as they managed to make it not lag on the x10 mini and mini pro). i dont use timescape anyway
with the htc ime keyboard my x10 is great. i will only start feeling let down when everyone else is getting 2.2 and working flash. at the moment though im having no problems at all with SEs version of 1.6
also got to consider that x10 is about £100 cheaper than a desire/nexus one
root will come

Unless the prices have dropped the last i checked x10 was more expensive then desire.

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
sorry but is paul even working on the phone? from what i understood he doesnt even have the phone and people were thinking to buy him one.
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I think he is you may check his twitter

andy8271 said:
people need to stop moaning . x10 does everything it needs to do and does it great. the only lag is when using timescape (and se promise to fix this in the next update as they managed to make it not lag on the x10 mini and mini pro). i dont use timescape anyway
with the htc ime keyboard my x10 is great. i will only start feeling let down when everyone else is getting 2.2 and working flash. at the moment though im having no problems at all with SEs version of 1.6
also got to consider that x10 is about £100 cheaper than a desire/nexus one
root will come
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you really not experience any lag at all in lock screen?
and for why x10 mini is not lagging there's a thread already told us it's the different of resolution make x10 mini smoother than x10 and I'm convinced.
and man if you can get a x10 cheaper than a nexus one for £100 get me 1 please i'll more than happy to have one

i've checked paul's twitter and i've seen is last message saying "Gah, every time I think i've cracked the X10 root, it slips away! :-(
about 18 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone "
what does this means?

It means that he believed he was so close to root it but something happened and he didn't.
I guess he didn't give up.

nosidefcp said:
i've checked paul's twitter and i've seen is last message saying "Gah, every time I think i've cracked the X10 root, it slips away! :-(
about 18 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone "
what does this means?
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for me it looks like at least he's definitely trying
shouldn't we be grateful since he is not paid and doing that for us??

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
X10 not rooted = POS you should avoid. unless the phone design is the only thing matters to you
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You're ridiculous.

another froyo prediction

I say we wont see it till July or August. Also n1 will get it last....
Just my thoughts. I figured we'd still all be waiting at this time.
Although I'm happy with the leaked as its good. I'm starting to want the final release ....
Well I bet I'm right. Atleast no June release IMO ....
Flame all ya want. Its my turn for my opinion. Lets see who's right. I say end of July..... and the Evo and incredible will get it first. Official that is.

I thought the Nexus already had it?
I'd guess that all phones running Sense will get it around the same time.
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temperbad said:
I say we wont see it till July or August. Also n1 will get it last....
Just my thoughts. I figured we'd still all be waiting at this time.
Although I'm happy with the leaked as its good. I'm starting to want the final release ....
Well I bet I'm right. Atleast no June release IMO ....
Flame all ya want. Its my turn for my opinion. Lets see who's right. I say end of July..... and the Evo and incredible will get it first. Official that is.
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*insert flames here*
I will choose to respectfully disagree.

its already out on the N1 why would we get it last?

no disappointment
for me
Final build is always way far behind the great developers cooked ROMs.... so i am not worried about final builds( i never saw one without issues) as long as XDA and its great minds are here.....
thank you all for you amazing work......
just got offtopic idea: what will happen if all the XDA devs together make a seperate OS for phones?, idea itself is exciting me

lightforce said:
its already out on the N1 why would we get it last?
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Obviously because Google already has a leaked version on the Nexus one they will abandon all the progress they made and will focus entirely on gingerbread or possibly just twiddling their thumbs.

lightforce said:
its already out on the N1 why would we get it last?
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Uh no its not out. We got a unfinished version for developers....
Just saying watch. I hope I'm wrong but my gut feelings say atleast July. I bet we don't see the over air one in June...

When does the iphone 4 come out? I'm guessing it will come out around that date.

what are these "problems" that everyone seems to be having with the dev build? My phone is snappy as hell and i havent got any FC's besides a few launcher ones right after install. Nothing since.

Orangeandblue302 said:
what are these "problems" that everyone seems to be having with the dev build? My phone is snappy as hell and i havent got any FC's besides a few launcher ones right after install. Nothing since.
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I got no issues either. That's why I'm wondering what's taking so long. Its ready and if not 99% there and that was 3 weeks ago.
Hell cooks here work faster than google.

temperbad said:
I say we wont see it till July or August. Also n1 will get it last....
Just my thoughts. I figured we'd still all be waiting at this time.
Although I'm happy with the leaked as its good. I'm starting to want the final release ....
Well I bet I'm right. Atleast no June release IMO ....
Flame all ya want. Its my turn for my opinion. Lets see who's right. I say end of July..... and the Evo and incredible will get it first. Official that is.
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You're insane. The N1 is the only phone to date that Google has proven actually be WORKING on 2.2 for. How could we POSSIBLY get it last?

I don't mind the wait. CM is still pumping out good stuff for me to play with and i tried the Froyo test release and it was pretty nice as well, though it felt very generic and not really Nexus One tailored. Hopefully the final build introduces some new features and stuff that's specific to the N1.
Since 2.2 includes JIT (really big change), there are likely lots of little wrinkles that need to be ironed out.

Paul22000 said:
You're insane. The N1 is the only phone to date that Google has proven actually be WORKING on 2.2 for. How could we POSSIBLY get it last?
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Not sure. Just a gut feeling. Not really we will get it last. But I bet its released very closely with the others.
What the hell is taking so long? Just saying my opinion and how I don't see us having the official by June. And I wouldn't be surprised if htc are already working on the Evo and incredible.
I think its bull honkey. Imagine if there were no leak. Everyone would be pissed.
The unofficial is pretty stable. I don't see another 3 weeks to fix minor things when cooks here do It in a week with more bugs. Hell 2.1 was buggier than this and they had a update fast for it....
Just getting the feeling things will slow

We don't need another new speculation thread. Please help keep the forum clean and continue discussion on an existing thread.

You selling your X10 now ?

I'm really leaning towards selling mine at this point .
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Already posted two adds!

i am thinking about it, i think all this business with updating taking months apon months is stupid, personally i brought the phone expecting it to receive the new android software fast but SE cant perform as expected.

No Way!!!!
Edit: It's a huge appointment for me, but i'm not going to sell mine.

Ill give anyone £ 50 just to take it and its memories of failure away.
Sent from my rooted android over9000 x10i using swype on the xda app.

SE's update about 2.1 was a huge let down for me. I was really looking forward to getting it by the end of the week.
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Nope.
The X10 in its current form runs fine and there are no better alternatives. IMO
My next phone upgrade will not be a Sony Ericsson though. Possibly HTC if they improve their design and other bits here and there by next year.

You guys are just bunch of babies.. lol..
Didn't get what you wanted and had to go cry about it..
Grow up man. If you didn't like it.. you shouldn't have bought it in the first place.
But since you did.. man up and just shut up and move on.
Just my 2C.

I'm seriously considering selling... I'm really dissapointed at how SE deals with software upgrades, the protected bootloader being the prime example of this. I'm hoping for the devs to do something good, but I'm not holding my breath. Sony's done a great job of crippling hope of a decent upgrade.
And yes, the phone works "as is" as many have stated, but the low in call volume, some moments of lag across the OS, lack of MT on a device that should clearly support it and other random little annoyances make me think that spending so much on a "flagship model" was a mistake... I would have loved SE to prove me wrong with a firmware update that solved a bunch of these issues. Now I'm feeling pretty sour about living with these issues as long as I own this phone.

I like this phone, and i am not going to sell it for a while, but i am a bit disappointed and i am sure that my next device will not be a SE, because i do not want to find myself in this situation again.

If their is a hell, you will get in to it if you sell your X10 to another. Just burn it!
Sighx said:
You guys are just bunch of babies.. lol..
Didn't get what you wanted and had to go cry about it..
Grow up man. If you didn't like it.. you shouldn't have bought it in the first place.
But since you did.. man up and just shut up and move on.
Just my 2C.
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Some comments are out of order indeed. But SE DID PROMISE something else than delivered. In the western world that is NOT acceptable.

I will not sell off my X10 just because delay in X10 software upgrade as hardware is more important for me.
I will still wait patiently for the Android 2.1 Upgrade.

Sighx said:
You guys are just bunch of babies.. lol..
Didn't get what you wanted and had to go cry about it..
Grow up man. If you didn't like it.. you shouldn't have bought it in the first place.
But since you did.. man up and just shut up and move on.
Just my 2C.
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I'm pretty sure most of us here purchased this phone with the notion that, it would be updated at the time that SE stated. No one here is being a baby for being disappointed because SE couldn't keep their word and I'm positive no one said they didn't like the X10. Regret buying ? Yes. Dislike the phone ? No.
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Swishaa said:
I'm pretty sure most of us here purchased this phone with the notion that, it would be updated at the time that SE stated. No one here is being a baby for being disappointed because SE couldn't keep their word and I'm positive no one said they didn't like the X10. Regret buying ? Yes. Dislike the phone ? No.
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Well luckily for you SE returned to the previous timeframe with the delay. They originally said that we would get the 2.1 update in Q4, then they moved it up to Q3 and now it's back to Q4.
So a release in Q4 is exactly when SE originally said that the update would come.

Devtone said:
If their is a hell, you will get in to it if you sell your X10 to another. Just burn it!
Some comments are out of order indeed. But SE DID PROMISE something else than delivered. In the western world that is NOT acceptable.
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They promised? I believe the just stated "before end of Q3"
I don't ever recall hearing " We at SE PROMISE to release 2.1 before the end of Q3. . ? Hmm...
If they did then my apologise.

Sighx said:
They promised? I believe the just stated "before end of Q3"
I don't ever recall hearing " We at SE PROMISE to release 2.1 before the end of Q3. . ? Hmm...
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No MT? misprint.. OK.
Q3, come on its SE where talking about!! What the hell are they doing?? So ok Q4.
Expecting FroYo on an (half year old) HIGH END Android phone is NOT that crazy...
Come on man, they just launched the X10 in the US. With 1.6, HIGH END? I was expecting FroYo. I still am, not from SE. The only reason i'm not dumping it, YET..
Its like Alienware selling a HIGH END system with XP and you cannot install Win7 and no upgrades...
IF the phone was 2 years old I would buy the story. ITS NOT!
Maybe its because i'm used to pimp phones. My x years old Kaiser is running FroYo
Lets face it, SE in not for ME. Back 2 HTC for the hardware AND SOFTWARE capability.
The X10 is not made for nerds, its for the masses. I miss the good old flashing HTC's days

Tasteslikeawesome said:
Ill give anyone £ 50 just to take it and its memories of failure away.
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I'll take it off your hands for £50 in a heartbeat

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Sighx said:
They promised? I believe the just stated "before end of Q3"
I don't ever recall hearing " We at SE PROMISE to release 2.1 before the end of Q3. . ? Hmm...
If they did then my apologise.
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An official blog update is more then enough for me to take it as a promise.
just like the MT issue it was never stated on the blog that it had it so they could state it was never officially announced.
its exactly this kind of treatment which gives them a bad name. Why didnt they just keep it at Q4 originally?
Fair enough they would have been flamed for been Q4 but we would all be looking forward to it now instead of feeling let down.
I am even doubting a Q4 release now.

Expecting Gingerbread 3.0 on the X10 would be crazy but FroYo??

Sewez said:
No Way!!!!
Edit: It's a huge appointment for me, but i'm not going to sell mine.
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+1 The phone as it is is a great phone, the only issue is the company that made it.

Come on Sony!! I'm starting to hate my x10!!!

Dear Sony,
Hurry the funk up and release the update. 2.1 at least ffs..
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Mods: Please close this thread

Glad you started this thread, finally someone start a thread like this....now it must come soon, because they read all these topics...
LOCK!
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PollPixx said:
Glad you started this thread, finally someone start a thread like this....now it must come soon, because they read all these topics...
LOCK!
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I know aye.. dude I'm hating my life on this phone. I HATE 1.6!!

PollPixx said:
Glad you started this thread, finally someone start a thread like this....now it must come soon, because they read all these topics...
LOCK!
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pngface said:
Mods: Please close this thread
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Cut much? =]

gspotr said:
I know aye.. dude I'm hating my life on this phone. I HATE 1.6!!
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I guess you don't understand sarcasm

just relax, mate...everyone is disappointed in the delay, but these kind of topics doesn't bring it any faster...we have to be patient...the only thing you reach by starting this topic is getting yourself a heartfailure of the stress

Why do you hate your X10 so much? What was your previous phone?

I am still enjoying my handset very much. I am able to make calls on it, jump about the net, get some pretty cool apps all in all its working great. Camera is awesome. I am quite happy with it. Upgrade coming in a month.. its all good.

Buy an n97, THEN you'd realise what you had.
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No get am lg bliss, virgin mobile style, and tell me the X10 is crap
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Why do you hate your x10 with 1.6?
I get the feeling the only reason you hate it is because you know that there is an update coming and are too impatient to wait. That and you expect 2.1 to turn the phone into something unbelievable which isn't going to happen.
It will improve some factors of the phone, but it isn't going to be anything majorly drastic.

I don't get it. Did your phone stop working under 1.6?
It still does everything it did yesterday. It will keep doing it tomorrow.
Just be a patient person. If you're so unsatisfied, don't post on here, go buy a new phone, and be happy. Why be so negative and filled with rage? Who does that help?

Umm what's with you people lol I love my x10 hence why I bought it but it kills me that most android phones are on the 2.* platform and we're still on 1.6. Sony is taking their sweet ass time with an update that should have been released 2 months ago. And knowing it will never see the 2.2 update is really a downer..
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gspotr said:
Umm what's with you people lol I love my x10 hence why I bought it but it kills me that most android phones are on the 2.* platform and we're still on 1.6. Sony is taking their sweet ass time with an update that should have been released 2 months ago. And knowing it will never see the 2.2 update is really a downer..
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Whoa, holy f***ing s***, you got confirmation that 2.2 isn't coming to the X10?! Why didn't you tell us?!

iead1 said:
Whoa, holy f***ing s***, you got confirmation that 2.2 isn't coming to the X10?! Why didn't you tell us?!
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Do you have proof that it will you nerdy smartass?

gspotr said:
Do you have proof that it will you nerdy smartass?
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Nope, and you don't have proof that it won't.
Instead of being a negative nancy and living life like everyone's out to get you, just be happy with what you have. Then, be you can be pleasantly surprised when you get something extra.

iead1 said:
Nope, and you don't have proof that it won't.
Instead of being a negative nancy and living life like everyone's out to get you, just be happy with what you have. Then, be you can be pleasantly surprised when you get something extra.
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You're a douchebag.. I said I'm happy with my phone. Sony is taking their time releasing an operating system that should be already out. People like you don't care if they do or don't because 'you're happy with what you got and you're a happy nancy' others like myself are considering selling the phone and getting a phone that has 2.1 and up and is more likley to get updated regularly.. I can't see why Sony is taking so long for this update.

iead1 said:
Instead of being a negative nancy and living life like everyone's out to get you, just be happy with what you have. Then, be you can be pleasantly surprised when you get something extra.
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Dude, it's like buying a sports car which has a speed limiter built in for no apparent reason. If SE want to tout their Xperia phones as being "the most open mobile phone brand on the market" then it's fair that we call it what it is.. bulls~t!
If the phone is perfectly capable to run Froyo (Flash, etc), then why would SE make such an ordeal out of it? Give it's users a bootloader, then let us choose if we want some homemade Froyo, or stay with SE's 1.6 (eventual 2.1) and customized apps. See, they are the ones creating this negative situation, not their users.

I7redd said:
Dude, it's like buying a sports car which has a speed limiter built in for no apparent reason. If SE want to tout their Xperia phones as being "the most open mobile phone brand on the market" then it's fair that we call it what it is.. bulls~t!
If the phone is perfectly capable to run Froyo (Flash, etc), then why would SE make such an ordeal out of it? Give it's users a bootloader, then let us choose if we want some homemade Froyo, or stay with SE's 1.6 (eventual 2.1) and customized apps. See, they are the ones creating this negative situation, not their users.
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Nicely said mate.

2.2 news and speculations

Good evening!
now, as we all have 2.1 it's a good time to start thinking of possible 2.2 upgrade. Has anyone heard anything? are there any rumors anywhere? Please post anything you can find!
Good Luck to us all and fingers crossed we will get 2.2 before 3.0 comes out!

panjote said:
Good evening!
now, as we all have 2.1 it's a good time to start thinking of possible 2.2 upgrade. Has anyone heard anything? are there any rumors anywhere? Please post anything you can find!
Good Luck to us all and fingers crossed we will get 2.2 before 3.0 comes out!
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ya rumour is we wont get this, but may receive next update.

robbyf66 said:
ya rumour is we wont get this, but may receive next update.
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Lol
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dont be so greedy which u just got your 2.1 update for a day!

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now, as we all have 2.1
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Oh yeah..?

check your set and you will see it is mentioned 2.1 update 1 , i think they are more to work on the 2.1 before thinking in 2.2

2.3 not 3.0
Its 2.3 not 3.0 numbnuts!

Seeing the 2.1 update, the idea of Froyo from the SE dev team, gives me the creeps...
lol!

Why start people whining about the next evolution lol, na 2.2 is an easy update from 2.1 so will 2.3 i feel though that new we have the 2 base 2.2 might come faster, 2.3 is a definate no though as the handset dont have enough ram.

solo13 said:
check your set and you will see it is mentioned 2.1 update 1 , i think they are more to work on the 2.1 before thinking in 2.2
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Yes, as normal for S/E, they have to make 352 "updates" to 2.1 before they move on to the next version OS...
- just wait and see...

My_Immortal said:
Seeing the 2.1 update, the idea of Froyo from the SE dev team, gives me the creeps...
lol!
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Rn't you satisfied with the results?

as walt mosspuppet would say;
"shut up"
if your thinking who the hell is walt mosspuppet click here
but srsly,
if (sony have learnt there lesson)
{
console.WriteLine ("upgrade to android 2.3 and release slightly later than most other android devices")
}
else
{
console.WriteLine ("upgrade to android 2.2 when people are getting android 3.0")
}

For speculation: SE said that they will support their product for 2 years after it launch, so therefore 2.2 should be in the works. If for any reason that they wont update to 2.2, it's because of hardware limitation (probably excuse that SE makes)

kill3rmus said:
For speculation: SE said that they will support their product for 2 years after it launch, so therefore 2.2 should be in the works. If for any reason that they wont update to 2.2, it's because of hardware limitation (probably excuse that SE makes)
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LOL!
Wouldn't be the first time now, would it?!
We all remember the story of MT and hardware not capable of it...

The x10 is fully capable of running 2.2, but my guess is they will skip over it and go to 2.3 sometime in the spring.

Bialynia said:
The x10 is fully capable of running 2.2, but my guess is they will skip over it and go to 2.3 sometime in the spring.
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that will have to wait until they are done with all 2.1x update...then they will start talking about future OS update

njfpolyr6 said:
that will have to wait until they are done with all 2.1x update...then they will start talking about future OS update
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Rikard clearly said on the blog that 2.1x upgrade may also include an OS upgrade, that decision had simply not been made yet.

I'd be happy with FLASH web bowsing.
Just that.

My_Immortal said:
Seeing the 2.1 update, the idea of Froyo from the SE dev team, gives me the creeps...
lol!
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Walk lightly. Say anything that could be perceived as even slightly negative and pilote will lock the thread down quicker than you can say Jimmy crack corn!
You have to say things like: The X10 is the greatest out dated device ever made. And, how glad you are that SE stripped away all the great features of Android. They were just getting in the way of SE's perfect UI. And, than how glad you are that boot loader has been lock down so that no one is able to change a thing.
And there would have to be things like, who really wants 2.2 anyway? Heck, you can get that with any other phone on the market. Plus getting flash 10.1 would just make you waste too much time on the phone streaming videos. And, that would just kill the battery faster giving you less time to spend with your baby.
Plus there would be all those apps that you can't get with 2.1, and they would just burn up all your free memory.
The X10 is perfect and SE know exactly how to take care of her customers . Now who in their right minds would want to change from all of this? I only wish I could have paid more for mine!

whatever they do they just better not release a X10 HD model with 2.2 on there with multi-touch.
if they do, i'm never using a SE product ever again.